Quiji Boards

[firefairy86]

Have any if you had positive or negative experiences with the Quiji board.? I was never allowed to use it as a kid and it freaks me out to use it now.... I'm just curious.

[Bluewillow]

I've never used one myself because I figure it's a pretty random way of calling up anything that happens to be around. It's like someone once said, it can be like opening your door in a busy city and calling out for someone to come, if that makes sense. I just don't trust them at all. So because I haven't used one myself I haven't had any positive or negative experiences, but I have known others who have had negative experiences.

One friend claimed that whatever came through while she was using the board was spelling out really horrible things, and another friend was using one while I was in the next room and there was suddenly a loud crash and the lights went out. The extent of what happened in there I don't know, just what I observed from where I was. The crash and lights going out wasn't a result of anything the friend did, in any event. I've heard of people having pretty negative experiences, but also some that have been pretty neutral.

[Knate]

According to my Mother, it was a Ouija board that converted her to become a Jehovahs Witness, which she still is today.

Want to hear the story? Ya twisted my arm, I'll tell it.

When my Mother was 14, at a sleepover with 3 other friends, they thought it would be fun.(Ouija board at a teenage girls sleepover, just like in the movies!)

After a few minutes of holding the peice of clear plastic, otherwise known as the "Planchette". It began to move, as they all were a bit scared, my Mother, being the bold type I always remembered, started asking questions.

"Who are you" she asked.

"Lou" it spelled out.

"Where are you?" she asked.

"Dark, cold" It replied.

Then, my Mother asked if it was afraid of anything where its at.

And it spelled out "Jehovah"

And that was the turning point for her, a year later she was a baptized Jehovahs Witness, and still is to this day.

Go figure.


As for me, Its a game thats made by Parker Brothers that I can buy in the toy section at K-Mart.

I was sooooo disappointed to find that these Ouija boards were not nearly as cool as they were in the movies.

[Bethra]

Personal experience I don't have since I have never really felt the urge to play with such a thing. However both my mother and my mam both had interesting experiences with them

Firstly my Mother who really is very new to anything esoteric in her own studies but has had numerous "weird" things happen to her she just doesn't ask for explanations on. When she was a young teenager her step mother brought a board to their home and she said it would be fun to play with it. My mother did not get on with her step mother and said she had a sense of foreboding about the whole idea but the step mother won and so the family sat down to play. I don't recall the full details on that mother said something came through and it felt very bad and wrong. She said she never felt they were able to close the door on it either because she would "see" it out and about in places. My Mother was witness to one of our cousins getting run over crossing the road and she saw just before the cousin stepped out she saw the thing that came through with the board.

My mam's experience was somewhat different. Again she was a young teen in dorms and not remotely interested in the esoteric at times. Mam being mam she was always a gathering point and one girl said they should do a board. They made it from scratch with bits of paper with letters on and a glass and set it all up on mam's dressing table in her dorm room. Also in the dorm room was mam's wardrobe which was notorious for always falling open so she kept it locked. They were doing the board and suddenly there came knocking from inside the wardrobe. They asked if anyone was there and the name spelled out was Alister Crowley's. Bare in mind that at the time mam had never heard of Crowley and neither had any of her friends being all good catholic school education. The knocking got louder and louder and became banging. So mam (hesitantly) got up to unlock the door of the wardrobe. Normally once unlocked the door would swing open of it's own accord but this time it didn't. So mam pulled on the handle and she said it felt like someone was pulling back against her preventing the door from coming open. She pulled and pulled but the door wouldn't open so in the end she gave up and stepped away from the wardrobe, suddenly the door flew open like someone had kicked it from the inside. Mam said all the girls just ran out of her room there and then and left her with it all. Ever after the wardrobe door would stick. LOL

[halfwaynowhere]

mine doesn't work... at least, i haven't been able to get it to work... i guess i can't channel anything. no loss to me... I have a silly parker brothers one, and i have a nicer wood one with the runic alphabet. Neither one have given me any results. my best friend saw the parker bros one, and wants to try. I'll give it a shot. i don't expect it to work, if it does say anything, it will probably just be my friend moving it...

[puchidevil]

Me and my friends played with a board when we are 13.

