Has there ever been a suicide support thread

[Fairy Disturbed]

either for those who have attempted it, or those who have lost someone to it?

[CheshireEyes]

Consider it made, here, milady.... I know there is a depression thread but not EXACTLY the same thing...

So, here we are....

[Zelan]

Maybe this can be it.

[Fairy Disturbed]

thanks guys!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Fairy Disturbed]

how often do you think of suicide, is it only when things get really really bad, or do you think it just comes with depression?

[Semele]

I just want to stand in complete opposition to suicide. Can we not call it the suicide support group..maybe suicide prevention group? ;)

[maphdet]

I've known someone to do this.
What i want to say is...
It's a reaction to a moments desire.
If anyone knows any one, who has ever threatend/attempted/whatever,
Please, please contact someone, not only a family memeber, but someone in a mental health facility, or the police.
I can not stress that enough.

Oh and the people left behind, usually do not feel sorrow but Anger.
It proves nothing.

So anyway...my quaters worth.

[Zelan]

Too true, and although it is considered a selfish act, and doing things by the numbers is important, I do think it would be wise to handle anyone who is seriously considering it with "kids gloves" if you will.
I'm sure we as a community, have a wealth of wisdom to bring to the table should anything immediately tragic arise.
Is anyone here particularly experienced with handling this?

[Ayumi]

This is a very heavy topic to discuss here. It's something I personally have trouble thinking and talking about because I've been that person and I love a person who did think about suicide. It is selfish. It's not worth it, regardless of the pain. Maybe I understand this best because I've thought about it and considered it... but what made me wake up?.. my friend because I realized she was feeling the exact same and instead of helping eachother feel better, we were making suicide pacts and other stupid things like that. Now we're both a little older and a little wiser. And I love her even if I don't love myself. I could not loose her to this and I refuse to hurt her and everyone else I love if I did it myself. I didn't want my life or the end of it to be a tragety as it didn't have to be... even if everything indicated it would be. But now, years later things have gotten better. We even laugh about how stupid we were then and she had felt worse then me. Suicide isn't the answer to problems. It never has. You just need to work through it. :)

Love always,
Ayumi

[Zelan]

And that's awesome that you had that friend to ground you in an uncertain time.
I've been there myself, though it's been quite a while now, but I can remember how hauntingly empty the threat of lonliness felt.
I realize the experience is going to be a bit different for everyone. But it is important to remember, even when times are merely drab, that we are not as alone as we may think.

[Ayumi]

It wasn't her help that helped me. It was that I could see how this was affecting others and that it wasn't just me. I think that having a chat area about it would be great, but also that you have to keep in mind not to be patronizing and realize that these are real people with real problems. No one should say "Oh it's just a phase" or "you wouldn't really do it" or anything stupid like that because you're just invalidating it and I know that I had/have that problem without others shoving that in my face. It just makes you feel worse. If there is a place for that, there should be unspoken guidelines and what people say really does have an effect, regardless of what people may claim. So please be kind and accomodating to others. Empathy greatly needed, trust me on that!

Love and blessings,
Ayumi E.

[iucey]

O.o
great topic,
ok i share my story :x

few of my friends they wanted to commit suicide from time to time...
had been trying to talk to them and convince them that life is beautiful.
After these years of talking to them and etc...
i began to feel really really tired, because one of them got worst.
even if we went out to have a walk, she will cry and tell me to die with her.

others tell me just leave her alone and they will start to think for themself those things you always explain to them, because always been there too much for them, lead them to depend on you too much and they won't really go and understand how they should settle their own problem. they can affect your thinking too... causing you to have the same thinking.

now i'm really lost what can i do for that girl, it's really very stressing that we go out as group and we are happily playing together she suddenly asking me to join her, and telling me her plan as how to commit suicide.

[Fairy Disturbed]

i think about it often, mainly cause its an escape, but its because of all the downfalls going on, and i knew in some way i had people around but it really doesn't feel like that. i have attempted it once in my lifetime, but of course it failed in some way, i've known a couple of people who have taken their lives though i don't know what the complete reason and understanding was going on with them.

and in some aspects i really don't agree with going to a mental facility, cause from experience, as soon as you mention any kind of known situation that have any thoughts of suicide, they are trying to commit you, not find out what the underlying reasons are.

