how dare he?

[johenn123]

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[Lunar Raven]

Well...I guess you don't hate him, if you're worried ;).

It's probably just threats...but if you think he's serious, maybe you should contact someone?

[johenn123]

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[Djiril]

Is there a counselor at your school who you can talk to about this?

[HungryJoe]

Maybe these are the first warning signs of depression. If he is seeing people as "property", talks suicidal and then becomes "happy" (I assume this is just a front) when confronted about it makes me think that these are the signs of depression. He should see a professional and I suggest being a friend but don't ever let him guilt you into anything else. You seem to be rather smart for your age because you can distinguish the difference between "love" and Love. Some adults can't do that yet.

Anyhow, good luck!

[angle kitsune]

okay seeing as I have a dear friend that has ben like for two years. in 8th grade she was acting very much the same was as your friend. most likely he will not fallow through with it as long as he is talking about it and telling his friends about it and you can bipass telling the school counsler about it and take it up with his parents and with your parents. Schools don't tend to take it for real, just us stupid teens ya know. they tend to treat it like we don't know what we are talking about. If you are really worried then take it to sociel services and tell them and if he cuts and they see the cuts they can force him to get the help he needs if his parents wont get it for him or don't have the moeny for it. But I could be wrong about your school, all I know is my friend got to a point where she stoped talking about it and was cutting more. I told the school meny times and she went through with it. She is lucky and some one came in befor she had enough time to bleed to death. I know thats not a good story, not a happy one but it shows that even though he is not at a point now where its that bad but the best thing is to nip it in the bud. Best of luck to you and your dear friend.

[Djiril]

you can bipass telling the school counsler about it and take it up with his parents and with your parents. Schools don't tend to take it for real, just us stupid teens ya know. they tend to treat it like we don't know what we are talking about.

The reason I suggested that is because a counselor would be removed from the situation and (hopefully) trained to deal with this kind of thing. Parents can be pretty unpredictable in situations like this and don't always handle them well. A good counselor will take it seriously as both a suicide threat and a situation where someone is trying to manipulate you.
Not to say that high school counselors are always good counselors, but it is at least worth finding out.

[angle kitsune]

The reason I suggested that is because a counselor would be removed from the situation and (hopefully) trained to deal with this kind of thing. Parents can be pretty unpredictable in situations like this and don't always handle them well. A good counselor will take it seriously as both a suicide threat and a situation where someone is trying to manipulate you.
Not to say that high school counselors are always good counselors, but it is at least worth finding out.


High school counselors are not trained to deal with some thing like this nore are middle school counselors trained for it even though most teens start down this road dearing the 7th grade. And if I am wrong I'm sorry I am only going on how things are in my Distrect, ASD. here we have ONE trained counselor to deal with this kinda thing in every highschool and one going between all the middle schools. getting time with them is very hard. Now the regular school counselors that every student is given really has NO trainin most of the time becuse they tend to deal with problems turning in homework,failing grades, skippin classes or problems with what classes you have and when they are. Most counselors worked as teachers befor hand and when moved to counseling they are givin just trainin on what they will see most of the time. my counselor happens to be my old teacher from 7th grade math. 90% of the time they will just tell the parents. Now telling the parents yourself kinda a maybe thpe choice. If the parents and the said friend have a good relashenship then tell them if they don't then maybe not such a good idea. if the parents and the kid are not on good terms and you know where child safty office is go there,take your friend there. If some one even says a kid is in danger at home,from them self or from someone else they HAVE to look into it. at least here they do. It really depends on the family who you talk to and if you are not sure then you can do both. Really doing both is what I wish I had done for my friend,she has yet to get the help she needs thanks to her father.

[Malcolm]

Sounds like its time to cut him loose.