Hey People!!!

[rantnraven]

I have been informed that the Pagan Pride Day has been announced here in the past without a lot of interest.

This is a very important issue at hand.

We can sit here on line all day long and profess our undying love of the Mother, the Goddess, the Elders and the Great Ones. Sure it is easy to do on line but, we NEED to get out there. We need to speak in numbers. There is no denying this.

We have to tell others about us so they might understand and through this, we can all live happier together. It matter not - Pagan, Christian, Buddhist, Muslim. Until we speak out, we will remain in the Shadows.

Join us and be proud of who and what you are. Come out of the broom closet for just that one day.

Epelo (And I speak this).

This Community has come together in the past. Let it come together NOW. Again

RnR

[Mariposa De La Luna]

BLESSED BE BROTHER RNR! :D

[rantnraven]

Now go curl up on that thingy.

RnR

[Witchbourne]

Originally posted by rantnraven
I have been informed that the Pagan Pride Day has been announced here in the past without a lot of interest.

This is a very important issue at hand.

We can sit here on line all day long and profess our undying love of the Mother, the Goddess, the Elders and the Great Ones. Sure it is easy to do on line but, we NEED to get out there. We need to speak in numbers. There is no denying this.

We have to tell others about us so they might understand and through this, we can all live happier together. It matter not - Pagan, Christian, Buddhist, Muslim. Until we speak out, we will remain in the Shadows.

Join us and be proud of who and what you are. Come out of the broom closet for just that one day.

Epelo (And I speak this).

This Community has come together in the past. Let it come together NOW. Again

RnR

This is the first time i hear about this day...i've never
heard of it before....hmmm...and the date for this day is
when?...if i'll missed it then i will be damned sertain not
to miss it the next time....yes i agree...people should
know....since to many secrets makes people less understandable.......but what can i do...and do we have
a sucha day here in sweden....sounds great though...

BB

[rantnraven]

Originally posted by Witchbourne


This is the first time i hear about this day...i've never
heard of it before....hmmm...and the date for this day is
when?...if i'll missed it then i will be damned sertain not
to miss it the next time....yes i agree...people should
know....since to many secrets makes people less understandable.......but what can i do...and do we have
a sucha day here in sweden....sounds great though...

BB

Grettings,

I don't know if there is one in Sweden just yet. However, if you go to http://www.paganpride.org, perhaps you could help start one. That would be great.

Keep me posted.

I can see your heart is true. Blessings,

RNR

[Witchbourne]

Originally posted by rantnraven


Grettings,

I don't know if there is one in Sweden just yet. However, if you go to http://www.paganpride.org, perhaps you could help start one. That would be great.

Keep me posted.

I can see your heart is true. Blessings,

RNR

I was at the page....i fixed the link though since it did not work....

http://www.paganpride.org/

now it works.....

i saved the link and will go and read the page later..but
i will go and take some tea now and look at a movie and
then sleep.....the time is 5:39 in the morning and i havent sleept yet..so i'll look at the page when i awake
after my sleep.....thank you.....and also thank you for
saying that my heart is true.....i feel that your heart are
true too.....

Blessed be*

[bluecat]

Just click on my link and you will see it on my site. I am also checking with my Albuquerque contact. :p :D :cool:

Blue

[rantnraven]

Originally posted by Witchbourne


I was at the page....i fixed the link though since it did not work....

http://www.paganpride.org/

now it works.....

i saved the link and will go and read the page later..but
i will go and take some tea now and look at a movie and
then sleep.....the time is 5:39 in the morning and i havent sleept yet..so i'll look at the page when i awake
after my sleep.....thank you.....and also thank you for
saying that my heart is true.....i feel that your heart are
true too.....

Blessed be*

I am warmed by your words. Sleep well and dream big.

RnR

[Witchbourne]

Originally posted by rantnraven


I am warmed by your words. Sleep well and dream big.

RnR


I have now read through the page....but since i've never
been the person to lead others i think it's a to big task for me....but i did post a link to the site on my homepage
to spread the words about it...and hopefully someone
from sweden will see this page and take on this task...
see i would not mind to be apart of this but i do not
want to be the lead roll for it.....


Thank you for your sleep wishes......

Blessed be*

[rantnraven]

Originally posted by Witchbourne



I have now read through the page....but since i've never
been the person to lead others i think it's a to big task for me....but i did post a link to the site on my homepage
to spread the words about it...and hopefully someone
from sweden will see this page and take on this task...
see i would not mind to be apart of this but i do not
want to be the lead roll for it.....


Thank you for your sleep wishes......

Blessed be*

You're welcome but, I'll bet you could lead just fine.

Once you put your mind to something, you can do anything.

RnR

[Witchbourne]

Originally posted by rantnraven


You're welcome but, I'll bet you could lead just fine.

Once you put your mind to something, you can do anything.