[angle kitsune]

suicide...some thing alot of teenagers know all to well. I have thought about it yes...meny of my friends have as well. I was really bad but I got all better!ok well not all better but what can you expect. I still have my moments but who dosent. well anywho one of my friends did it last month. my sixth friend to take their own life!wow.. when you are under 18 and the person is under 18 when it comes to suicide every one thinks you dont know what your talking about. I know more about it then alot of adults. people need to listen to the teens when they come to them about it. my last friend that did it is the best example of this. for the longest time she cut her arms up,her legs up. our school knew,her dad knew,her brother knew. every one knew but they just kept saying she was doing it for attenchen,she wasent really going to harm herself. hahaha how wrong they where. on the 1st of this month I and a friend or ours cut class(yah yah i dont want to hear it) walked around and talked about ellie,the girl that was soon to be dead. deaciding it was going to far we went back to school in the middle of the class and made our way up to the consler's office for our house,the three of us are in the same house so it was simple. knocked on the door,went in and went through the crap,names?year?class?names?ID numbers? pass?fill out detenchen slip for cutting class, then reason for being there. we told her that we knew if no one did anything ellie would be dead by the end of the month...she nods her head,we tell her all we know. she says get to class,drop the detenchen slips off with denis(sicurity). we cut the rest of the day,dident drop the slips off. on the seventh ellie's dad called. ellie wont come out of her room,she has the music up and wont say anything. come make her come out. she wont open the door for me. went to her bros room and climbed out his window and nearly fell off(second story bedrooms) and crashed ellie's window open. turned down the music and then looked at ellie...on the floor...cold....and sadly dead. I called the cops,then spent 15 minutes moving her computer desk,her dresser and her bed from infront of her door and told her father and brother. now they say its becuse of me that shes gone,but they can go to.....well anywho.. believe us teens we are not as young as most people seem to think and we tend to mean what we say. the school thought we where over reacting and look what happened becuse it was just a phase. take all threats as if it was a garente

[sybba_leigh]

"When you don't want to feel... death can seem like a dream. But, seeing death - really seeing it... makes dreaming about it fu<king ridiculous."

- Sussana, Girl Interrupted


"Razors pain you;
Rivers are damp;
Acids stain you;
And drugs cause cramp.
Guns aren't lawful;
Nooses give;
Gas smells awful;
You might as well live."

- Dorothy Parker

[Sitalique]

I think of suicide at least once a day. The thing that makes me stop is my son. I just can't think of leaving him without a mom.

So I go on with my (in my mind) miserable life and kinda just go through the motions. All for that 3 year old of mine.

[Crysiira]

As someone who's battled depression and suicidal tendancies for a large chunk of my life, I can totally relate.
I guess the main thing holding me back from suicide is letting "it" win - the darkness of depression... I tend to think of it as a seperate entity from myself. It is part of me and it will always be part of me, and sometimes I think it defines me, defines who I am in this world, and I can't live without it because how would I be different from anyone else out there? I cradle my depression and hold it close to me and give in to thoughts and desires like abandoning all my friends and staying in bed for days and cutting myself every time someone says something that could be taken as a slight or I have a thought that disturbs me.
When I do that for awhile, I scare myself. I realize that I'm letting this seperate entity win me over. Depression does not define me; I can't let it. If I let it, I'll always be that sad mopey girl... Not even that, but the tempt of suicide will be unbearable. It's so hard for me to think of suicide as a selfish act, and I don't understand the "stigma" and why people don't tell other people that a family member died by suicide... because in some ways to me it seems like a victory of sorts...
But I know it's no victory. It's defeat in its greatest form.
That's what keeps me from doing it. I know I should say that my lovely fiance is the one holding the blade away from my grasp, but while he does give me the strength I need to keep fighting, it's my own will that keeps me going.
In the end, YOURSELF is who you have to live for. You have to make up your mind that you are worth sticking around for; to finish out your life, make your contribution to the world simply by living in it.
As an artist, it's tempting to let my crazy side take over; don't most artists thrive on emotion? Doesn't emotion drive their work? That poses problems for me sometimes... As an artist, where do I draw the line between my art and my mental health? Do I really want to put my life on the line for just one more painting with some feeling in it? I do know that I will never go on medications for depression, because I tried that once and I cannot function with that flat feeling. Watching movies tells me that a mental hospital is a fun place to be, a nice vacation... That's not true. I can't let myself go that far either. I just have to learn to control my own emotions... To know when I need help and ask for it before the breaking point. The other day my fiance and I had a fight over something stupid... I decided in my head that if he walked out the door, that was it, I was going to slit my wrists and wait for him to come back and find me and then he'd be sorry. Why bother living if he didn't care enough to stick around for the fight? So he walked out the door to take a drive to cool off... and I dug in my art stuff until I found a fresh razor blade... I sat on the bed working up the courage... and I reached over and grabbed my phone and called him. He came back and we worked it out, and of course it was nothing but a silly argument...
Am I really going to kill myself over such a silly argument? I can't let myself do that. It's not courage... it's escape of the worst kind.
Am I tempted to do so anyway? All the time.
That is the battle I'm fighting. And I intend to win.

