Possession

[SilverNightShade]

So for any of you who know anything about possession, what kinda of things (herbs, crystals, etc) are good to prepare myself?

I'm not talking about the Biblical possession. My friend is possessed by several different entities and we are trying to rid them but i'm new to the possession thing and need help.

We did some work last night but didn't get too far. We're going to pull together another night and finish it, but i want to be prepared. Please help and thank you in advanced.

[Lunacie]

Possession is actually rather rare, especially possession by more than one entity at the same time of just one person. What makes you - and your friend - believe this is the case?

[Meadhbh]

Well first let me say , don't do anything stupid. But some how I don't think thats going to work, so heres what I would do.

Apply essential oil of frankincense to the crown of the head, the forehead, the back of the neck, the throat, the palms of the hands and soles of the feet. Use individual drops of undiluted essential oil for this purpose. Now add some essential oil of frankincense to freshly drawn water. Using a white cloth bathe all the above body parts, as well as the genital area. Repeat psalm 145 throught the entire ritual.

Critters seem to hate smell of frankincense and while I'm not a big fan of the bible either you'll be drawing on the belief of countless other people that its words are holy. That gives it the extra edge you may need. And if its not what you think it is no real harm will come to them.

[BlueMoon13]

Possession is actually rather rare, especially possession by more than one entity at the same time of just one person. What makes you - and your friend - believe this is the case?

Also, is the possession constant, or intermittent?

[Teresa]

So for any of you who know anything about possession, what kinda of things (herbs, crystals, etc) are good to prepare myself?

I'm not talking about the Biblical possession. My friend is possessed by several different entities and we are trying to rid them but i'm new to the possession thing and need help.

We did some work last night but didn't get too far. We're going to pull together another night and finish it, but i want to be prepared. Please help and thank you in advanced.

The Best Advice that I can give you is to seek the aid of someone experienced in the matter at hand. This is not anything to play with. This is not to say that You can't help the person who has alot of experience in this area . You can ignore me if you wish , it is just a deep conviction of mine to let those a little less experienced know that things can go wrong in a major way if You do not fully know what you are doing or getting into.

[Taliesyn]

Shalaye is 100% right. find a professional, or maybe one of us can help.

[Simply Puzzled]

My friend is possessed by several different entities

How do you know?

What type of entities?

Why do they need to be removed?

Are you sure they are not manifestations of their psyche?

Have you sought the advise of a professional counselor?

What is the history of mental illness in your friend's family?

What allowed them to possess him in the first place?

What will you do if something goes wrong and they possess you?

What will you do if your attempts only piss them off and they entrench themselves deeper?

[SilverNightShade]

they are way more experienced and i'm just there to lend my energy and love. They are way deep, born to old blood! So i trust them, i was just wondering if anyone had any ideas on places of energy to draw from and lend mine more without so much drainage to myself.

Like i said, this isn't biblical. It's another person working against him and i want to help them get rid of this. This is not the first time the other 3 working against the possessor have done this.

[mtpathy]

So for any of you who know anything about possession, what kinda of things (herbs, crystals, etc) are good to prepare myself?

I'm not talking about the Biblical possession. My friend is possessed by several different entities and we are trying to rid them but i'm new to the possession thing and need help.

We did some work last night but didn't get too far. We're going to pull together another night and finish it, but i want to be prepared. Please help and thank you in advanced.


define what it is thats possession, then define what it is that the persons being posessed by, posession isn't something that happens for long periods of time it is like laughing at something unexpected, if you "try" to be possessed you cannot, just like if you try to keep being possessed once you are, then your not.
the "trick" in MOST traditions that use possession is to prolong a exstatic state, just like if while you were walking down the street and a complete stranger squished a cream pie in your face, that state, in that moment, would be the mechanism of posession.
other methods of possession would be by mimicking a entity/gods body language/dance through the act of wearing a mask, imo this works best when you can see your reflection as you mimick that entity, but again this "trick" is learned by continuely prolonging the moment of disbelief that your not "yourself", but the entity/god, which is imo best achieved through prolonging the moment of extacy within the act.
if your trying to "help" someone from not being possessed i would say that the persons not possessed, they are doing this for some reason other and using this as a excuse.

[Teresa]

they are way more experienced and i'm just there to lend my energy and love. They are way deep, born to old blood! So i trust them, i was just wondering if anyone had any ideas on places of energy to draw from and lend mine more without so much drainage to myself.

