I saw the crystal skull in the British Museum

[Tanemon]

I'm just bringing the subject of a crystal skull up here because there may be people posting here who know something about the various crystal skulls - the small number of them which are said to be very old, not the "more recent fakes".

I saw one of them, said to be old, at the British Museum about a week or so ago. It came from a family whose forebear claimed he'd found it in an archaeological dig. I realize this skull thing will not be big news to MysticWickers in London and its general area... but, hey, I'm from a mountain-rural area of western Canada, so it was pretty cool and a bit intriguing for me.

And I should also say, I don't know much about any crystal skull, so I decided to look up the topic on the Wikipedia after I got back home. The Wikipedia article expresses skepticism about the age and any 'subtle power' of the skulls (there are a number of them, including the one that I saw, that are believed by some people to be ancient). Reading that article didn't offend me... I know some people are going to make a judgment like that right off the bat!

Anyways, does anyone here know anything much about it?

:sunny: Tanemon

[puchidevil]

i remember reading something about these skulls..........but it was a while ago now lol

I remember there are supposed to be 7 or 8 original ones, they vary in size, and are extremely accurate renditions of human skulls. Very very old, and far too accurate anatomical wise as well as smooth, which leads some people to believe they are of extra terrestrial origin.

As for the origins and the powers they supposedly possess..............well, the jury is still out for me on that one

All the same though, was very interesting to read about

[lightdragon]

i read about those a while back. Those are considered fakes. I believe they were made in the late 19th or early 20th century. Brillent artwork and you could go to some crystal shops and get a crystal skull for your very own. a bit expensive,depends on how accurate in anatomy you want as well as the size of the skull.

[Tanemon]

i remember reading something about these skulls..........but it was a while ago now lol

I remember there are supposed to be 7 or 8 original ones, they vary in size, and are extremely accurate renditions of human skulls. Very very old, and far too accurate anatomical wise as well as smooth, which leads some people to believe they are of extra terrestrial origin.

As for the origins and the powers they supposedly possess..............well, the jury is still out for me on that one

All the same though, was very interesting to read about

You're not in London, hey Puchi? Your profile says that you live in the U.K., and I sort of assume that if you were in London you'd have gone to the British Museum for a look.

As I recall, the text panel beside the crystal skull in the Museum only mentioned that the teeth (on microscopic inspection) seemed to have been made using rotary tools (in other words, showed score marks or seemed imperfect). The implication was that, therefore, the skull couldn't be an ancient human artifact.

:sunny: Tanemon

[Fluoxetine]

I would assume that the crystal skulls are suspect. The victorians were known to make up historical artefacts to please shareholders and enthral the public. Most of these were "follies". Rebuilt castle ruins that look old but were made in the 19th century. Victorians loved the idea of something unimaginable and strange with the rise of spiritualism from the Fox hauntings and subsequent explosion of spiritual mediums.

The skulls may be victorian as they could have made them, placed them in an area known to be getting dug up and lo, you have an anomoly. So it is either a clever victorian hoax that no one owned up to, or it is alien intervention (which could be 1000-1 against IMO).

[puchidevil]

You're not in London, hey Puchi? Your profile says that you live in the U.K., and I sort of assume that if you were in London you'd have gone to the British Museum for a look.

As I recall, the text panel beside the crystal skull in the Museum only mentioned that the teeth (on microscopic inspection) seemed to have been made using rotary tools (in other words, showed score marks or seemed imperfect). The implication was that, therefore, the skull couldn't be an ancient human artifact.

:sunny: Tanemon

Hehehehe no, im not in london.............im 'up north' actually, not far from where fluoxetine is lol

I did spend a short break in london last month, and we did visit the British Museum. However, we never even came across the skull, and wasnt aware it was there. And im surprised that the skulls were imperfect, from what i remember from my readings, the skulls were perfectly smooth and perfectly rendered. Oh welll lol

Anyway, this subject reminds me of the 'ancient' skeletons found some years ago that had undergone 'modern' type surgery, with what seemed like precision tools far outreaching the medical knowledge and tool capabilities of the times.