It actually gave us a cryptic warning :) - we thought nothing of it since everything else that came from the board was nonsense.

It spelled out..............beware, 666, week one, day 4, month ten of your 17th year.

Forgot all about it.

when I was 16, a very bad occurance happened, and we remembered the warning from the board, since the occurance DID happen in the first week of October.

Didnt understand how it got the year wrong, as i was only 16, not 17 lol. Told my father about it. He explained that although i was 16, i WAS actually in my 17th year,. as we celebrate our birthdays based on how long we have been alive. So, i WAS actually in my 17th year.

I still say HMMMMMM regarding the coincidence of it all lol

[TheWomanMonster]

I played around with Ouija boards a LOT as a young teen...
I've made my own with paper and packing tape, used the parker bros version and a handmade wooden one as well.

Sometimes it was rather real feeling, like we were actually speaking with some spiritual entity. Othertimes I can say with certainty that someone within the group was manipulating it.

Once I was using the board with only one other person, we asked who were were speaking to and it gave us a strange name 'dutchess something'
and then told us another name which I can't recall... (it was a LONG time ago sorry I cannot remember things with clarity)
I was like, weird names, "what are you?" and she said a horse of all things...
we went downstairs a short while later and my friend's step-father was watching horse racing, the winner of the race was the second name...
On TV they went into a brief history of the horse and his jockey, and mentioned that the Dame (mother) to this horse was called Dutchess (the first name we were shown) and had been tragically killed shortly after the winning horse's birth.
Weird eh?

Not spooky really... just odd.
I do understand the fear of inviting something in which you do not know or have any control over.
I don't scare easy though.

The same friend and I were playing with a different board when I went to visit her after she moved. I don't remember what happened but I do remember that apparently I scared her really badly as she bolted from the room mid-communication and locked me in. Apparently I had started speaking in a different voice, but I don't remember what was said...
channeling maybe?

We were so young, it's hard to say how much of it was real and how much was imagined.

Haven't used a board in years...

[dragoncrone]

Bought mine back in the 80s, my son and I could get it to answer and spell out stuff. Took it over to Nifty's at Samhain, had a nice chat with some spirits in her kitchen.
Scared? Never. Curious? Always.

[Meadhbh]

I've used them before. I've haven't as really long time. But as I recall I got some results. What it seems to me is how willing people are to believe that its working as much as anything else.

[Knate]

From the times I used it, it seemed other people were making it move more than anything. Dosent it just seem too easy. I mean its a board game, and teenagers can contact siprits with it? If it was that sucessful, wouldnt it be a staple of so many different paths?

I know some will say "Its so unpredictable of what would come through"

But wouldnt experience and proper protection, if you will, make someone very effecient at it?

Even in this day, its still considered like a "game". Even with the wealth of info of other Occultists, for lack of a better term.

A Majority of the stories you hear are second hand, "I heard from this person" etc.

It seems more folklore than anything.

I could be wrong about everything, thats possible, too.

[angle kitsune]

I have a old handmade one in my room...used it once with my little sister who moved it the whole night tell we got up to get sodas...and the pointer thingie went flyin off the table...i would mess around with it more but my sister has baned me form using it in the house when she is home and i need to reseal the wood....

[number_the_dead]

I bought one some time ago with my two sisters. We decided to try it just to see if it worked. We tried it just the three of us. We tryed to de everything as textbook as possible (semi dark room lighted by a single candle ect...) We put out a tape recorder to documet everything that happened and to possibly capture something else. We got in the right mindset before useing it (meditation and verbal sikeing each other up) When we sat down and tried to use it....... not a darn thing!!! We tried over and over. All of us were trying so hard NOT to manipulate it ourselves cause we all wanted it to honestly work. Finally we gave up and just went with the old fashioned seance. That didn't do much for a while but my sister did have an expirience then... wich I shall not go into because this is the "ougia board" thread not "seance gone wrong" thread. The cool part though was that after when we played back the recorder there was a very startling noise right after the gone wrong part of our seance... but that also is a different story.

