Fluffmeister
March 12th, 2007, 05:46 PM
This is a really interesting chart!
And if anyone complains that it's not fair because I've done Mystic Moggie's chart before others in the queue it's for several reasons: a. the chart jumped out at me because Mystic Moggie lives 10 miles from where I was brought up as a kid; b. She shares a birthday with my ex-boyfriend (date, not year); c. I don't play nice like Keishin does, and life ain't fair :)
All your planets are in the top half, with the sole exception of Chiron, the "wounded healer" in the bottom. We'll come to that in a minute, but let's start with an overview.
Everyone knows their "Sun sign" (when someone says "what sign are you?", that's what they're talking about). So you know you're a Scorpio. The Sun sign is the real you. However, the other two biggies are your rising sign and your Moon sign.
Your rising sign, also called the Ascendant, describes how you come across to people. Yours is in serious-minded Capricorn, so you probably come across to people as hardworking and fairly serious.
Your Moon describes your emotions, roots and how you react (especially when someone pisses you off), and this is in Sagittarius. Scorpio and Capricorn are both pretty serious signs, while Sag is much more happy-go-lucky and doesn't take life nearly so seriously. The downside to Sag is that Sag always puts a happy face on things, even when that's not the appropriate thing to do. Brushing things under the carpet is Sag's speciality, so if someone upsets you you're likely to smile and say "oh, it doesn't matter, life's too short etc etc" while that Scorpio Sun will be simmering away keeping a tally and plotting revenge (which as everyone with a strong Scorpio knows, is a dish best served cold).
The Moon is not just about how you react, though. She is also about your roots, mother, upbringing, anything that ebbs and flows (since she's responsible for tides), and intuition. Sag can be pretty intuitive anyway (it's what's called a "mutable" sign), but your Moon is in the highly intuitive 12th house, and sitting right next to Neptune, the planet of mysticism, dreams, illusions, addictions, and psychic stuff. This is one hell of a psychic placement!
So let's go back to this business of all your planets being in the top half of the chart. In very simplistic terms, everything at the top is "extrovert", everything underneath is "introvert". It's not quite as simple as that, especially given the natural quietness of Capricorn, and the natural tendency to observe from a convenient hiding place that Scorpio has, but I'd wager that by Cappie/Scorp standards, you're pretty sociable and out there.
Let's focus on the key themes in your chart now, as you have some difficult stuff to juggle.
Firstly, that uber-psychic Neptune/Moon in the 12th. Some people with this placement are completely away with the fairies, but not you - you're grounded. You have an earthy Capricorn Ascendant, ruled by sensible Saturn in earthy Virgo, with Saturn making a "square" (that's a 90 degree angle) to your Neptune/Moon combo. That Saturn just wants you to knuckle down and work and make money, while the Neptune/Moon thing is about spiritual and psychic stuff. The Saturn will try and knock that - it doesn't feel safe and secure with the spooky stuff, and will try and tell you that your psychic abilities are impaired, or false, or a sign of illness. One part of you wants to be safe and conventional, but you're a psychic and sensitive individual and need to honour that. If you're doing things like tarot readings, it sounds to me like you ARE honouring that, and that's great - stick with it. Don't underestimate your abilities, and work creatively with them. Creative and artistic projects will really feed that Neptune/Moon in a healthy way, so express yourself!
Secondly, relationships. You have a Venus/Uranus combination in Scorpio, opposite Chiron, and at right-angles to Mars. This is a difficult configuration, to put it mildly. Because of your Capricorn rising, there might well be a rather conventional edge to you - a part of you that just wants to settle down in a nice conventional relationship. That would be quite a challenge, since Venus in Scorpio is unconventional, and Uranus is the planet of quirk personified. Chiron, the only player in the bottom half of your chart, is the "wounded healer" - he's where we feel wounded and hurt in life, but also where we can help others. Chiron in mythology was a centaur who was a wise healer, but was wounded in a battle and left with a wound that wouldn't heal. When this symbol of the wound is opposite the planet of love, it's difficult to deal with. To cope with it, you need independence in a relationship, or possibly an unconventional relationship. The Mr. and Mrs. Normal with the conventional marriage just won't cut the ice. You need excitement, a dash of the unconventional, and your own agenda and freedom within any relationship. This combination makes a right angle to Mars in the 7th house of relationships - and Mars can release himself in bursts of anger from pent-up frustrations. If you feel trapped in a relationship, you will blow - or make yourself ill. You need your personal freedom; sometimes you may well be tempted to sacrifice that freedom, but don't compromise. It won't do you any favours if you do.