[coaxialkettle]

the gypsy switch and also
"even a dog's tooth may do..."
originals recognize each other regardless of open or close fake
transatlantic prevailing Winds blow
same procedure as every year,James...

[Tanemon]

Hehehehe no, im not in london.............im 'up north' actually, not far from where fluoxetine is lol
I came down on the train from Inverness to London. Would I have gone through your home countryside, or been a ways off?

I did spend a short break in london last month, and we did visit the British Museum. However, we never even came across the skull, and wasnt aware it was there. And im surprised that the skulls were imperfect, from what i remember from my readings, the skulls were perfectly smooth and perfectly rendered. Oh welll lol
The score marks were said to be microscopic, so in one sense they would not really be imperfections. But apparently they do indicate the use of 19th or 20th-century tools (or so says the British Museum staff).

Something I read somewhere (and can't remember where) said that it may have been just the teeth on the skull that showed score marks. ???

Anyway, this subject reminds me of the 'ancient' skeletons found some years ago that had undergone 'modern' type surgery, with what seemed like precision tools far outreaching the medical knowledge and tool capabilities of the times.
Yeah, it's that sort of question. Yet if some advanced ancient civilization like Atlantis every did exist on Earth, well obviously they're technology might, long ago, have been as effective for making crystal skulls as European tech of the last 130 years, no?

I looked at the skull in a "value-neutral" sort of way, not passing any sort of judgement about its "authenticity" or age. I looked at it and sort of 'stood in its presence'.

And in one way, I'm more curious about people's experience... I mean, I don't think I was able to spend more than 10 minutes around the skull, whereas some other people may have spent far longer.

:sunny: Tanemon

[Fluoxetine]

I came down on the train from Inverness to London. Would I have gone through your home countryside, or been a ways off?
:sunny: Tanemon


You may have done. Depends if you went through York or Leeds, you would have gone through my stomping ground. If it was Manchester then it will have been Puchi's area.

Even though there are ancient cities that predate the last ice age, most were on the Tropic of Cancer line around the earth. There are some off the coast of India and Japan. Although Alexandria in the Mediteranian [sp] sea was caused by the flood which breached the wall between Africa and Spain, that was due to the sea encroaching onto land. The old cities are there (see the Mesopotamia in eastern Iraq as an example), they did have technology, but some of it has been lost over the centuries.

[ViolinGoddess]

I learned about the crystal skells. If I remember correctly, there are supposed to be about 12 of them. So far we have only found about 5 or 6. Some are in museums and some are in private collections or homes. They are from south america, various places. All of the skulls have been found have been found in acheological digs. From legend, they were supposed to be made by eiither the Aztecs or the Incas. The skulls have been studied extensively by experts and their findings are amazing. There are absolutely no tool marks on them whatsoever. Neither hand tooled marks or machine tooled marks. Everything ever made shows some kind of tool marks under a microscope. But these skulls do not. So, according to scientists, these skylls shouldn't even exsist. Those who beleive in the power of the skulls beleive that they hold a vast amount of information that we as a human race are not technologically advanced (or spritually advanced) to understand or extract from the skulls. The reason people think that they contain a massive amount of information is because of the technology of computer chips. We use quartz crystals to hold information in out computers.

Violin Goddess

[Tanemon]

I learned about the crystal skells. If I remember correctly, there are supposed to be about 12 of them. So far we have only found about 5 or 6. Some are in museums and some are in private collections or homes. They are from south america, various places. All of the skulls have been found have been found in acheological digs. From legend, they were supposed to be made by eiither the Aztecs or the Incas. The skulls have been studied extensively by experts and their findings are amazing. There are absolutely no tool marks on them whatsoever. Neither hand tooled marks or machine tooled marks. Everything ever made shows some kind of tool marks under a microscope. But these skulls do not. So, according to scientists, these skylls shouldn't even exsist. Those who beleive in the power of the skulls beleive that they hold a vast amount of information that we as a human race are not technologically advanced (or spritually advanced) to understand or extract from the skulls. The reason people think that they contain a massive amount of information is because of the technology of computer chips. We use quartz crystals to hold information in out computers.

