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Garden of Eden
June 17th, 2006, 06:47 PM
I think the whole situation is difficult because it is so hard to pinpoint. I can’t point my finger and just say “That. Look. When that happened. That was it.” It just isn’t possible to do so—the line is fine and very, very grey and blurry round the edges. The problem centres around my family, mainly my mother, and goes back, literally, years. I think it is emotional abuse. But I don’t know, and I don’t like to say that, because I feel I’m dramatising it, and I know my mother would say I am (which kind of adds to my case, but I digress.) It’s difficult also because she’s not like this all the time. Sometimes she’s fine. Around my friends, or other adults, she is genial at all times. She doesn’t lose control during her ‘episodes’; she can switch it right on and off if someone happens to call at the house or phone. She has two very different faces.

I looked up emotional abuse online a few months, and was sure to delete the entire history and turn off auto-form, lest my mother see it (she checks my internet history). Most of the information I found related to couples and abuse within them; but I found a short article and a checklist type thing. Reading about this particular brand of emotional abuse, mother-child, it just… made it clear. I said “yes, yes, yes,” to question after question. For the first time since… ever… I had something I could almost say reflected what happened so regularly and so subtly. She’s good at covering it up. Good at apologising and saying she’s so sorry, but it’s really my fault for making her angry or doing this, or that, or making her worried.

We have arguments. Well. They’re arguments as of the past year or so. Before that, they were simply her screaming at me, cutting me with inane sarcasm and pulling out every mistake I’d ever made in my life—or calling me names. In the last twelve months (approximately), as my confidence outside my home has grown, I’ve tried to stand up to her. Unfortunately, my calm and reasonable responses are regarded as “backchat”, “cheek” or simply “inappropriate”. Silence is also unacceptable. A neutral expression is unacceptable—I’m obviously not taking what she’s telling me to heart. A smile or similar means I’m not taking it seriously. Looking sad? “Oh my, aren’t you just the victim?” she’ll ask nastily. “Save the waterworks, sweetheart.” I’m being melodramatic, she says. If I told her I was depressed (which I often am), she would laugh and tell me I “don’t know what it means to be depressed or stressed,”

Generally speaking, trying to defend myself, etc. is bad. Anything except “I’m sorry, I’m sorry, you’re right, mother,” is bad. Even when what she’s saying is wrong (she has a tendency to exaggerate greatly), I am not allowed to “contradict” or act “smart”. When she’s screaming about how it was not acceptable for me to stay out to 2am, I’m not allowed to point out that it was 12.45 when I arrived home. When she’s telling me what an ungrateful drain I am on the family’s finances, I can’t tell her she’s wrong about the prices she’s throwing at me. She knows better, she always knows better. And she’s never wrong. She may be sorry later when she comes to hug me and apologise and tell me how it’s really for my own good, but she wasn’t wrong to begin with—and I daren’t suggest it. In an argument, the last word is always hers. Well, last words. Because she can let nothing go. And I’m not allowed to walk away or leave the room. She just goes on and on and on and repeats everything and I just have to take it. Rarely do I get a sentence in edgeways and she interrupts me every time. I don’t get a chance to defend myself, air my opinion or be taken seriously. If I say something that is dangerously close to making her have to face her own hypocrisy or unreasonableness, she quickly shoots me down by telling me how stupid I am, and how I “don’t know everything” and what I’m saying is “ridiculous”. The silent treatment is a regular thing. She storms past me, banging and making as much noise as is humanly possible, throwing me incredibly nasty looks, but saying nothing at all. It’s almost worse than the incessant screaming. If she has something to hand to me while she’s in this mood, it is thrown at me. I’ve been hit with heavy hardback books etc. “Sorry… didn’t mean to hit you,” she snaps. It’s my fault she throws things at me.

