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Merrick
June 24th, 2006, 03:22 AM
sorry if there's already a thread dedicated to this.
I saw the Divinci Code the other day. i have read the books and i can safely say that im a fan of Dan Browns theories, almost believing them entirely. his ideas are too well thought out and believable to be entirely fiction.
I wanted to know what other Pagans thought about his works. what are your thoughts and feelings on the Divinci Code?

Meimi
June 24th, 2006, 03:35 AM
Really. I don't see his theories as believable, or practical, in the least. I can't see it as more than a work of pure, poorly written fiction. Can't say I relate at all.

Merrick
June 24th, 2006, 03:41 AM
Really. I don't see his theories as believable, or practical, in the least. I can't see it as more than a work of pure, poorly written fiction. Can't say I relate at all.

A little far-fetched i'l agree but as a whole, its really knocked the Catholic Church about, so that means a lot of people somewhere must be seriously considering it.

Merilwen
June 24th, 2006, 03:42 AM
Do a little research on scholarly sites. While the theory is interesting, it is quite a stretch. Plus it is kind of hard to look past the shoddy editing and lack luster writing enough to take it seriously.

I did enjoy the movie (the fact that they actually had the characters from France speaking French was a very nice touch), and the book was an interesting read, but I can only take this book as seriously as the average fanfiction.

And lets not forget, it is a Fiction book, therefore it did not have to go through any peer review by scholars that know the material (a whole lot more than he does).

Meimi
June 24th, 2006, 03:46 AM
A little far-fetched i'l agree but as a whole, its really knocked the Catholic Church about, so that means a lot of people somewhere must be seriously considering it.

Doesn't change the fact that it's fiction and quite frankly, that's all it ever will be. Society can be gullible.

I honestly don't see how you can take a book of that stature to be serious in content at all. If you know enough about history, it just makes very little sense... bleh, I dunno. Wasn't the whole thing not even Dan Brown's original idea anyway?

Merrick
June 24th, 2006, 03:50 AM
Doesn't change the fact that it's fiction and quite frankly, that's all it ever will be. Society can be gullible.

I honestly don't see how you can take a book of that stature to be serious in content at all. If you know enough about history, it just makes very little sense... bleh, I dunno. Wasn't the whole thing not even Dan Brown's original idea anyway?

yeah, apparently someone tried to sue him for copywrite :s
i just enjoyed the concepts. theres a lot questions ive always held on the Catholic church and the Divinci Code, whether true or not, made me feel i wasnt the only one with doubts. for me, it was almost a feel-good movie. lol. but yes, people will believe anything. that much is true.

Grimr
June 24th, 2006, 04:18 AM
I thought the whole thing that Jesus had a girlfriend who with her had kids and such to be very interesting.

Other than that I am not sure.


I think it makes people intrigued.

Philosophia
June 24th, 2006, 04:21 AM
And lets not forget, it is a Fiction book, therefore it did not have to go through any peer review by scholars that know the material (a whole lot more than he does).

Even fiction books have to have some facts throughout it.

jcldragon
June 24th, 2006, 05:51 AM
Having been involved in Occult circles for nearly 40 years, I was aware of the material in Holy Blood, Holy Grail long before that book came out. Dan Brown used a lot of material you can find in Holy Blood, Holy Grail, fictionalized it, and made his murder mystery/thriller. The main author of that book refused to sue, although his two co-authors did.

I haven't seen the movie, but I did enjoy the book. If the Catholic Church takes some lumps over this, they've earned it, from keeping so many original documents buried away in the Vatican Library. If anything, I think Dan Brown's book may spur some people to dig a little deeper, and that has to be a good thing.

Cain
June 24th, 2006, 08:28 AM
I read the Holy Blood and the Holy Grail too. However, most researchers are now of the belief that the modern Priory of Sion is an invention of Pierre de Plantard and the Marquis de Cherissey and has little to with the historical order, if anything. Some have suggested it was more likely a cover invented by one of the European or American intelligence services for affairs concerning Operation Gladio, the stay-behind units to fight Communism in the event of a takeover of western Europe. Given the links to the Grand Alpina Lodge, who in turn have links to the notorious P2 Lodge of Licio Gelli (now disbanded, in Italy, anyway...) and the financial transactions made to Switzerland, not to mention cooperation with the Vatican in the late 80s, this is somewhat plausible, if lacking in concrete evidence.

Grimr
June 24th, 2006, 04:26 PM
Having been involved in Occult circles for nearly 40 years, I was aware of the material in Holy Blood, Holy Grail long before that book came out. Dan Brown used a lot of material you can find in Holy Blood, Holy Grail, fictionalized it, and made his murder mystery/thriller. The main author of that book refused to sue, although his two co-authors did.

I haven't seen the movie, but I did enjoy the book. If the Catholic Church takes some lumps over this, they've earned it, from keeping so many original documents buried away in the Vatican Library. If anything, I think Dan Brown's book may spur some people to dig a little deeper, and that has to be a good thing.

