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soul_searcher
October 5th, 2006, 01:18 AM
Hello. I was just wondering if money spells work? If I ever learn to do spells, etc. I am hoping I can do one so that I could build my mom a house - her house is in really had shape and literally falling in :( As long as I had enough money for that, I would be happy :)

Tanya
October 5th, 2006, 01:53 AM
in a word...

No.

working works though.

soul_searcher
October 5th, 2006, 02:01 AM
in a word...

No.

working works though.

Wow, that was very rude and unnecessary. Actually, working doesn't always work because you cannot earn enough money to do what you need. This is why such a large part of families live in poverty, despite working. Did you know the average single woman making minimum wage or even slightly above, working 40 hours a week, and living on her own cannot technically afford the bills? Does working work for these types of people? No, they do not.

So, in the future, if you only have sarcastic, rude things to say, please keep them to yourself as I (as I am sure others in this forum) do not need the negativity.

Tanya
October 5th, 2006, 02:04 AM
Sorry it wasn't what you wanted to hear but working DOES work better than sitting around wishing.

I sought neither to be rude OR sarcastic.. sorry honesty hurts.

I will speak here as I wish, please lets not tell folks not to speak, that is rude.

soul_searcher
October 5th, 2006, 02:07 AM
Sorry it wasn't what you wanted to hear but working DOES work better than sitting around wishing.

I sought neither to be rude OR sarcastic.. sorry honesty hurts.

I will speak here as I wish, please lets not tell folks not to speak, that is rude.

Actually, it is rude and it is not honest, it is complete bs. I do not "sit around wishing" as you put it - I have worked hard my entire life - since age 14 in fact, so do not try to tell me I just sit around wishing. Also, I noticed you have nothing to say about the hundreds of thousands that live in poverty, despite working. I guess because you know it will blow your rude and illogical comments out of the water.

It is not rude to request that you are not rude to me. There is no sense in acting in such a way to a simple question. period.

Aleannah
October 5th, 2006, 02:21 AM
do money spells work? yes and no...spells for certain amounts of money, or to win the lottery, or stuff like that generally do not work. Spells to increase your income, to get a better paying job, etc. have a better chance of working, but obvously, you have to do the mundane part as well. All the spells do is maybe increase the odds in your favor by a tiny percentage. I have had money spells work, but usually in a roundabout way...I hope that makes some sense. :)

Philosophia
October 5th, 2006, 02:23 AM
I think money spells work, just not in the way we want them to.

soul_searcher
October 5th, 2006, 02:25 AM
do money spells work? yes and no...spells for certain amounts of money, or to win the lottery, or stuff like that generally do not work. Spells to increase your income, to get a better paying job, etc have a better chance of working, but obvously, you have to do the mundane part as well. All the spells do is maybe increase the odds in your favor by a tiny percentage. I have had money spells work, but usually in a roundabout way...I hope that makes some sense. :)


Actually that makes perfect sense. That is in fact, what I was asking by posting this question because I had read somewhere on a site that does magic spells for you, that you can do a money spell and it can help you get a higher paying job, help you work your finances better (although I am pretty good at that), and other things of that nature. It also said that money spells can help you find items for sale (therefore saving you money). I wasn't entirely sure of this site, so that is why I thought I would post it here. It is such a shame that other people must feel the need to be horrible :(

Thank you so much for answering my question once again :)

Thanks to Minerva_Mind for replying too :) - I LOVE your quotes, lol

Aleannah
October 5th, 2006, 02:35 AM
It's an iffy thing...I've also had them have no effect whatsoever. :)

I don't think the poster was trying to be rude, really...sometimes people post in a very matter-of-fact way, and that is sometimes misconstrued as being rude. Tuck your feathers back in and realize that most people here are not trying to put you down or make fun of you...actually, look at it as a different point of view that you may never have had the opportunity to have if you had not asked the question. People here are generally friendly, and it's nearly impossible to tell the "tone" of typed conversation. :hugz: If you are truly offended by someone breaking the respect rule, then hit the report button.

soul_searcher
October 5th, 2006, 02:51 AM
I know what you are saying, but I honestly don't think it was the case in this instance, although I am human and prone to error ;) I cannot look at it as another point of view as one wasn't offered (which is also why it indicates to me that it was meant to be rude) ;)

I am very open to other points of view, in fact I love seeing two sides to a story, but I don't really need two sides to this story as it was only a question and not a statement of belief on my part - if that makes sense.