Incidentally, you're probably going through some pretty amazing transformations right now. When we do predictions in astrology, we do it by seeing where the planets are right now, and what angles they're making to your birth planets.
Pluto is currently crawling very slowly through Sagittarius, and Neptune through Aquarius.
For most of 2005, you had Pluto passing over your Moon. This is probably the most intense transit you will ever experience, and it can manifest in various ways: Pluto is about transformation, but it's the sort of transformation that really hurts at the time - bringing up all the pain, the hidden stuff, the dark stuff and working through it. With the Moon in the 12th house of institutions and psychism, and ruling the 7th house of relationships, this could have been a traumatic time in a relationship, it could have been issues with mother, or it could have triggered your subconscious issues so much that you needed professional help. Then in 2006, you had Neptune opposite your Mars, really triggering all that relationship stuff with your Venus/Uranus. Mixed blessings, because your also had Jupiter passing over your Venus - and Jupiter's normally the good guy, but even that wasn't necessarily easy with Jupiter in Virgo (he's not too keen on being in Virgo).
By contrast, 2007 looks a lot easier to deal with. OK, you have Saturn squaring your Mercury which can result in frustrating communication problems with people, but you have Jupiter making a nice "trine" (120 degree angle) to your Mars, inspiring confidence and optimism, and Uranus trining your Venus from May onwards making things on the relationship front look much more upbeat.
The dizziness stuff does sound very "12th house", so I think your Neptune/Moon ties in nicely with that, and your idea that it's your subconscious communicating fits in well with that. I think after the transformations of the last two years, your subconscious telling you that you need to honour your psychic side much more, and trust your intuition.
Having said that, sometimes dizzy spells do have a medical cause, so I would get it checked out on the physical front, too, just to be on the safe side.
MysticMoggie
March 13th, 2007, 06:24 PM
WARNING HUGE POST. SOME POLITICAL REMARKS IN THERE BUT ABOUT FACTS RATHER THAN OPINIONS FOR THE MOST PART.
This is a really interesting chart!
And if anyone complains that it's not fair because I've done Mystic Moggie's chart before others in the queue it's for several reasons: a. the chart jumped out at me because Mystic Moggie lives 10 miles from where I was brought up as a kid; b. She shares a birthday with my ex-boyfriend (date, not year); c. I don't play nice like Keishin does, and life ain't fair :)
Thanks :). I'm nothing if not grateful.
All your planets are in the top half, with the sole exception of Chiron, the "wounded healer" in the bottom. We'll come to that in a minute, but let's start with an overview.
Everyone knows their "Sun sign" (when someone says "what sign are you?", that's what they're talking about). So you know you're a Scorpio. The Sun sign is the real you. However, the other two biggies are your rising sign and your Moon sign.
Your rising sign, also called the Ascendant, describes how you come across to people. Yours is in serious-minded Capricorn, so you probably come across to people as hardworking and fairly serious.Sometimes too much so. I come across as very earnest and sometimes overly-academic, and not able to make small talk - I have Asperger's Syndrome, part of the autistic spectrum, so I'm more Gordon Brown than Tony Blair (sorry to bring politicians into it but you will see more in a mo).
