The Prima Dona Thread

[Glory]

Ever wanted to spaz because someone touched your super special deck when you didn't want them to? Need to vent your eBay delivery woes as you wait for HOURS for them to post your new set of cards? Then this is the place for you! Allow yourself to be a Tarot deck prima dona in the Prima Dona thread! Hooray!

Actually I just want to vent my spleen about something that makes me feel like an aforementioned prima dona, but certainly post your own trivialities here as well. :D

So. I have a deck, it's an old RWS deck. It's also my only one, although I have a couple coming in soon, hurry up NZ postal service! Anyway, this deck used to be my mother's, but she hasn't used it in years, since she was a student, so it really is mine. Recently, I performed a reading for her, and she was very impressed and started getting into it too. She wanted to practice with it.

Now, I'm not the kind of reader who cares deeply if someone wants to touch and use my cards. I always get the querent to shuffle before a reading, and my mother isn't pagan and hates spiritual hippie-age, so I had no fear of her trying to reconnect with them or anything. So we played with them for a while, and she had fun, so she wanted to buy her own deck.

She got her new deck today (Millennium Tarot, it's beautiful) and I asked if I could look at the cards. Not read them. Not deal them. Not shuffle them. Just go through the cards and look at them.

And she wouldn't let me. Why? Because she read somewhere that only the owner should touch the cards unless during a reading. I, a little stunned, pointed out that I let her use my deck, and she told me that it could be "our fun, mess around deck".

...

Excuse me. This is not "our fun, mess around deck". This is my deck I use to read with, for myself and for others. It's my first deck that I connected with. I let you use it because... I let you. Yes, I have a new deck coming in the mail, but this deck is very important to me.

Further more, I just wanted to look at the cards. Oh my god! I mean... I'm glad she's taking on a spiritual connection with these cards, but I wish she wouldn't decide what my own deck should be used for and be such a hypocrite about it!!

Okay. I'm done. Spleen vented.

*mutter*

[Shatril]

:rant: I get really annoyed when people tell you they don't like your reading, but then can't give you a reason why it disappointed them. Grrrrrrrrrr

[inlucesco]

:rant: I get really annoyed when people tell you they don't like your reading, but then can't give you a reason why it disappointed them. Grrrrrrrrrr

Personally I am disappointed when people do readings for me and they don't say "You are about to meet a bevy of tall, dark, hot, talented rock stars who want to wait on you hand and foot for the rest of your life, oh, and the winning lottery numbers for this week are xyz." Amateurs. :(

But back on topic, I recently did a reading for someone who didn't like the answer he got, and a week later asked me if the cards I got could've meant [answer that he wanted to hear]. Then he acted put out when I said no. Don't ask a question if you don't want to hear the answer!

Also, AMAZON, WHERE IS MY GOLDEN TAROT DECK? I WANT IT I WANT IT I WANT IT I WANT IT NOOOOOOOW.

[Rainbow]

I really don't appreciate it when I'm giving a reading with two people in the room, and the person not being read for starts doing the reading for me despite not having any experience reading Tarot.

"Yeah!? You see!? I told you!"

Glad you're enthusiastic and everything, but let me work.

Oh, and if you aren't really "into" Tarot and just want to pick out every little problem you see with it, please just don't.

I'm not "funny" about people touching my cards, but they're not toys and I'd rather if you did touch them you do so with clean hands and without messing around with them, bending them, etc. Heck, even if they were toys I'd expect you to not wreck them.

[FoxFae]

This may just be a Newbie type of problem, but:

I really hate it when the one you're reading for has "one question they really really really need to know!!" and then you end up having a spread with seemingly no connection, no matter how hard you try. Like it's answering three different questions, one of love, money and school at once. Then after you read it, and decided that you'll try it again, they go, "Oh wait! This is in regards to that other thing(s) I was thinking about!"

It would have been nice to know that was in your mind as well. Gr.

[MysticMoggie]

OK, I expected this - my mother is a Christian, but a "faith through works" type who prefers the intellectual and social aspects of the church than the mystical aspects. Which is fine and dandy.

I offered to read the tarot for her, just to show her how it works. She takes one look at what I've drawn for her - which is difficult for me to interpret - and asks, "So what happens if you deal the cards again?"

