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Pakkaram
October 11th, 2006, 05:29 PM
We do not follow old Estonian religions or any other religions. We do not study system of witchcraft from religions or other schools of witchcraft.
Because old teachings are aged to manage with them today or even grafted through of misleading and enslaving information, then the knowledge about existence had to be brought by ourselves, without relying on any other known teaching.
We bring the knowledge about witchcraft through ourselves from our higher mental bodies. We bring the knowledge and we test does it works in nature where we live. We experience, we practice, we use it in our personal life and then we use it combined with other already tested and attained skills (The 4-system).
This could be misleading, but You can call it Tokroda, because I haven’t think up any better name to name it and our leader, witch Tokroda, calls it just Estonian Paganism. Why this could be misleading is the point that we do not teach personality cult. We teach teamwork and explain why people are divine. With using planet’s systems of nature You can change the world. Existence is made so that one man alone can not change the world. The world works so for the evolution and safety. If a man and a woman (what belongs to the 2-system of nature) want to create something, for example, to give a birth for a child, they have to do it together. That’s the way the world works and so it is with other things in the world too. To create a witchcraft system you need many witches with different parameters because perfect system can be created by combining many different parts what create one perfect system.
For example, to shift the energy columns we needed to use the 20-system of nature. We gathered 20 witches and brought the energy columns into Estonia. These energy columns were shifted away from Estonia in history.
http://www.mentalworld.eu/sambad.jpg
The map of the Estonian energy columns
We pray for nobody. We study from higher, from existence and teach lower ones. This existence, these trees and bushes, this air what we breath and this soil what grows food for us, they need no-one’s prayers, no-one’s slavery. Prayers and praising and slavery are needed by those who doesn’t have the power itself. Religions have the power only then when humankind itself gives them their power away.
We want to make humankind wise, so it would be too hard to enslave humankind.

Pakkaram
October 11th, 2006, 05:32 PM
(Translated from Tokroda’s texts)
There are the 4 levels of a circle of the person’s evolution spiral. Therefore, most of beings in a physical human body can be classified into the first 4 groups or into the second 4 groups. If one level is completed, then this being starts to evolve in the next level and abilities what were evolved in the previous level remain. If You die as a warm-blooded, then you born as a warm-blooded in the next life and continue this process of the evolution. No levels of the evolution can be skipped. Retrogression in possible.

1 level is the evolution as a primitive.
A primitive studies basic knowledge: principles about life. A primitive can not be responsible of himself/herself. Because of this, a primitive must study to obey. A primitive subconsciously search for a master. If a primitive finds a good master who takes care of him/her and is loyal for his/her master, then primitive’s life is good. A primitive feeds from goods. A primitive is able to be a studious subordinate or underling.

2 level is the evolution as a cold-blooded.
A cold-blooded studies to be accountable of himself/herself, to protect himself/herself and to be in the right position in life. A cold-blooded hasn’t got an outer soul. Thanks to this a cold-blooded can not sense a disorder of surrounding. Therefore, he/she doesn’t care about other people and nature. A cold-blooded doesn’t feel other being’s pain and joy. A typical cold-blooded could make homeless housful people if it helps him/her to get rich. If a cold-blooded gets over from his/her power hunger and is evolved enough, then he/she becomes a warm-blooded. A cold-blooded feeds from power. A cold-blooded is able to be a fine apprentice.

3 level is the evolution as a warm-blooded.
A warm-blooded has got an outer soul. A warm-blooded studies to take care of his/her property. We can recognize a warm-blooded by an inner need to change his/her surrounding pleasant. A warm-blooded has got need to care for others. If a warm-blooded has developed his/her soul to a perfection, then he/she becomes an elf. A warm-blooded feeds from love. A warm-blooded is able to be a great worker.

4 level is the evolution as an elf.
An elf studies to be a leader of a group and to be accountable for group members. (For example, a teacher.) The elves can be scientists who observe existence and make conclusions. Much higher beings than the elves, the enlightners, bring the knowledge about the existence to mankind. The elves can develop it onwards and put it into practise, use it in life. For example, an enlightener invents an electricity. After that, an elf invents an electric lighting. An enlightener invents a gunpowder, an elf invents a cannon and an more effective gunpowder. An elf can deal with inorganic beings too and bring them to the warm-bloodeds. An elf feeds from knowledge/light. An elf is able to be a great leader and a problem solver.

After the four first levels, become god-classes. In our universe there is no physical body what could hold a god entirely. The planet Earth is primarily meant for the evolution of the warm-bloodeds, so a physical human body is made mostly for use for the warm-bloodeds. The warm-bloodeds need the elves who would teach and lead them. They need gods too. Therefore, a physical human body can hold an elf’s energetical body too, but gods are halfly in a physical human body, halfly out from a physical human body. A physical human body holds only these parts of a god what a person had when he/she completed the evolution as an elf. In a god’s physical human body are only a primitive’s, a cold-blooded’s, a warm-blooded’s and an elf’s energetical bodies. Higher god’s parts/bodies what give to a god an angel’s, a half-god’s, a system master’s and an enlightener’s abilities, exist as a field.

5 level is the evolution as an angel.
Angels do not belong to any religion. Nor Christians’ god nor gods of other religions own any beings except for beings who have sold themselves for them. Christians just want to enslave among other persons, angels too. Angels are not without male and they do not own many other characteristics what Christians tell. They are male or female just like humans, with all the differences what male and female beings have towards each other.
An angel has gone through the receiving and rendering evolution. An angel can already mediate specific energy infinitely, (according to his/her parameter), from a planet and doesn’t need to take it from others. An angel also brings divine energy from higher beings to lower beings. If an angel is in a group, other people can feel it. Need for transformation of divine energy to acceptable for humans is one reason why an angel has to born into a physical human body. Just like an enlightener has to born into a physical human body to translate the knowledge about the existence into human language and teach people in appropriate way, so people could understand. An angel is able to be a great philosopher and a subscriber of the world.