But I do totally get what you are saying ;)

Mouse
October 5th, 2006, 02:57 AM
Yep they work. That said I'm still living on the poverty line and in debt. :lol: They take a lot of effort. The more money - the more effort. But I've had some success with them, without a great deal of mundane work. I'm not saying I'm getting money for nothing - you never get something for nothing - but that some spells can take their tolls in different ways. It can be a want vrs need thing. If you "ask out of need not out of greed" you're far more likely to get the money.

Mate, don't go paying sites to do your spells for you, it's usually a scam. Pay me! (j/k) But seriously money spells - correction, most spells - don't take a lot of ingredience to make them work and the bits are cheap enough to buy. Better than paying some scammer.

LordHelmet
October 5th, 2006, 03:13 AM
OK, that's it, again and again the questions I had in the beginning...

Do love potions work? where can I get them?? Can money spells get me money if I have a good reason? does it help to have a profesional do it? Are there any spells to make my eyes red or make my girlfriends boobies and my dick bigger?

It's time for a premptive thread.

ModernKnight
October 5th, 2006, 06:39 AM
There are hundreds of ways to do magick to improve your money, but that will never make it fall from the sky for you. Look at your job situation and see where it is needed most. At work, are your efforts going unnoticed? Do a working to improve your reputation and you may get a raise. Reputation workings have great impact on promotions and job-searching. Is a coworker holding you back? Do a working to aid your resolving the conflict (and try to resolve it). Do you have some savings? Do a divination to guide how you invest it. I hope this gives you some ideas to start with.

demonique
October 5th, 2006, 07:28 AM
I have had them work, but it's certainly not a "get rich quick" scheme. But I have done financial spells that have indeed worked. But all they did was open the door to opportunity - I still had to reach out and seize it.

I also don't think the original poster meant to be rude - only to speak an opinion a little blatantly. There /are/ quite a few people who post things like: "Do money spells work?" expecting someone to say something like: "Yeah. Do this one, and you'll never need a job again." and get upset when posters reply that magic doesn't /quite/ work like that. ;-)

But that said, I've been pleased with my results.

soul_searcher
October 5th, 2006, 12:06 PM
I also don't think the original poster meant to be rude - only to speak an opinion a little blatantly. There /are/ quite a few people who post things like: "Do money spells work?" expecting someone to say something like: "Yeah. Do this one, and you'll never need a job again." and get upset when posters reply that magic doesn't /quite/ work like that. ;-)


Hi everyone and thank you for your responses. I would like to point out that I never thought it would fall from the sky - as explained before - I wondered if it would HELP the traditional methods (i.e. working, saving, etc). ;)

Again, I still think she was meaning to be rude - I never expected everyone to say yes they work. It was a simple question as I had no idea - if I already knew the answer I wanted, I wouldn't have asked. I realize you are saying that people post things like this expecting that kind of answer, but I am simply not one of those people :) Again, if she wasn't trying to be rude but trying to state it blatantly, she could have said, no they do not work, the only way to really earn the money is to work - that would have been understandable.

I realize people are bound to defend those they have known longer, but I sincerely don't see my mind changing on this as I think it is more than clear the intentions of that poster. I also appreciate your trying to diffuse the situation, but there really isn't a situation to diffuse. I was offended at being rude to when a simple question was asked, but it is over now and I just hope to be spoken to a bit better in the future :) That is pretty much all I have to say about it :)

Anyway, I never intended on having that person do the spell for me :lol: I just ran across the link from ebay so I thought I would ask about it out of curiosity :lol: I know those types of people are usually scammers :lol: Especially because it says it does lottery spells :lol: Yeah right, if lottery spells work, there would be more rich people in the world, lol.

Thanks to everyone for your help. Thanks the excellent newbie buster post, as well as some of the responses here, I am now fully informed :)

mol
October 5th, 2006, 01:06 PM
OK, that's it, again and again the questions I had in the beginning...