I deal things again in the same spread. Up comes the Nine of Cups reversed (excess) and the Devil (stop this now, mate!)...so I stop with that spread try again with a Celtic cross. Lo and behold the same cards come up (the ones I remember are the Hermit reversed (this was slightly before Xmas, and after Xmas she began a ruthless attempt to wine and dine most if not all of her closest friends - so I was right that I saw her coming out socially and relaxing a bit more from her intensive workload), the Queen of Pentacles (the significator I use for her in readings) and the Knight of Swords reversed (with her I can be a real bull in a china shop sometimes, particularly when I am stressing out about something). So I've demonstrated the power of the tarot to tell things how they are.

Her response? "You didn't shuffle the cards properly!"

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Second incident: I am describing how I tried to use my mental magick to influence the rolls of dice and drawing cards in my trading card game (Magic: The Gathering). She of course explains that what if gamblers did that all the time, and I might be able to earn money on the tables and so on and so forth; and I give her some evasive answers that it doesn't work or it would anger God or somesuch, concluding with Uri Geller's story about using his psychokinesis on the gaming tables at Monte Carlo only to have his winnings stolen by a freak gust of wind as he was exiting the casino; and thereby taking it as a sign that that wasn't the best use of his talents.

She then mentions that she tried the tarot system online at Facade, where you enter the name of the querent. She allegedly entered her name and then mine, and got the same "answer" each time. Any idea how I should have responded? It's very rare that I get that kind of thing happening on Facade for me; I normally "calibrate" computer programs by typing in/thinking of a question that has already happened to gauge the accuracy of the response. But I've never had - essentially - the reverse come up...maybe my mother's scepticism is enough to warp the fabric of the aether, LOL!

[Tabula Rasa]

To be honest, I don't enjoy reading for others at all.

[LisaT4P]

Barnes & Noble is not shipping my stuff fast enough! Aaaaaargh!

:D I feel much better now.

[Zephyrstorm]

Barnes & Noble is not shipping my stuff fast enough! Aaaaaargh!

:D I feel much better now.


I'm thinking the same thing about the deck I ordered from Amazon - even though I ordered it just two days ago.... *faint*

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I dislike it when you're giving a reading that's fairly private and someone else pokes their nose in and decides to watch. So you stop for a moment and give them the 'go away' look, and they say stuff like "Keep going, this looks interesting!"

[LisaT4P]

I dislike it when you're giving a reading that's fairly private and someone else pokes their nose in and decides to watch. So you stop for a moment and give them the 'go away' look, and they say stuff like "Keep going, this looks interesting!"Oh yes.. it is quite interesting, what you're doing there... I'm sure someone would love to watch... if the reading were FOR THEM! LOL Totally with you.

What is Amazon holding hostage for you? BN is holding my Wheel of Change and Fenestra.... I've already paid the ransom, sheesh! :lol: "Let my tarot go!"

[SoulFire]

Ever wanted to spaz because someone touched your super special deck when you didn't want them to? Need to vent your eBay delivery woes as you wait for HOURS for them to post your new set of cards? Then this is the place for you! Allow yourself to be a Tarot deck prima dona in the Prima Dona thread! Hooray!

Actually I just want to vent my spleen about something that makes me feel like an aforementioned prima dona, but certainly post your own trivialities here as well. :D

So. I have a deck, it's an old RWS deck. It's also my only one, although I have a couple coming in soon, hurry up NZ postal service! Anyway, this deck used to be my mother's, but she hasn't used it in years, since she was a student, so it really is mine. Recently, I performed a reading for her, and she was very impressed and started getting into it too. She wanted to practice with it.

Now, I'm not the kind of reader who cares deeply if someone wants to touch and use my cards. I always get the querent to shuffle before a reading, and my mother isn't pagan and hates spiritual hippie-age, so I had no fear of her trying to reconnect with them or anything. So we played with them for a while, and she had fun, so she wanted to buy her own deck.

She got her new deck today (Millennium Tarot, it's beautiful) and I asked if I could look at the cards. Not read them. Not deal them. Not shuffle them. Just go through the cards and look at them.

And she wouldn't let me. Why? Because she read somewhere that only the owner should touch the cards unless during a reading. I, a little stunned, pointed out that I let her use my deck, and she told me that it could be "our fun, mess around deck".

...

Excuse me. This is not "our fun, mess around deck". This is my deck I use to read with, for myself and for others. It's my first deck that I connected with. I let you use it because... I let you. Yes, I have a new deck coming in the mail, but this deck is very important to me.

Further more, I just wanted to look at the cards. Oh my god! I mean... I'm glad she's taking on a spiritual connection with these cards, but I wish she wouldn't decide what my own deck should be used for and be such a hypocrite about it!!