6 level is the evolution as a half-god.
A half-god can perceive many realities at once. A half-god can know what his/her energetical bodies are doing in the subtle material/the mental level at the same time he/she is awake here, in the rough material/the physical level. Half-gods can be great seers and healers. Important is to notice has a seer or a healer got his/her own abilities - is he/she really a half-god or is he/she a slave of the religion system what gives him/her these abilities what are abducted from enslaved half-gods. A half-god is able to be a great subscriber of a person.

7 level is the evolution as a system master.
A system master creates systems. He/she combine many different parts what creates one perfect system. System masters establish morale for mankind. In the subtle material/the mental level a system master keeps in order this planet’s part what makes a person subconsciously to know what deeds are right and what deeds are wrong. System master is accountable for planet’s nature and thanks to this system masters can command planet’s forces of nature of the physical level like temperature and wind, rain, lava and others. System masters can be great witches, shamans, druids. A system master is able to create something new for mankind. (For example, a culture.)

8 level is the evolution as an enlightener.
An enlightener translates the knowledge about existence into human language. An enlightener can know without studying. For example, scientists who bring new knowledge what were impossible to be studied from surrounding environment in this physical level. (For example, the 4th dimensional space and the tesseract model.) These scientists usually just know how things are. They know that some info is the truth and they prove it later. In the physical level an enlightener speaks to mankind about planet’s operation mechanisms. In the subtle material/the mental level enlightener keeps in order this part of the planet what forms a person’s mental side. An enlightener is accountable for mankind. An enlightener can be a great king - able to be a great servant of a planet or higher beings.

The lowest of them all eight are the bug people, the reptiloids and the pyramid people. There are the bogeys too, but they do not born into physical human bodies.

The bug people are degenerated primitives who have sold themselves to the outer invader so deeply that their cores/essences have gone into Devourer’s possession. Without their cores/essences they are loyal zombies who are used for conquering us. They are treated enough to make them loyal zombies, but not so much that they could not born into a physical human body.

The reptiloids are the cold-bloodeds who have the same history at the same topic.

The pyramid people are the elves who have the same history at the same topic.

The bug people are degenerated primitives who have sold themselves to the outer invader so deeply that their cores/essences have gone into Varmint’s possession.
They do not born into physical human bodies in the reality of this place. They are used differently.

Pakkaram
October 11th, 2006, 05:44 PM
(Translated from Tokroda’s texts)
What kind of a person an oscillation chooses to perform the enlightener?
a) This person must distribute knowledge to everyone (sun shines equally to all).
Of course a person clashes with ordeal here: He must teach his enemy. Actually it is so that knowledge is given to all. Who has got the level to understand he/she understands. A person is not able to use the knowledge what is above his level. With giving knowledge, an enemy could turn into a friend.
b) A person must not distort knowledge. Ordeal/test: To tell the truth what seems unfavourable, or to lie, what brings seeming advantage. With lying a person blocks his channel of light and power forsakes this kind of person. He is useless, doesn’t transmit knowledge.
c) A person must try out himself these knowledge, experience. This is necessary for this that a person’s channel of light (the part of persons connector) would purify.

For taking notice for people: When to attack this person who wears this oscillation of power, then this power displeases and makes this attacker stupid.
Yes, power chooses the best one who matches these qualifications. This person gets automatically knowledge and knowledge doesn’t end. This oscillation can be win over only by two ways: A) an owner of the oscillation himself disclaims, B) the one who wants to win over evolves himself better.

Pakkaram
October 11th, 2006, 05:45 PM
(Translated from Tokroda’s texts)
To rule over other people we must be able to make changes in different realities what influence mankind. To be able to make changes there we must have force. But where can You get power ? Power comes from Earth’s core. There are 8 types of active-point power. The highest of them is the power of king. To get the power from energy column of kings You have to go through the gate of kings. Of course the gate of kings is behind the other 7 lower gates. You must first get through these 7 to reach the gate of kings.
The gate of kings tests You are You worth of this force. To find the gate of kings You must fulfil these conditions:

a) To be absent of greed. You create surroundings for mankind’s welfare. You do not think about will You be paid or praised or respected or etc. for this. A person just creates welfare. In actual life people work and create to get something. Of course the force wants attestation. Tokroda found this gate thanks to the forum. How ? He saw these unhappy suffering people. Then he had wish to help them. Firstly, he examined what was the cause for the trouble. He found that this was lack of knowledge about the mental world. He decide to help people. Made the Estonian pagan forum. The aim was to distribute light, so people could become free. During this work he found the gate of kings. As long as You haven’t started to create something without greed, the gate of the king doesn’t show itself for You. Of course a king who has found the kingly power must not give it away. Otherwise happens this what happened in young Soviet Union. In Russia there was one king who was so greedless that gave his kingly power to Stalin.

b) Has got responsibility. A person who wants to flee from the problem what he has created hasn’t got even hope to find this gate. Therefore, self-denier is not able to see the gate of kings. A king just solves problems. He never accuses others for his own problems.

c) Is tolerant toward other kings. How does it is expressed? For example, in the company there are two kings. One is old hand in the mental world, other in the physical world. King of the physical levels is boss then when there is need to arrange physical matters. When there is need to arrange mental matters, then physical levels king gives a way for king of the mental level and obeys his orders as a rank-and-file member. Therefore, a king is able to be big and small too. The test of tolerance is carried our by the gate of kings.
What else does this force give to us? With this force we can hold divine oscillations. A person who hasn’t got kingly force, he/she can take into his/her possession some kind of divine oscillation, but he/she is never able to hold it for a long time. We know that some persons hunt these divine oscillations and get them too. But when they do not have kingly force, then they have to rob energy from people to possess divine oscillations. This exhausts people. But when a candidate for divine oscillation appears, who owns kingly force, then from him/her no people can take this divine oscillation away. They are not able for this even then, if they would rip off every other people’s energy.
King rules his people with his force. A king feeds his people with energy. A false king sucks, like Jesus from his people. He needs prayers (energy-donors).
We can see a worthiness of a king from his people.

