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Sequoia
April 6th, 2002, 06:13 PM
ok here's the problem -

I dont' usually live at my mom's anymore, from reasons spanning from smoking (mom) to pain in the a** brothers to phone line restriction (unfairly) to mother ranting incoherently about the evils of "witches" and Dungeons and Dragons (without reason, the woman is pretty much pagan herself, for the love of kami-sama).

I am here for less than three days, and my little brother begins his rampages. Name calling, fat jokes, harassment, and oh did I mention the gun pressed against my back?

I was fairly certain it wasn't loaded, but still. . . an honest-to-god weapon. He's also shot a bbgun at me and nearly hit me, and has nearly stabbed me with a knife before (it was pure luck - if the knife had been an inch longer and he'd stabbed slightly more to the right, I would've been in the hospital. He was stabbing through a door I was leaning against, I saw marks in the door on both sides later)

what the heck do I do about this, all of this? My little brother's a monster, and I know that he's gonna someday end up in huge trouble, with the police or other kids or what, I don't know. But it's not a good path for him to be on.

My parents won't do anything. My mom yells but my brother yells louder and hits. My dad knows about this but won't do anything. I still dont' really understand why. i'm the one who got lectured the time he nearly stabbed me. And we're not talking butterknife - we're talking big sharp meat cutting knife. I ended up knocking him to the floor, he still had the knife, and I stepped on his head. Disarm him and keep him from hurting me, it was the fastest and best way, better than a knife fight! Yet I was blamed, and chastised and punished because I gave him a slight cuncussion (this is the kid that plays football and gets three or four a year, usually worse than what I did considering he never saw a dr to diagnose it, so. . . ). I got punished for defending myself and he got off scott free, and has since attempted to harm and/or kill me. He has even said he wants to kill me, to both my parents faces, and has said on numerous occasions that he should have killed me before.

what the h*ll am I supposed to do about this? Not only is my life often enough in danger, but then I get blamed for it! And if I try to tell any authority, they tell me to talk to my parents! Who do nothing about it. What am I supposed to do?

Any options, ANYTHING you could tell me, especially that I could tell my mom to try, would help. I really am getting sick of this.

thanks,
Puma

Old Witch
April 6th, 2002, 07:19 PM
Next time it happens, call the police, and after getting him commited and/or jailed, get out of that house and stay out before you get dead!!

Danustouch
April 6th, 2002, 08:52 PM
Yep, what Old Witch said. Puma, it seems you are going to have to deal with living with your dad, as uncomfortable as that may be, or, put up with your brothers terrorism. Unless you call the police on him. And even then, the police will ask why your mother isn't intervening, and they could, if you are under the age of 18, turn you over to social services.

No matter how difficult that may be to face..you NEED to report your brother. If he truly does behave in the manner you've described, he's a danger to you, himself, your mom, and others. And he needs serious psychological help.

Margie
April 6th, 2002, 10:01 PM
How old is your brother? (did you say? I might've missed it) I'm sorry I don't have much advice at all but you do need to remose yourself or him from the situation. I agree with Danus and Old Witch too.

Alphyna
April 6th, 2002, 10:25 PM
I would have to agree. You are 18 right? and he's younger...very disturbing behaviour. My friend just went through a situation with her fiance...a very long....story, he is a good guy, but had some problems. He was threatening to kill her, etc...etc...She called the police one day and now he is straitened out, sometimes people just need a refresher in reality. So many of us don't realize what the law seriously is, and need to be personally reminded that your actions are real, serious and dealy. Why did you go back, (if you don't mind me asking) ?
Please take care of yourself, and know you are beautiful, after all, isn't the Goddess?;)
Sarah

Arduinna
April 7th, 2002, 10:25 AM
I have to agree with the suggestion of calling the police and/or social services. That is assuming your over 18 and he's under.

Of course the best thing you can do is move out of there, for your own safety. Just get out any way you can.

Sorry this is happening.

Yvonne Belisle
April 7th, 2002, 01:44 PM
See the others all agree with what I told you by pm. Be safe and know you have an alternative in november.

Sequoia
April 7th, 2002, 07:00 PM
I'm 17, he's 15. (we're 1 year 11 mos 2 weeks apart. . . exactly 2 weeks short of a year) *sighs* I really. . . I truely am reluctant to call the police. Especially because I worry what my family will think of me.