Your Moon describes your emotions, roots and how you react (especially when someone pisses you off), and this is in Sagittarius. Scorpio and Capricorn are both pretty serious signs, while Sag is much more happy-go-lucky and doesn't take life nearly so seriously. The downside to Sag is that Sag always puts a happy face on things, even when that's not the appropriate thing to do. Brushing things under the carpet is Sag's speciality, so if someone upsets you you're likely to smile and say "oh, it doesn't matter, life's too short etc etc" while that Scorpio Sun will be simmering away keeping a tally and plotting revenge (which as everyone with a strong Scorpio knows, is a dish best served cold).I've had to learn how to bring things more into the open. I can sit there for a whole evening with tears streaming down my face and claim it's hayfever (in January). My mother has conditioned me to keep problems at home and put a happy face on when I go out, but people seem to be more forgiving of expressing personal problems in social gatherings than my parents usually give them credit for; I've been accused of embarrassing them at functions because my frustrations often overflow and I can't quite seem to learn to switch things off for a while since my preoccupations are ...preoccupations even when trying to sleep.
The Moon is not just about how you react, though. She is also about your roots, mother, upbringing, anything that ebbs and flows (since she's responsible for tides), and intuition. Sag can be pretty intuitive anyway (it's what's called a "mutable" sign), but your Moon is in the highly intuitive 12th house, and sitting right next to Neptune, the planet of mysticism, dreams, illusions, addictions, and psychic stuff. This is one hell of a psychic placement!Well, I've been exploring this for the last year and is why I'm posting on this forum. I have a knack of being someone who can see an oak tree in an acorn - that is, I can look at a situation and tell how it will develop. I can't give you any examples because I don't want to tempt fate - my main one has yet to be proved absolutely right - but a certain person I have had my eye on for nearly three years now - going from an obscure name in a political comic I wrote to a household name in a little over a year, and then downhill from then on in - is the main subject of current predictions, and I could look at a photograph of him and tell instantly that he wasn't the right man for the job at the time...and I suspect I have already been proved right. That's partly intuition, partly psychic awareness, and partly just because I seem to be able to feel how things work in both my chosen area of study - high politics since 1979 - and in some cases beyond (I lived in Poland for 18 months in order to learn the language to do some future study, and knew that there would be a virtual exodus after they joined the EU, because their government refuses to do anything about the post-EU accession economy).
So let's go back to this business of all your planets being in the top half of the chart. In very simplistic terms, everything at the top is "extrovert", everything underneath is "introvert". It's not quite as simple as that, especially given the natural quietness of Capricorn, and the natural tendency to observe from a convenient hiding place that Scorpio has, but I'd wager that by Cappie/Scorp standards, you're pretty sociable and out there.True and not so true. I feel a bit like the Little Mermaid, "I wanna be where the people are" but feeling claustrophobic if I am in a situation I can't handle with too many people about. I stopped going to clubs and discos when I was 17, because I suddenly began to feel claustrophobic, and apart from two weeks at the beginning of university, prefer to go out for a chatty meal with a few mates rather than in a crowd to a club.
Let's focus on the key themes in your chart now, as you have some difficult stuff to juggle.
Firstly, that uber-psychic Neptune/Moon in the 12th. Some people with this placement are completely away with the fairies, but not you - you're grounded. You have an earthy Capricorn Ascendant, ruled by sensible Saturn in earthy Virgo, with Saturn making a "square" (that's a 90 degree angle) to your Neptune/Moon combo. That Saturn just wants you to knuckle down and work and make money, while the Neptune/Moon thing is about spiritual and psychic stuff. The Saturn will try and knock that - it doesn't feel safe and secure with the spooky stuff, and will try and tell you that your psychic abilities are impaired, or false, or a sign of illness. One part of you wants to be safe and conventional, but you're a psychic and sensitive individual and need to honour that. If you're doing things like tarot readings, it sounds to me like you ARE honouring that, and that's great - stick with it. Don't underestimate your abilities, and work creatively with them. Creative and artistic projects will really feed that Neptune/Moon in a healthy way, so express yourself!The dichotomy between the practicalities and intense spiritual awakening have been the theme of the past three years. Everyone always says I'd make a great research student, but I left uni after my first degree to go and work in accountancy because I wanted a proper job and career. My interest in politics is in the people that drive it forward, and I would do well, say, as a columnist for Private Eye, but on the other hand, I value a good solid down-to-earth manager as Prime Minister (e.g. Gordon Brown or Michael Howard) over a flibbertigibbet media whore (e.g. Blair or Cameron). So I'd want to give my all not to the social whirl up in Westminster, but as a government advisor with deep roots in the provincial constituencies that are neglected by London. Howard and Brown seem(ed) to understand that, while Blair and Cameron are too besotted with the high life and the jet-set international business to take much interest in day-to-day admin. I'd like to be - as the Christian maxim has it - "in the world, but not of the world" - my dream job would be tarot reader to the Prime Minister, though perhaps I might have to settle for keeping a deck of cards in my desk drawer at the Ministry for Paperclips, so as not to frighten the voters!
