For my family

[SilverClaw]

Basically We are having problems with Cloey and Sakuras school. The Counsoller has over stepped her boundaries and as a result has told the principal things we have no clue where she is basing her information on.

Also where it conerns Cloey she is so scared to go to school because of some offensive remarks that her teacher has made to her before the holidays... as well as bullying from her class mates.

Anyways I will go into more details later but I ask please that you please give us some enrgy to get through this 1 mainly for Cloey and Sakura because I am sure once I get
through with the principal and the counsoller this afternoon they will feel reprecussions over it.

Also please help direct some energy to us getting to the Superindant and getting them removed from the school

Thanks everyone who helps us.

[Xentor]

Sending strength and wisdom to you and yours, (((Hymnia)))

[Brightshores]

Hope everything turns out OK! :hugz:

[DragonsChest]

OMG! A teacher should be better than that. Prayers and energies to you and your kiddos. :hugz:

[Ancient Wisdom]

Lots of energy for you and your babies :hugz: ......More :hugz:

[SilverClaw]

Talk about funny I told Gord just before he left that if anyone approached him teacher, principial or counsoller wise to tell them to back off and that he will not talk to any of them without me present, and just after that a city wide black out occured... I staid home with Sylvan and just before he called to let me know where he was the lights went back on... Thankfully the staff was so busy keeping the kids from panicing that they did not bother Gord. So divine intervention at its best :D

And thank you for the posts Xentor, BrightShores, DragonChest and Anciet Wisdom greatly appreciated.

I will keep you updated as things progress tomorrow :)

Whatever happend to kids just being kids and having fun at school eh?

[SilverClaw]

All the way from Quesnel to Fort ST. John, which means it was almost most of the north part of the province experienced the black out.

[Philosophia]

Sending positive, protective, justice, and comforting energy! :hugz:

[SilverClaw]

Thanks MM :hugz:

[Shadow Dreamer]

see karma

[Teresa]

Dressing a candle !

[SilverClaw]

Well I take comfort in knowing that I am not the only one who is having problems with the counsoller, and the One teacher.... So anyways I will be talking to the principal again in the morning and see how that goes.. if I need to I have a person from my parenting group that will come to the meeting with me and then we will get the school board involved.

And even if the problems resolved I think for Cloeys sake I need to get her out of there. So we will see how it goes tomorrow.

Thanks Shalaye Sabariego :hugz:

[Ferina]

Love and energy headed your way.

[SilverClaw]

Well nothing got done today soo we will get her tomorrow I am feeling alot better now I know that there is problems with the counsollor and it is not jusst me making it up. And at least tomorrow Gord and I will be able to go see The principal together...

And thanks Ferina.

[cloudspanther]

prayers and energies sent.

lady bless,
clouds

[SilverClaw]

Thank you and one thing I do know is I think for Cloeys poor sanity that she will doing the rest of her schoolling for the year at home.

[Zhr Morgana]

see karma

Ditto for me :hugz:

[SilverClaw]

bump I will try to update tomorrow I am just abit shocked at the events of the day I will say that the counsoller best stay away from us...

Please contiue to keep our family in your thoughts thanks,

[BlueEyedWolf]

:hugz: :hugz: :hugz:

[SilverClaw]

You know what I just found out more stuff since the last post and I really would appreciate it If you keep Gord in your thoughts he just went into shock (hypoglacemicmia) And Cloey well please be with her even more so.. she told us more of what the counsollor said and I just cannot believe this crap.. I will explain more in the morning right now I am to shaky to even think straught anymore.

[Shanti]

Sending for you all!!!! Sorry I wasnt here sooner!!!

[SilverClaw]

Shanti thanks for just being here period :hugz:

Just letting you know Gord is ok and thank the god and goddess did not fall asleep.

[Scarlettvixen]

:hugz: and love to you all hun

[DragonsChest]

Thank you and one thing I do know is I think for Cloeys poor sanity that she will doing the rest of her schoolling for the year at home.

That sounds like a very good idea! Blessings to you and yours, and strength. :hugz:

[Lunacie]

I'm so sorry, I was sure hoping you'd land in a better place all around after the move. :hugz: Hugs and helpful energies for you and your family.

[SilverClaw]

Yes Lunacie me to. Once again ask someone for help and it kicks back on me.It is hard to believe this is a school I attended to twice for Kindergrten and grade6 and dam it I cannot believe how much it has changed when it comes to the staff.