[Aum]

I've only had positive experiences with the ouija board, but I believe it's because I only attracted positive energies to me when using is because that was my intention. I always asked for positive energies and influences to work with me prior to beginning. I believe the energy we send out is defines the energy that will be attracted to us, so if one has fears than chances are attracting negative energies will be exactly what happens. I believe fears of the ouija board are simply conditioned thoughts, conditions of the mind created by ones encounters with others opinions about the board via society as a whole whether it be through movies, family, friends, or any others who have impacted one's own view and opinion of the ouija board.

I think the ouija is as natural as gravity, it just so happens to connect us with the spirit world in an obvious way, rather than in a very subtle way. I think it's a built in mechanism of the universal laws of nature that we are able to communicate with the spirit world. Our intentions, emotions and feelings whether they be positive or negative will impact that communication in my opinion because the universe is fully aware of all of our self, therefore pretending to not be scared of the board will not work if one has fears of it because the universe will simply know your true feelings about it. So go in peace, fully. Until then, using it has the possibility of bringing about something other than peaceful.

Listen to your intuition, know your intentions, and ask yourself if you are "using" the board for self gratification, or if you are authentically working with it and communicating with the spirit world on a positive vibration.

Edited to add... The board I used was homemade on bristol board and a mini aol cd with a marked pointer towards one edge. I've used the board maybe 10 times in my life tops. I haven't used the board in a long time (atleast 4 years I believe) simply because 1. I haven't been interested at various times when the opportunity may have arisen 2. I haven't found someone to work with that was willing and able to work with the board on the same positive level as I. I remember when I did use it though, the spirit world certainly seemed to love to communicate with me. The disk pointer was very fast whenever I used it.

[noxtwice]

Have any if you had positive or negative experiences with the Quiji board.? I was never allowed to use it as a kid and it freaks me out to use it now.... I'm just curious.

i owned and used one when i was 16. i ended up with an entity named "bobby" following me around for many years. i ignored it for the most part as it seemed harmless until i had my first son and bobby would leave welts and bruises on my child in the middle of the night. sometimes my son would wake me in the middle of the night to ask me to tell "the little boy in my room to stop talking so i can sleep."

his "visits" with my son became increasingly violent until i had a banishing performed.

me personally, i'll stay away from a spirit board like it's the plague. my experience was nothing but negative.

[Darbla]

I've tried several times with my Psychic Circle board, but the planchette never moved. I was alone though, and I've never heard of it working with just a single person.

Aleister Crowley used one and there's a book about it: "Aleister Crowley and the Ouija Board". A couple other books are "Ouija" by Stoker Hunt and "My Friend, the Ouija Board" by Virginia Kent Roberts. Ms. Roberts claims 30 or so years in the occult field and gives instructions on keeping safe in her book. The book by Stoker Hunt tells more of the negative stuff.

Darbla

[MankyCat]

Have any if you had positive or negative experiences with the Quiji board.? I was never allowed to use it as a kid and it freaks me out to use it now.... I'm just curious.


All my experiences were positive in their own ways.

[Knate]

Heres a link,

http://www.toysrus.com/sm-ouija-board-glow-in-the-dark--pi-2266493.html


"Recommended Age: 8 - 15 years"


Awww I'm too old.

[Joe Malik]

For a few years one of my best friends was found strictly through a Ouija board. He called himself (or itself) "Piki", and had strong opinions on most subjects. His opinions were usually very close to mine, so we got along fine . . . we would discuss everything from the Watergate trials to Love Story . . . I wish more people on this planet were as interesting as Piki.

[Joe Malik]

I'm not making that up.

[H.P. Dolamite]

So..

Wheres Piki now?

[H.P. Dolamite]

Ahh...must have gone to look for him.

[Teresa]

I have not used one since childhood / late teens. We were so scared we threw the board out. The next day it was back in the house and no one in the family brought it back in. I told Grand what happened and why we threw it out. She did some cleansing and gave us a lecture on messing with things we are not experienced enough to use.

Later on in my teens she actually took the time to demonstrate the proper way to use one and what precautions should be taken. Since I was already a magnet in my earlier years for spirits I believe what she did was proper until I could handle other things.

Our board was handmade I believe by a great aunt. It was beautiful.

[Joe Malik]

So..

Wheres Piki now?