Secondly, relationships. You have a Venus/Uranus combination in Scorpio, opposite Chiron, and at right-angles to Mars. This is a difficult configuration, to put it mildly. Because of your Capricorn rising, there might well be a rather conventional edge to you - a part of you that just wants to settle down in a nice conventional relationship. That would be quite a challenge, since Venus in Scorpio is unconventional, and Uranus is the planet of quirk personified. Chiron, the only player in the bottom half of your chart, is the "wounded healer" - he's where we feel wounded and hurt in life, but also where we can help others. Chiron in mythology was a centaur who was a wise healer, but was wounded in a battle and left with a wound that wouldn't heal. When this symbol of the wound is opposite the planet of love, it's difficult to deal with. To cope with it, you need independence in a relationship, or possibly an unconventional relationship. The Mr. and Mrs. Normal with the conventional marriage just won't cut the ice. You need excitement, a dash of the unconventional, and your own agenda and freedom within any relationship. This combination makes a right angle to Mars in the 7th house of relationships - and Mars can release himself in bursts of anger from pent-up frustrations. If you feel trapped in a relationship, you will blow - or make yourself ill. You need your personal freedom; sometimes you may well be tempted to sacrifice that freedom, but don't compromise. It won't do you any favours if you do.Put it this way, I'm a Tory activist, my boyfriend's a Labour one. (We met through Labour but I got disgusted with Blair, quit for a few years, and then when Howard came in as leader I joined the Tories.) We have been seeing each other for 8 years but have yet to settle down, partly because he is in Wolverhampton, but mainly because neither of us will compromise our viewpoints and it is difficult for me to get a job with all of this unresolved political stuff in the ether - though the intense energy surging through me at the moment suggests the political pendulum is speeding up not slowing down...(on a by-election that it looked like the Tories might win, I was up slogging away on the highways and byways for a whole week; we were kind of excited that people were voting for us even though we'd just lost the general and were in the middle of a leadership crisis; and then on the polling day itself I started getting very anxious and tired and emotional (literally - I am teetotal because of medication). I couldn't explain why because I'd been very excited and almost expected to win...but we lost...because for some reason hours before the result I had possibly channelled the pending defeat through me. Similarly during the election campaign locally I knew we would win - and when I went out in a council by-election about three weeks later, on polling day calling people out to vote, I was struck by how positive people were towards us and how no-one reacted cynically towards being asked to vote only three weeks after the general election. We doubled our vote and took the seat from the LibDems. Last year there was a by-election in Bromley, a safe Tory seat - I predicted we'd lose, because there was something that just didn't feel right about Cameron's attitude despite being ahead in the polls. I was nearly right - we kept the seat by the tiniest of margins and the share of the vote fell 80% - and I wasn't even involved in the campaign; I made my prediction on the day the MP in question died. It was the same with the leadership election - among ordinary voters there was one question on many people's lips - not "who", "why"? So there is part of me with connection to some sort of specific source of knowledge which means that I am eventually proved right; my objective over the last few years has been to find and refine and channel that knowledge and wait for the pendulum to swing back again in my favour, catching it as it goes past this time! This will solve relationship, financial issues, and a lot else.
Incidentally, you're probably going through some pretty amazing transformations right now.I know, I can finally feel them. I have waited months for something like this. It's not a bad dizzy feeling, it just feels a bit like the Apostles at the first Pentecost (sorry, practising Anglican, but being raised in a multi-faith society means I have a copy of the Koran on my shelf as well as the bible and a whole cupboard full of pagan ephemera, such as my circlet, pendulum, wand (I really wish I could point it and say "Lumos" when there's a power-cut!!!) and dreamcatcher).
