Mw Oscars

[MistOfTheSea86]

Okay that is SO it, we are having our own oscars. I mean I didnt see a beautiful mind or iris... But LOTR SHOULD HAVE WON DAMNIT and IAN MCKELLEN SHOULD HAVE WON BEST SUPPORTING ACTOR! Well now that I have got that out, it is time for OUR oscars.

Your choices are:

Best Picture
A Beautiful Mind
Gosford Park
In the Bedroom
The Lord of the Rings: The Fellowship of the Ring
Moulin Rouge

Best Director
David Lynch - Mulholland Drive
Peter Jackson - The Lord of the Rings: The Fellowship of the Ring
Ridley Scott - Black Hawk Down
Robert Altman - Gosford Park
Ron Howard - A Beautiful Mind

Best Actor
Denzel Washington - Training Day
Russell Crowe - A Beautiful Mind
Sean Penn - I Am Sam
Tom Wilkinson - In the Bedroom
Will Smith - Ali


Best Actress
Halle Berry - Monster's Ball
Judi Dench - Iris
Nicole Kidman - Moulin Rouge
Renee Zelwegger - Bridget Jones's Diary
Sissy Spacek - In the Bedroom



Best Foreign Language Film
Amelie - France
Elling - Norway
Lagaan - India
No Man's Land - Bosnia and Herzegovina
Son of the Bride - Argentina

Best Original Screenplay
Amelie - Guillaume Laurant & Jean-Pierre Jeunet
Gosford Park - Julian Fellowes
Monster's Ball - Milo Addica & Will Rokos
Memento - Christopher Nolan & Jonathan Nolan
The Royal Tenenbaums - Wes Anderson & Owen Wilson


Best Adapted Screenplay
A Beautiful Mind - Akiva Goldsman
Ghost World - Daniel Clowes & Terry Zwigoff
In the Bedroom - Stephen Gaghan & Todd Field
The Lord of the Rings: The Fellowship of the Ring - Fran Walsh, Philippa Boyens & Peter Jackson
Shrek - Ted Elliot, Joe Stilman & Roger S.H. Schulman


Best Original Song
"If I Didn't Have You" - Randy Newman from Monsters, Inc.
"May It Be" - Enya, Nicky Ryan & Roma Ryan, from The Lord of the Rings: The Fellowship of the Ring
"There You'll Be" - Diane Warren, from Pearl Harbor
"Until" - Sting, from Kate & Leopold
"Vanilla Sky" - Paul McCartney, from Vanilla Sky


Best Animated Short Film
Fifty Percent Grey
For the Birds
Give Up Yer Aul Sins
Strange Invaders
Stubble Trouble

Best Live Action Short Film
the accountant
Copy Shop
Gregor's Greatest Invention
A Man Thing (Meska Sprawa)
Speed for Thespians

Best Original Score
A.I.: Artificial Intelligence - John Williams
A Beautiful Mind - James Horner
Harry Potter and the Sorcerer's Stone - John Williams
The Lord of the Rings: The Fellowship of the Ring - Howard Shore
Monsters, Inc. - Randy Newman



Best Visual Effects
A.I.: Artificial Intelligence - Dennis Muren, Scott Farrar, Stan
Winston & Michael Lantieri
The Lord of the Rings: The Fellowship of the Ring - Jim Rygiel, Randall William Cook, Richard Taylor & Mark Stetson
Pearl Harbor - Eric Brevig, John Frazier, Ed Hirsh & Ben Snow


Best Supporting Actor
Ben Kingsley - Sexy Beast
Ethan Hawke - Training Day
Ian McKellen - The Lord of the Rings: The Fellowship of the Ring
Jim Broadbent - Iris
Jon Voight - Ali


Best Sound Editing
Monsters, Inc. - Gary Rydstrom & Michael Silvers
Pearl Harbor - George Watters II & Christopher Boyes