She compares me to my peers and relatives regularly, asking me why I can’t be as helpful around the house as my cousin is. And why don’t I have the same respect for her as my friends do for their parents? Everything I say, no matter how measured or careful on my part (and I’m very good at keeping my temper in check) is “not the correct tone” in which to address my mother—disrespectful. She often complains of how much she “puts up with” from me. I wouldn’t dare ask for examples of this, even though I really can’t image what she’s talking about. A mistake is something “stupid” I’ve done. She tells me I’m doing things “wrong” or “strangely” whenever they aren’t done her way. Just about everything I do is not good enough for her. I could always “have done it better”—there’s never a genuine congratulations or reward. She buys me things she knows I won’t like, cheap things, and then calls me ungrateful, though I don’t usually say anything about what I’m given. She rewards my younger siblings regularly for the most ridiculous things, and judges them far less harshly. Last week my brother I were sitting in the living room—he playing the playstation and I reading (I’m an A-level English student, so I try to do as much reading as possible). She comes storming in, her mood not looking promising, looks at me expectantly and angrily and sarcastically says “Oh, now don’t feel you have to help out, Ellen, just you sit right there, lazy bitch. Relax yourself now; you’d need it after all the hard work you’ve done.” If I don’t get up and start cleaning or something, then she’ll come back a few minutes later and continue her biting comments. My brother? Well, apparently the playstation is a worthy way to spend your time, why should he do anything around the house? The inequality is so clear before my eyes that I can do nothing but register my amazement.

She loves to win one over on me, and if something goes wrong it’s always “I told you so,” or “Well… serves you right.” Things always have to be done her way. The floor which needs swept, in my mind, can wait for ten minutes when I’ve just begun to do something—but for her it has to happen right now, her argument being I won’t do it at all unless I do it RIGHT NOW. If something is broken, etc, I will lie rather than tell her the truth, because her reaction is going to be over the top and unreasonable. I’m scared of her a lot actually. Sometimes I wander around town after school to avoid having to go home (though I know I’ll be in trouble if I’m out too late) or stay in my room for hours because I can hear her banging about downstairs and know she’s in a bad mood (and I’d rather not put myself in her path).

My mother loves to pry into my affairs. Open my letters, read my messages, riffle through my things claiming she’s looking for what I’ve “stolen” from her. She knocks on my door sharply and barges in, not caring whether I’m dressed or sleeping. There was a lock on the bedroom door when we first moved in, and she used to get really angry when I locked it. She reads my internet history and checks the google autoform to check what I’m searching. She does the same thing to my father, reads his emails and messages whenever he isn’t looking. Paranoia doesn’t cover it. She lies all the time about money, about what she has done in certain situations etc… and uses my problems or issues as funny stories to tell her friends, twisting them so she looks like the most caring mother. My religion, my tastes, my habits are all ammunition for her to use. “Oh, Ellen thinks she’s a witch… don’t you, sweetheart?” she’ll laugh. She found out recently that I told my boyfriend something she’d said to me in her anger, and was furious. How dare I carry tales like that? As it was, he couldn’t believe my mother had actually said such things to me and was difficult to convince.

She accuses me of being a liar, a thief, whatever comes into her head. She never believes I am going where I say I’m going and she overreacts to minor incidences, believing I’ve done things deliberately. Once I was told to buy a candle for my sister to use at school, but had a meeting to go to after school. It ran over, and by the time I got out all the shops were closed. I rang home to tell them, but when I got home, my mother began screaming at me about how I was so selfish, and why didn’t I just go and get it? It’s as if my explanations don’t exist or matter. She just doesn’t acknowledge them. I get blamed for ridiculous things. The computer crashes. Must be my fault. I recall once being punished as a child for something a neighbour had done (she removed a key that was being used to hold a lock in place, thinking the owner had forgotten it). But I’d been present, so I must have had a hand in it. And I was shouted at and punished for nothing more than being in the wrong place at the wrong time.

My father is bit strange in the situation. Sometimes, he tries to defend me a little. Usually this makes him the focus of her anger for a while, and I understand why he doesn’t do it often. Very occasionally he joins in with her and calls me names. “Lazy, useless bitch.”
Often my parents talk about me in the third person when I am present. They complain about how lazy, ungrateful and cheeky I am when I’m sitting right in front of them, or behind them, or a room away. It’s as if I’m not actually there. Or a person. Or worth talking to, rather than about. Saying anything generally earns me a glare and “You can keep your smart-arsed comments to yourself.”