Pakkaram
October 11th, 2006, 05:47 PM
(Translated from Tokroda’s texts)
Oscillations as gates are doors to planet’s places. A gate gives possibility to get some specific resource or energy or power or knowledge or force or etc. Gate guards/protects this pass. For example, to get into a planet’s place from where You can get some resource or energy or power or knowledge or force or etc., You have to enter a gate. A gate tests are You the right person enough to get this what You want. If You pass a test, then a gate gives what it should give. If You don’t pass a test, then a gate makes you empty, drags something (energy or force or etc.) out from You.
Let’s take the gate of kings for example.
The gate tests them who want to get the kingly force and those who pass the test, can use the force of this gate.

Pakkaram
October 11th, 2006, 05:48 PM
(Translated from Tokroda’s texts)
Energy pillars are energy flow approximately with width of 50 meter diameter and height of many kilometres. It is best to view energy pillar with fog. Fog starts to gather into area of an energy pillar.
An energy pillar is energy flow, just like a person is. It is possible to identify yourself with energy pillar and thanks to this a person can even move energy pillars to other position on a planet.

What are these things more exactly? These are channels between realities. For example, they chance conception of the world to thoughts, thoughts to emotions, etc.
How do pillars cure? If a person’s own connector is stuck, then a person can use a pillar’s flow under a pillar. Let’s bring examples. A person misses new thoughts. He/she can’t get them from the fourth level, to create them from his/her conception of the world, because a channel between 3 and 4 aura body is closed. An energy pillar takes one fragment from a person’s conception of the world and takes it to the level of thoughts. Now, a person gets new thoughts being under a pillar.
With pillars can be ruled too. How? For example, a person can take his/her conception of the world to the collective field what others can perceive as revelations of the god. People thoughts can be corrected similarly too. Can grow created programs/models of operating. Because a pillar is a channel, then different people can see it differently according to their singularity.
Pillars can be tuned too. We tuned pillars of the 20-system to the Estonian native egregor. Enemies want that pillars would be connected with the Christian egregor. What does tuning give? New comes through this. For example, our pillars, about what journalism speaks, are pillars of the 20-system. This means that these are abilities. If a pillar is tuned to the native egregor, then people who serve Estonian people get new abilities.
For example, one of these 20 pillars is the pillar of power of the 20-system.

Energy pillars are oscillations for use for numbers. People can use them for self-development.

Pakkaram
October 11th, 2006, 05:49 PM
(Translated from Tokroda’s texts)
Divine oscillations are parts of the planet’s energetics with what surrounding can be built and changed. Each oscillation has got it’s certain vibration and certain domain of influence. Through an oscillation flows power what influences all of people. A person who is the best to influence and build a certain domain can seize an oscillation.
Let’s take the oscillation of enlightener for example.
To seize the oscillation of enlightener you have to be the best among enlighteners. You have to be the best on bringing knowledge to mankind. Then oscillation chooses you.

Power of an oscillation flows through a person who wears it and changes surroundings according to this person. There are different type of oscillations for male wearers and for female wearers.
A man gives content – a male-aspect for a female oscillation to build and change surroundings with it. A woman gives energy/material/shape – a female-aspect for a male oscillation to build and change surroundings with it.

Energy pillars do stand on one spot in nature, but a divine oscillation moves with a wearer’s physical body and a pod.
Divine oscillations are oscillations for use for gods. A divine oscillation is in only one person’s hands. With these, missions are realized.

Pakkaram2
November 22nd, 2006, 02:34 AM
(Written on the basis of Tokroda’s theories)
There were 16 of them initially. Who are they? They are actually Snow Queen’s 16 light aspects’ programs, made of her enlightener’s body (the body of the 8th level of the person’s evolution). This main body consists of the 16 under-bodies (lights).
An enlightener consists of the 16 lights. Each light leads one planet’s system. These systems are: 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 12, 16, 20, 7, 10, 32, 48, 8, 96, 18, 72. A normal enlightener’s these 16 aspects are situated in his/her inner realm. He/she brings out only one, this what he/she evolves. This is the changeable 17-system. It mirrors one of the 16 systems. The rest of the lights are in an enlightener’s inner realm. But, Snow Queen has turned herself wrong side out. She has brought all her lights out from her inner realm to the outer realm. Consequently, her enlightener’s body exists in 16 places at once.
Each planet has got 16 systems what can be destroyed. There are many planets where she needs to operate with her super phantoms, but she has got only 16 super phantoms what consist of one her light aspect. We call these super phantom programs. So, she creates copies of her super phantom programs. These copies do not consist her some part/light aspect. She sends these copies into planets where some part of her already operates. She finds people who take in her programs and change into her phantoms. For these phantom programs she uses these people instead of herself enlightener’s body’s parts. We call these phantom programs. Of course, preferred are other enlighteners, but there are not enough of them. System masters do well too. She puts her phantoms mainly into them. She can put 8 of her phantoms into men and 8 into women. According to the polarity of the system. She puts her phantom into a human-god through a human-god’s defective points (actually a god himself/herself lets her in). Now when a phantom’s program has got in, a phantom takes control. A phantom feeds from this god’s core/essence and fulfils own plans. A normal enlightener’s lights feed from his/her core.
There is one Snow Queen’s program what consists one part of her – Devourer. It acts on higher level than Snow Queen’s super phantom programs and phantom programs and it uses them to destroy planets. Largely thanks to this that it can use 16 god’s strength it has been unbeaten so far. It has conquered a planet after a planet. And its strategy is simple.