When we do predictions in astrology, we do it by seeing where the planets are right now, and what angles they're making to your birth planets.
Pluto is currently crawling very slowly through Sagittarius, and Neptune through Aquarius.
For most of 2005, you had Pluto passing over your Moon. This is probably the most intense transit you will ever experience, and it can manifest in various ways: Pluto is about transformation, but it's the sort of transformation that really hurts at the time - bringing up all the pain, the hidden stuff, the dark stuff and working through it. With the Moon in the 12th house of institutions and psychism, and ruling the 7th house of relationships, this could have been a traumatic time in a relationship, it could have been issues with mother, or it could have triggered your subconscious issues so much that you needed professional help. Then in 2006, you had Neptune opposite your Mars, really triggering all that relationship stuff with your Venus/Uranus. Mixed blessings, because your also had Jupiter passing over your Venus - and Jupiter's normally the good guy, but even that wasn't necessarily easy with Jupiter in Virgo (he's not too keen on being in Virgo).The issues with my mother are very intense, I have lived at home for three years after coming back from Poland, and while I was working I lived with her in Dublin (she moved away from Dad for two years but eventually - just after quit accountancy and went to Poland - she came back to join him in Reading; they never split up formally, they just lived apart for a while because of work). She is a bit of a control freak, and I spend my life trying to placate her or prove myself to her. I guess it sped up in 2005 - I was working part-time for 2004 waiting for the general election; I quit in December 04 to volunteer for the Tories locally with an eye to getting experience and contacts to push me through the post-election period. I had a strong feeling that Michael Howard was going to be prime minister - I still get the same dreams, in fact - and was devastated when we lost the election (though if I had paid attention to those dreams more closely, I would have realised that it was not time yet - one was of him and I inspecting the dead body of a young man with reddish hair...unnamed at the time but no prizes for guessing who it is). I had planned to work inside the party as someone who knew what was going on on the ground in the provinces, not just like the Hooray Henries at Westminster (from whence Messrs Osbourne and Cameron sprang - when I first saw DC I thought to myself "Hooray Henry" - some of the things that he did at school and college make the mind boggle as to how he could ever properly represent the "ordinary" people in society). So with the resultant collapse in confidence, I had to start from scratch, but Mum looks at things in a very practical way - as parents do - and was trying to get me into a job, any job, or registered disabled (because of the Aspergers) or whatever...I ended up on sick benefit and doing odd jobs for her round school (she is the headmistress of a girls' independent school) but not being able to be paid for them because they were over and above the four hours I'm allowed to do per week!...ridiculous, but, there you go, I suppose any other way it could be construed as fraud.
By contrast, 2007 looks a lot easier to deal with. OK, you have Saturn squaring your Mercury which can result in frustrating communication problems with people, but you have Jupiter making a nice "trine" (120 degree angle) to your Mars, inspiring confidence and optimism, and Uranus trining your Venus from May onwards making things on the relationship front look much more upbeat.At this stage my answer is "No Comment". As I said I feel at the moment as if I'm on a swing being pulled back in preparation to go flying forward (I steal out after dark and go across the road to the children's playground, and play on the swings there! I had one when I was little, and I used to sit out and tell stories on it, so it brings back a lot of happy memories to just push myself back and forward and feel the breezes!...), and it really does feel as if I am a matter of days away from a big breakthrough. I've been told March 15-22 is a good week, but I am weary from all the disappointments of the last two years so I am almost now reluctant to take any of my divination at face value even though I have almost written a timetable on Google Calendars of what is supposed to happen this week.
The dizziness stuff does sound very "12th house", so I think your Neptune/Moon ties in nicely with that, and your idea that it's your subconscious communicating fits in well with that. I think after the transformations of the last two years, your subconscious telling you that you need to honour your psychic side much more, and trust your intuition.
