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Epona44
March 9th, 2002, 02:34 PM
I be curious to know, for those who believe in reincarnation, whether you think people tend to be born into the same families time after time?

Do you think there are changes in those relationships? i.e. siblings, parents, children. Do souls get experience each?

Do souls tend to come into life in groups? As old friends?

Arduinna
March 9th, 2002, 03:04 PM
JMO, but no I don't believe that we are reborn into the same family group. I do believe that there are karmic relationships though.

I do believe that there is at least one person in my current life that I have a karmic relationship with, and that we have come in contact in at least two other lives. Though we didn't have the same relationship in our previous lives.

Dancin Girl
March 9th, 2002, 03:28 PM
I've wondered about that too, but I think maybe occasionally we might come back into the same family because there is something within that environment or group that needs to be dealt with or resolved, some other soul within that group that needs us.... I do think we come back in certain soul groups and experience different variations on relationships and such.... like male, female, father, mother, child, lover, friend, or foe, in each life so that we learn from the dynamics and experiences of that perspective.

Epona44
March 9th, 2002, 04:04 PM
I also believe in its polar opposite, called dharma, or the conscious act of helping someone when you have nothing to gain or lose in doing so.

I know people are aware of karma and its threads and bonds. I wondered what people think of the idea of repeating lives with certain people for whatever reason.

Dancin Girl
March 9th, 2002, 04:14 PM
I'm quite positive that I've repeated lives with certain people, some of them family members, some of them friends, and some of them I've met through strange coincidences that are seemingly unexplainable other that karma, or "it was just meant to be"

Earthcup
March 9th, 2002, 09:33 PM
I think that happens sometimes. I'm 98% sure two people in my family reincarnated back into my family. I don't think I've ever bumped into my mom or sisters in previous lives though...

Amethyst Rose
March 9th, 2002, 11:57 PM
It's often joked about in my family, that my sister has the soul of our great grandmother, because my mom found out she was pregnant on the day that Baba died.
I personally believe that we choose to reincarnate depending on the lessons that we need to learn, so that could be within family.... however, when you consider just how many people are in the world, I'd say that it's highly unlikely....
But who knows? :)

Epona44
March 10th, 2002, 12:00 AM
You can have a lifelong relationship with your family members and never feel a strong bond to them.

Yet you can meet someone and, almost before speaking to them, you can know that you've always known them.

I have a lifelong friend who has always felt like a sister to me and we interact in a sibling sort of way.

Yet my own sister seems to be rather a stranger, although I see her frequently and visit. It's not that we've ever had a falling out, it's as if there's no sense of family there.

Yet, I know I have crossed paths at least once and probably more than that with my gentleman friend.

And his friend told me of memories of having been a monk. It was an odd thing to say, after I had spoken to him a few times. What made it even more strange was that I've had fragmented memories and dreams in which I was a priest.

Earthcup
March 10th, 2002, 12:16 AM
Two of my nieces have a personality resemblance with dead family members that goes way beyond genetics or coincindence. But then I think we can choose where we incarnate, not that we make fab choices.

I've got a hunch that I chose my mom, she'd been trying to get pregnant for 9 years and there was nothing physically wrong with her, she already had two kids.

She only told me this recently, I had always guessed birth control before, and when she said it I had this overpowering, well, not a memory but a feeling that I had picked her because she wanted a baby so badly. My family was hoping for a boy, to be named Gabriel, and got a smartass irreverent little girl named Star. lol My sisters actually cried when they heard I was a girl.

However three years later she had a boy, but named him Ray when Gabriel was a much better name...:sick:

Then she had to have a hysterectmy(sp?) to prevent hereditary cancer... anyway I think I helped her have a son for some odd reason. My birth was no prob but he was a C-section preemie.

Anyway I think we can choose where we incarnate, not always for the reasons we'd pick when we're incarnate! lol Or I'd have been born to someone with a pool!;)

And it's very late and I'm rambling on and I think I'd better go to bed...

Dancin Girl
March 10th, 2002, 12:21 AM
I've always felt a strong connection with my one sister, but nothing with the other one.... And, while working on my family history, some extremely strange dreams, visions and coincidences happened causing me to feel connections with some part of that past so I do think there was a life experience tied to this family somewhere in that past. Also I've met a number of people with whom I've had immediate strong connections to, and they felt the same connection.

Windsinger
March 12th, 2002, 11:22 AM
many old religions (not modern ones) and family traditions teach familial reincarnation.
It is very common in West African (and african diaspora) religions, and not uncommon in Southern British remnants.

The reincarnation beliefs of these faiths differ strongly from Vedic reincarnation, and evolved separately. They are often based very much in the concept some folks call the secret of the Grail "The King and The Land are one."
In this concept, the power of a family or tribe comes from deals made with The Land, the Gods, the ancestors, even the devil, that ties them to a place, often where they are the the leadership. For some families, this leadership was 1000 years ago, not recognised by modern governments, and the family still pays blood price if the land is attacked.

Familial reincarnation trads nearly all teach that if you are not a blood relative of the family of a certain degree (first cousin, for example) you simply do not have the power, and deny you access to their teachings.

It sounds like a neat thing to belong to, but it is also a burden. Some of these families teach that the power comes with a price, and if the land is attacked, that price is often suicide.

Epona44
March 12th, 2002, 01:34 PM
Sounds like wonderful material for a short story. Ever considered writing one Windsinger?

:cool:

Myst
March 12th, 2002, 02:00 PM
I suppose if their lessons are best learned in that family they will be born into it again. I feel that people have lessons to learn and are born, live, and die, to learn those lessons.

Perhaps people come back as friends often because lessons they learn are best learned together, or because they started these incarnations at the same time and naturally cycle near eachother, or because they like the familiarity of those they've known before now.