Like i said, this isn't biblical. It's another person working against him and i want to help them get rid of this. This is not the first time the other 3 working against the possessor have done this.

This is not what I would define as possession.

Is it draining his energy? What is your friend feeling while these people are doing their works against him? If you can give some details then maybe we can steer You in the right direction.

[Pagan Warrior]

My views on possessions are pretty simple ... you are as vunerable as you believe yourself to be.

It has been my observation that most people who are involved in such dramatics are doing so simply to be involved in such dramatics. I'm not saying that is the case, but mtpathy and Lunacie have a couple valid points.

[Infinite Grey]

they are way more experienced and i'm just there to lend my energy and love. They are way deep, born to old blood! So i trust them, i was just wondering if anyone had any ideas on places of energy to draw from and lend mine more without so much drainage to myself.

Like i said, this isn't biblical. It's another person working against him and i want to help them get rid of this. This is not the first time the other 3 working against the possessor have done this.


Anyone that knows what they're doing won't discount invoking YHWH... despite that whole "pagan pride" thang.

[Rudas Starblaze]

so theres 3 other people casting on this individual eh? cast back. be malevolent, dont hold back, make their pets die, make them lose their jobs, hell, even snip their threads of life if you have to. kill em all, let the gods sort em out. attack the damn source of the problem.

[Rick]

Anyone that knows what they're doing won't discount invoking YHWH... despite that whole "pagan pride" thang.
Have to disagree. I know what I'm doing, & I discount invoking YHWH (if someone else wishes to do so, go for it, but it ain't happenin' at my re-possession). No "pagan pride" involved, just no hypocricy on my part.

SilverNightShade, sounds like your friend is more in need of a protection or a shielding or maybe even a reflection spell. In any case, good luck, & please keep us updated.

PS to Rudy: don't hold back, tell us how you really feel... :T

[Infinite Grey]

Have to disagree. I know what I'm doing, & I discount invoking YHWH (if someone else wishes to do so, go for it, but it ain't happenin' at my re-possession). No "pagan pride" involved, just no hypocricy on my part.


I didn't say you SHOULD or NEED too, I said someone who knows what they're doing should discount it. In other words, not be afraid to job the name if one must.

Just sayin'

[~Elise~]

Anyone that knows what they're doing won't discount invoking YHWH... despite that whole "pagan pride" thang.

Hmmm... I know what I'm doing too. I've NEVER invoked YHWH during workings I've done.

I'm siding with Rick on this one.

Elise

[Jolixte]

Anyone that knows what they're doing won't discount invoking YHWH... despite that whole "pagan pride" thang.
I don't know what I'm doing, and I've never invoked it either. :hahugh:

[Infinite Grey]

Hmmm... I know what I'm doing too. I've NEVER invoked YHWH during workings I've done.

I'm siding with Rick on this one.

Elise

-sigh- Just because you haven't needed to, doesn't mean you shouldn't keep it in mind :abored:

But hey, what to I know eh? _happydanc

[Infinite Grey]

I don't know what I'm doing, and I've never invoked it either. :hahugh:

_wedgie_

[TheWanderer]

I went through what some might consider a possession, but I see as more of a molevelancy. Anyway, I employed the use of a friend of mine with visionary abilities, and we were able to "see" the point of origin, and the nasty critter on me (mine happened to be more external at the time, but he has aided me with internal nasties of the "needed to be healed by doctors" sort)
Would something like that be helpful?
I agree with the reflection and shielding as well.
If you know the persons of origin, is it possible to throw the possession back at them? Also, have you just tried talking to them? I know it sounds mundane, but sometimes it actually works. Employ the use of a mediary for this, but don't discount the mundane.
Also, holy water, if you want. Blessed via salt or obtained from a church, or use river/ocean/lake/pond/creek/crick water.

[Cindlady2]

they are way more experienced and i'm just there to lend my energy and love. They are way deep, born to old blood! So i trust them, i was just wondering if anyone had any ideas on places of energy to draw from and lend mine more without so much drainage to myself.

Like i said, this isn't biblical. It's another person working against him and i want to help them get rid of this. This is not the first time the other 3 working against the possessor have done this.