[Ptah]

M-tch yn Skhmt, n ka-k s-qdj-t sa-i hru yri mak-t n Gord n-tt ymi.
Sa Pth, Sa Gord, Gord pu Pth, Sa Skhm Sahu.

[wooleybob]

Energy sent..((((((()))))))))..Take care.

[materra]

Warm hugs for you and the family. Universal Energys sent to protect the children from any further harm or emotional distress from any persons. Best wishes for a speedy resolution to this matter.

[SilverClaw]

Thank you everyone I will try to update this thread I just sit here and pull a blank when it comes to typing. I just am kicking myself for once again for trusting someone ..

And in a few days from now I will be deciding what to do next about the counsollor.

[Zhr Morgana]

Counsellor's head on a stick!!!!!
*ahem*
Anyways...lol...you give 'em hell and give it often. The squeaky wheel always gets fixed first, know what I'm saying?

[Shanti]

We're beside you!!

[SilverClaw]

Counsellor's head on a stick!!!!! Uhm I was thinking more of a platter but whatever works I suppose.. I am sorry I am trying to cheer up here but not working and as I promissed here is the up date:

And Shanti thank you :)

Ok so lets start from the beginning I got a call from Nancy asking if I need a bed. Due to the fact I was just waking up from a nap and was under the impression this was the Prinicpal I was talking to I said yes we could. And when I asked why she called and what this was about, she quickly stated that my kids look tired* and she will have someone call me about the bed and hung up.. now since I thought that was rather rude and out of character* for the principal I got rather worried about what was going on and it ticked me off.* and as mentioned at the beginning page due to the black out occured so I did not have to deal with it then. That is a good thing to
*
But that day Gord said the counsollor had cornered him at the entrance way into the foyer and started in on him about the progress of our divorce, asked about the kind of beds the kids slpet on and also about how we should be focussing on parenting instead of animosty towards each other ( which we had none). Another thing is Sakura has issues of insecurites and does not like being away from us but more so Gord and the counsollor got rude to Gord and said the way she acts out and gets upset and is just an act. Sorry I disagree she is very emotional and her feelings are just that hers. Yes she is slowly getting more in control of them but ya there is no act about it,

*Also she did this where there were other people coming in and out, of the school, as well as the two people who do the late slips. So by not asking Gord to go to her office to talk, she has broken confidentiality .. She started in on him right away the kids even witnessed some of this and had to go on without him to get their late slips and Cloey took Sakura to class...

WILL UPDATE MORE right now I have to go get some stuff done.

[Shanti]

A little personal steam..
I hate it when people don't except that some people, be it children or adults are sensitive and emotional creatures!! Dam we cant all be robotic!!!
That's one thing I hate about society these days, feelings are wrong, an illness, or an act!! Grrr, I hate that attitude!!

Ok done now.

That stupid counselor!!! Hey, they still give diplomas in cracker jack boxes?

[BFD_Zayl]

you have my full support, as always. its time like this when an older brother for Cloey or Sakura would come in handy, well...at least with the bullying. as for the school administrator its mostly up to you im afraid. nevertheless you have my best wishes and strength

[yarrow_elfglow]

*huggles* sending energy

[Ancient Wisdom]

Sweet heart, you and your children are permanently in my thoughts, Positive energy has been sent to you all. :hugz:

[AoibhellFaeryMoon]

*hugs* and much support, hon!

Guidance counsellors are never much help. I realized this in 6th grade when this student (he was much older, but still in 6th grade) kept flashing me, and I complaind, and the GC wanted us to be locked in a room together to "talk it out". years later, I found out from someone that he had become a sexual offender and had been convicted of rape. Nice, eh?

Anyhow....getting off topic....


Much hugs, and energy to you in this situation, and to your youngin's as well.

[SilverClaw]

I hate it when people don't except that some people, be it children or adults are sensitive and emotional creatures!! Dam we cant all be robotic!!!
Oh but of course if you show no emotion you must have something wrong with you ... It is like you can never win with these so called professionals.


as for the school administrator its mostly up to you im afraid yes I know and I do not expect it to go easy either.


Guidance counsellors are never much help. I realized this in 6th grade when this student (he was much older, but still in 6th grade) kept flashing me, and I complaind, and the GC wanted us to be locked in a room together to "talk it out". years later, I found out from someone that he had become a sexual offender and had been convicted of rape. Nice, eh? I would have talked it out with a base ball bat .. but that is just me... and ya well that is dumb do not take things like that seriously but pick on something that has no relavance what so ever that is what these idiots seem to do.

Sorry for ranting I am not feeling very well tonight and Gord and Cloey Sylvan have been getting sick... while Sakura and I are just drained...