Piki slowly started not responding around the time Raygun got into the Casa Blanca - I'm not sure if it was connected or not, but Piki did like Carter better.

[H.P. Dolamite]

Piki slowly started not responding around the time Raygun got into the Casa Blanca - I'm not sure if it was connected or not, but Piki did like Carter better.

Same thing that happened to my pet lemur, except for the parts about the Raygun, and the Casa Blanca.

[Lyrien]

I've had loads of experiences with them. Most for the possitive, but some creepy stuff slipped in. I haven't used one on 12 or 13 years becasue of a super creepy incident.

My mother has used them quite a bit as well, but like me, not recently.

I'd have to say the most dramatic event was actually locating the grave of someone that we spoke with thru the Ouija. We all just kind of fell silent, no one had any expectation of actually locating the grave.

[Darbla]

Later on in my teens she actually took the time to demonstrate the proper way to use one and what precautions should be taken. Since I was already a magnet in my earlier years for spirits I believe what she did was proper until I could handle other things.

Our board was handmade I believe by a great aunt. It was beautiful.
I hope you won't mind my asking, but what proper way and precautions did she teach?

[Darbla]

I just read "My Friend, The Ouija Board" in about 30 minutes and was pretty disappointed. Another board I used to be on wouldn't allow us to negatively review books (so much for freedom of speech), and not knowing how it is here at this board I won't go into details. But save your money.

But as soon as I finished that one I started "Aleister Crowley and the Ouija Board", and this one has potential. In the intro, it talks a bit about how the spiritualist movement and the fact the board was marketed as a child's game hurt it's rep, but then it says:
"However, there is a major difference between the board's application amongst Spiritualists and its use by Magicians that can be summed up by a single word: Will!.......From the start it is important for you, the reader, t distinguish between the simple children's game, Spiritualism's usage, and Aleister Crowley's approach to this subject...".

So if AC, reportedly the greatest magician and occultist in recent history, found use for it, then why not us?

The first chapter of the book intro's Grady Louis McMurtry (1918-1985) as the previous world leader in the OTO and a student of AC. The author mentioned the Ouija to Grady and Grady stressed it was not to be used casually, and "a talking board utilizes the same angelic principles practiced by the Elizabethan magician John Dee (1527-1608). The board could be used to summon Enochian or lower elemental forces, which, as any true magician will attest can be very dangerous if left unchecked. Grady further pointed out that John Dee looked into the invisible realms, known as Aethyrs, through the use of a cyrstal ball. Here the angels appeared and communicated their messages by pointing to one letter at a time on huge boards of letters.
The same principle, he said, holds true for the talking board, but, instead of going within the realm of the angels, we bring the entities out into our world to communicate in the same fashion, allowing them to move the triangle from one letter to another to spell out messages. Enochian magick is so unique that it comes with a warning that no one should dabble in its affairs unless extremely well-versed in the subject. Even non-believer who have attempted experiments have had strange if not dangerous things happen to them. Like the Ouija board, it doesn't matter whether you believe in the system or not; it simply works.
However, intellectually what many individuals achieve through their Enochiam workins is frighteningly similar to what is usually obtained when using the board as a parlor game." The book indicates that Grady believes it is a dangerous device, since it easily opens doorways to worlds we don't understand. "The Ouija board is well known for causing such tragedies as obsessions and possessions, hauntings, or the unleashing of terrifying poltergeists. It is an instant portal into the lower astral plane. Yet these types of manifestations prove beyond a shred of doubt that the board is capable of bridging the invisible world with out own." He goes on to say "The ability to utilize the board correctly is determined by one's magickal and spiritual training", and instead of blacklisting it we could attempt a serious understanding of it. It is "simply a magickal instrument that can be used correctly or incorrectly", and "if you believe in the fears that the board is the archetype of pure evil, you'll miss out on the wealth of rewards that can be achieved through its use."

Chapter 2 is all history, which I'm not going into here.