OK, I'm a bit confused here too. Are you saying you are working with experienced people? Or are the ones trying to posses your friend the ones of "old blood"?
I think what you are saying is that there are experienced people to do the actual exorcism but you would like to help. If so, you should ask them what they would like you to do. We all do exorcisms a little different and if you get advice from someone your not actually working with, it could mess up what they do.
Personally, when I work with others on an exorcism I cleanse them, then do a protection spell so nothing can touch them. I then make 2 circles (one inside the other) My "helpers" stay on the outer one and I take the possessed person into the inner one and do my work there. It's important that precautions are taken not to allow what ever is there to "jump"!
Whoever your working with make sure they take similar precautions! If the don't, go elsewhere!

[Teresa]

I went through what some might consider a possession, but I see as more of a molevelancy.
This is more of what I would term it too. "Spirit riding" is a quite common practice in many cultures.
I agree with Rick about a protection and reflection spell. I would probably start with a cleansing ritual and move to a protection work and then a reflection back to the senders .

As far as using the Bible, there are many traditions that do believe there are powerful passages in the Bible that can be used for aiding in magical works. Some people believe that some of the writers that contributed to the Bible were powerful practioners in their time.

[wolf]

Rule out all mundane possibilities first, including full physicial and psychiatric examinations. Make sure all medications are titrated properly, and friend is compliant.

If there is still a problem, only then, go see someone who knows what they are doing.

This is not a do-it-yourself project.

[ModernKnight]

So for any of you who know anything about possession, what kinda of things (herbs, crystals, etc) are good to prepare myself?

I'm not talking about the Biblical possession. My friend is possessed by several different entities and we are trying to rid them but i'm new to the possession thing and need help.

We did some work last night but didn't get too far. We're going to pull together another night and finish it, but i want to be prepared. Please help and thank you in advanced.

If you're new to possession, then you have no business getting involved. I can't force you to back off, but if I were you I'd run as far away from this "friend" as I could. This situation reeks of attention-seeking.

[MankyCat]

I dealt with a possession of sorts... if you can call it that.

This does not sound like a possession. Then again, others have already stated this.

[Rudas Starblaze]

It's another person working against him and i want to help them get rid of this.

***just incase everyone has missed this part of her post.***

its not a possession! its a manipulation! ATTACK THE DAMN SOURCE OF THE PROBLEM!!!!! geez, put up protection if ya want, charms if ya want, whatever, i dont care. but its not going to help the fact that hes being cast against, whoever is doing it will just find another way around it. its just a temporary fix is all any of that stuff will do. attack, attack, attack!! gods! whats the point in calling yourselves "witch", or whatever, if your too chicken shit to grow a back bone and slam it right back into someones face???

[Pagan Warrior]

its not a possession! its a manipulation! ATTACK THE DAMN SOURCE OF THE PROBLEM!!!!! geez, put up protection if ya want, charms if ya want, whatever, i dont care. but its not going to help the fact that hes being cast against, whoever is doing it will just find another way around it. its just a temporary fix is all any of that stuff will do. attack, attack, attack!! gods! whats the point in calling yourselves "witch", or whatever, if your too chicken shit to grow a back bone and slam it right back into someones face???

I would have to agree, if this is an ongoing problem then you need to stop it at the source (it's obviously not going to end). I understand defensive, when I fight or spar I do so very defensively, but when that opportunity for offensive opens you hit hard, you hit fast, and you do not stop until your opponent stops advancing. Tai Chi will teach you there is a balance to everything, when someone attacks they leave at least one place open to vunerability. Find that hole and strike back. Like I said before, you are only as vunerable as you believe yourself to be. Visualizations are, IMHO, very important to witchcraft ... put up a shield, protect yourself, and then FIGHT BACK!!!

[Pagan Warrior]

Might I also add, that if this is a big problem, call upon the energy of your brothers and sisters. There's a forum for energy requests ... and there are a lot of people here who care and are willing to light candles, meditate, pray, or simply send positive or defensive energy toward your friend.

[plumedsnake]

Very interesting thread, though I don't think that possession is what is going on.