[anomalous]

I've never really given an introduction on this forum. I guess I just "joined into the fun" without even saying "hello, this is me" :)

In my day-to-day life I deal with kids all the time who come to me with all sorts of psychological and spiritual issues. Some of them reflect their attitude in all different manner. I guess thats why they come to me because I'm capable of dealing with both physical and mental behavioral issues. I work with crime prevention offices and with juveniles who have been in and out of detention centers.

The ONE single thing that creates the want to kill oneself is fear. The hard thing to do is realise two very important aspects. The first is coming to terms that your afraid of something and the second thing is being able to define those fears.

To define fear means looking inward and seeing how your mind behaves. Jealousy, anger and the most important _depression_ all these emotions are byproducts of fear. You fear an outcome of a situation and therefore it makes you angery. You fear the result of something and therefore you feel depressed. The triggers which invoke the fear that brings on these feelings can be anything. Sometimes it can be the most silliest things at times but its all because of bad subconscious programming that resorts to this negative behavior. The behavior just spirals downward until it hits suicide.

If your suffering from depression / suicidal behavior you can bring yourself out of it. See if your intelligent enough to see that your attitude is not beneficial anyway shape-or-form (thats why we are having this discussion) then you'll be able to “nip it in the butt” and resolve yourself from it all. To do this you must look inward and find those two things.

Realise that its your fears that a creating the world around you. Internalise and define those fears, see the logic behind them and see the truth behind them. When this happens it gets tough because it also means you walk backwards through your life and you bring back memories that you've suppressed. Its these bad (suppressed) memories that have built that subconscious and negative emotional behavior.

Remember the saying "the cave man was burnt by fire and now he wont stick his hand in the fire anymore" its a healthy attitude for somethings. For others it isn't healthy at all as it can be very restrictive and worse yet negative. But this is purely circumstance based and thats what you have to come to terms with.

I offer all the warmth and care that i can in your journey and hope that you can see that light at the end of the tunnel because its there, you just need to find it. And this all comes from self masterism :)

[Carickah]

A couple of years ago, I wrote "the Note"(tm) which remains on my desktop to this day.... then I went and stuck a gun in my mouth... I didn't hesitate when I pulled the trigger and the egg didn't go off. I was pissed, hurt... I felt like the world was fighting me... I went to the internet to find another way... Instead, I found this website...


http://www.metanoia.org/suicide/

It was the best thing I ever did. The site was an easy read in my condition and it said one thing that has stuck with me...


“Suicide is not chosen; it happens
when pain exceeds
resources for coping with pain.”

This simple statement gave me pause enough to understand. Since that time, I have felt suicidal again... but when I do, I reach out for other methods of coping. I posted on this site, I called my local suicide intervention... I have done my best to cope for 10 more seconds, then another 10 seconds... or whatever it took to get through it. Some days it still doesn't seem worth it, but then there are days that I am grateful that I have managed.



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[Crysiira]