I sometimes think I’d like to leave. But it’s not really possible. I’m 17 and don’t have the means to escape. I have to live another year or more here. I often go into school with my eyes red from crying during the car journey there (can't escape when I'm in a car with her), spend evenings hiding in my room and freezing when I hear her footsteps outside. There’s so much advice about identifying abuse, but nothing about dealing with it, unless you can remove yourself. I worry a lot about the future, and how I'm going to handle this all coming back from university (because I still want to see my siblings) and if I have children of my own (firstly, worried about exposing them to her, and secondly, about repeating what was done to me...)

Thoughts?

McCeltic Mom
June 17th, 2006, 07:25 PM
Whether your mother has been and / or is being emotionally abused, doesn't justify the horrible things she is saying to you. And whether you want to believe it or not, there's really nothing that you can do about her actions, it's your actions that matter now. Be the better person here and see what happens. (not saying that your aren't!)

At your age (and I've been there, not getting along with dear old mom) I would start taking on so much household responsiblity that dear old mom could really have nothing negative to say. I would wash my own clothes, wash up my own dishes, clean up my own messes. I would make a certain day a week to clean the house up. You can do it...I did it all starting around the age of 14. My mother screamed and hollered about everything, when I started doing all the house work...what did she have to holler about right?

Honestly, you and dear mom may never see eye to eye. But I also ask...what triggers these bad moods? She may be seriously going through menopause...or premenopause....or whatever... if so...http://www.johnleemd.com/index.html maybe print off some information and show her that you care about her physical well being...

I have no advice about the *witch* thing. I've no experience in that area as a young person...I was raised Christian.

Blessing to you dear!

NiftyWings
June 17th, 2006, 08:52 PM
From what you're describing, this is an extremely abusive situation. Who do you have around you that you can go to for help? A counselor at school, or your doctor perhaps? Not sure what the laws are where you live....do you have the option of leaving home and going elsewhere?

Garden of Eden
June 18th, 2006, 05:41 AM
I'm the responsibility of my parents until I'm eighteen, and that's that in this part of the world. I'm probably also, realistically, going to need some support from them while I'm at University. Though considering the things my mother's said about that, I don't think they're going to be giving me very much.

There isn't really anyone I can talk to-- I have a real problem managing to describe it as it really is. Writing all that down was pretty hard and I didn't expect it to make any sense, though it did in the end up. And, no matter what, every time I talk about, I start making excuses for her, and pinning the blame on my self. I can't stop myself doing that, even though I know deep down the situation is not my fault.

Mouse
June 18th, 2006, 06:45 AM
I'm so sorry sweatheart. I know what you are going through, and how it tears you apart. Is there a relitive who might take you in? even if you dont particularly like them that much..

I'm trying to remember the things my sister and I would do when were in the same situation. We both ran from home at a young age.

I know it's hard to talk about it, to not feel guilty and to make excuses, and to have so long to go before you are free. It makes me sad that you're so far away. If you were an aussie, I might be able to help you.

If you need to talk, I'm usually here several times a day, or I can give you my msn if you like.

You can do this, you can get through it, and no matter what it is not your fault. I'll keep you in my thoughts.

Sun Sprite
June 19th, 2006, 01:46 PM
I have been there. I escaped, but it took many years. I went to college, worked, and sent money back to her while in college. Not a good think. Finally, I accepted that where her mental illness was from, and totally brok off all contact for her sake, and mine when I was in my late 20's. I don't regret it. It has sure made my life easier, and I knew I could not help her.

You have to accept that she is mentally ill. You have to acccept that your dad is under the spell, and not able to leave himself, for whatever reason. Who knows what she does to him when he sticks up for you. You have to accept that you are a positive person, and most likely the exact opposite of everything she says. It will be tough when you get out on your own, you won't have any help from there, but you can find good people willing to help you, and be your friend.

StephanieAine
June 19th, 2006, 03:37 PM
Hi, Garden...

I have a link for you. It's called "The Nook" and it's for people who have relationships (via parent/child relationship or marriage or some other reason) with people who are Bipolar... but in many cases there are people there who are coping with relationships with parents/spouses who are *not* bipolar, but are emotionally abusive or highly obsessive and controlling for some other reason.
So - just because it's about BPD, don't blow it off! You'll probably discover that it's *extremely* helpful and insightful *anyway.*

There are many areas and so the site can get confusing... but I'll tell you this much: the area you want to start reading in is the area for "Unchosen Relationships" (the area where people talk about their parents or other relatives they have problems with... because obviously, you didn't choose that relationship; you were born into it, so it's unchosen). You'll probably want to use the search feature and plug in some words that you think will relate to your situation if you want to know about other people's horror stories... or I guess you could just jump in and share what's going on. I personally haven't joined, but I've spent hours reading about things there when I've been in my own family nightmares!