[Lunacie]

Originally Posted by Rudas Starblaze http://mysticwicks.com/images/buttons/viewpost.gif (http://mysticwicks.com/showthread.php?p=2922495#post2922495)
its not a possession! its a manipulation! ATTACK THE DAMN SOURCE OF THE PROBLEM!!!!! geez, put up protection if ya want, charms if ya want, whatever, i dont care. but its not going to help the fact that hes being cast against, whoever is doing it will just find another way around it. its just a temporary fix is all any of that stuff will do. attack, attack, attack!! gods! whats the point in calling yourselves "witch", or whatever, if your too chicken shit to grow a back bone and slam it right back into someones face???
[/QUOTE]

I have found that a lot of posters only read the original post and respond to it, sometimes going back and reading the other responses afterwards but often not even that. In the OP, SNS was asking aboiut "possession" so that's what the responses were directed to rather than to her later post explaining that it's not a true case of possession. I agree that it sounds like an attack, and not the first time the attacker has tried those tactics, and that returning the spell or spirits to the attacker to deal with is the best defense. I would suggest following it by a Binding.

[Rudas Starblaze]

exactly! thank you Lunacie and Pagan Warrior.

theres a time for defense, and theres a time for attack. if there are 3 people trying to help this guy, then there should be no problems for one to cast protection and the other two to launch an offenseive attack. so to the orignal poster..... git'er done! :yayah:

[ModernKnight]

I have found that a lot of posters only read the original post and respond to it, sometimes going back and reading the other responses afterwards but often not even that. In the OP, SNS was asking aboiut "possession" so that's what the responses were directed to rather than to her later post explaining that it's not a true case of possession. I agree that it sounds like an attack, and not the first time the attacker has tried those tactics, and that returning the spell or spirits to the attacker to deal with is the best defense. I would suggest following it by a Binding.

I disagree. After reading all the posts, I feel there's nothing more magickal here than a cry for attention. In my experience, real attacks are much less common than people want to believe.

[MankyCat]

I have found that a lot of posters only read the original post and respond to it, sometimes going back and reading the other responses afterwards but often not even that. In the OP, SNS was asking aboiut "possession" so that's what the responses were directed to rather than to her later post explaining that it's not a true case of possession. I agree that it sounds like an attack, and not the first time the attacker has tried those tactics, and that returning the spell or spirits to the attacker to deal with is the best defense. I would suggest following it by a Binding.


I read all the posts before posting. But even in her second post she called it a possession (and used the word possessor).

I can't speak for anyone else responding about 'possession', but I know mine was to point out the wrong term is being used.

As for how to get someone to stop attacking her friend... I have to ask...

What did the friend do to warrant the attack? How much do you (original poster) know about the situation? And what has the friend done thus far to stop those who are attacking him/her?

Defending yourself or even attacking back is not hard. The hard part is making sure you know as much as you can about the situation and not go overboard in fighting back or hurt people who really haven't done anything wrong. (All because you call me a jerk doesn't mean I should poke your eye out and accidently blinding your friends in the process. :hahugh: )

[Pagan Warrior]

I read all the posts before posting. But even in her second post she called it a possession (and used the word possessor).

I can't speak for anyone else responding about 'possession', but I know mine was to point out the wrong term is being used.

As for how to get someone to stop attacking her friend... I have to ask...

What did the friend do to warrant the attack? How much do you (original poster) know about the situation? And what has the friend done thus far to stop those who are attacking him/her?

Defending yourself or even attacking back is not hard. The hard part is making sure you know as much as you can about the situation and not go overboard in fighting back or hurt people who really haven't done anything wrong. (All because you call me a jerk doesn't mean I should poke your eye out and accidently blinding your friends in the process. :hahugh: )

Yuli touched on something I've been thinking but wasn't sure the best way to approach ... and that's what your friend did or rather what started this barrage of attacks? In more simple terms, who fired the first shot? These guys must be motived by something in order for them to go through so much effort to cause problems ... I would find out why before you get into anything. Perhaps the attacks are defenses of their own, you don't need to get mixed up on a "blood feud" as it might be. Also be wary of your own Karma, as Yuli put it you don't want to go overboard (if you go at all).

Personally ... being possessed by another person (still living) does seem very odd. this isn't Harry Potter, so I don't think the Imperius curse is the issue (god I'm SUCH a geek sometimes). Anyhow, hopefully you get what I'm trying to say.

[Rudas Starblaze]

Personally ... being possessed by another person (still living) does seem very odd. this isn't Harry Potter, so I don't think the Imperius curse is the issue (god I'm SUCH a geek sometimes). Anyhow, hopefully you get what I'm trying to say.


LMFAO! i was thinking that and "the craft" and "practical magic" was being played out here!:lol:

*steps back out into reality*

[Lunacie]

Originally Posted by ModernKnight> I disagree. After reading all the posts, I feel there's nothing more magickal here than a cry for attention.