Do love potions work? where can I get them?? Can money spells get me money if I have a good reason? does it help to have a profesional do it? Are there any spells to make my eyes red or make my girlfriends boobies and my dick bigger?

It's time for a premptive thread.
MOL MODE

Let's leave explicit talk on anatomy at the door, please....or at Mwad. Thanks! =]

Rudas Starblaze
October 5th, 2006, 01:08 PM
i didnt take the time to read through every post but...


it depends on the reason for the money. to get rich, wont work. to bail you out when times are rough, yes, they can work. have i ever done a money spell for myself? no. has my wife? yes and it has worked every time. why havent i done a money spell for myself? cause i would be just as happy living in a box as i would in a house.

Garnet
October 5th, 2006, 01:44 PM
Yes.......sort of. I've had some success with them, but I didn't win the lottery or have Ed MacMahon show up with a check from Publisher's Clearing House.

Once, I was in a tight spot financially & cast a spell for money. A few days later I got a letter from the bank (that I know longer banked at) to remind me of an account I'd forgotten I had. It was just enough to solve my problems.

One time, after a money spell, I developed an urge to clean out my coat closet (which is weird in itself because if you look up the word 'slob' in the dictionary, you'll find my picture). I cleaned out coat & jacket pockets & found enough to feed me until payday.

A few times I got an opportunity to do some overtime at work.

Sometimes spells don't work at all. It's a cosmic crap shoot, IMO.

Amelserru_halqu
October 5th, 2006, 04:34 PM
They can work, however, if you want a better paying job try networking with higher ups (not sucking up, interacting with confidence, give ideas and suggestions, meet them, make contacts, for gods sake get connected). Of course this is far more imporant if you want to get into a particular industry (pharmaceuticals for me) but it never hurts to have people in high places who know what you can do.

Of course you can always try the spell... of course it just might work in ways you don't intend, i.e. accidents.

soul_searcher
October 5th, 2006, 11:02 PM
i would be just as happy living in a box as i would in a house.


I know what you are saying there :) I am not materialistic at all. I have actually lived on the streets before and as long as I can access somewhere to clean up, I am fine :lol:

PART of my original reason for posting was actually because I thought if it could help in anyway, so I could build my mom a new house, it would be great. The house is in really bad shape and a major health problem for her as she already has heart problems (and had a heart attack last summer), and her heart has a condition of beating too fast (don't know the technical mumbo jumbo :lol:). She also has asthma, and severe back problems, due to nerve root compression between her spinal discs. Anyway, the house is in such bad shape it is making the problems worse. It has no real heat or air and if she gets too hot, her heart starts beating too fast and could actually lead to a heart attack. The house also makes her asthma worse and there isn't good access for her with her back problems (she may have to have neurosurgery on it soon too so that will make it even worse).

Hubby and I have saved up quite a bit of money so far but it still isn't enough and I am starting to think it will never be enough before something bad happens to my mom :(

Now, the biggest reason I posted this question is mostly because I was just curious about it after reading it on a website :lol: I don't practice magic (yet) so I had no intention of doing it yet, but considered it for the future if things don't look up soon and assuming I do learn how to practice magic.

Thanks to everyone else who replied as well. I appreciate reading all your stories with your experiences with magic. I am very interested in it (obvioulsy) so to read stories about things that have happened with magic is great!

Les_Nubian
October 7th, 2006, 08:52 PM
If you help yourself, the spell will help you. So Sarcastic Tanya is wrong in that matter, unfortunately.

If you work, AND perform a money spell, things just might work out for you. Who knows.

But I know that even when I was out of work at a time once years ago, I did a money spell and the very next week a friend who OWED me money when I HAD a job finally sent me a check in the mail. Granted he owed me the money, but still. I'd say it worked. :P

Faelon_Moon_Hawk
October 8th, 2006, 07:52 PM
Sure they do...they just might not work in the manner or timing that you might wish they had worked in....but i think that same thing goes for any spell.

Regulus
October 9th, 2006, 11:50 AM
resume's work better, and getting a job.

