Money from ex spell

[Little Angel]

I would like to do a spell to get child support money from my ex as he hasn't paid for 4 months. talked to him about several times and he say the same old thing. and the lack of cash is started to affect me really bad.

firstly is this right?? or is this going in to dark magic

plus im finding hard to write the spell only got as far as doing some thing with candle

so any suggestions i thoughts would me helpful

[Rick]

Do you have court-ordered support? Have you exhausted all the mundane avenues yet? Don't know about the UK, but here in the States there are many government agencies that are only too happy to run a dead-beat parent to ground.

[Little Angel]

here the csa (govenment agency) isn't helpfull at all at the moment theres a big thing about how its messin people about and that the govenment got to set up a new agency.

me and me ex desided to do it between are selfs as the csa took 18 months and lost the paper work several times.

[Rick]

Well then, tell your ex that your child/children need to eat, wear clothes, & have a roof over their heads, & that he's agreed to support them (why in HELL do so many people think that their just givin' money away to their exes? It's their portion of providing these things for their CHILDREN, for the luvva pete!). It's his duty & obligation.

If he's got no honor... well, then post back here, & we'll dig up somethin' to hex him...

[inkywitch]

firstly is this right?? or is this going in to dark magic


Personally, I think doing anything to support your children is right.

If you have an issue with 'dark magic', or magic you think may impose on someone's will... if you have any pre-conceived notions on getting backlash from doing this spell, then I wouldn't sugest you do it. If you are not 100% certain you want to do this, and you have worries of karma, or doubts in your mind at the time, you results won't be very certain. The spell might flop on it's metaphorical arse, or you might work something totally different to getting money off your ex because you mind is pre-occupied with whether or not you'll be kicked up the arse by the universe for doing the spell or not.

IMHO, I don't think is the 'dark magic' (or at least not in the sense of 'evil' anyway.. but labels are a whole new thread issue), and I myself would do something similar if I had kids to support and I had no way of getting it mundanely. I don't follow any Rede, or Rules, just personal ethics. If you do, then your decision would probably be different to mine. 8O

[Lunacie]

Heck I did a spell to get my ex to pay the alimony he had agreed to pay me (our daughter was all grown up). I don't have a problem with a psychic kick-in-the-pants when someone isn't keeping their sworn promise. He had already spent so much money going into business with his mistress that he had filed joint bankruptcy before we were ever divorced, and I wasn't going to let him cheat me out of the money the way he had cheated out of our wedding vows. (If he had been honest with me I would have let him go.)

I know I did some kind of binding spell, but I don't remember exactly what I did. But he kept up with the payments until he died suddenly several months later and I was able to collect on his life insurance like he had promised in case he died before the alimony was finished. His mistress tried to claim it... ha.

Your kids deserve to be taken care of, and their daddy has a responsibility. I don't see any problem with giving him a psychic kick-in-the-pants to get him to step up and be responsible.

[Willow Rosette]

I gotta say Im interestedin this too. My daughters father doesnt pay (he feels since we are going to court to decide he can wait till the judge decides it for him). I dont understand why some fathers can be this way and others can step up and be father to another mans child. from one Mommy with no child support to another ((((((((HUGS))))))))

[LadyWinter]

What concerns me about your post is the comment that the lack of cash is affecting you badly.....You can never count on any one elses money IMO to support yourself or your children. He could not pay one week, and pay the next since you dont have a court order, and even with a court order he could default.

I raise two children without child support. I have never even taken their fathers for child support as they are my children and I dont need anyone elses money to raise them.

My point being you need to make sure your financially stable so that if that money doesnt come in like you hope for you will be okay with it.

Good Luck!
Winter

[Teresa]

I gotta say Im interestedin this too. My daughters father doesnt pay (he feels since we are going to court to decide he can wait till the judge decides it for him). I dont understand why some fathers can be this way and others can step up and be father to another mans child.
:rant:
Men or Women that wait for a judge to tell them to make sure their kids can eat and be healthy and have shoes and clothes DO NOT LOOK GOOD in the eyes of a judge and most ADULTS!!!! They helped to make them , they should help to see they are taken care of. That IRRATES me that a "person" man or woman would wait for a judge to tell them something they should have the common sense to know to do. It is the RIGHT thing to do!!!!!!!

I will look and see if I have anything for Dead Beat Parents for ya both.

[Phoenix Blue]

(he feels since we are going to court to decide he can wait till the judge decides it for him).
He can, but the back pay is going to eat his balls.

Little Angel, have you thought about hiring a lawyer?

[Little Angel]

I have told i'll get paid next week (we'll see)


Little Angel, have you thought about hiring a lawyer?

the thought of going to court scares me a bit, i don't think i could afford one. but look in to it anyway


What concerns me about your post is the comment that the lack of cash is affecting you badly.....You can never count on any one elses money IMO to support yourself or your children. He could not pay one week, and pay the next since you dont have a court order, and even with a court order he could default.

I raise two children without child support. I have never even taken their fathers for child support as they are my children and I dont need anyone elses money to raise them.

My point being you need to make sure your financially stable so that if that money doesnt come in like you hope for you will be okay with it.

im looking for a job at the mo. every thing was fine till christmas happened.

[Willow Rosette]

PB I have major fantisies about hiring a layer but well......that requires money. I want him to be able to keep his word to my daughter more than anything. He gave his word to be there for her in every way and he hasnt seen her for a year and a half. The least he could do is provide for her financially. I have just here recently applied to the courts for c/s but since her has 6 kids through them I will get like $50 which is nothin. When we seperated he agreed to $200 a month plus half of her preschool. And well that dwindled real fast.