Caricka - I loved the website you provided. It was simplistic and almost childish in its manner, like the author was walking on tiptoe not to say anything that might be taken as an attack and push someone over the edge, but I thought it was a really good article nonetheless. I clicked on the joke page, wondering what sort of jokes they would provide to a person on the verge of suicide - they were hilarious! lol :lol:
As for the diatribe you posted, Anomalous ..... I have to disagree with your fear theory. I think you should go watch the movie "Donnie Darko". For all those who have seen it, I think you know exactly what I'm talking about. There's a scene in the movie in which the kids in school are given cards that have little scenarios on them that are supposed to illustrate either "fear" or "love" - they had to decide which emotion the person in the scenario was acting on and make a mark on the board near "fear" or "love" as two polar extremes. When our hero of the story had to stand in front of class and make a mark on the board from his scenario, he tried to raise a debate with the teacher - why is there two polar opposites, "fear" and "love"? Why are these the only options given, when there are a million other emotions, a veritable rainbow of options in the real world? Are you saying that "fear" and "love" are so absolute that they negate all the other emotions that human beings feel? Since you, Anomalous, aren't using "love" as an example, only "fear", why do you say that everything I am feeling is based on fear? I look at the world around me and it saddens me to see what people are like, how they treat other people. Yes, I am afraid of what is going to happen to this world, but that is an emotion going hand in hand with my sadness, not causing my sadness. Fear is one emotion out of many. It compliments my sadness and anger, it does not define them. In the movie, Donnie ends up telling the teacher to shove it up her :D but I wouldn't say that, because that doesn't end the argument right. I just want to know why you say there can be no room in the world for any other emotion other than fear.

[anomalous]

why do you say that everything I am feeling is based on fear?

Ahhh Step 1, defining fear :) Why is what you are feeling is negative? Why is what you are feeling bringing on pain/sadness?


I look at the world around me and it saddens me to see what people are like, how they treat other people.

And then you've defined it. Your sadness has been invoked by the fear of what fellow man is capable of. Fear is the 1st emotion you feel but it isnt the only one you feel. Fear is the trigger which bring on these other elements.

Let me guess this sadness keeps you up at night, it keeps you thinking about senarios and situations, it keeps going and going and doesnt stop? you build more situations based on your emotions until it eventually spirals out of control? Thats fear, thats the nasty bugger i was talking about ...

[dragoncrone]

Chronologically, my mother committed suicide when I was 18. She had been a weekend alcoholic for the three years leading up to that, and I hated what she had become. In a way that made dealing with her death - well, not easier - but less traumatic...the mother i had grown up with had crawled into a bottle and died years before...
So, OK - fast-forward about twelve years. Have 7-year old son and second husband. I was stuck in a dead-end boring job which unfortunately paid rather well; I hated going there so much that one day instead of returning from lunch i holed up in a phone booth, bawling, and called my husband on the phone. He was very supportive and I did get a different job - but it was the first experience I had with run-away anxiety and depression.

The depression surfaced every so often for the next ten years and gradually became so debilitating that for a period of time, about 8 or 9 months, I went to work, put on my happy act, then went home and most of the time went to bed. I stayed in the bedroom and read most of the time, didn't want to be around my family, and went to sleep most nights thinking that if by some weird chance I never woke up again it would be no big loss. I had a lot of dark thoughts involving suicide but there was no painless option available and my thought was, 'Fuc# that, I'm hurting enough already...' I thought about getting help but we were basically broke so that was not an option.

I finally snapped out of it -- well, slid out of it gradually is more accurate. Two years later my 2nd husband and I split up and I met my current husband. He literally rescued me because after we were married I began having anxiety attacks and periods of depression followed by just wacko hysterical fits. (Poor guy, he was probably thinking, holy sh!t, I didn't sign up for this!) But what he said was, 'Honey, this just isn't normal, I want you to go talk to a doctor.'

So, after thirty-some odd years (odd to say the least) I was put on anti-depressants.

To anyone reading this - I know about the slimy black hole that you slide into and cannot get out. I know the sadness that breaks over you like ocean waves, waves that drown your soul. I know the desire to be numb, invisible, gone. Please let someone help, because you have a life waiting.

Hugs and Blessings.

[Sybill]

I lost someone ... my former boyfriend committed suicide...I'm still asking myself why...I never had an answer... I can just say it was something stupid.
The person who commits suicide can't think or immagine the sorrow he leaves behind and the wound take a lot of time to heal, too much...
For long time I was completely lost, I didn't know in which way I could go on, I was like a plant, I was just eating, drinking, doing my job mechanically... I was like a shell... empty...
It took me long time before to be able to love again...
I think to that person sometimes and I pray for him.

[JuniusHeights]

I lost my mother-who was very very dear and close to me-4 years ago, 3 days after my 22nd birthday. It remains the main turning point in my life. Whether it was for the better or for the worse, I cannot say yet.