Best Sound
Amelie - Vincent Arnardi, Guillaume Leriche & Jean Umansky
Black Hawk Down - Michael Minkler, Myron Nettinga & Chris Munro
The Lord of the Rings: The Fellowship of the Ring - Christopher Boyes, Michael Semanick, Gethin Creagh & Hammond Peek
Moulin Rouge - Andy Nelson, Anna Behlmer, Roger Savage & Guntis Sics
Pearl Harbor - Kevin O'Connell, Greg P. Russell & Peter J. Devlin


Best Animated Feature
Jimmy Neutron, Boy Genius
Monsters, Inc.
Shrek


Best Art/Set Direction
Amelie - Aline Bonetto (Art Direction) / Marie-Laure Valla (Set Decoration)
Gosford Park - Stephen Altman (Art Direction) / Anna Pinnock (Set Decoration)
Harry Potter and the Sorcerer's Stone - Stuart Craig (Art Direction) / Stephenie McMillan (Set Decoration)
The Lord of the Rings: The Fellowship of the Ring - Grant Major (Art Direction) / Dan Hennah (Set Decoration)
Moulin Rouge - Catherine Martin (Art Direction) / Brigitte Broch (Set Decoration)


Best Documentary Short
Artists and Orphans: A True Drama
Sing!
Thoth


Best Documentary Feature
Children Underground
LaLees Kin: The Legacy of Cotton
Murder on a Sunday Morning
Promises
War Photographer


Best Cinematography
Amelie - Bruno Delbonnel
Black Hawk Down - Slawomir Idziak
The Lord of the Rings: The Fellowship of the Ring - Andrew Lesnie
The Man Who Wasn't There - Roger Deakins
Moulin Rouge - Donald M. McAlpine


Best Costume Design
The Affair of the Necklace - Milena Canonero
Gosford Park - Jenny Beavan
Harry Potter and the Sorcerer's Stone - Judianna Makovsky
The Lord of the Rings: The Fellowship of the Ring - Ngila Dickson & Richard Taylor
Moulin Rouge - Catherine Martin & Angus Strathie


Best Makeup
A Beautiful Mind - Greg Cannom & Colleen Callaghan
The Lord of the Rings: The Fellowship of the Ring - Peter Owen & Richard Taylor
Moulin Rouge - Maurizio Silvi & Aldo Signoretti


Best Film Editing
A Beautiful Mind - Mike Hill & Dan Hanley
Black Hawk Down - Pietro Scalia
The Lord of the Rings: The Fellowship of the Ring - John Gilbert
Memento - Dody Dorn
Moulin Rouge - Jill Bilcock


Best Supporting Actress
Helen Mirren - Gosford Park
Jennifer Connelly - A Beautiful Mind
Kate Winslet - Iris
Maggie Smith - Gosford Park
Marisa Tomei - In the Bedroom

[shnen]

Hey, I loved Moulin Rouge... it didn't get enough credit at all...
I don't watch those shows to save me from throwing things at my tv!

[Nect]

I KNOW! LOTR and Moulin Rouge shoulda gotten more awards! The fact that Baz Luhrman didn't get nominated for Best Director was just absurd! But, heh, well, I haven't seen A Beautiful Mind yet...so better shut up for now.

The moment Halle Berry was up there, I felt like *I* was getting the award or somethin' :lol: ! That was such a moving moment...historical, too.

Nect

[Niamh]

While Russell Crowe may not have necessarily deserved the Oscar, I wanted to see him get it because, well... LOOK AT HIM!!!;)

I agree, LOTR should have won more... such as best supporting actor.

[shnen]

I didn't watch, so I have no idea what it was like when Halle Berry won...

I haven't seen a beautiful mind either, or LOTR... they have been on my list for a while!

[Chibi-Fallon]

I'm so glad Moulin Rouge didn‘t win! I hated that movie! It's so stupid that people think it's "artistic". They writers were gonna quit so they used a tried plot, and songs from the 70's. A nice way to make sure they didn’t need writers. ;)
A crack addicted caterpillar that's sugar high could have come up with something better. And everyone seems to think the fact that they can sing makes up for the fact that the movie sucks. I don’t understand how that works. If they couldn’t sing they would have gotten someone who could so it’d sound the same anyway.
If I gave you crack, flashed lights in your face and sang at you would you give me an Oscar?

