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RainInanna
November 11th, 2006, 02:49 PM
Hi guys,

While I realize movies are not expected to depict reality or historical basis, and I don't really expect them to, I loved the new movie called Arthur with Clive Owen, Keira Knightley, etc. They suggested a new myth to Arthur. Anyone heard of this particular take on the Arthur story? I particularly loved how this one treated Arthur, his knights, and even Gwenivere.

Also, sources for other Arthur myths?

PeatBog
November 11th, 2006, 10:57 PM
I haven't seen that movie yet, but here's an Arthurian booklist to look for more sources.

http://www.io.com/~tittle/books/arthurian.html

_Banbha_
November 28th, 2006, 11:14 PM
Hi guys,

While I realize movies are not expected to depict reality or historical basis, and I don't really expect them to, I loved the new movie called Arthur with Clive Owen, Keira Knightley, etc. They suggested a new myth to Arthur. Anyone heard of this particular take on the Arthur story? I particularly loved how this one treated Arthur, his knights, and even Gwenivere.

Also, sources for other Arthur myths?

The myth used in the movie was a bit of historical speculation that Arthur and his men were Samaritans serving in the Roman calvery. There is evidence that Samaritans served in Britain. I don't have the links but graves were excavated along Hadrian's Wall from the era. One belonging to a woman with full gear.

Some Links:
http://www.heroicage.org/issues/2/ha2tf.htm
http://www.greatdreams.com/arthur.htm : lots of info here of all kinds.
http://www.acronet.net/~magyar/english/1997-3/GRAIL.htm odd hungarian theory
http://www.britannia.com/history/h12.html
http://www.aloha.net/~mattman/electext.html
http://arthurpendragon.ukonline.co.uk/artfaq.html
http://labyrinth.georgetown.edu/
http://www.myclassiclyrics.com/artist_biographies/King_Arthur_Biography.htm
http://www.library.wwu.edu/ref/subjguides/humanities/medieval/medarth.htm

omar
December 3rd, 2006, 01:05 PM
From what I have read Arthure & his knights were not knights but the Kings of the United Kingdoms.

RainInanna
December 3rd, 2006, 01:31 PM
Seems like there are many different versions and ideas regarding who they were and what they did. I just love that movie; how it depicts the characters and how they show honour and nobility. Makes me remember the importance of hero myths and how we can learn from them.

PeatBog
December 10th, 2006, 04:34 PM
From what I've read, the Knights of the Round Table includes some kings such as King Pellinore( the father of Perceval) and King Hoel of Brittany, but consisted mostly of knights.

Within Malory's episode of Sir Urry, some other kings are mentioned including Angwish of Ireland and Carados of Scotland. King Lot of Lothian(or Orkney) was the father of Gawain, Gaheris and Agravaine though not a Round Table Knight himself. King Mark of Cornwall wasn't a Round Table Knight either though he was the uncle of Sir Tristram. Neither was King Pelles of Listenoise, the Maimed King.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Knights_of_the_Round_Table

PeatBog
December 11th, 2006, 11:44 AM
Le Morte D'Arthur in Middle English, by Syr Thomas Malory:

Corpus of Middle English Prose and Verse (http://www.hti.umich.edu/cgi/t/text/text-idx?c=cme;idno=MaloryWks2;rgn=div1;view=text;cc=cme;node=MaloryWks2%3A1)

Of10Rot10
December 11th, 2006, 01:46 PM
The myth used in the movie was a bit of historical speculation that Arthur and his men were Samaritans serving in the Roman calvery. There is evidence that Samaritans served in Britain. I don't have the links but graves were excavated along Hadrian's Wall from the era. One belonging to a woman with full gear.


Yup goes along with what I was taught.

I had a professor that started the class on History of the Middle Ages by informing the class that if anyone was there looking for Arthur they were in the wrong class! He would then procede to tell us how if there was an Arthur, and there was some evidence to suggest that the myth was indeed based in some fact, he would have been a ruler somewhere in the 3rd maybe 4th century CE. He would end by stating that outside of discussing the rise of the literature reflecting the much early Arthur Myth/Ledgend this was to be only time that Arthur would play any part in his lectures.

All in all was one of the best classes I've ever taken!