A) Firstly, four first phantom programs invade. The phantom program of the 10 system kills existing rulers.
Example: local rulers are tramped down in Estonia. Both, earthly and mental rulers. Let’s take pagans for example. Continuously there is tried to kill them. A decent head of a household is being tramped down in Estonian family. It is realized by a saleable male god.
Next, Snow Queen’s phantom program’s servant is lifted into ruling position. This is done by a purchasable female god. 7-system. Talks about love.
Example from Estonia: foreigners are favoured in Estonia. ****** is praised in the religion world. A neighbor is praised in a family.
These gods’ parameter is an amazon.
A traitor-god (a man) of the 12-system destroys working programs (operating models) - healthy/intact thinking/common sense.
A traitor-god (a woman) of the 5-system stuffs into people these programs what are necessary for one Snow Queen’s program – Devourer.
These gods’ parameter is a chirper.

B) When local rulers are killed and replaced with Snow Queen’s phantom programs’ servants, then they will go to the next stage. This is taking wealth and resources from people.
A traitor-male god of the 16-system by one phantom program’s leading frames people as guilty. Gives alibi to rob from a person the wealth what he/she has created and resources what are in his/her use.
A traitor-female god of the 2-system by a phantom program’s leading takes wealth and resources into parasites possession.
Example: all the wealth is taken to ******** in the religion world, to fraudsters in the business world.
These gods’ parameter is a tender.
A traitor-male god of the 3-system makes fool of these people’s work who create wealth for other people. Makes fool of these people who care for fellow citizen.
A traitor-female god of the 6-system praises and lifts villains and people who live on other people like parasites.
Example from life: for a criminal is being felt sorry of, new chances are given that he/she would correct himself/herself. For a person who is a victim is not even wanted to pay attention and he/she is accused that it was his/her own fault. A person’s good deeds are not esteemed in a ******. Instead, ***** is praised. At the same time, *********s’ crimes are not noticed.
These gods’ parameter is a fury.

C) If wealth is robbed from people, then they go to the next phase. Changing and destroying the planet’s population.
A male god of the 20-system tortures these people who doesn’t obey invaders. Makes their life painful. May torture till death.
A female god of the 4-system changes people who surrender to tools for Devourer. To obedient zombies.
Their parameter is a reverberator.
A traitor-male god of the 72-system drags out energy from subordinated gods. Collects human energy.
A traitor-female god of the 18-system leads activity of zombies.
These gods’ parameter is a fascinater.

D) If the population is changed, then they go for a planet.
A traitor-male god of the 8-system tunes planet’s energetics to Devourer’s wave length/level.
A traitor-female god of the 96-system changes a planet’s parameter similar to Devourer’s parameter.
Their parameter is a complainer.
A traitor-male god of the 48-system makes a planet to produce this kind of energy what Devourer’s system needs.
A traitor-female god of the 32-system disconnects a planet from the universe’s energetics and connects with Devourer’s system.

About history:
By the way, Snow Queen’s phantom program of the 48-system was destroyed on our planet already long time ago. Therefore, phantom programs can not make the planet to produce needed energy for them. That’s what has concerned them.
Snow Queens’ phantom programs are all destroyed by now. Turned out to be problem to destroy these phantom programs what were inside women here. Unfortunately, a woman is not able to say no for phantom program’s temptations and fears. By now, this problem is solved too.
Warning: destroying phantom programs doesn’t make people free. With destroying them we crushed Devourer’s leading. In conjunction with this they can not enslave people by force. They doesn’t operate organized.

Pakkaram2
November 22nd, 2006, 03:02 AM
Just a tiny question (aside from all the other things I disagree with in your posts): How exactly do Reptiloids and Bug People have anything to do with what this forum is about (Baltic and Slavic Paganism)?

This info comes from Estonian Pagans, it belongs under Estonian Paganism – Tokroda. First, I wrote to one admin and asked that he/she could make me the path “Estonian Paganism – Tokroda” so I could write about our theories and discoverers here. He/she asked one moderator to make this for me. But, after some time this path was named Slavic Paganism. I wrote to this moderator who was asked to make this and explained that this is not Slavic paganism and asked him/her to create the path “Estonian Paganism – Tokroda” again and to move posts in conjunction with Estonian Paganism – Tokroda back to this path, but he/she didn’t do this. He/she did change the name to Slavic and Baltic paganism, so I still have to share the path with other teatchings. I really do not like it eather, but what can I do about it ? I am not admin nor moderator here. Well, maybe You or some admin or moderator could still help me ? Didn’t want to complain to other moderators and admins about other moderators’ activities.

Agaliha
November 22nd, 2006, 03:14 AM
This info comes from Estonian Pagans, it belongs under Estonian Paganism – Tokroda. First, I wrote to one admin and asked that he/she could make me the path “Estonian Paganism – Tokroda” so I could write about our theories and discoverers here. He/she asked one moderator to make this for me. But, after some time this path was named Slavic Paganism. I wrote to this moderator who was asked to make this and explained that this is not Slavic paganism and asked him/her to create the path “Estonian Paganism – Tokroda” again and to move posts in conjunction with Estonian Paganism – Tokroda back to this path, but he/she didn’t do this. He/she did change the name to Slavic and Baltic paganism, so I still have to share the path with other teatchings. I really do not like it eather, but what can I do about it ? I am not admin nor moderator here. Well, maybe You or some admin or moderator could still help me ? Didn’t want to complain to other moderators and admins about other moderators’ activities.

