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Karyan
September 19th, 2006, 12:36 AM
So, its 11:30 pm and as I'm on my way to get my forgotten mail from today I'm preparing myself for the 2 or 3 roaches that are usually in there this time of night. I lower the door and shine the flash light only to see a package, some letters and a black widow. Is there anyway to remove it and my mail with out getting myself hurt or killing it? I don't want to kill it.

Aleannah
September 19th, 2006, 12:48 AM
take a pair of tongs and pull out the mail, most likely shaking off the spider in the process. :)

mol
September 19th, 2006, 12:48 AM
take a pair of tongs and pull out the mail, most likely shaking off the spider in the process. :)
That would be my suggestion. Or get some gloves. =] Black widows are beautiful.

Philosophia
September 19th, 2006, 12:49 AM
take a pair of tongs and pull out the mail, most likely shaking off the spider in the process. :)

I second this...

Or you could wear a pair of gardening gloves?

Iris
September 19th, 2006, 12:53 AM
Congratulations, you just made a thread about my worst nightmare 0_o

We don't have black widows in england. I HOPE. _inabox_

Tanya
September 19th, 2006, 12:59 AM
I'm sorry to say I am a widow killer. At least until my daughter is a little bigger. Their bites can be so painful they send little kids into shock. :(

mol
September 19th, 2006, 01:01 AM
I'm sorry to say I am a widow killer. At least until my daughter is a little bigger. Their bites can be so painful they send little kids into shock. :(
No way to remove them safely without killing them?

GEBS
September 19th, 2006, 01:01 AM
take a pair of tongs and pull out the mail, most likely shaking off the spider in the process. :)


or wait until someone else is around to get it for you :lol: that's what I'd do. I'm such a sissy when it comes to bugs.

Karyan
September 19th, 2006, 01:01 AM
take a pair of tongs and pull out the mail, most likely shaking off the spider in the process. :)

Ah. A simple solution. Which is EXACTLY why I didn't think of it. lol.

And I whole heartedly agree that they are beautiful creatures. The fact that black and red are my two favorite colors helps. :)

Philosophia
September 19th, 2006, 01:01 AM
I'm sorry to say I am a widow killer. At least until my daughter is a little bigger. Their bites can be so painful they send little kids into shock. :(

I agree. Black Widows and Redback spiders are common around my house and they will get killed. I lost a guinea pig to them and won't hesitate to spray them.

Karyan
September 19th, 2006, 01:04 AM
I agree. Black Widows and Redback spiders are common around my house and they will get killed. I lost a guinea pig to them and won't hesitate to spray them.

Red back spiders???

mol
September 19th, 2006, 01:06 AM
Egads..I try to not kill anything.

GEBS
September 19th, 2006, 01:08 AM
Egads..I try to not kill anything.
what about bears? You have no love for the poor bears. :(

Philosophia
September 19th, 2006, 01:08 AM
Red back spiders???

I'm not going to show a picture (in case somebody is arachnophobic) but the females are black with a bright red stripe (which is why they're named "red back"). I think, but I could be wrong, that they are native to Australia.

mol
September 19th, 2006, 01:09 AM
what about bears? You have no love for the poor bears. :(
I would eat them...at least. =]

GEBS
September 19th, 2006, 01:11 AM
I would eat them...at least. =]
You're so mean. Don't ever harm a snake but it's ok to kill a bear as long as he's dinner?? Sheesh... poor cuddly creatures. they get no love from you, do they?

Karyan
September 19th, 2006, 01:11 AM
Alright guys, I'm on a mission. I'll get the tongs ready and be back to let you all know what happened.

mol
September 19th, 2006, 01:12 AM
You're so mean. Don't ever harm a snake but it's ok to kill a bear as long as he's dinner?? Sheesh... poor cuddly creatures. they get no love from you, do they?
Cuddly?!! I don't see a grizzly coming towards me at 150 mph....cuddly. I call it dinner.

mol
September 19th, 2006, 01:13 AM
Alright guys, I'm on a mission. I'll get the tongs ready and be back to let you all know what happened.
Be extremely careful! =]

GEBS
September 19th, 2006, 01:15 AM
Cuddly?!! I don't see a grizzly coming towards me at 150 mph....cuddly. I call it dinner.
but a croc or snake coming at you is cuddly?


speaking of cuddly, isn't it near bedtime?

mol
September 19th, 2006, 01:18 AM
but a croc or snake coming at you is cuddly?


speaking of cuddly, isn't it near bedtime?
Yes...and yes!

Karyan
September 19th, 2006, 01:22 AM
Alright...I got the mail but Miss Widow is still taking residence in the mailbox. She's situated at the back of the mail box and hangs from her web up top and when I shine the light in there she climbs up the web and hides in the cracks. So I can't get her out. I might have to leave a note for the mail lady.

mol
September 19th, 2006, 01:24 AM
Alright...I got the mail but Miss Widow is still taking residence in the mailbox. She's situated at the back of the mail box and hangs from her web up top and when I shine the light in there she climbs up the web and hides in the cracks. So I can't get her out. I might have to leave a note for the mail lady.
I would definitely leave a note. Might try going out there again in a bit. With no mail to scare her, you might be able to get tongs and rake the web down and pull her out.