Chapter 3 begins about the planchette, and how the traditional triangular shape is best. Israel Regardie, another AC student, wrote: "By a programme of Evocation...the spirits or subconscious powers are called forth from the deep, and, giving them visible shape in the Triangle of manifestation." It goes on with other examples of triangles being used in evocations and states this has been around for centuries. "The triangular planchette is such a unique archetypal symbol that it automatically acts as a doorway when used in a specific setting designed to accomplish such results. When one asks 'Is Someone there?' even when only playing a game, it becomes a simplistic but nevertheless magical command for the closest entity to be summoned through the portal." OK, I'll take their word for it.

Aha! Here's a tidbit we may can use:
"To be safe, one should always animate the board by evoking the entity into the triangle, or planchette, and then commanding it to remain there thoughout the ritual."

There's quite a bit of further discussion on the difference between evoking and invoking and how we should stress evoking into the planchette, questions of whether the communications are from within us or from external entity and why does it matter anyway, and quotes from a book by Mrs. Hester Travers Smith called Voices From The Void. The author seems to put stock in this lady's experiences with the board, and one quote from her is "With caution and wisdom much may be achieved" (this was stated in a positive light). "Crowley points out, 'There is....a good way of using this instrument to get what you want...so that undesirable aliens cannot interfere with it."

On the discussion of whether it's us moving the planchette or an external entity: has anyone tried using one of these blindfolded? Wouldn't that answer that question beyond doubt? Since there's often a person present writing down the letters and numbers the board indicates, this person could sit close enough to the board to be sure they saw everything, and could read the answers to the people touching the planchette.

Chapter 4 says what we call ghosts are really "shells", and that entities can inhabit and animate these shells, and that "literally means they become that which you are seeking". Also they are "tricksters" and "perfom astonishing impersonations". Maintaining control of these is a must.

Chapters 5 & 6 are about Enochian and 5 concludes with this relevant quote: "Very little of his (John Dee's) manuscripts are required to study in order to make the system (Enochian) work effectively---the system is not importanit in the immensity of all its old aeonic literature, but in the simplicity of its usage in the new aeon (our current age). The same holds true when using the Ouija board."

Chapter 7 begins with an explanation that we are solar beings, and the dark non-solar beings feed on our life-energy and the human nervous system. This is why some beings quickly and eagerly communicate with you thru talking boards. From the book, "it gains its strength" by feeding on this life-energy and "...they soak up vitality from the sitters...". As evidence of this, "Every Medium will attest to the fact that after communicating with the spirit world they become very tired or drained........ absorbed by an invisible entity." I'm dubious about that as it seems I've read some reports of talking board use where the participants were jazzed up afterward, but whatever. The book goes on to warn the entities don't know when to stop and can drain you too much, unless you maintain strict control. "....(they) are not evil by nature. They are simply fulfilling their needs as any creature would, visible or invisible." And if you call them up and then don't feed them, then they roam your house searching for a host for food. :O

That said, there are easy alternatives to offer as food, such as "flowers, food or drink, or even sexual fluids on a specially prepared altar". "Some voodoo rituals or similar methods should be carefully studied as they give excellent examples on how this can be achieved." I have seen examples of that before, so I can go along with that. It goes on to say this altar is "simply ...a designated spot where only things pertinent to the elemental are placed" and it's sacrilege if anyone else touches this altar. This is well and good but there's not really a spot in my home where I can be 100% safe that nothing and no one else will venture there. I'll have to give this some more thought.

Ch. 7 goes into some Qabalistic info that I can't figure how to summarize here, and there's some more on feeding the elementals.

to be continued....

[Brónach Druid]

My friends and I were "playing" with a Ouiji board when I was 17 and it told me I would marry my husband, very specifically. I met him about 3 months later. Oddly he and his best friend were using a Ouiji board when he was 16 or 17 and it told him he would marry someone with my first name. He didn't know anyone with that name at the time so he just dismissed. Could just be coincidence...maybe not.
The other experiences I have had were a little spooky. I wouldn't say negative though.

[SailleSeeker]

I used my birthday money to buy the Parker Brothers one when I was around 10 or 11 - we brought it home and my mom and I set it up in the living room. It was evening and we were bored and didn't really know what to ask; we realized that it was nearly time for the lotto numbers to be announced on tv. So we asked, offhand, if "it" (whatever "it" was... didn't even know what we were talking to) would tell us the lotto numbers.
It gave us the Pick 3, Pick 4, and the big numbers, all correct and in order.