But I'm starting to think I had better. . .

Yvonne. . . thanks *hugs* in fact, everyone, thank you *BIG HUGS*

Danustouch
April 7th, 2002, 07:48 PM
Well..the way I see it, Puma, is that you are on the verge of being an adult. Adults sometimes have to make decisions which can be painful in the short run of things, and cost them certain feelings of security. However, they know that in the long run, they are doing the right thing. This is of course going to be a difficult thing to do. But it *IS* the right thing. We have to take our safety into our own hands, many times in life. If we don't look out for ourselves, than who will? Your parents dont seem to be looking out for your or your brothers welfare in the situation. So...if you aren't willing to take the pain it will cause in the short run, then you are only allowing yourself greater pain in the long run. And greater pain for your brother, if he doesn't get his head screwed on straight, soon.

Flar's Freyja
April 7th, 2002, 07:53 PM
That is very dangerous behavior, and if he were one of my clients he'd be getting evaluated in a treatment center so fast it would make his head spin. Healthy families admit their problems and seek help. Your parents may not want to face that there's a potential problem. I'd strongly encourage them to have someone evaluate him before something happens that will cause them to regret not dealing with it.

Yvonne Belisle
April 7th, 2002, 11:31 PM
I do not want to see your brother at this site. http://crimelibrary.com

That is the site I read about all the serial killers and whatnots I read about. I understand that you wish to avoid doing anything till you turn 18 and you know that I am behind you in whatever choice you make but at some point he must get help or he will be found on that site. I do not want that to happen watch yourself and be safe no matter what choice you make. I know you have many friends here at Mystic Wicks and we are here for you if you need us but the final call is one you must make.

Flar's Freyja
April 7th, 2002, 11:43 PM
Puma, what state are you in? In Oklahoma, there are several psychiatric hospitals and main hospitals with psych units. We also have Youth Shelters, which keep a kid as respite and provide therapy for the family. They can also help with psychological evaluations. There are also group homes for kids who can't live at home. The Baptist Foundation I believe is in several states, run and funded by Baptist churches, and they are wonderful here. You could try putting "Family and Social Services" for your state into your search engine and see if you can come up with a list of resources. Your brother may simply need medication, or it could be a more serious problem. If your parents won't get him somewhere, maybe you can. Your Child Protective Services office should also be able to help as they are familiar with all of these types of resources in your area.

This is the main site for the United Way. In my area, UW puts out a huge directory of resources each year.

http://national.unitedway.org/index.cfm

Sequoia
April 8th, 2002, 01:06 AM
I live in California.

I talked to my dad. . . he didn't really say anything he'd want to do. . . he told me not to do anything, though. . .

we're thinking about sending my little brother this summer to the Devil Pups. . . it's something run by the marines for young men. . . maybe that would help? Discipline?

Yvonne Belisle
April 8th, 2002, 01:21 AM
It's worth a shot I say go for it!

Flar's Freyja
April 8th, 2002, 01:21 AM
That sounds like a place in our area, The Tulsa Boys' home. It's run like a military school and they do great work. So glad to hear something is happening. Here's the link for your state:

http://www.childsworld.org/

Danustouch
April 8th, 2002, 01:46 AM
But..Puma...if nothing DOES happen, all on it's own, then you STILL have to report your brother if he does it again. Your dad may not be seeing the situation clearly. If the situation occurs again, you really should call the police, with or without your fathers blessing on the subject.

Flar's Freyja
April 8th, 2002, 07:51 AM
And that should let you all off the hook, at least in Oklahoma it would. Law enforcement can take him to a youth shelter or a psychiatric hospital at their own discretion.

LadyWinter
April 8th, 2002, 12:55 PM
Okay I have been dealing with a similar situation....My stepson has been chasing his two stepsisters with knives and guns and hitting them with hammers...one is older than him one is younger...he is 15. The last time it happened (they do not live with us) The older sister who is 17 called the cops. They came and took him away and put him in a treatment facility where he is getting counseling and all the help he needs so that hopefully he will understand why he is doing these things. Your brother needs help period. You cant give it to him...its obvious your mom isnt giving it to him....In my opinion you would be doing him a favor.

Slan Astar,
LadyWinter