After reading all the posts myself, the only posts I've based my advice on were the two posts made by the original poster, who after all is the only one who knows anything about this particular situation.


In my experience, real attacks are much less common than people want to believe.


I agree that metaphysical attacks are about as rare as actual possessions,
but because of my own firsthand experience I don't deny the possibility that something similar is happening to the friend of the original poster.

[Pagan Warrior]

LMFAO! i was thinking that and "the craft" and "practical magic" was being played out here!:lol:

*steps back out into reality*
BAAhahahaha at least I'm not the only one eh?

[Pagan Warrior]

SilverNightShade hasn't responded in 3 pages ... I think she's pretty much done with us LOL

[Vigdisdotter]

-sigh- Just because you haven't needed to, doesn't mean you shouldn't keep it in mind :abored:

Same way I keep Ra in mind. But same as Ra, since it's not a god I work with or am even familiar with, I wouldn't dream of calling on him. I'll stick to the gods I have a strong relationship with.

[Teresa]

A reflection spell would send back what they are sending so basically they would get what they deserved. I prefer these types of spells because the intent of the person doing the attack goes back to them and anything they have sent is returned as well. This also keeps one from over doing something because of their emotions in haste.

[Lunacie]

Originally Posted by Pagan Warrior> SilverNightShade hasn't responded in 3 pages ... I think she's pretty much done with us LOL


I have my options set to show me 40 posts per page, so I'm still on the first page. :lol: Sometimes a page will take days to fill up, sometimes I go to the store and come back to find 3 pages full of posts to catch up on. SNS hasn't posted since last night though, so I wonder if she was too offended by our "fluffy" responses to come back... http://mysticwicks.com/showthread.php?t=146299

[~Elise~]

A reflection spell would send back what they are sending so basically they would get what they deserved. I prefer these types of spells because the intent of the person doing the attack goes back to them and anything they have sent is returned as well. This also keeps one from over doing something because of their emotions in haste.

exactly--also a good realization spell will make the people making the attack realize the pain and suffering that they've caused... plus they get a taste of that medicine, as well.

JMO

[MankyCat]

A reflection spell would send back what they are sending so basically they would get what they deserved. I prefer these types of spells because the intent of the person doing the attack goes back to them and anything they have sent is returned as well. This also keeps one from over doing something because of their emotions in haste.


I've done reflections spells... but usually add a little "pop" at the end... basically, what you send to me will only hurt you more than what you originally meant to do to me. They get the point fast and I'm not overdoing by sending back something bigger. Better a "pop" than a "BOOM". :hahugh:

[Teresa]

I've done reflections spells... but usually add a little "pop" at the end... basically, what you send to me will only hurt you more than what you originally meant to do to me. They get the point fast and I'm not overdoing by sending back something bigger. Better a "pop" than a "BOOM". :hahugh:

I can not lie and say I have never done this. I have done this before and at the time it felt oooooooooooooooo sooooooooo gooddddddddd ! Mine was like what you sent me times 3 ! Let it sting ya where the sun don't shine, remember this and never again mess with me or mine ! I am not very proud of this but I believe they got the point. No issues since.

[Cat]

I've done reflections spells... but usually add a little "pop" at the end... basically, what you send to me will only hurt you more than what you originally meant to do to me. They get the point fast and I'm not overdoing by sending back something bigger. Better a "pop" than a "BOOM". :hahugh:


Cool. How do you add the pop? Is there any particular thing you do?

[MankyCat]

Cool. How do you add the pop? Is there any particular thing you do?

Well... the simplest way I can explain it is...

However you picture the energy being sent to you, you send it back on the same path (a basic reflection) but magnify it slightly. Kinda like using a magnifying mirror of sorts or magnifying lense (even just mentally).

If you see it like they are sending the energy to you as a ball or bolt, you are sending it back just slightly larger. You can have it increase with each ball/bolt they send you. They are in essence sending you an energy signature which you can use to basically send right back without worry that it will go astray. A friend of mine used to feel it like threads. And the energy would come on those threads in bursts. So... we sent a few slightly magnified bursts back to the individual, using the thread (or energy signature). After a short time, it stopped. Doesn't take a person long to get the hint.

This is a little simpler in explanation that in doing, but I think it gets the idea across.

The beauty is that you are not possibly causing undeserved harm to anyone. If they aren't doing anything, nothing will happen to them. If they are, well... they get what they get.