And we put it away in the basement, then took it to my grandmother's house a few years later, where it's still in her garage somewhere.... we got totally creepified.
And yet, sometimes I definitely wish I'd had a lotto ticket :)

[Shanti]

It can be used for fun and as a form of entertainment but it also can be a divination tool just like any other tool one may use.

[GothGuy806]

I've never used a Quiji board - but I've always wanted to. I don't know where to get one though.. most of the Corperate stores like Walmart have banned them (well in my city anyway)

[redbint]

Aren't you supposed to destroy/burn the board after use? Also are they the same as contact boards? Coz I once had a friend who made a 'contact' board and sealed it with pigs blood (and sellotape!) that she got from the local butchers!

[H.P. Dolamite]

Coz I once had a friend who made a 'contact' board and sealed it with pigs blood (and sellotape!) that she got from the local butchers!



Huh?!

[moonshadow24]

I used to have a ouija board and I got results with it. I used it with others and by myself. One nite,I was told I was talking to a little boy whose Mother killed him and he said he lived in New Mexico. Then I was told I was talking to a 30 year old 'demon'. Skeptikal about that one. I also asked if there is a heaven and hell and I was told no. I don't believe in the fire and brimstone hell Christians believe in anyway. But I asked where we go when we die and it kept spelling out something that started with an M and it was really long and not really a word. I gave the board away a long time ago.


BB,
Michelle

[Darbla]

Continuing from a post above....

Chapter 8 discusses sun signs at the time of your Ouija ritual: "In addition to the date, your (record you'll keep of this ritual) should also list the Sun sign, as well as the zodiac sign in which the Moon is at the time of the working." It goes on to say that combinations of these that are contentious may be responsible for how some elementals escape into our plane and wreak havoc, while more harmonious combinations of those keep the session and afterwards stable. "As as example, if you were born a Cancer then some of the signs best suited for you are Scorpio, Pisces, Taurus and Virgo. The rest are more neutral except for two: Aries and Libra. These could prove to be very difficult. With Capricorn, being the polar opposite of your Sun sign, there could be a great attraction toward it along with tension."

Note: this book states that ALL entities you're communicating with thru a talking board are elementals. They inhabit the "shells" of people left on this plane to give you the impression they are what we call ghosts of people, or they can manifest in just about any form they choose.

[MankyCat]

Note: this book states that ALL entities you're communicating with thru a talking board are elementals. They inhabit the "shells" of people left on this plane to give you the impression they are what we call ghosts of people, or they can manifest in just about any form they choose.


The Note is interesting, but I would have to say I disagree.

The Zodiac stuff is also pretty interesting.

[Darbla]

Yuli, there are some things in this book that are just hard to swallow. For example, from page 101: "Remember, the elemental by nature is a lying spirit and learns this trait from you." I mean...... whaaaa?!?? But as is going to be the case with every metaphysical book out there, there will be statements in it that can't be proved. So you either take the author's word for it or choose to ignore it.

Darbla

[MankyCat]

But as is going to be the case with every metaphysical book out there, there will be statements in it that can't be proved. So you either take the author's word for it or choose to ignore it.

Darbla


Exactly. :)

But it is an interesting read and is worth pondering over. Thanks for sharing it.

[Darbla]

Continuing....

Chapter 9, along with general theory as in the rest of the book up to this point, gives some specific practices done in rituals, and then Ch. 10 is a complete ritual for invoking an elemental of Earth of Earth using the 5th Enochian call with the god name CABALPT. It also spells out the Lesser Banishing Ritual of the Pentagram that you are to use if you end up needing to banish. The Appendix after Ch. 10 is some lessons from Aleister Crowley with the LBRP fully explained, rather than the quick version given in Ch. 10.


Reading this book, and other talking board info, was my research before getting serious about Ouija/talking boards in general. This afternoon I posted an open invitation with a couple local metaphysical groups to contact me if they'd like to start a study group on talking boards. Hopefully I can get something going and have some results worth posting here on MW.

Darbla

[MankyCat]

Hopefully I can get something going and have some results worth posting here on MW.


I look forward to reading it. :)