Ever since then I have struggled with depression, anxiety, substance abuse and just plain screwed-up issues. I've been doing somewhat better, but I don't know if I will ever 'get over' it .

[purple dragon]

i've read a whole lot of stuff on suicide attempts and i know quite a lot too because people seem to think its a good idea to throw themselves off of the bridge near me (quite a lot of people actually)
i feel that people who want to commit suicide don't really mean, but just want people to notice them. self harmers are a good example of people who are reluctant to tell people how they feel and therefore find it easier to releive their emotions by slicing their arms open.
i've experienced a lot of bad stuff in my 15 years but i dont see that as a good enough reason to throw my life away.

[angle kitsune]

If some one you know is harming themself no matter how small it is they should be given every chance to get help. meny people start like that and stay like that for years then all of a sudden they take their own life. I may be wrong but thats how it seems to go in my city.

purple dragen, don't worry,people like to jump off the top floor of a mall in my city. at least 2 people jump off a month and there would be more but they keep getting pulled off the railing.

[Crysiira]

Ahhh Step 1, defining fear :) Why is what you are feeling is negative? Why is what you are feeling bringing on pain/sadness?



And then you've defined it. Your sadness has been invoked by the fear of what fellow man is capable of. Fear is the 1st emotion you feel but it isnt the only one you feel. Fear is the trigger which bring on these other elements.

Let me guess this sadness keeps you up at night, it keeps you thinking about senarios and situations, it keeps going and going and doesnt stop? you build more situations based on your emotions until it eventually spirals out of control? Thats fear, thats the nasty bugger i was talking about ...

No, no scary situations building up in my head. Just more and more sadness and despair. You don't have me convinced on the fear thing, but what the hell, it's all semantics anyway. Good try.

[anomalous]

No, no scary situations building up in my head. Just more and more sadness and despair. You don't have me convinced on the fear thing, but what the hell, it's all semantics anyway. Good try.

Even if my advice cant be of any help I am satisfied knowing that I've said it.

I do hope that you find some peace in this world. I dont believe the same thing as you about sadness in the world but i do understand what you are saying why you are saying it.

I hope one day you can build a similar belief and see how much beauty there is and learn to discard the dispair you are presently going through.

God bless your journey through life :)

[Fairy Disturbed]

this is one of the things i think about a lot, when i look around myself, my family, and my friends, as much as people tell you to think for yourself, it really is not an easy task, because the more you think for yourself, the more people will tell you you are wrong.

a constant nagging issue i have everyday, is what i have been told while growing up. my extended family is very big on the females marrying a man that can support them financially, and if he doesn't have a good job and comes from a not so stable family then there is something wrong with him and he is not great potential. now being a single mom there is more pressure to find someone who will be a great dad to my son. but i'm not given many opportunities to go out and enjoy myself and have a good time. so at the same time i am being told of what my constant responsibility is, yet now much freedom to go out, i am also under microscope to find the "perfect" man.

and this is just a small part as to everyday battles i go through, one thing i hope is that i can raise my son and not have him weighed down with such impossible expectations, and just be happy in life.

i think that is one of the major issues in life in dealing with depression, and wanting to end it all, people say they want you to be happy, but in most ways they want you to be happy in someone else's shoes, they make you doubt yourself and your decisions, and where there is doubt there is a lot of fear, and when you wake up scared all the time, you tend to get where you don't want to wake up at all

[Ayumi]

I've never really given an introduction on this forum. I guess I just "joined into the fun" without even saying "hello, this is me" :)

In my day-to-day life I deal with kids all the time who come to me with all sorts of psychological and spiritual issues. Some of them reflect their attitude in all different manner. I guess thats why they come to me because I'm capable of dealing with both physical and mental behavioral issues. I work with crime prevention offices and with juveniles who have been in and out of detention centers.

The ONE single thing that creates the want to kill oneself is fear. The hard thing to do is realise two very important aspects. The first is coming to terms that your afraid of something and the second thing is being able to define those fears.

To define fear means looking inward and seeing how your mind behaves. Jealousy, anger and the most important _depression_ all these emotions are byproducts of fear. You fear an outcome of a situation and therefore it makes you angery. You fear the result of something and therefore you feel depressed. The triggers which invoke the fear that brings on these feelings can be anything. Sometimes it can be the most silliest things at times but its all because of bad subconscious programming that resorts to this negative behavior. The behavior just spirals downward until it hits suicide.