RnR


Thank you....

I know that if the mind is there one can do anything...
hmm.....well...we see what i will do......i will spread the
word about this though....iv'e been trying to make
people to look at Wicca and Paganism with a more open
heart and i have sucseded to turn some people...i did
found out that manny people thought Wicca and Paganism as evil.....so i explained to them that it wasent so....and that it mostly are about the Nature from both our insides and outside....but awcourse there
are always someone that takes it to a dark place and use it in a unwise way....but i explained that theres always been bad elements and good ones and the best
way is a balance of it all......to never just chose just one
direction but to be at peace with them all.......

hmm....so was this a good advise to give them??..they
thought it was...so i'll gues it most have been....

Thanks again my friend

BB

[rantnraven]

There is balance in everything. All that we say and do. Some feel Wicca and Paganism to be evil, yes. And there are some that use it to means other then good.

I have read many stories that state Wicca/Paganism is linked to serial murders. What they miss is the fact that there are just as many other religions that can be linked as well.

You have done well by telling those in your community the truth. SEE, you are a leader.

Blessed Be,

RnR

[Witchbourne]

Originally posted by rantnraven
There is balance in everything. All that we say and do. Some feel Wicca and Paganism to be evil, yes. And there are some that use it to means other then good.

I have read many stories that state Wicca/Paganism is linked to serial murders. What they miss is the fact that there are just as many other religions that can be linked as well.

You have done well by telling those in your community the truth. SEE, you are a leader.

Blessed Be,

RnR


Yes i agree that they always seams to forget that theres
just the exact same amont good and bad in other religions and even if theres no religion there still are both good and bad....

hmm.. i dont know if i ever have liked the word leader..
it sounds so military somehow...don't you think?...but thank you for thinking this way about me.....but i'm only
a part of nature and i'll do what i feel i must do....

All balance and strenght to you my friend and may your
way always lead you to good ways....

Blessed be*

[Mariposa De La Luna]

Sorry Witchborne if RnR jumped on you like that. Its just this community doesn't seem too interested in Pagan Pride. Out of almost 500 members only less than 50 have viewed this and only you and Blue responded. I posted something similar earlier and less than 20 viewed it. This is sad. :(
Do what you can and pass it on.

[rantnraven]

I apologize if it appeared that I had jumped on anyone. That surely was not the intent. However, if I have caused harm, please accept this apology.

Many Blessings,
Thoma

[Mariposa De La Luna]

It just seemed like you were pushing him. I know where you're coming from and i understand. Him being from Sweden, I didn't want to make him feel like he was being put upon. You have every right to be yourself. We'll just have to like you more for it.
:)

[Lady Tana]

I think this one needs a *bump* like the other one did ;)

[rantnraven]

Originally posted by Lady Tana
I think this one needs a *bump* like the other one did ;)

You're about a day ahead of me.

Thanks and here's somemore lemonade.

*hugs*

RnR

[Witchbourne]

Now i'm confused????

No one have jumped on me and no one should be sorry
...
Please if theres someone who should be sorry it's me-..
since it seams like something i did write seams to have
been missunderstod.....i'm so sorry for this....and please
i have no anger towards no one....i love you all......

Blessed be*

[bluecat]

Originally posted by Witchbourne
Now i'm confused????

No one have jumped on me and no one should be sorry
...
Please if theres someone who should be sorry it's me-..
since it seams like something i did write seams to have
been missunderstod.....i'm so sorry for this....and please
i have no anger towards no one....i love you all......

Blessed be*

No worries, friend, I sense no anger toward you.

Have a glass of citron Sprudel water. (I think I got that right.)

Blue :cool:

[Red Dragon]

Consider carefully that word, 'Pride' and where it can lead ;)

While it is good to be proud of ones profession... it can lead to false pride, and the last thing paganism needs is another 'new age phenomena' :D

I for one have strong views, and feel that my craft should be kept for the most part, private. After all it is my personal connection with deity that makes me what I am. I think that a 'pride day' puts us in the realm of other extremist groups, and can be something that will tend to cause more harm than good.

IMHO, Hee,hee :D

[Witchbourne]

Originally posted by bluecat


No worries, friend, I sense no anger toward you.

Have a glass of citron Sprudel water. (I think I got that right.)

Blue :cool:


merci*....

and i gladly drink that citron Sprudel water that you
reached out and gave to me.....

Blessed be*

[Mariposa De La Luna]

Originally posted by Witchbourne
Now i'm confused????

No one have jumped on me and no one should be sorry
...
Please if theres someone who should be sorry it's me-..
since it seams like something i did write seams to have
been missunderstod.....i'm so sorry for this....and please
i have no anger towards no one....i love you all......

Blessed be*


Your writing is fine and very good. We give you lots of practice in your english, I'm sure. If RnR came on me like that I would think he was being a bit pushy so I guess I just jumped in there instead of letting it be. I'm sorry. OK that's enough apologies so lets get on with the topic at hand.