Vigdisdotter
October 9th, 2006, 12:10 PM
In a word: yes.

Provided you know what you're dong. And of course the spell isn't the ONLY thing you do. All spells need to be supported by mundane action.

Vigdisdotter
October 9th, 2006, 12:12 PM
Sorry it wasn't what you wanted to hear but working DOES work better than sitting around wishing.

We're talking about spells here, not wishful thinking. Clearly you don't understand the difference.

Against The Tide
October 9th, 2006, 12:31 PM
I think they can work if you follow up the spell with actual non-magical action. But it might not always happen the way you wish it, someone might die and you recieve inheritance or maybe you car gets totalled but insurance will give you a payout. The old saying 'Becareful what you wish for' applies here, is there any other way you could tackle the problem?

Money, of course is the simple straight forward way to solve alot of issues. But if your mum's house is in a bad way maybe you could try something other than a money spell (magical and non-magical) to stir up community spirit and have your neighbours patch up the house?

starrykitten
October 9th, 2006, 01:10 PM
I made the mistake of doing one once during a waning moon. That night, I went to an event downtown and my keys vanished into thin air. They were suddenly gone and nowhere to be found, and I had to pay a locksmith much money. Oops.

Also, I once did a spell for money to "come to me." My work inexplicably mailed me my paycheck instead of letting me pick it up. Now I try to throw in the word "unexpected." :)

The one I've had the best luck with is the Pouring Spell for Money in Luisah Teish (sp?)'s book Jambalaya.

BlueEyedWolf
October 9th, 2006, 02:14 PM
Sure they do...they just might not work in the manner or timing that you might wish they had worked in....but i think that same thing goes for any spell.

My sentiments exactly! They do work but, the Gods have a funny way of giving you what you ask for8O ! I know they get a giggle out of it.:stooges:

soul_searcher
October 9th, 2006, 02:33 PM
resume's work better, and getting a job.

As I said to someone else, please if you are not able to be civil and kind - leaving the sarcasm and rudeness at the door, please do not reply to my posts. I would appreciate it!

soul_searcher
October 9th, 2006, 02:34 PM
Thank you to everyone who answered my question with a sincere desire to inform me without only trying to be rude and horrible :) I do appreciate it. It is one more thing I have learned :)

Fiamma
October 10th, 2006, 10:58 AM
Hello. I was just wondering if money spells work? If I ever learn to do spells, etc. I am hoping I can do one so that I could build my mom a house - her house is in really had shape and literally falling in :( As long as I had enough money for that, I would be happy :)


no more or less than any other spell.


a spell is a means of focusing yourself on a particular goal. You still have to do the work, but if you have put some extra effort into establishing the focus, it may make the work easier, or make it at least seem easier because you're more focused....but in the end you still have to do the same work to obtain money, be that work a job, investing money that you already have....whatever.

you may get lucky and win the lottery, but I would stronly advise against holding your breath, and that certainly wouldn't be the result of anyhitng to do with the spell.

(others may have already expressed this sentiment, but i'm at work and not able to read through all of the other posts)

Fiamma
October 10th, 2006, 12:02 PM
As I said to someone else, please if you are not able to be civil and kind - leaving the sarcasm and rudeness at the door, please do not reply to my posts. I would appreciate it!


I don't think this person is being rude and sarcastic, nor was the first one. some people don't believe in spells, and don't believe that they work, period. I think they were just being honest.

Now if they had said "go get a job, you pathetic loser", that would be a little different.

Fiamma
October 10th, 2006, 12:02 PM
As I said to someone else, please if you are not able to be civil and kind - leaving the sarcasm and rudeness at the door, please do not reply to my posts. I would appreciate it!


I don't think this person is being rude and sarcastic, nor was the first one. some people don't believe in spells, and don't believe that they work, period. I think they were just being honest.

Now if they had said "go get a job, you pathetic loser", that would be a little different.

Fiamma
October 10th, 2006, 12:03 PM
I don't think this person is being rude and sarcastic, nor was the first one. some people don't believe in spells, and don't believe that they work, period. I think they were just being honest.