If your suffering from depression / suicidal behavior you can bring yourself out of it. See if your intelligent enough to see that your attitude is not beneficial anyway shape-or-form (thats why we are having this discussion) then you'll be able to “nip it in the butt” and resolve yourself from it all. To do this you must look inward and find those two things.

Realise that its your fears that a creating the world around you. Internalise and define those fears, see the logic behind them and see the truth behind them. When this happens it gets tough because it also means you walk backwards through your life and you bring back memories that you've suppressed. Its these bad (suppressed) memories that have built that subconscious and negative emotional behavior.

Remember the saying "the cave man was burnt by fire and now he wont stick his hand in the fire anymore" its a healthy attitude for somethings. For others it isn't healthy at all as it can be very restrictive and worse yet negative. But this is purely circumstance based and thats what you have to come to terms with.

I offer all the warmth and care that i can in your journey and hope that you can see that light at the end of the tunnel because its there, you just need to find it. And this all comes from self masterism :)

I disagree with the "One single reason" you have here. It is not always fear that is responsible and on the contrary it is what kept me from offing myself. I understand what you have to say and I respect it, but this isn't so transparent that you can say exactly what's what about it. Some people are just so hopeless and feel there is no point to living any more. It isn't necessarilly that they are afraid, they have just lost their "enthusiasm and purpose" for living. Another motivation I think is pain and I see where sometimes it is linked to fear of living on with the pain, some may simply think it means they should no longer live because why would the gods want them to live like that?

My point is, there are many motivations. Not just one cause and one clear problem with someone that causes these thoughts/actions. That is what I think.

Ayumi

[Exloration_La]

Please, please contact someone, not only a family memeber, but someone in a mental health facility, or the police.
I can not stress that enough.



What you said above is exactly why some people feel they can’t talk to anyone about how they really feel.

Some people might be feeling down and just need some support and some fresh perspectives and to express how they feel that they might gain some new strategies to deal differently with challenges in life, and NOT to be taken BY FORCE and be stigmatized, labeled, forced on addictive drugs which complicate the underlying problems, and humiliated by the mental health facilities which are run by the big drug cartels. I would consider it kidnap and anyone should be granted their human rights to properly defend themselves against people who take them against their will if they are not actively stepping on anyone else’s toes and infringing upon them. Also not to say suicide is good, but to strip some one of their rights and take a adult by force and not allow them to take their own life if it is not their will is wrong!! Period! I would do by best tot help people make alternative decisions, but for authorities to take some one by force and force drug them I would say I am * Pro choice * and not taking away peoples choices whether you agree with them to not.

[Lorrie]

how often do you think of suicide, is it only when things get really really bad, or do you think it just comes with depression?


Please, I am not out for attention or pity. Right now I want more than anything to die, it just keeps getting worse and worse, I am too tired to keep going like this, I have been through too much, especially the past year. The message I just got a little while ago made it all the worse. I really don't feel like can go on any more. My son has pretty much killed me tonight.

[Exloration_La]

others tell me just leave her alone and they will start to think for themself those things you always explain to them, because always been there too much for them, lead them to depend on you too much and they won't really go and understand how they should settle their own problem. they can affect your thinking too... causing you to have the same thinking.



That is true That is why when I have problems I avoid talking with others about my problems because I don’t want to suck them into my negative mind frame and bring them down with me, because people do rub off on each other in their attitudes and thinking and you can get drug into other peoples mind frames which may or may not be healthy or functional and end up exhibiting some of their behaviors.. Reading on Memes can be a interesting subject in regards how behaviors can spread.

Personally I would try and find someone who is a professional at problems solving.. UNFORTUNATELY though many professional peoples studied in human behavior in felids that are suppose to help you make allot of people worse since they work for businesses who have their MAIN interest off making MONEY of you by selling drugs as they have a vested interest in putting you on mind altering addictive health damaging drugs, and will chose for you and FORCE their treatments on you like you are now a convicted criminal without due process or constitutional human rights.

So considering that If I was in a place I felt I wanted to talk to a professional and I would try and find some kind to people who beloved in working on the root problems and don’t believe people are broken, but solutions and things can be worked out.. Unfortunately though the Drug cartels try and eliminate anyone claiming to be able to help others without selling and pushing their drugs on others whether that person wants drugs forced down their throat or not.