I am going to be getting things ready for homeschooling and see what paper work is needed... it is so bad that Cloey feels threatned by these two idiots...
And thsi reaffirms that trusting people sometimes sucks.

Oh I think I am going to stop caus eI feel like I am about to rage and rant here and I should try to sleep..

Thank you everyone for the contiued support.

[SilverClaw]

Well we have not heard from the principal again today sooo either she did not do what she said she was going to do or is avoiding us or is busy.... So my daughters will be removed tomorrow from school.
And I tell you when I told Cloey she can start homeschooling as of today I swore I saw the stress just fly off her face :D so I know I am doing the right thing.

[AoibhellFaeryMoon]

You DEFINITELY did the right thing! Have you tried contacting the school board?

[SilverClaw]

I did not hear from the principal all week and then just found out from my mom princiapl told her friday when she picked up Cloey that she is calling social services

SOCIAL SERVICES WTF???? WEll sorry not suprised and ya know to dam bad they want a battle they will get it I just hope I can find a lawyer for this in time.
I could see them being concee... brb

[Shanti]

I did not hear from the principal all week and then just found out from my mom princiapl told her friday when she picked up Cloey that she is calling social services

SOCIAL SERVICES WTF???? WEll sorry not suprised and ya know to dam bad they want a battle they will get it I just hope I can find a lawyer for this in time.
I could see them being concee... brbOMG!!
Time to turn to some fire working from me!!! Social Services...they're incompetent IMO! No, no, you's need more....much, much more energy so this smooths out asap!!!
I'll have a fire working for you hon and the kids, if you wouldn't mind, for a calm, smooth and safe passage through this difficult time.

~big hugs~ meanwhile.

[SilverClaw]

Thank you and ya I am just finding that my mom is starting to say things again contradictory to our phone call so I will not be suprised if she has something to do with it.

And does anyone know where I can find out about Grandparents rights cause when she left a few mintues ago she preached about having the right to know what is going at the school. so ya not surprised if she is behind this crap with socials services anytime she says she has no involvement...

[materra]

Canadian laws are different here, but grandparent have tried in the US to get a legal right to children many times. About the only time they get the "right" is if the parents are found unfit and they are given custody by the courts. Now, social services are by and large, aware that grandparents often have problems with parents. They realize that there are hidden problems and agendas. It is not against the law to not have beds in the US. It is not against the law to raise your child as you believe not as a grandparent may want. They usually want to know if the child is safe, health, fed and clothed or sent to school.

In the US it is against the law to harrass a parent and cause "custodial interference" between a parent and a child by anyone outside of the home the child resides in. The school person is also supposed to keep social service needs confidential. Frankly, with all this rolling together and you realizing that grandmother may be behind all this... I would just get a lawyer and scare the heck out of the school with a confidencialty violation law suit and custodial interference warning with grandmother and the school named as the problems. Good luck with this. Remember, they are supposed to be helping the children not making the situations worse or starting up gossip at school about the kids homelife or alienating them socially. Yes, you can quote me, because by discussing this in public that is what the school has done.

Good luck. Warm hugs to the kiddos and you. Universal energy for their health, safety and feelings.

[Cindlady2]

OH, A BIG GOOD LUCK! to you and the kids!!!!

[SilverClaw]

materra I will explain more in the morning but we are already planning a laywer and not the one my mom was going to help us with either.
And my mom has no rights to the kids despite what she claims all I have to do is explain to the courts about her dangerous behaviour over the past two years or more... I thought things were getting better but I guess I was proven other wise..

Anyways all I know is that I am not going to the meeting on Monday I am going to drop off the withdrawl letter and then go see if legal aid can help us. I really do not see why I should even bother if the principal is not going to be honest with me.

I mean Slandering Gord is one thing but ya know Cloey did not need this. She has been through alot but when she is saying to me she glad that she is out of the school and even tells the prinicpal she is leaving to me that says something.... And I will have you know Cloey keeps telling me that she is really happy about being homeschooled and dam it I have even seen that she is smiling more not so easy to tears... yep I know I did the right thing. But what I want more is to nail the counsollor for the false accusation or implication of Gord Sexually abusing the kids. the principal for not carrying through with the written apology for Gord or getting back to me about why Cloeys teacher did some of the things she did....

And yep still did not hear from my mom all after noon yesterday and will wait to see if we go anywhere with her today.. ya know I use to be a trusting person but each time this happens I just want to go live out in the toolies and say ______________ to soceity in general..