Hi. Do you remember where your information about the skulls comes from?

And what do you think about the fact that the text panel that the British Museum put with their crystal skull's showcase mentions microscopic score marks?

I'm not a skeptic about psychic and spiritual things, by any means. But I do know that anyone who writes a book or article may subtly select his/her information and the tone of expression so as to put across his/her opinion as fact (either as a skeptic or a believer). What I wonder about is whether there may be some writer who has put together a complete and unbiased presentation of the facts (?). The scant amount of text the British Museum presents is obviously not complete, and may well not be unbiased.

Anyway, like I said before, whatever experiences people may have had with the skulls is also interesting to me... quite apart from "facts" and speculations.

:sunny: Tanemon

[ViolinGoddess]

Hi. Do you remember where your information about the skulls comes from?

And what do you think about the fact that the text panel that the British Museum put with their crystal skull's showcase mentions microscopic score marks?

I got this information for a show on the Travel Channel. I can't remember all of the information, but what I posted was what I could remember. Honestly, about the "microscopic score marks" I would say that it was a fake. Because the show I watched made it very clear about there being any tool marks on any of them.

If you'd like to see the show I watched, your chances are better if you watch the Travel Channel on friday nights. That's when they show shows about mysterious things like ghosts, haunted houses, Bigfoot, Nessy, etc. Spesifically, the show I saw it on was a "top ten" show on the worlds most mysterious places (or things). SOmething like that.

I hope that helps.

Violin Goddess

[Tanemon]

I got this information for a show on the Travel Channel. I can't remember all of the information, but what I posted was what I could remember. Honestly, about the "microscopic score marks" I would say that it was a fake. Because the show I watched made it very clear about there being any tool marks on any of them.
Thanks. Don't know if you read the Wikipedia article ("Crystal Skull")? In part, it says: "The British Museum crystal skull and the one at Paris' Musée de l'Homme (half-sized) were both originally sold by a French collector of pre-Columbian artifacts and antiques dealer named Boban. The British Museum crystal skull transited through New York's Tiffany's, whilst the Musée de l'Homme's crystal skull was donated by a collector who had bought it from Boban. It is reasonable to speculate that the Mitchell-Hedges skull also came from Boban."

The Mitchell-Hedges skull is apparently the best known and the one most studied by experts. But these other two, also mentioned above, are nearly as well known as the Mitchell-Hedges... from what I've been able to learn.

:sunny: Tanemon

[pluralone]

This is only loosely connected to the subject and yet I feel inclined to add it here: Native American tradition has it that quartz crystals are the 'brain cells of the earth'.

I have a particular affinity with quartz; I can imagine that large pieces such as those described here, if the crystal itself was not man-made but rather carved natural crystal, would hold a tremendous amount of energy no matter who made it and what their intent was for doing so.

Just my two cents' worth....

[ViolinGoddess]

Thanks. Don't know if you read the Wikipedia article ("Crystal Skull")? In part, it says: "The British Museum crystal skull and the one at Paris' Musée de l'Homme (half-sized) were both originally sold by a French collector of pre-Columbian artifacts and antiques dealer named Boban. The British Museum crystal skull transited through New York's Tiffany's, whilst the Musée de l'Homme's crystal skull was donated by a collector who had bought it from Boban. It is reasonable to speculate that the Mitchell-Hedges skull also came from Boban."

The Mitchell-Hedges skull is apparently the best known and the one most studied by experts. But these other two, also mentioned above, are nearly as well known as the Mitchell-Hedges... from what I've been able to learn.

:sunny: Tanemon

===> I don't remember how many skulls there were in the world and by whom they were owned. But I do remember that an elderly woman who lives in Canada owns one because her father was an archiologist in either the 20's or the 30's and she was with him on a dig as a teenager whent hey found the skull.

Violin Goddess