Now if they had said "go get a job, you pathetic loser", that would be a little different.


(sorry about the double posts...completely unintentional)

Upside Daisy Down
October 15th, 2006, 08:41 PM
I don't think this person is being rude and sarcastic, nor was the first one. some people don't believe in spells, and don't believe that they work, period. I think they were just being honest.

Now if they had said "go get a job, you pathetic loser", that would be a little different.



Well, for the record...I'm a newbie, too, and I got the distinct impression that both of the "get a job" responses were rude and sarcastic and uncalled for.

Perhaps if people took a second to consider the fact that some of us are new around here and not quite as familiar with everyone's tone, etc...it would go a long way towards making this place a more welcoming.

Of course, I get the distinct impression that there are a number of members here who aren't interested in welcoming new members...but that's just my first impression, you know, as a newbie.

Harmony Aurore
October 15th, 2006, 11:56 PM
It's hard to take you seriously when you're getting all bent out of shape over an opposing view. Personally, I don't think Tanya was being rude, she was being direct and slightly abrupt.

And I do in someways agree with her. The best thing you can do is use all of your energy towards making money yourself. However, spell casting is a great incentive or motivator.

I find that when one has the belief that spell casting helps align a couple stars but you have to do the grunt work, the person is more willing to use the elbow grease. They have a goal in sight and they're more willing to work for them. But the key is to work.

And although you may believe spellwork makes opportunities for you (such as a job oppertunity, or meeting the right person at the right time to give the right resume), the key is to make those opportunities for yourself.
Network, Go out of your way to job fairs. Chat up customers and acquaintances to find new opportunities.
Really, that's the best kind of magic. It's the type that you make for yourself. After all, magic is in the end, energy direction and manipulation. What better way than to put 100% of your energy in to job/opportunity finding?
If I were to do a spell to fit your situation, I would do something to help me open my eyes to new money making opportunities. To be able to recognize money making potential.

But definately be proactive and be agressive about finding ways for yourself. I think that's what Tanya meant to say... and I definately agree with that

JyuMuse
October 16th, 2006, 12:10 AM
I think it depends on how you direct the money spell. Just asking for money to come to you is asking for A LOT and thus I think very very rarely works. I think it's better to focus your energy on doing a spell to help draw ways of getting money to you - such as finding a 40hr a week job or just picking up some babysitting or lawn mowing tasks for a few extra dollars or perhaps helping you sell some unwanted items or crafted items.

Upside Daisy Down
October 16th, 2006, 12:58 AM
It's hard to take you seriously when you're getting all bent out of shape over an opposing view. Personally, I don't think Tanya was being rude, she was being direct and slightly abrupt.



She didn't get bent out of shape...she just said that there was no need for anyone to be rude and if they couldn't speak respectfully, then they shouldn't bother to respond to her threads.

Like I said previously...such "abruptness" doesn't really foster the kind of atmosphere that seems inviting to new members...

But, I get the impression that there aren't a lot of people who care about that here.

LordHelmet
October 16th, 2006, 02:36 AM
let's just drop it. Maybe she intended it as rude, maybe it was an accident, maybe she just didn't really feel like explaining it all and just left a really short and abrupt post. Maybe she was on her period or just had a moment of rudeness ... whatever, it's old.

I've been on MW for over a year now and I've not found any bad attitude towards newbies or new members among the vast majority of MW members. Furthermore the older the members the more they welcome the new members. The older, the more they encourage and support the younger ones.

MW is also a place where we dig deep in a lot of contraversial subjects. As a result some people feel attacked at first. In fact I've seen tons of people reviel to attacks on MW, when no one intended to attack them, rarely is anyone attacked intentionaly, very rarely. It's not a matter of mayrters either, it's just that it's easy to take offense on a forum like this.

My advice to new members is remember that people will say things you don't like, and things you don't agree with. Don't be to quick to take it personaly, give them a benifete of a doubt, and assume they mean no harm. However don't hesitate to call them out on it or disagree, being careful not to be rude yourself. That's what we do here, we respectfuly speak our minds.

soul_searcher
October 16th, 2006, 07:17 AM
She didn't get bent out of shape...she just said that there was no need for anyone to be rude and if they couldn't speak respectfully, then they shouldn't bother to respond to her threads.