And another thing this has caused is me increased panic attacks and Gords insulin shock I mean really how much more can we go through?

anyways sorry I will try to go to sleep now and talk to you all later, and do you think that if I go to the school board should I make an appointment or just show up there?

Oh and one other thing we are joining a homeschooling group that supports parents and helps them legally if there are problems from public school authorites to change their enrollemtn status...so that is at least one thing in our favour.

[Lares]

What an awful situation the school has put you and your loved ones in. I think the home schooling is an excellent idea. Blessings and positive energy coming your way.

[Lunacie]

:hugz: I'm so sorry, I was sure hoping that a new start in a new place would finally get things going in the right direction for you. Bravo for finding your own lawyer, and yeah just drop off the letter to the principal and don't bother with a meeting - her energy doesn't feel open to anything you have to say because her mind is already made up.

As far as the school board, write them a letter about the problems with the principal, the counselor and the teacher, send it registered mail, tell them that you're coming to the meeting to discuss the problems and the effect it has had on your children - not to mention on you and Gord.

[materra]

Lunacia has given excellent advice. Oh and don't see the school board until you consult with the homeschool staff and your attorney.

Warm hugs...

[SilverClaw]

Bravo for finding your own lawyer, and yeah just drop off the letter to the principal and don't bother with a meeting - her energy doesn't feel open to anything you have to say because her mind is already made up.Yep that is what I was going to do. I feel it would just be a waste and I feel more threatened cause of known the misntry is being called. Cloey is so upset about this, this morning she was in tears about it.

And as for my mom she called this morning and said she did ask the principal what was going on and talked to her and she still will not tell me what was said. So yep I will not be putting any more trust in her. It seems like this is it I have given her chance after chance and I do it for Cloey but I think now Cloey sees why I do what I do....

And yes Lunacie I was hoping for a new start as well but I also knew that this is what could happen when we came back to. Thanks for your advice.

Ok materra thanks I won't then. I will pass this onto Gord as well.

[SilverClaw]

Ok I just talked to Cloey and I guess that The principal is calling Social Services on ME for pulling Cloey out of school. So now this puts some worry to rest but ya she is so upset she said to me that her grandma was even in there and I told Cloey she sould have spoke her mind...

Anyways going to call social services in the morning and see what is going on.
and then drop off the letter.

[SilverClaw]

Update this morning just 15 minutes ago at 8 am I called and left a message for the prinicpal. And I called legal aid and dam it I cannot talk very well due to my throat being so sore and clogged.

Also the letter of witdrawl has just been typed up to.

[SilverClaw]

8:52 AM jut got off the phone with Legal Aid. They cannot help us unless the ministry is involved and so I am not sure what to do now. Still no call returned from the Principal and Gords getting ready to drop the letter off and return the library books of the kids.

I hate sitting here like a pigeon being targetted and not knowing for sure when the next strike is going to land.

[SilverClaw]

Talking to the principal and things look good

[materra]

Remember, Document each call and conversation, who you spoke with and what was said as best you can. Keep a note book. That way you know when you did something and track it for the lawyer. Warm Hugs

[SilverClaw]

Ok so I found out why the principal was going to call Social services and it was basically to try and talk me out of taking Cloey out of school.

But I told her I would talk to Cloey Which I just did to make a final decision. And ya it was a good covnersation I am just glad that I am the type of person who goes to the source and asks what is going on :D

I told her I was hesitant to come in today due to hearing she was going to call Social services and I told her, I do not want to make this into something it does not have to be and she agreed. Her concern was about Occupational threapy through the school and I told her that even out of school we know what services Cloey needs and can get. I also explained to her we have been planning homeschooling Cloey for three years now and we had hoped to wait till the end of this school year to start but due to Cloey being terrrifed of the teacher bullies, in her class, and the counsollor she wanted to be homeschooled now. So we support her decsion and are in a position to do so. Also I guess the other thing is Cloey covers things well at school she seems to be happy and did not think there were problems.

The prinicpal is also worried about Cloey having second thoughts and not being able to come back to school. And that is why I told her I would talk to Cloey

So anyways in an hour I have to call her back to make our decsion known about Cloey and Sakura and then that is that.


So yep anything else comes up I will let you know.

[SilverClaw]

Remember, Document each call and conversation, who you spoke with and what was said as best you can. Keep a note book. That way you know when you did something and track it for the lawyer. Warm Hugs

yes I am that is what I am doing :)

[SilverClaw]

Well Social services ws called and we talked to them about an hour ago.. dam it Cloey ws in tears the poor thing was in tears.