Okay. I'm done. Spleen vented.

*mutter*

I know she's your mother, but how RUDE of her! I wouldn't put up with that, even from my own mother (who is disceased btw and probably would have had a COW if she knew I read Tarot, much less that I'm a Witch). ;) Did you explain to your mother that she doesn't have the right to determine what your deck should be used for, and that it is, in fact, YOUR special reading deck that she handled?

[SoulFire]

I have two pet peeves: One is when the person you're reading for refuses to tell you their question. Like it's a "test" or something, I don't know. The other peeve is when the client doesn't take the good advice you give them, and they go off and get hurt. This has happened a couple times with different clients.

One reading I did was in a class situation, where a local coven held a 9-week Beginning Wicca course, and asked me to be the guest teacher for the divination class. I accepted. The living room was packed with students. I asked for a volunteer to demonstrate my technique, and a young woman raised her hand, but she refused to tell me her question. I couldn't very well back out. Grrr. Putting me on the spot like that always tests my patience. But it also seems to bring out the best in me. *evil grin* Since she wasn't going to tell me her question, I asked if I could be frank in my reading in front of her classmates. *evil grin* So I just...read the cards: Now, I knew NOTHING about this woman in advance; I had never even met her before. I said that a relationship was ending, possibly in divorce, and she would lose her kids. I didn't even know whether she was married or had kids. But when I looked up, there was a stunned expression on her face. She relunctantly revealed that her husband was filing for a divorce and custody of the kids on the grounds that she was a bad mother because she was practicing Witchcraft.

[PantherBaebe]

Grrr! I hate it when people ask the SAME FREAKIN QUESTION EVERY BLOODY TIME THEY ASK FOR A READING! *rips out hair*

My mom is the worst for this... She is always asking me the same questions over and over again. She keeps getting the same answers but I still keep getting the same questions. It's gotten to the point where my cards get grumpy with me just for pulling them out around her.

Good thread, by the way. :boing:

[Silverwings]

I really hate it when BnN decides to hold on to my order for an extra week!

I lost my only deck of cards due to an unfortunate soup accident; so I'm ordering the Fenestra deck this time (as I've been eyeing it for sometime) and Barns and Noble says "Nope, we'll ship it between now and another 5 business days!"

:collapse:

I also really hate when people thumb through my deck with out asking me first. It really does bother me to no end.

:rant:

[Kudzu]

Grrr! I hate it when people ask the SAME FREAKIN QUESTION EVERY BLOODY TIME THEY ASK FOR A READING! *rips out hair*

Oh, me too! I have clients that I "cut off" from a certain question string and refund their money after they keep turning around and buying another reading on the same topic (even several times a day)! If you didn't take the advice the first time, you ain't going to do it the second, or third or...

I have to give them the ol', "I don't think this is going to be a positive reading experience" speech and send 'em on their way.

[pentacledreamer]

I hate when people come to you and say "It didn'thappen what yous aid didn't happen!" I said, "I told you the path you were headed on at the moment so maybe your path changed just becuase you knew about it." Sighs..

I read them as they are.. I don't control the outcomes.!


and it took Amazon.com a week and half to get me my tarot card workbook I just got it today! arg!

[Jenet]

What winds me up is getting someone who comes to you for a reading with no real purpose other than to fuel their own skepticism. They ask you to do a reading, all innocent and then come out with comments like:
But why do you need to know what I asked? If this was real you should already know.
Why do you keep asking me these things? You're the one supposed to be doing the reading.
So you admit that you tailor the reading to fit what you know about the person.
You're being incredibly vague. Can't you tell me exactly who/what/where/when?
All you're doing is telling me what has already happened/is happening. I thought this was supposed to tell the future.
But you just said that card meant something else when s/he asked a different question.

Oh and then there's my personal favourite from the other side of the reading. When someone is supposed to be doing a reading for you but won't let you anywhere near their cards.

GAH!!! :rant:

[pentacledreamer]

I hate when you go looking for a tarot book and you can't find any that help with the deck you have.. and you've already purchased the only two books that go along with it.. and the same friggin deck seems to be used as the example in every single book you pick up.. so even if you got it theres no variety to the cards you're looking at.

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Completely off topic but have you noticed that people that you don't know that you get along with seem to like the Labyrinth by Jim Henson.. *Thinks*

"Should you need us?"
"For anything at all.."

*Shakes head* anyway..

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