Like I said previously...such "abruptness" doesn't really foster the kind of atmosphere that seems inviting to new members...

But, I get the impression that there aren't a lot of people who care about that here.

Thanks UpsideDaisyDown (cute username by the way :lol: ) I really couldn't have said it better myself. I suppose asking to be spoken to respectfully is a bit much for some people (this is true for life in general). It is nice to know that I wasn't the only one who took it that way.

LordHelmet, I too just want the subject to be dropped - I have tried many times by thanking everyone who responded and saying I got the answer now :lol: If there were a close this topic button someone could use when an answer is understood, I would have used it just to stop others from wasting their time answering something that is now understood if that makes sense at all.

I must say that I do have to do disagree with you on something though. Although I haven't been here long I have seen (well read) people being rude to others - and I don't mean just being abrupt, etc. I mean down-right rude, and you can sometimes tell if they meant it or if it just came across in a bad way. However, it is no different than everyday life - so I don't know why we (meaning people) expect more on forums :lol: but we usually do anyway. I also think it goes far beyond being new or something though but that is another story.

So, once again - thank you so much to everyone for your stories and answers! I really do appreciate it, but it now time to unsubscribe from this thread before it turns into more of a she meant this, no she meant that ind of thread and leaving a lot of ill feelings :p

Take care everyone!

Regulus
October 17th, 2006, 10:21 AM
As I said to someone else, please if you are not able to be civil and kind - leaving the sarcasm and rudeness at the door, please do not reply to my posts. I would appreciate it!

ok, Not trying to be mean though. I always find that I prefer to exhaust my resources in the mundane world before I try for the divines attention. Thats all

Vigdisdotter
October 17th, 2006, 01:16 PM
I always find that I prefer to exhaust my resources in the mundane world before I try for the divines attention.

Are your spells then always an appeal to Divinity?

Regulus
October 18th, 2006, 04:24 PM
Not in the sense that I'm asking them to give me what I want but in the sense that I am asking for them to help me summon the strength, or patience, or courage to get what it is that I want. I've been a pagan for 8 years now and I think I've cast less than 10 spells in that time. I'm just not much for spells.

Malcolm
October 18th, 2006, 04:30 PM
I'm sure its been said before but if they did...There would be NO broke pagans anywhere.

Vigdisdotter
October 18th, 2006, 09:04 PM
Not in the sense that I'm asking them to give me what I want but in the sense that I am asking for them to help me summon the strength, or patience, or courage to get what it is that I want.

Do you think that there are any other sources for such things? Or do you feel that the spell won't work unless it appeals to Divinity?

LordHelmet
October 19th, 2006, 03:13 AM
divinity helps make many spells far more effective, but they still work with or without. Personaly I haven't used any magick for money and I'm broke :0 hmm ...

Not all pagans use magick for various reasons. As for those that do many don't use it effectivly to begin with. There also can be reasons for poverty other then just circumstance.

soul_searcher
October 19th, 2006, 07:08 PM
Not in the sense that I'm asking them to give me what I want but in the sense that I am asking for them to help me summon the strength, or patience, or courage to get what it is that I want. I've been a pagan for 8 years now and I think I've cast less than 10 spells in that time. I'm just not much for spells.

I think that is the best way to go about doing things. Sometimes the reason things do not happen for us is because we lack the motivation, strength, courage, patience, etc. to continue on trying. Other times, I think maybe it just isn't meant to be because no matter how hard we try, it just won't happen - in that case I figure you have to accept it and move on although it can be hard. I am dealing with this at the moment, trying to accept something that never will be (a pregnancy) and just move on. I know it would be great to have that extra pick-me-up when it becomes to much to bear and I think that is where a spell could come in useful.

However, I don't really know much of anything so I am probably just talking crap :lol: :p

Regulus
October 20th, 2006, 12:14 AM
I think that is the best way to go about doing things. Sometimes the reason things do not happen for us is because we lack the motivation, strength, courage, patience, etc. to continue on trying. Other times, I think maybe it just isn't meant to be because no matter how hard we try, it just won't happen - in that case I figure you have to accept it and move on although it can be hard. I am dealing with this at the moment, trying to accept something that never will be (a pregnancy) and just move on. I know it would be great to have that extra pick-me-up when it becomes to much to bear and I think that is where a spell could come in useful.