Okay. Well I suggested it be renamed and I think it was the best way to deal with this problem. It was remained Slavic and Baltic Paganism to encompase more than one path. No one is saying Estonian Paganism and Baltic paths are the same as Slavic ones, but they are related in geography and share many aspects. I'm not an Admin so I can't speak for them. You have to realize that there can't be a subforum for just your post and beliefs, I haven't read of Tokroda besides here and you're other posts elsewhere. It was renamed to allow more topics and paths to fit, it was far too narrow before and honestly I don't think anyone even noticed the forum before (when it was just your posts about this Tokroda) and there wasn't any interest (in Tokroda). With the general name of Slavic and Baltic Paganism it might get more traffic. I have no problem posting info about Slavic paganism here, why would it bother you to post about Baltic paths?

I have a feeling an Admin will be here...soon. :2G:
Perhaps you can ask about it then...I'm going to stay out of it now. I just wanted to explain why it was renamed as Kaylara and I sort of talked about it.
Also mentioned here: Estonian Paganism and Estonia does not belong under Slavic Paganism nor Slavonic. (http://www.mysticwicks.com/showthread.php?t=144101)

Pakkaram
November 23rd, 2006, 08:01 AM
As You can see, we have analyzed onwards here and found out much. Devourer has got a team. In its team there are main bosses who rule on our planet. But, Devourer and these main bosses, they are not organic (living). This Devourer and its team and these 16 phantoms, they are anorganic (lifeless). They are programs, like virus in the existence.
I got one interesting experience some days ago. I remember fighting in one enemies’ world what they have built into the subtle material level/the mental level. It was with range of planet Earth. It was built on all territories of countries. Main content of this world was the consumption culture. Huge amount of energetical bodies of planet Earth’s people lived there.
One creature went into people’s bodies there like the program in the Matrix movie. It destroyed these people, these people died and changed to this program. I fought with it over the world. I remember England too. During this fighting about one quarter of this mental realm and population was destroyed. This program had to use so many of peoples’ bodies to fight with me. But, I couldn’t win it, I am still fighting there.
It was the copy of one boss program. This experience showed me that these bosses are inorganic.

Agaliha
November 23rd, 2006, 08:03 AM
Pakkaram are you the same person as Pakkaram2?

Pakkaram
November 23rd, 2006, 08:33 AM
Pakkaram are you the same person as Pakkaram2?
Yes, but I am not using account Pakkaram2 anymore, it is not tolerated.

Pakkaram
December 5th, 2006, 09:50 PM
(Written on the base of Tokroda’s theories)
As You all have perceived, something is happening. Some kind of excitement, theft of soul parts, activation of fields, etc. What is happening then? To explain all honestly I have to start from the construction of the universe. In school, we have been thaught the big bang theory. Actually it is so that the matter flows constantly from this starting-hole. The matter is thrown into the reality of this place and the anti-reality side of the matter is thrown into the anti-reality. Now, if this matter has finished one cycle, then this matter shifts into other quantum and flowing in a new cycle begins. There are 1008 of these quantums in all. After these, the matter collapses into the big hole. Now, it moves through the zero-reality and arrives again to this hole where the big bang comes into being. These quantums divide into groups. 28 quantums in one sphere. Therefore, the 36 spheres that themselves are divided into the 6 super spheres. The exact location of our planet Earth is situated at the end of the 8th sphere, in the last quantum of it. The duration of one quantum is 65 billion years. It is this cycle where massive extinction takes place. A quantum-jump affects only living organisms. For example, the last quantum was nature what was central to the consciousness. This quantum is central to the mind. From here the reason behind the extinction of the dinosaurs. They had developed a good consciousness, but didn’t care to develop their mind. A brain reflects a mind. Now, when the jump took place, then animals whose mind wasn’t sufficient didn’t manage to switch to this other type of life energy. So they died out. The brain didn’t endure the stress. With a sphere jump the fields’ structure changes. With a super sphere jump the laws of physics change.
We have a sphere jump in the pipeline and, of course, a quantum jump at the same time too. With this quantum jump we switch to the life energy of the soul. It means that those who haven’t developed their main parts and soul parts die out. These persons are the bug-people on the planet here. They want to pass the jump too and now rob humans’ parts for compensation. Unfortunately, this person who lets them rob him/her won’t survive the jump.
Therefore, the current objective is to pull back our stolen parts. Our pagans’ objective is to teach this to people. NB we are not bound to help anyone by force. Our objective is to deal with only those who wish it themselves. The bug people have to be ignored.
By the way a human’s soul is situated in the anti-reality. Therefore, we must create a connection with our own anti-reality part. The channel is situated above the heart, inside a human, in the centre. With a sphere jump the outer world will change. Laws of physics will remain valid, but the fields will change. Actually, a new dimension will come into being in addition. We will start too see it. By the way, we already have the brain structure for seeing it, but it doesn’t work because there is no appropriate field. Now, with the switching on of the field all people start to see what the witches and the pagans see.
To this day, the witches saw because they emitted the appropriate light themselves. An analogous example is the luminous deepwater fishes. Now, the appropriate “lamp/sun” will go up.
And, what else we must know: The present sphere was 5-systematic. This means that we studied to rule our parts. We did it with our essence, consciousness, soul, connector and mind. For example: if a human’s essence was greedy, then his/her parts robbed energy, notwithstanding to this that a human showed himself/herself as kind. If a person made conscious this that something is in him/her, then he/she used this part by himself/herself. If denied, then a stranger controlled his/her part. If made appropriate work with his/her soul, then his/her part evolved too. If communicated with his/her part on the level of connector, then his/her part got stronger fixation (vitality). Through equating himself/herself with a part, played through the reality of this level. Part’s energy densified through the mind (changed to more real)
Now, we switch over to 12-system. We study to rule own surroundings (evolvement room). We speak about it more closely in brown sub-forum under 12-system in the future.
The anti-reality was 48-systematic. This is the foothold. The connection with the anti-reality was got through itself. Therefore, we had to rely on our inner strength. In the future, anti-reality changes to 7-systematic. This means that we must realize that we are not only bodies. We are fields. We have practiced this already through dealing with bubbles, vortexes, programmes, etc.
Thus, good evolvement and work with Yourself.
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The structure of the universe
(The table will be updated)