[Topazz]

Naw, I'd give you a Wet Raspberry Award. :razz:
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:)

[Chibi-Fallon]

As much as I hate him. How cool is it that Tom Green accepted his Razzies? :D

[MistOfTheSea86]

Originally posted by Chibi-Fallon
I'm so glad Moulin Rouge didn‘t win! I hated that movie! It's so stupid that people think it's "artistic". They writers were gonna quit so they used a tried plot, and songs from the 70's. A nice way to make sure they didn’t need writers. ;)
A crack addicted caterpillar that's sugar high could have come up with something better. And everyone seems to think the fact that they can sing makes up for the fact that the movie sucks. I don’t understand how that works. If they couldn’t sing they would have gotten someone who could so it’d sound the same anyway.
If I gave you crack, flashed lights in your face and sang at you would you give me an Oscar?

Actually I felt it was a wonderful movie, their song "Come what may" Was one of the most amazing pieces of music I have heard. BEsides, a certain amount of creativity was needed to create that movie. That and an imagination. This coming from a hopeless romantic. Nonetheless, you will need a bit more evidence then just saying that it had no plot. Because it obviously did have one and it was one of irony.

[Chibi-Fallon]

If Moulin Rouge had been made by a small independent company and maybe shown at Sundance or not even there I'd be agreeing with you. But it was made by a huge corporation that doesn't give a crap what you think as long as you see the movie. They didn't make this movie for it's "ironic" plot. They made it so you'd pay $8 to go see some stupid chick flick. The dumbest since "Everafter". But people buy that crap. I'd rather go see a classic Woody Allen movie myself. They both are completely ridiculous but in one you're supposed to be laughing at it. But "Moulin Rouge" made a great "Springtime for Hitler". :D That was the best thing about it.
And I called the movie from the previews! But if you think that's ironic... What are you finding so ironic about it?
But you know what would have been really ironic? If they had not fallen in love! A movie where no one falls in love. I think we'd all up and have a heart attack. They're different genders so it couldn't be a buddy flick. What would we do?
"Come What May"? Where are the barf bags? :sick:

[Nect]

MistOfTheSea86 wrote
Actually I felt it was a wonderful movie, their song "Come what may" Was one of the most amazing pieces of music I have heard. BEsides, a certain amount of creativity was needed to create that movie. That and an imagination. This coming from a hopeless romantic. Nonetheless, you will need a bit more evidence then just saying that it had no plot. Because it obviously did have one and it was one of irony.

ditto. I didn't like it the first time I saw it, but after I saw it the second time, I saw for another few more times! I loved that film! "Come what may" was a beautiful piece - I'm no scholar in music, but it appealed to my ears very much. And, all in all, I thought Moulin Rouge was a STUNNING production that caught the audience off guard, in a good way, that is. Chibi-Fallon, from what you wrote, all I can say is that you refused to let yourself indulge the movie's fantasy. I resisted it at first because it was just so different and dramatic. But *that* resistance was what, I think, Baz Luhrmann (sp?) wanted to kick down. Well, I thought he did a fabulous job, but the inherent theme/plot/setting were made in a way that audiences would either love it to death or hate it to death - I'm definitely the former.

Nect

[Nyx]

I don't understand your argument. First you say the movie was bad, because it possed an old tired story line, and little to no plot, but then you go back and say it would have been a fine film, if only it had been made by an independent film maker. Exactly what is your point?

I do agree with you on one point, it did not deserve to win best picture. However I don't really follow you're argument. A bad movie can't just become "good" because some small indy company made it.

[MistOfTheSea86]

Originally posted by Nyx

I don't understand your argument. First you say the movie was bad, because it possed an old tired story line, and little to no plot, but then you go back and say it would have been a fine film, if only it had been made by an independent film maker. Exactly what is your point?

I do agree with you on one point, it did not deserve to win best picture. However I don't really follow you're argument. A bad movie can't just become "good" because some small indy company made it.