Know Your Rights
September 19th, 2006, 01:25 AM
That may be a thoughtful idea, and I'm sure the mail-lady will be thankful that you told her, so that she doesn't get aggrivate the spider and get bit.

person of shadow
September 19th, 2006, 01:25 AM
Poor mail lady, my moms one, she hates when spiders jump out at her, especialy the one that went down her shirt. She did the spider dance in the middle of someones driveway. :lol:

Karyan
September 19th, 2006, 01:26 AM
K. Thanks, Mol! I'll see if I can't find some gloves somewhere too....

Tanya
September 19th, 2006, 01:49 AM
No way to remove them safely without killing them?

well with any other spider we put them outside in the garden. But when you havea toddler playing naked in your garden.... and its an hour drive to the ER..... really the catching is easy, the "where in the world do I put her now..." is the hard part.

On the positive, we do have a quite poisonus red bellied black snake near our house we have made peace with... but black widdows under the toilet seat....are a bit too familiar.

NiftyWings
September 19th, 2006, 02:22 AM
Oh Crap....WHY did I read this thread right before going to bed???


:awilly:


NW
Now has a serious case of the willies.

Silvana
September 19th, 2006, 02:28 AM
I'd kill it. But then, I also go into panic attacks when spiders are on me or around me. I'm not even afraid of the, I can look at pictures all day or see one, but if one is on me I freak out and can't control it. I've passed out a few times. Hence it is now time for dead spiders. I'd spray that black widow to death with whatever handy dandy spider poision I could find at the store.

Good luck to you though. My suggestion is to hose her out. That shouldn't kill her, it should just wash her out of the box if you don't put it on full blast.

person of shadow
September 19th, 2006, 02:29 AM
Oh Crap....WHY did I read this thread right before going to bed???


:awilly:


NW
Now has a serious case of the willies.
Here, this freaked me out....

Once when i was just getting ready to doze off, I saw something black on my ceiling...I got up turned on my light and with no exhageration I saw a spider the size of my palm!!!!!!! At first I tried to get it to climb on a stick...no such luck, he liked my warm room. I tryied some other things to no gain.

In the end I called for someone else to kill it.:( I felt so bad. I slept on the couch that night, one because I had the willies, and two because every time I'd look up and think"he died", I wasn't crying for him but well....he deserved to live just as much as me...I just didn't want him living in my house.

Cindlady2
September 19th, 2006, 02:31 AM
Have to catch a Black Widow? That's what 10 year old boys with jars are for!
OK, so we were a bit fool hardy as kids! :smash::excuseme:

Aleannah
September 19th, 2006, 04:06 AM
Have to catch a Black Widow? That's what 10 year old boys with jars are for!
OK, so we were a bit fool hardy as kids! :smash::excuseme:

That was going to be my suggestion for in the daytime...use a jar and catch it and let it go outside the mailbox....waaaaaaaaay outside. I'm not really afraid of spiders, but I react poorly to their bites, so hubby kills any that he sees....I simply warn them that they have 15 seconds to get out of my sight, and if I come back into the room and they're still there, they will be killed. They're usually gone when I do that. :)

WiccanGoddess
September 19th, 2006, 09:33 AM
Had this same situation three years past.

Mum and I went to go check the mail...reached our hands in and came across something....fuzzy.

We both shined a flashlight in and screamed bloody murder.

Our mailcarrier took care of it for us, spraying some insecticide...didn't work, though. The widow had babies. We had to dismantle the box and kill from there.

*shivers*

AutumnWitchie
September 19th, 2006, 12:46 PM
At least it wasn't one of those big hairy tarantulas like I saw in Texas! No kidding, there was one on the road that was a good 6 inches across. It tried to attack the car as we drove past(jumped at the car). That was big, bold critter!:awilly:

Aleannah
September 19th, 2006, 12:53 PM
Had this same situation three years past.

Mum and I went to go check the mail...reached our hands in and came across something....fuzzy.

We both shined a flashlight in and screamed bloody murder.

Our mailcarrier took care of it for us, spraying some insecticide...didn't work, though. The widow had babies. We had to dismantle the box and kill from there.

*shivers*

EEEEEEEEEEEEK! :awilly:

Old Witch
September 19th, 2006, 01:02 PM
You know, black widows like to live in nests of many black widows...I'm very serious when I say get a new mailbox...on the upside tho a single black widow bite probably won't kill you....