Here's a bit to get you started... first, the main link; then, links to a couple of interesting posts I just saw:
Unchosen Relationships section:
http://nook.bpdcentral.com/nookboard/index.php?board=7.0

Main index:
http://nook.bpdcentral.com/nookboard/index.php

Various threads you might find interesting:
http://nook.bpdcentral.com/nookboard/index.php?topic=25988.msg242109#msg242109

http://nook.bpdcentral.com/nookboard/index.php?topic=42534.0

Actually - this is better - I ran a search with "my mother" as the search term, LOL... you can browse them if you like!
http://nook.bpdcentral.com/nookboard/index.php?action=search2;params=YWR2YW5jZWR8J3wwfCJ8YnJkfCd8N3wifHNob3dfY29tcGxldGV8J3x8InxzdWJqZWN0 X29ubHl8J3x8Inxzb3J0fCd8cmVsZXZhbmNlfCJ8c29ydF9kaXJ8J3xkZXNjfCJ8c2VhcmNofCd8XCJteSBtb3RoZXJcIg==;sta rt=30

Not sure if any of this will resonate with you at all, but I figured that I might as well share it since it was the first thing that popped into my mind.

Good luck to you!
-Stevie

Morr
June 19th, 2006, 04:01 PM
Heya

Well, firstly, I will say first that my mother wasnt AS bad as you describe your mother.

My mother and I never ever saw eye to eye, since I was a little girl.

She is very controlling. Very fire-y. She has quite a temper...

When I was growing up she worked at city hall, so she was quite known around town. I was always the "daughter of", and because of that I had to measure up to some sort of perfect daughter image she had.

But I never did.

I was always too messy, too fat, too stupid, too obsessive, too childish, etc.

I wasnt called names TOO much. But I do recall being called a "fat cow" now and then.

While I dont blame her, I know she (and my dad who stood on her side quite a bit, though sometimes he'd be on my side... Which later on after he'd leave for work or go to sleep, my mom would creep into my room asking me "why do I have to fight with your father over YOU?"..) has a big role in my developing an eating disorder.

I was never good enough.

The solution in fact was me leaving home. Not being around her all the time, every day, made things BETTER. Though she still snaps at me for a lot of reasons (of course, I am too childish and stupid for being part of the goth subculture... My hair doesnt look right... and lately its been back to -- "Gotta lose weight, Michelle, you've gone overboard again... Do what you did last year, you lost so much weight! You actually looked good!"... Little did she know that I was starving myself because of her, and some other issues I had..).

I used to just take her bull.. I still do.. Like your mother, when my mom is on a tangent -- There is NO reasoning with her.

She gave me hell when I told her about semi. She gave me more hell when I told her we are getting married.

Now, she has relaxed. She finally realizes she CANT control me.

Though I am bound to them through financial issues (they help me with college tuition, but I am graduating this year) -- I have slowly escaped from her control freak act, and have shown her that I am my own person, independent.

If there is absolutely no one you can talk to, my best advice to you is to wait this last year (difficult, I know), and then when you are 18 -- Leave. Show your parents you are an independent, strong woman. Disproof all those things they called you.

I do, however, think you need to reach an adult, someone you can trust. Hell, print out what you wrote to us in your original post and hand it to someone who can help.

Whatever you choose to do -- We are here for you. I wish I could do more to help. If you were near Philadelphia in the US, I'd take you in myself (once semi and I move there), but alas you are all the way in Ireland.

Be strong, take care, dont believe her.

SHE is the one with the problems, SHE is the one who has issues.

Not you.

:hugz:

Garden of Eden
June 19th, 2006, 04:32 PM
Thanks, guys... I'm really honoured to have such an outpouring of support and empathy for my situation. Really. It helps so much. The next time it begins I'll just think of all of you-- who understand and care. And the advice is duly noted, I'll act upon it whenever possible.

Thanks. :)