[Mariposa De La Luna]

Originally posted by Red Dragon
Consider carefully that word, 'Pride' and where it can lead ;)

While it is good to be proud of ones profession... it can lead to false pride, and the last thing paganism needs is another 'new age phenomena' :D

I think most pagans won't let it lead to false pride within themselves. Some already advertise it like another 'new age phenomena' so this can't start that. Those are also the same people you have to be wary of and that seekers need to know about. That is one of the things this might acomplish including becoming a unified community.



I for one have strong views, and feel that my craft should be kept for the most part, private. After all it is my personal connection with deity that makes me what I am. I think that a 'pride day' puts us in the realm of other extremist groups, and can be something that will tend to cause more harm than good.

IMHO, Hee,hee :D


You can keep your craft private. I'm sure we all agree on that. There are just some things you can't or won't share.No one is asking you to yell it from the rooftops. If you're afraid of persecution, that's fine too, you don't have to attend but consider passing it along to other pagans at least.
I believe this event is primarily to show the general population, seekers, solitaries, that we exist everywhere, we are normal people and, for those who find it hard to meet others, you are not alone.
I'm sure in some places the media might skew it but that is a chance worth taking IMHO. If a true seeker sees it on the news and finds help, that is one less person that is floundering out there. Look at what Gay Pride did. I must admit I'm not but they are not an extremist group. They have brought people of a like mind together.
Yes it might bring about harm because we are out in the open in a group. The people who have a problem with or can't stand change are going to come out of the woodwork scared as rabbits. And we will be here as a group to say you can't change our hearts and you will have to live with us just like homosexuals. There is not going to be a change against peoples views on paganism until they realize we're everywhere. With the current administration not wanting to recognize our religion it is even more important. Whether you are part of the solution or not is your business but there will be Pagans everywhere fighting for our rights and public acceptance.
This is not be the only solution. There is the postcard campaign for the week of the solstice and the quilt project. Pick one of these more annonymis ones if you will but I doubt any one of these on their own would make a big difference.

I am Pagan Proud and I will be there and hopefully help in Dallas, TX.

[Kaylara]

I want to do something around here, but I think that it would be really hard. The pagan community around here is fragmented to say the least. There were some groups that were just for New Jersey pagans, but they have shut down due to lack of involvement of members. Any ideas?
The other problem is that I am young, and get automatically dismissed by some older pagans around here. So, if there is anyone else from NJ who would like to go into this with me, please let me know! And if you have any advice, please tell me.

BB,
Kaylara

[Mariposa De La Luna]

Kaylara, I would at least tell it to all the NJ Pagans you know and tell them to tell others. Is there maybe a college campus group or pagan store who is willing? I can understand this doesn't look like a project for just one individual unless they have alot of time on their hands.

[Kaylara]

The one metaphysical show near me just closed. I know of a bunch of coffee shops etc, and some other pagans in the area, but I need something to advertise first. I know that I am not going to be able to do this by myself, I don't have that much time on my hands. The other problem is that lots of people pledge their help, but (and this has happened to me many times before) when it comes to actually doing it, not one of them shows up. (Kinda disheartening) Thanks for the imput though, and I will try looking around for others who would like to do this.

Kaylara

[rantnraven]

Originally posted by Kaylara
The one metaphysical show near me just closed. I know of a bunch of coffee shops etc, and some other pagans in the area, but I need something to advertise first. I know that I am not going to be able to do this by myself, I don't have that much time on my hands. The other problem is that lots of people pledge their help, but (and this has happened to me many times before) when it comes to actually doing it, not one of them shows up. (Kinda disheartening) Thanks for the imput though, and I will try looking around for others who would like to do this.

Kaylara

The web site that I posted was primarily the West Coast. I have an email out to my contact here in So. Cal to see if he has any suggestions for you.

I'll get back to you as soon as I hear back from him.

Blessings on your eagerness.

RnR

[Kaylara]

Thank you RnR and Samh for your advice! I really do appreciate it!

Kaylara

[Witchbourne]

Originally posted by SAHM



Your writing is fine and very good. We give you lots of practice in your english, I'm sure. If RnR came on me like that I would think he was being a bit pushy so I guess I just jumped in there instead of letting it be. I'm sorry. OK that's enough apologies so lets get on with the topic at hand.


Dear SAHM..

my english can be abit wrong though from time to time
but i'm learning.....and thank you for saying that my
english are good......

I never thought RnR did came on to me in anyway or
pushed me.....but i'm thankful for your carying...that was
very nice of you....Bright blessing' to you for that....

Blessed be*

[rantnraven]

*bumpity bumpity bump*

[Mariposa De La Luna]

*BUMP*
Ouch! that one hurt!;)