[Phoenix Blue]

Lawyers are required to do a certain percentage of pro bono work per year ... I've never hired a lawyer, so I don't know how hard it would be to find one, but it's something people should at least look into when they're being so blatantly shafted.

[Little Angel]

I know my life would me so much easyer if the child support agency did there job properly and the government got there finger out to sort it. then i would have to do it inderpendently.


my ex only sees his son once a month some times 2
GRRRRR dead beat dads :grrrrr:

[Willow Rosette]

GRRRRR dead beat dads :grrrrr:

I second that one.

I actually called a law school that the soon to graduate students do some pro bono work as part of their hours to graduate but they wouldnt have a class ready for that for a couple more months.

And to be perfectly honest as stressful as it is going to the court house (I slept all the next day from the stress) I felt a certain amount of stickin it to him by doing the paper work myself. Now there were people there that helped me, but they didnt work for the court, just random people. But all in all I did it myself and it made me feel good to know that I was the one doing it and for the moment the one more in control. Sorry Im a Leo with control issues LMAO

[LadyWinter]

In most states in the good ole US of A there are legal aid offices which provide services to low to middle income families. You can get the number from calling your local assistance office if no where else.

Dead beat parents seem to be an epidemic which says something about our society......IMO we were better off when they hung men for horse theiving lol

Winter
Doesnt have a horse but has a Harley WOOT!

[Rick]

PB I have major fantisies about hiring a layer but well......that requires money. I want him to be able to keep his word to my daughter more than anything. He gave his word to be there for her in every way and he hasnt seen her for a year and a half. The least he could do is provide for her financially. I have just here recently applied to the courts for c/s but since her has 6 kids through them I will get like $50 which is nothin. When we seperated he agreed to $200 a month plus half of her preschool. And well that dwindled real fast.
In Oklahoma (and I'm pretty sure in each of the United States), the Dept. of Human Services (or a similar agency in each state) handles child support. These agencies have their own courts, judges, lawyers, & case workers whose only job is to see that children receive their support payments (note I said CHILDREN, not exes, UNLESS alimony has been ordered, but most states don't do alimony any more).

[Willow Rosette]

yYour right in the alamony money. Becauase he is trying to modify the custody agreement it is held in the family court house and all delt with at once. Id rather just leave it the way it is now, but well he isnt smart enough to see it that way.

As for who's money it is. I dont exactly agree with you. If he was current I would agree but at this point I feel when he does send something he is simply reimbursing me for the money I have spent and he still gets credit for it. So I do use it for whatever needs to be done.

[Rick]

As for who's money it is. I dont exactly agree with you. If he was current I would agree but at this point I feel when he does send something he is simply reimbursing me for the money I have spent and he still gets credit for it. So I do use it for whatever needs to be done.
:smile: No disagreement about that. I rather expect that "whatever needs to be done" pretty much, directly or not, equals "whatever needs to be done for your children."

I had a peanut-brain argue with me once, "But she's using the child support money to buy a car!" to which I replied "How the hell do ya think she's gonna drive your children to doctor appointments & soccer practices, or drive to the grocery store to buy your children food, ya peanut-brain?"

[bigolalaskan]

first off, this is money that is due you. There should be NO karma backlash if you ask for what you are due, not trying to make him do something, but word it as having all that is due to you come back to you. Leave him out of the sequence so there is no ill will in the energies. Note in the spell this is not out of greed, but out of need. and of course the disclaimer, to harm none, and if it be right, yadda yadda yadda. You're pretty well covered there.

I do money spells every so often, always noting that I'm not afraid of hard work, just need the opportunity to do the work. It never fails that clients will pop up with just enough work to cover the bills for the month. This should be nothing different.

Now, aside from your problem, and directed to other comments made:

as a mother who has joint custody of three children, happens to make 500 more a month, living in a no-fault state, paying the cheating sob and his mormon whore child support, while they live in a house that is paid for, living on a double income, vs. my living on a single income (them 70K per year, me 38K per year) in a cramped two bedroom 900 square foot apartment (three teenage kids) while they are buying motorhomes:

NO -- I DO NOT BELIEVE CHILD SUPPORT IS NECESSARY IN ALL CASES.

But because we live in a no fault state, her salary does NOT count towards reopening the case to give me some relief. All this because I managed to support him through 7 years of college allowing him to get an BA in Accounting, so he could grow up and become a security guard at the state psychiatric hospital.

Nope, his potential didn't count, his adultry didn't count, yadda yadda yadda. aint equal rights GREAT. and I get to pay for the kids therapist because their step mom is an emotionally abusive spoiled brat who hates the fact he was married during their five year courtship and blames my children for her need to make repeated sucide attempts. But then I remember my dears, her life is my K A R M A. And I note, I gladly pay for the therapist.

Rant over. :viking:

[Little Angel]

well i shoud of got the money 2 days ago and didn't. the reason the banks fault again and that he can't pay me till the end of the month as he has to change banks.


also i got some law books from the library and they basicly said the i have to go though the falled CSA.

so fed up with all this crap

:bangyourh

[Willow Rosette]

LA I sympathise totally. Im past even getting the promise of money and well to be honest if would stay away from Toria I think I take that. But I do totally understand, :hugz:

Deadbeat fathers are pigs!

[Annest]

Deadbeat fathers are pigs!
I second that!

[Teresa]

I did go looking through my book and found a " Pay Me Now " spell that would work. This is a Commanding type of spell so it would be up to your judgement as to whether or not you would like to have it. If so feel free to send me a PM.