Having said that, sometimes dizzy spells do have a medical cause, so I would get it checked out on the physical front, too, just to be on the safe side.When I stop writing, I feel calm and balanced, but it's just come pouring out. I think I might have them under control, and I do have a bit of a headache (a glass of water and a Nurofen never did anyone any harm, and I might turn in when I finish this post anyway), but when I move my hands away from the keys I feel more in control.
Thanks for doing it so quickly. I'm sorry about all the political references, I should have pm'ed this I guess, but things are coming together now and whether I can trust what I feel now to manifest itself in reality is the big issue. I did the I Ching and got a positive result, but ... I'm sure you know the feeling. After things have moved at such a glacial pace, it's always weird when you start to feel different and ready for action.
KEishin
March 14th, 2007, 08:52 AM
"Flibbertigibbet" . . . love it! I'll add it to my list of "words to trump any Scrabble game." :lol:
I don't always comment on other charts, but I felt like I needed to in your case.
I can't say I'm surprised to find out you are deeply involved in politics - Sagittarius Moon (someone who takes their political beliefs as a religious crusade) with Jupiter (the ruler of Sag) in service-oriented Virgo! Add in anti-establishment Uranus in the 10th and you are primed to drive for change to improve the lives of others. God help any of your political idols or partners who compromise their ethics for gain. You'll rip them to shreds with the utter honesty and directness that all three of these signs are known for! Subterfuge and deceit are intolerable to you. If these tactics are used, you sever further relations with those involved, and thereafter it is almost impossible for them to regain your lost confidence.
That Moon/Chiron/Neptune/12th house set of issues that Fluffmeister mentioned is one of those challenges that makes you stronger, even if it hurts along the way. Aquarius intercepted in the 1st house: your parents did not take well to you being different (mild understatement probably) and wanted you to conform (Cap rising). People like you with the Moon in the 12th house tend to be anyway born into families where emotions are played down if not outright ignored. Emotions aren't practical after all and gods forbid other people realize that emotions exist! (I can say that because I have a similar sort of situation in my own family.) Your Mum, since she's often represented by the Moon, may be afraid of examining her emotions, just in case by doing so she wrenches the lid off "Pandora’s box". In such a situation, the domestic atmosphere tends to be charged with unacknowledged and unresolved emotion. The child of sucha situation is taught by example that feelings are to be ignored and goes on the run from them, frequently by concentrating on the area of life indicated by the house position of the Sun. Yours is the ninth - politics, finding a sense of purpose, making decisions for large groups of people. Libra here gives the desire to make the whole world sing, or least just get along and play nice. (Let me know how that goes.:eyebrow:)
But one last thing to mention. You and most of your generation are going through the wonderfully transforming Chiron/Chiron square right now, where transiting Chiron squares his natal position. Fluff told you about what Chiron does in the chart, so while he helps work through that stuff, like anything worth having it's not easy. It's very Saturnine in expression - if you try to avoid the pain then it only follows you until you face it. The more you do now to evolve your way of thinking the easier it will be to benefit from this period you're in now. It really presents as a sense of feeling lost and that life can be meaningless. Do you maybe feel that if you turned back time, things might be different? Chiron's answer to this is to learn to love things just as they are and see the benefits, blessings, lessons and gifts in them, despite the pain and suffering they seemed to have caused at the time. Like the previously mentioend Pluto transit, Chiron serves to open old the old wounds to allow them to be healed. But like any such situation, sometimes a lot of gunk has be leeched from them first.
Fluffmeister
March 14th, 2007, 09:19 AM
Thanks for doing it so quickly. I'm sorry about all the political references, I should have pm'ed this I guess, but things are coming together now and whether I can trust what I feel now to manifest itself in reality is the big issue. I did the I Ching and got a positive result, but ... I'm sure you know the feeling. After things have moved at such a glacial pace, it's always weird when you start to feel different and ready for action.
You're welcome, and thanks very much for the feedback too - it's really useful to get feedback so that all us readers here can hone our art, which is why I'm glad you posted it here in the thread rather than by PM.
No need to apologise for the political references - it's a very handy shorthand; OK, I guess the non-Brits here might not understand it, but I know what you meant! :)
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