I concur it didn't deserve best picture, but it was nonetheless a good movie that was done well. It is just not for some people, which is a response I can understand. But calling others stupid for liking it is something I do not tolerate and I thought it was incredibly rude of you Chibi-Fallon. I am not yelling at you, I am not disrespecting you, I am merely requesting that you rephrase how you state dissaproval in the future.

[Nyx]

Aww...Mist...:(
I didn't mean for it to sound as if I was calling Chibi stupid, that was very much not my intention. If it came across that way, I do offer my apologises to our fellow readers who may have misunderstood my words, and Chibi. If someone feels the need to PM me, please do so!
I was simply trying to express that I didn't follow what was being said. It didn't make any sense to me, but that does not mean I thought it was stupid. I am sorry it was interpreted that way.

[Flaire-FireStar]

First of all, my arguement, if that's what you want to call it, isn't that great because I only bothered to go see LoTR.... The others really didn't interest me, so why bother waste the 5 bucks (I go on cheap night) to see a movie I don't want to see in the first place. And to be quite truthful, usually I don't care who wins or not, it's just another big publicity thingie that millions of people watch and "ooh" and "ahh" at the celebrity's clothing. :rolleyes: Give me an action flick and I'll watch part of it, but chick flicks just aren't my thing. :(

However, I am glad that Halle Barry won, many congradulations to her!

[Nyx]

Huh, I really never saw it as a chick flick. I hate chick flicks. But I liked, yes, liked, Moulin Rouge. *scary*

This reminds me of when I got tricked into reading a romance novel...:rolleyes:

[Flaire-FireStar]

Maybe it was just me that saw it as a chick flick. I dunno, it just didn't seem like anything else from the trailers I saw.. ;)

[flar7]

would vote Beautiful Mind as best picture, woulda like to have
seen some of the others. LOTR was good, but it didnt have the
emotion or character of BM. LOTR was an awesome spectacle and
hence the win for Cinematography, but it wasnt as intellectually or
emotionally satisfying for me. You go knowing that its long, it
ends where you expect it to(if you are familiar with it) It is like
an unfinished story(which it is) Probably why it didnt win. I like
Denzel and all that(fallen rocked) but Crowe did better in his role.

[Niamh]

I adore Russll, and I would have voted for him. But I've got a lot of theater friends who disagreed. I don't act, so as far as technical skills, I try to listen to them! Granted, it's all opinion, etc. etc.

And I was thrilled that Ron Howard won! That made me quite happy.



I just, quite simply, didn't like Moulin Rouge. I really don't like Baz Luhrman movies (sorry if I spelled that wrong!). Not my kind of thing. And, as they say, to each his/her own!

[Chibi-Fallon]

Originally posted by Nyx
Aww...Mist...:(
I didn't mean for it to sound as if I was calling Chibi stupid, that was very much not my intention. If it came across that way, I do offer my apologises to our fellow readers who may have misunderstood my words, and Chibi. If someone feels the need to PM me, please do so!
I was simply trying to express that I didn't follow what was being said. It didn't make any sense to me, but that does not mean I thought it was stupid. I am sorry it was interpreted that way.
All my life people have been real touchy about other's calling me stupid. I don't know why. I think it's because I am, and they just don't want me to know. ;)
But seriously, I didn't think you were calling me stupid. And even if you had been I really don't mind. I've been called worse.
Anyway we can come to a compromise. Moulin Rouge is the best movie ever, if you're on acid. 8O Then it's the best movie ever made. ;) With Yellow Submarine a close 2nd.
But if anyone wants to read a really good book "A Beautiful Mind" is a great read (yes, it is a book). His schizophrenia got way worse then in the movie.
How cool was Woody Allen? I loved his piece. He was a great guy to do the New York thing. He's so funny. I love that man.

[Niamh]

I thought Woody was great, too! He's always good for a laugh.

I also thought Beautiful Mind (by Sylvia Nasar) was a fabulous book. It's amazing what John Nash went through, what he and his wife went through together, etc. Amazing.