Pakkaram
December 5th, 2006, 10:02 PM
This theory about the structure of the universe explains why people remember Atlantis. Atlantis did not exist on the planet Earth here.
As You see, analoque planets exist. 1008 analoque planets exist at the same time. Each one in a different quantum and therefore in a diffferent level of evolution. If people don’t evolve quicly enough to stay on the planet what jumps into a next level of evolvement, then they can go one step back to a planet what is one step behind from their planet. This way they can stay to evolve in the same level of evolvement where they were. Atlantis existed on this planet what situated two quantums ahead from us (it has been destroyed by the way). We call this planet Atlantis. This planet was two steps ahead from us with its evolvement. There were same evolvement conditions what our planet will have after two quantum jumps. (Planet Avalon what is one step ahead from us has got same evolvement conditions what we will have after this quantum jump) People here, who remember Atlantis, are ones who came two steps back after planet Atlantis got destroyed.

Pakkaram
December 7th, 2006, 10:33 AM
One reason why the general world of science didn’t see the structure of the universe: our planet and people on our planet are moving away from the place where the big bang took place (actually is taking place constantly). So nowadays it is impossible for them to measure if it was the one explosion or the constant flow.

Of course this theory and the general world of science have got a lot in harmony too. For one example: scientists have discovered that there have been extinctions after every 65 billion year on our planet and we are at the end of one 65 billion year cycle right now.

Pakkaram
January 19th, 2007, 07:46 PM
(Translated Tokroda's theory)
Introduction.
All who wish to do some bigger work what alone or with pair of helpmates can’t be completed must compose the core of the team. The core of the team consists of 22 members. The biggest team on the planet is the ruler of generation’s team. His level is the creator of the first level. He has 22 companions whose levels should be the enlightener. Each one of them has one specific ability, quality. Each god or the ruler of the country or the alfa-male or the leader of the big organisation should know and manage to use this knowledge. Why this is important? To rule processes in useful direction for themselves. Each native leader has got the base-field-room which consists of 22 parts. Each common citizen’s base-field-room has got one chamber. This kind of person doesn’t manage with leading even if You educate or teach him as much as You want. Here is the reason why we can teach people in a business school, but they will not become leaders. Deeds are done by these people who have this ability along with birth. Of course in case if he is self-managing. The leader who isn’t accountable or rely on others, into his base-field-room people are placed by others. This kind of team doesn’t work. The leader automatically feeds with his energy these people who happen into these 22 chambers. The leader who denies the ability of leadership in him, this one feeds some other’s system through these people who live in his base-field-room and who serve a foreign master. Into the base-field-room are happened by appropriate native parameter. People need the leader’s energy. That’s why people search for nearness with the leader. This energy puts them to work, to evolve. If two candidates by change arise on one socket, then they start to rival mutually. And, if the leader doesn’t take it on hand, then even a war could arise. Of course the leader’s level determines a scope. For the leader of the company an intracompany war will start. If the ruler of generation would make this kind of mistake, then even a world war could start. Therefore, the leader must take in a decision, who he takes, who he leaves. This can be done then when he is aware of present peoples’ roles in his life.
Now we break down each field-room and its resident’s (a team member) duties and benefits.
These 22 field-rooms divide: Two of them give the base. These are the relic and the winger. Four of them are neutral and 16 are polar (8 pairs).
Energetic picture of the field-rooms: The relic is situated at the most centre, inside the leader (in his heart). The winger is one big ball in what are the rest 21 balls. Neutrals are situated on one line. Two of them stay in front of the person and two in behind. The rest of them form the oval circle. If we mentally make the ring into halves, then to the right hand (side) stay manly balls and to the left hand (side) stay womanly balls.
The Relic.
If someone has happened into the leader’s this field-room what’s task is to mirror the maintenance of the whole system, then the leader subconsciously gets the feeling that he/she is his treasure, a necessary person without who can’t be lived. He starts to take care of this that this person would feel good.
Why it is so? The team’s (as integer-work) essence is mirrored into one point in this part of the base-field-room. A person who is in the relic’s position senses, perceives this on himself/herself. If the team is in good health, complemented and makes work which creates goods, then the relic feels good and is happy. If the team is in disturbance, then the relic feels disturbed too. Other team members also subconsciously perceive this that the relic must feel good and they want to do something what would better the relic’s well-being.
Requirements for the relic: He/she has to be loyal to the leader. Example: if a wife is for the relic, then she mustn’t ever have sex with other man. If a student is for the relic, then he/she mustn’t follow a foreign teaching. If the leader of the company’s (owner) assistant is for the relic, then he/she mustn’t make any deal what brings profit for others except for the leader of the company. There are many variants. Everything depends of this what kind of type of relation is between the leader and the relic. Why it has to be so? If the relic is not loyal, then he/she starts to mirror a foreign system and then he/she doesn’t give out a true information. This creates errors in information and team members depart from their path. The leader must mercilessly and instantly dismiss this kind of relic.
The relic’s conveniences: This is the only position where someone can evolve without struggling. (in case the system is evolving). The energy of the system flows through the relic. Things go right by themselves. In case of the good system the relic’s life is bed of roses. Ibid, the relic can insistence that people would struggle for this that his/her life would be good.
From here the reason why some women want hard-working alfa-male and to become first lady. They sense subconsciously that with getting this position they get on easy life and the right to command others. Usually such for easy life searching woman is not loyal. Destroys whole team as a result, if the leader isn’t rough enough to throw her over board.
Examples from life: In Christian system, there is god Jahve (the dead god). For his relic is Jesus. On the level of the country the relic is a president or a king. According to a system of government. Teacher’s favourite child in school. Some sponsored sportsman in a company. Again, many examples.
Knowledge for people: If the relic feels bad, then people must ask what to do from the leader, not from the relic.