I haven't seen the movie , but I want to out of sheer curiousity.

Tanya
June 25th, 2006, 07:43 PM
I'm really proud of it, and thrilled so many people have read it. It brings to the fore a lot of the reasons' I found Catholosism unfullfilling and the reason nature religions and goddess focused belief id so important to us as humans.

MankyCat
June 26th, 2006, 10:32 AM
I thought the whole thing that Jesus had a girlfriend who with her had kids and such to be very interesting.


There are a bunch of people who believe that Jesus was married or some such and that his decendents live today and are protected by a special group. Something like the Order of the Rose or something. I'll have to look it up again. I heard about this many years ago and thought it a very interesting concept... then again, I was interested in a lot of things regarding the Bible/Catholic beliefs and texts and secret groups such as the illuminati. That was back in college. :hahugh:

Valnorran
June 26th, 2006, 11:55 AM
Just another conspiracy theory. The book wasn't bad, but I thought Angels and Demons was much better.

LacyRoze
June 26th, 2006, 12:13 PM
Just another conspiracy theory. The book wasn't bad, but I thought Angels and Demons was much better.

I just finished Angels and Demons and I loved it. It will make a great movie..

Novembers River
June 26th, 2006, 01:09 PM
I'm a believer in anything is possible. So, it's possible.

I thought the book was a good and fun read and the movie was ok.

shuvanilu
June 26th, 2006, 02:24 PM
Here's a lionk to a thread we had over in the Entertainment section not too long ago:hahugh: :

http://www.mysticwicks.com/showthread.php?t=130410

---shuvanilu

AussiePagan
June 27th, 2006, 10:15 AM
I've only seen the movie and I liked it as soon as I stopped mentally picking it apart :lol:. Although the description of pentagram and the describing roman paganism as the worship of a multitude of male deities, and one female really tweaked me.

David19
June 27th, 2006, 04:28 PM
I thought the book was ok, i haven't seen the movie yet, but i want to see X Men: the Last Stand first!, but i've seen people 'jump' all over it as if it 'reveals' the 'truth' about the Catholic Church, it's fiction, there may be some kind of 'truth' in it, maybe Jesus did have kids, afterall he was teen, it's hard to believe he was never 'tempted' once by girl (or maybe guy!), but it was 2000 years ago, who knows if they're still alive (if he had any descendants), although something my mum said (she's not Christian, BTW), if he did, then they would, most likely, be in the Middle East so who knows, maybe Bush has blown them up now or even if they did come to Europe, it's hard to believe Middle Eastern Jew's could go 'unnoticable' in countries that had probably never set foot outside Europe (i doubt most of the French and German's at that time knew of the Jews, or where the Middle East was, although the Roman's would have been very familar with them).

wolf
June 27th, 2006, 05:06 PM
Just another conspiracy theory. The book wasn't bad, but I thought Angels and Demons was much better.

Angels and Demons was a much better story ... I thought that the novel of The DaVinci Code was too slowly paced and at least two of the "big hard puzzles" were pretty much no-brainers for folks that were supposed to be DaVinci Scholars and/or codebreakers.

I did think that the movie was better since they had to tighten up the plot to keep the action moving.

I don't think the notion of The Christ having had offspring is as big of a deal as most folks are making it, as it does not detract from the his divinity ... it all seemed like a repackaging of the furor over The Last Temptation of Christ.

Hellenic_Witch
June 27th, 2006, 05:53 PM
Angels and Demons was a much better story ... I thought that the novel of The DaVinci Code was too slowly paced and at least two of the "big hard puzzles" were pretty much no-brainers for folks that were supposed to be DaVinci Scholars and/or codebreakers.

I did think that the movie was better since they had to tighten up the plot to keep the action moving.

I don't think the notion of The Christ having had offspring is as big of a deal as most folks are making it, as it does not detract from the his divinity ... it all seemed like a repackaging of the furor over The Last Temptation of Christ.

Angels and Demons IS much, much better! More suspense, I cared about where the story was going, and the end surprised me. Da Vinci code was predictable, I felt the plot grew a little stale early on in the book. Bleh.

Haven't seen the movie yet. Can't see shelling out $20 bucks + a small fortune for a small coke and popcorn to see a movie about a book I didn't really like. I'll wait until it comes out on DVD. But, I do hope Tom Hanks will reprise the role if they make a movie based on Angels and Demons! THAT I'll pay to go see.

Arion
June 27th, 2006, 06:34 PM
I haven't read the book or seen the movie, but I did see a documentary on A&E about the story, and I thought it was ridiculous. It's a novel, nothing more. People should stop getting so hot and bothered over a silly story. There are plenty of non-fiction books that say Catholicism is crap, I don't see why people are treating this thriller novel like some kind of revelation (pardon the pun).

RunningRiot
June 27th, 2006, 06:53 PM
I saw the movie in the theatre with a few friends, and we all liked the ideas it presented; they're the taboo ones everyone shuns, so of course we liked it.

Otherwise I think the ideas are very solid, they do seem to say something.