However, I don't really know much of anything so I am probably just talking crap :lol: :p

Not at all. That was very well articulated.

Vigdisdotter
October 20th, 2006, 02:11 AM
There also can be reasons for poverty other then just circumstance.

I think circumstance is the ONLY reason. People just forget that their circumstance encompasses a lot more then simply lacking a job or skill set. it also includes one's frame of mind and the situations we've set ourselves up for.

I have a friend who has been out of work for two YEARS and she was whining to me about needing money.

Why is she out of work? "because I cant' find full time work, part time isn't enough." "Because I can't find any that needs my skills (secretary)." "because I can't......" You see where this is going, yes?

People can and do impression themselves if very negative cycles, but then are unable to see their own hand in it.

Siqoni
October 20th, 2006, 09:08 AM
My belief in money spells is that you have to be really careful when you cast them. My wiccan friend cast one, and wasn't very carefull. Oh, she got the money, but her grandfather died and she inherited some money. =^D So... be carefull?

soul_searcher
October 20th, 2006, 03:18 PM
I think circumstance is the ONLY reason. People just forget that their circumstance encompasses a lot more then simply lacking a job or skill set. it also includes one's frame of mind and the situations we've set ourselves up for.

I have a friend who has been out of work for two YEARS and she was whining to me about needing money.

Why is she out of work? "because I cant' find full time work, part time isn't enough." "Because I can't find any that needs my skills (secretary)." "because I can't......" You see where this is going, yes?

People can and do impression themselves if very negative cycles, but then are unable to see their own hand in it.


I know what you are saying about throwing oneself into negative cycles, etc. It is like they say "mind over matter" or whatever. While I agree that it is useful to have a positive state of mind and attitude, I also believe that there can be other reasons for poverty instead of just circumstance, but that is just me :)

From what you say, it sounds like your friend just can't be bothered to put in a lot of effort or maybe she is just very picky. I don't know as I don't know her or her situation, but just from what you described that is how it seems. I figure if someone needs the money that bad (as she must after being out of work for 2 years), you would take whatever job you could even if it was "below" you - this could at least provide some income while you were looking for a job that did meet your skills, etc.

I know this first hand as I used to work 2 full time jobs (80 hours a week). They were low paying jobs so I had to have two (I worked at a hotel from 12am-8am and went next door and worked at a gas station from 8am-4pm (well usually like 8:05-4:05 :p) I started working at 14 (full-time) while going to school full-time and even in college i did the same. It wasn't until I moved to London with my hubby that I got a much needed break and now I am focusing on my health.

Despite all my hard work, I was still always in need of money, clothes, etc. So you see, someone can put in the effort and energy but still be in poverty. It isn't always as simple as oh you go to work, earn money, and then boom, no more money problems :)

lamoka
October 20th, 2006, 05:03 PM
Merry meet..
Just popped in 'cause the question piqued my interest..
Took the first response as rude and uncalled for as well...
Although one may not "hear" a tone, one is implied by the words used and the brevity of words themselves...
Had the poster put a smiley face at the end of the "no" it may have lightened the response..
had they asked about the others type of work and scale of pay in hopes of ascertaining or advising in job advancement rather than implying "go to work" "get a job" maybe then the tone would have been different...
what the original poster wants to do with the money is more than honorable and loving and I for one send energy to them in their quest.. I pray that God and Goddess bless them in their need.. and the many others out there...
blessed be
Lady of the Lake Lamoka

Suzette
October 20th, 2006, 05:08 PM
There's a tremendous difference between *want* and *need* both in need of thorough examination prior to spellwork to determine the balance.

The power of the mind along with spells work, but be careful what you wish for because you may not get what you want, rather what you deserve or not - and have it backfire in your face.

In addition, spells work better for those who have the wisdom to read the fine print...

I'm also speaking of all spellwork, not just for money.