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Pakkaram
January 20th, 2007, 01:00 AM
(Translated Tokroda's theory)
The next-in-importance is the winger. His/her task is to protect the team’s work from outer attacks. In life it is so that if someone creates something, then somebody appears who wants to take it for himself/herself. The winger is the one whose task is to protect the team and its creation.
If the leader has placed someone for the winger (into the corresponding field-room) into his team, then others start to perceive this person as a quilty person. Why it is so? The field-room of the winger is like a big sphere in what are situated the rest 21 balls (field-rooms). The winger feeds directly from the leader’s energy. He/she misses receptivity to other energy. There are born as the winger. This person’s native parameter makes possible to feed only from an alfa-male and a god (or a goddess). The winger can not obtain information, knowledge, energy, etc. from a common citizen and from surroundings, from nature. He is receptive to impulses which are given out by the leader only. Now when the winger is in the position, then through this person the protection comes into being on the team. This sphere is like the projection of the work which is made by the team. Now, outer people who are not related to the team’s work stay outside from this sphere. They see this work, but can not get hold of it/seize it. All new people who come must go through this sphere. Thanks to the winger’s characteristic they can not enter, if they are not invited by the leader. Strangers can not open the sphere from outside. The winger doesn’t obey to outer influences. Now, if somebody wants to steal something, then he/she collides with the winger’s sphere. His/her attempt to open the gate doesn’t succeed and now for this person arises the will to blame the winger. Therefore, all who blame the winger are actually persons who want to get goods (which are created by this team) free. The leader determines a fee for the good. Only this person can enter who has got the corresponding fee with him/her.
Therefore, a wise leader knows who is his winger and he never listens to others’ accusations towards the winger. The unwise leader takes into consideration other people’s accusations and opens the defence.
Requirements for the winger: The winger must not ever accuse his/her leader. If he/she does this, then he/she already serves another master. Then the team is not protected anymore. The winger’s level must be minimally the same as the level of the work what is being done. This means that he/she must understand the needfulness of this work and appreciate the leader.
The winger’s conveniences: He/she can move with impunity around the world. This is conditioned by this that no one can influence him/her. The winger who seems absolutely blase, this one has got good, on high level, hard-working master (manages to fulfil all needs).
Examples from life: In Christian system, there is Satan for this. All what is harmful for the church this will be declared as satanic. In other words, the winger incurs all failures and sins. Very often in life there is so that alfa-male’s wife is the winger. This woman seems as a real root of evil for others. This kind of combination arises because the winger always searches for nearness to the leader. There is his/her mental food. Thanks to this woman the leader’s wealth remains (in case he is the leader of the company). People would mug him otherwise. Commonly, some female-god has got a male-winger. Then Foreign programs/male-aspects can not influence her. Her head isn’t stupid. She manages to control her moods.
Conclusion: A quilty person forms in every team. But, memorize that this quilty person is actually the guardian spirit of the team. If the will to blame the winger arises, then search for the hidden enemy from outer realm.

Pakkaram
January 20th, 2007, 06:32 AM
(Translated Tokroda's theory)
Carrying-out of every work, mission requires certain skills. Therefore, a person who can see hidden abilities in people must be in the team. In ordinary life, we see only these abilities which are already appeared in a person. Such talented, with skills people stand high. They are well rewarded. Only a rich company manages to over-pay a talented person. Ordinary company must educate a skill in a person. Here they are in front of a problem again. We can teach many, but few become skilled. Waste of energy, time and resource again. That’s why a person who can see people’s potential, hidden abilities must be in the team.
We recognize this kind of person by this that he/she emphasises a person. For a common citizen another person is some kind of object of utility. Often are spoken about workforce, human resources. The talents seeker gets offended when a human is being equated with a thing. The talents seeker who is on the level of high standing feels inner need to start to evolve a person. He/she has got an inner urge to prod him/her, to put to the test, to give an opportunity, to give schooling-money, etc. If a woman is for the talents seeker, then she doesn’t pay attention to a man’s outer things. She is interested in his content, how this man thinks, what kind of is his conception of the world, etc.
The male talents seeker looks women, how they react, what influence they give for him - do they fill with enthusiasm or indolence arises. In case of the right managing of the company this person deals with seeking for personnel. He has got an eye for this who fits and who doesn’t. In an inner circle, he is a person who gives recommendation for giving promotion. Often some talented person is a general laborer in a firm. Nobody notices that he/she manages ideally with other things too. The talents seeker notices this. If he/she has brought out this person, lifted up, then others notice too and wonder that this person is entirely different than they thought. Yes, only then they start to esteem him/her. Oftentimes happens so that then someone who turned a blind eye on him/her now comes to win him/her over, to offer better salary, etc.
Examples from life: If a teacher is the talents seeker, then from under his/her hand comes many people who succeed in life. This is conditioned from this that he/she can evolve person’s left aside characteristics. As well a wizard who is the same type easily finds people who he/she educates into witches. He/she sees potentials. The talents seeker of businessman type gives money, property for a talented person.
The talents seeker is with male-polarity. Is situated on the right wing, third when counted from front.
Peculiarity: Because the talents seeker is the dark green wizard, then his/her motto is: All what You do You do for Yourself too. He/she finds a talent this way that notices person’s output. What he/she gives.
Quality: Because the talents seeker is dark green, then he/she is hard-working. He/she is able to do without learning things of all kinds. The talents seekers level reveals from this. The more there are things with what he/she manages, the more up in grade he/she is.