Also because of the sterilization the mental health field promotes yet claims to be against yet they do it backhandedly and you will have permanent record of having a mental problems with will effect you in many ways including jobs whether the boss will admit it or not he will just say you are not qualified.. . So I would give a fake name to a trusted alternative therapist just to extra insure private records would not somehow get out..

[Exloration_La]

and in some aspects i really don't agree with going to a mental facility, cause from experience, as soon as you mention any kind of known situation that have any thoughts of suicide, they are trying to commit you, not find out what the underlying reasons are.

Exactly my thinking… they will force you on mind altering drugs that damage your health and are addictive, and they will hold you as long as they want based on their judgment and then after your health is devastated you will have to pay rent for the hell hole you were forced into, and the debt you have gained from all the terrible treatment they gave you and be adduced to mind altering drugs which have CRAZIER withdraws and make you feel way worse then before if you try and get off them and cause you to lose your job and you STILL have the same issues you plus new ones they loaded on your back.. so they just complicated your issues.. You will find no real love and support in many of these places.. might as well commit yourself to prison for thinking wrong..

In the places run by the drug cartels you are not given love and support tot help handle your problems, but drugs and forced on treatment and not allowed out until you fully comply to their doctrine.. It would be like being locked up and being told you now have to conform to a certain religion before you are allowed out.

Hopefully there will be new better options out there so more people can feel comfortable to seek help if they need it.

[Exloration_La]

I went to the internet to find another way... Instead, I found this website...


http://www.metanoia.org/suicide/

It was the best thing I ever did. The site was an easy read in my condition and it said one thing that has stuck with me...

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I ran across that site just yesterday before I came across this thread. That is a great site and it even lists other links and books which also might be good. I might see what good resources I could compile but the site you listed above is the best one so far.

[Exloration_La]

Please, I am not out for attention or pity. Right now I want more than anything to die, it just keeps getting worse and worse, I am too tired to keep going like this, I have been through too much, especially the past year. The message I just got a little while ago made it all the worse. I really don't feel like can go on any more. My son has pretty much killed me tonight.

I think it’s hard for peoples to say the perfect thing, and it’s not always easy for sure. I guess the best thing is maybe… try as dark as it may feel at the time to look around at your enjoinment, and the things you do have and not the things you do nto have and think and make a list of all the things you could be grateful for and have gratitude for, and look at the environment around you (nature walk) to get out of our own head and practice noticing all you can around you.

Think about all the things in the past that were a struggle and seemed hard or you that you thought might be impossible and you got passed them and solved the problems and they aren’t a big deal anymore .. Now just think with al the things you and challenges you have overcome you are probably just going through a rough phase and there is much light at the end of the tunnel if you keep pushing and working at it as the end of the tunnel. Try to meditate and pray and ask for guidance on the actions you can tale to help make things better and do your best to help you share and contribute to others the best you can m because even if you are very limited in resources maybe you can share a smile or give someone a back rub, and help make someone feel better it will also help lift your spirits..

Everyone’s issues are individual, and there is no advice that fits all and working through these issues can be hard, but who says life ever always easy.. But I think with the right perspective and if we keep at it things will work out and we can find joy regardless of the challenges that may come our way.. I struggle at times and strangely seem to sabotage myself at times which makes me feel bad… I will continue to work on it and I wish you the best

I think it is important to feel we make a positive difference in the world around us and feel like we share and contribute positively and that we are appreciated and can give back, and that we have a place and a purpose in the world… I think it takes work to make these things happen and I think sometimes with some of us when we let ourselves down enough to a poet where we might feel apathetic like we aren’t really reaching our potential or whatever, but regardless of how far we are behind on things if we can keep pushing things will probably work themselves out and we will see the light at the end of the tunnel and even at the times were we feel the darkest and if we can put out a little work on the things that will make a positive difference then we will feel a little bit better and closer to feeling better and happier.. It takes work though and it’s nto so easy, but I Guess the only option is to put our focus on the positive and were we can make a difference instead of only on the problems which will get us more in the wrong direction we want to go and only make us more depressed.. Funny how we can sabotage ourselves and get addicted to things that are destructive including feeling bad, and self destructive habits like procrastination etc which everyone has done maybe just a little or not extreme etc So when we get ourselves into bad habits we have to exercise like in a gym getting in the practice of making better more positive habits in it’s place.

I wish you the best
Be well