Astara Seague
September 19th, 2006, 01:06 PM
At least it wasn't one of those big hairy tarantulas like I saw in Texas! No kidding, there was one on the road that was a good 6 inches across. It tried to attack the car as we drove past(jumped at the car). That was big, bold critter!:awilly:
at least they dont bite people.. I actually like the feel of a tranutula walking on my skin..

but Black Widows..well that is quite a different story, they do scare me but they are rather interesting, they do live in groups though so.. Id say get a new mailbox too

Bluewillow
September 19th, 2006, 01:13 PM
At least it wasn't one of those big hairy tarantulas like I saw in Texas! No kidding, there was one on the road that was a good 6 inches across. It tried to attack the car as we drove past(jumped at the car). That was big, bold critter!:awilly:

Whoa! lol That'd scare me silly. My mom used to tell me stories about how, when she lived with her parents and my uncle on a ranch in New Mexico, she and my uncle would literally play with tarantulas........well, she's a brave woman, but there's not a chance in hell of me ever doing that. :lol:

As for Black Widows, I had always heard that a bite is deadly?

In any event, I'm going with the new mailbox idea as well....

serenarian
September 19th, 2006, 05:12 PM
I'm so terrified of spiders that if it were me I would probably have set the mailbox on fire or something just to get rid of it. I have no tolerance for them at all - even talking about a spider will make me too scared to sleep. Reading this thread is making my skin crawl...but I'll be ok once I post this reply! :)

Karyan
September 20th, 2006, 04:14 AM
Live in groups??? Not good...I'll run the new mailbox idea by my parents.

Cat
September 20th, 2006, 06:24 AM
EW! EW! EW!

Get a new mailbox.

Karyan
September 20th, 2006, 12:29 PM
Well, the new mailbox idea isn't going to fly. Our mailbox is encased with brick. I thought that there might be some way to remove it but there isn't with out destroying the brick around it. I think my mom is just going to kill it. :( Oh, well....at least I won't have to do it.

RoseKitten
September 20th, 2006, 12:32 PM
I love spiders and all, but if they're dangerous, they go splat. It's not worth the risk of being bitten *shrugs*

MankyCat
September 20th, 2006, 12:49 PM
They entered my territory (in essence, my version of a web). Therefore, I feel little guilt if I kill one indoors (in a shed or in my mailbox). I will try to get most of them outside my territory alive (or should I say, get my boyfriend to get them out). If they are outside and not putting my family/pets/self at risk, then I will leave them alone.

If I were smaller then them and I happened into their territory/web, they would not show the same mercy of letting me go. They know the drill.

Though... I have been letting the ones in the stairs that lead from my outside door to my inside door stay for the time being. THey will be escorted out eventually, but there's no hurry. I have on that set up a web near my indoor door. I told him, he can stay for now, but if he or any of the others enter the house, I may well kill him/them. I haven't found one since (the one in the pantry was before this... and he was escorted out. I'm sure he found his way back to the stairway... spiders seem to like me. Me? They give me heebie jeebies. Working on that though).

Tarbh Nathroch
September 20th, 2006, 01:20 PM
I'm sorry to say I am a widow killer. At least until my daughter is a little bigger. Their bites can be so painful they send little kids into shock. :(

Same here they were always allowed at my place until my daughter got old enough to walk around. The back playroom and the garage, also a playroom, are now a instant kill zone for them and brown recluse as well. They are still welcome to the shed and mail box.

Cerberos
September 20th, 2006, 01:47 PM
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:awilly: why did i read this thread!!! why? :awilly: why? why? :awilly: _inabox_ :woah: :fpeek:

Meadhbh
September 20th, 2006, 02:33 PM
If I were you I'd stomp it and then stomp it some more. I've only had a black widow incounter once before while I was visiting friends in Arizona and one crawled across my hand. My horribly misguided life flashed before my eyes, I don't like spiders of any kind.

NiftyWings
September 20th, 2006, 07:54 PM
at least they dont bite people.. I actually like the feel of a tranutula walking on my skin..



EEEEYYYYEEEEWWWW!!!! *shudders*

WiccanGoddess
September 20th, 2006, 10:10 PM
Spray the spider.

If that doesn't work, grab at a tongs and pull it out.

You may have to disassemble your mailbox, though...it's what we had to do...but then again, our widow had little widows with her. *shivers*.

Our mailcarrier reported it after being bitten by it...thank goddess he survived that! The bite is usually fatal! By sheer luck, he was wearing some thick padded gloves b/c it was 45 degrees outside. Lucky. Pure luck.

We now have a new mailbox...with a backdoor for situations like this. ;)

Tarbh Nathroch
September 21st, 2006, 03:35 PM
[QUOTE=WiccanGoddess;2811690]The bite is usually fatal!QUOTE]

Black widow bites are very rarely fatal and it is usually because of pre-existing health issues, the very old or the very young if they are.

If you are ever bitten the cure is much scarier than the bite. The doc will give you two options to let it run its course with the aid of pain killers which can leave you sick for weeks or to take the ant-venom which will have you feeling right as rain in 20min but tends to flat line 25% of the people its give to from sever allergic reaction.

(Yes you will see if you hunt around the web that the majority of deaths from spider bits in the US are from widows but don't let the wording demonize the little fellas. It is very very rare to die)