Pakkaram
January 21st, 2007, 10:54 AM
(Translated Tokroda's theory)
Every team what creates something needs material. If material is easily available, then there is no problem. But, often in life it is so that there isn’t sufficiently everything. In that case, one on the level of high standing supplier is needed. The supplier is the person who has the gift to find and bring all possible deficient things.
The supplier is the person who is sent to supply something. According to the team’s needs the supplier has different tasks. For example, in religion structure he/she deals with recruiting people. He/she is a very good “converter”. The supplier provides clients for a firm in the business world. If the supplier works in charity, then he/she finds sponsors.
In ordinary life we recognize the supplier this way that he/she has a tendency to collect things. For example: A person loves to construct. Then the supplier of this type supplies all kind of tools. He/she could even have many sets. If someone comes to ask for help, then the supplier could have this kind of rare tools what nobody have seen before.
The supplier who is avid for knowledge creates library for himself/herself. Some supplier collects acquaintances. A warehouseman’s supplier loves to supply canned food etc.
Peculiarity: Because the supplier is the silver mage, then he/she has inner need to change the world into suitable for him/her. His/her motto: A person is free inside surroundings appropriate for him/her.
Quality: The supplier’s reserves describe him/her. If old and useless things are in the supplier’s reserves, then he/she has gone to pot. This shows his/her low quality same way, if in his/her acquaintanceship are pointless people. The supplier on the level of high standing has got acquaintanceship on important positions.
In the mental world: The alive supplier can collect spirits. He/she has feeling that spiritual beings of all kind contact with him/her. Often he/she is in trouble with dead souls. The supplier as a woman can create connections with visual worlds of all kinds. Her husband will come in for flood of info, situations. But, some supplier loves to collect gods and then he/she belongs into every sect.

Pakkaram
March 17th, 2007, 10:43 PM
I wrote one more earthly explanation about the enemies of mankind:

Look what has been done here on this planet. Mabye You see how clever, perfect, rude, perverse and bastardly invasion methods/enslavement methods are used by enslaving religions or cultures or by the most powerful rulers in the history and by many rulers nowadays, too or etc. All the methods are this kind that they give no advantages to anyone here for the future. All they build is destructive. All they create is certain destruction for all local souls in the future.
Do You really think that this is the will and these operation models/programs (as we call them) are creation of our own people of the planet Earth?
No local souls can get profit from this. By the way, the souls who are realizing this doom on this planet, their deeds of invasion are self-destructive - annihilating for themselves too.
Everything has a purpose and a purpose serves someone’s interests. Who can get profit from this?
These have to be imported operating models by what this all has been done and is done right now. The mental world (also known as spiritual world, astral plane, subtle material level, etc.) is this what forms a person. This what goes on on the planet Earth shows that this what forms a person - the mental world is changed. I see that there is a thing like a virus in the mental world. The virus that changes mankind and makes people to act as it is useful for the creator of it.
So, who has created this virus and these operating models that this virus disseminates and whose will is this madness here?
Because no local souls could get profit from this madness here it has to be created by someone outside from the planet Earth. But why should someone in our universe wish to destroy the planet’s and actually the whole universe? (the more planets are destroyed and souls perverted the closer is the universe to its destruction).
And, he had to be very high levelled, because this virus calculates with its surroundings on very high level. If he wants to destroy people and the universe, then he has to understand people’s nature and the universe in order to create a virus that could destroy them. And, I think You have seen Yourself through living on the plane Earth that it works brilliantly. This virus knows the laws of the universe and the systems of this planet. Actually, it has ruined many of these systems of the nature and made these systems to work for itself.
So I see that this can not be the will and creation our own people of the planet Earth nor higher beings of this universe.
This virus has to come from some other universe. From some parasitic universe that needs these resources here. This can be useful only for them, for parasites who wish to destroy the planet and this universe.

gurlygurl2004
April 26th, 2007, 02:46 PM
What's Brown magick?

Pakkaram
May 7th, 2007, 09:31 AM
What's Brown magick?
Sorry for answering to You only after so long time. I though already nobody here has no questions or interest in these different magics, so I didn’t check has anyone replied every day.

Some information about the Brown magic: For example, it teaches how to use Your brown energy transfer line and to bring out Your different aspects (different parts of You) into development. It also teaches how to be as a field and to create changes in the spiritual world (also known as the mental world, astral plane, subtle material level and so on) as being a field. The brown magician can be just like a field, he seems to exist everywhere in some reality and makes changes that seem to come out from nowhere. There can be seen no personality behind this magic. So, people can get no information about the one who caused these changes, but he can get information about all that stay inside the reach of his field . People often see the acts of the brown magician (a person who uses brown magic) as the acts of god.

But, for developing, improving his abilities, he needs to take himself into polarity on some subject of life. It makes him personal, he can not act as a field in this subject of life.

Agaliha
May 25th, 2007, 11:29 PM
Forum Guide note:

Pakkaram your previous threads have been merged into your main intro thread "Estonian Paganism - Tokroda" (the thread you're in now) They have not been deleted. You can continue to post about Tokroda in this thread.