DNA can be changed through witchcraft.

[Pakkaram]

I can explain it in a very simple way, by some simply understandable facts. I think You know what medicine realm generally speaks about DNA influences. They also say that almost all person’s illnesses, characteristics and physical qualities are patrimonial and inherited from the person’s parents (are determined by his/her DNA what is the synthesis of the person’s parents’ DNA-s.)
For example, Estonian pagans have cured many and many illnesses that are classified by the medicine realm as patrimonial illnesses, changed person’s physical qualities that are determined by DNA and changed person’s characteristics what are classified as patrimonial/inherited from the person’s parents (the person’s qualities what are determined by his/her DNA what is the synthesis of the person’s parents’ DNA-s.)
I personally have changed a person’s eye colour (from unclear green to blue). The medicine realm claims that a person’s eye colour is also determined by the synthesis of the person’s parents’ DNA-s.

The fact that these kinds of things are done prove us that a person’s DNA can be changed through witchcraft. Of course, actually it is so that many person’s illnesses and characteristics do not come from the person’s DNA. Many many illnesses and characteristics are the result of a person’s energetic problems in the mental-world. By the way, usually these are caused by a person’s parents’ energetic problems that influence the person. Oftentimes, this is the reason why a person has got the same problems as his/her parents do. But unfortunately people think that these are the result of the DNA what is similar to his/her parents’ DNA. But examples like changing a person’s physical qualities (for example changing a person’s eye colour) are definitely the result of changing a person’s DNA.

I plan to teach You how to change DNA (if some of You don't know how to do it yet), but in the far future. Right now it is more important for people to know the Fundamental Laws of the Raktobleer, so I concentrate my free time on this. What can be read here in this board, too. In the “Paths: Slavic & Baltic Paganism” forum in this board here.
http://www.mysticwicks.com/forumdisplay.php?f=290

If You know how to change DNA, You will not be able to do this if You do not know how to bring out Your zero-reality energy. That’s why I wish to share the knowledge about the laws of Raktobleer before this knowledge how DNA can be changed. By the way I plan to teach how people could change their DNA to normal. I see that almost every person’s DNA is locked up. A person is actually a godlike being. So I do not plan to teach something dangerous here because here are also some children reading this forum who maybe would like to grow horns to themselves or something like that :].

[Amelserru_halqu]

It also works in reverse and is much easier. Isn't cancer an interesting thing? So simple a cause and so hard to cure.

btw, get quantitative data and you will be a billionaire. Always nice to be able to back up your claims with hard evidence.

[BlueEyedWolf]

I have always wanted Lavender Eyes!

[adrianne]

The fact that these kinds of things are done prove us that a person’s DNA can be changed through witchcraft.

No, it really can't. Sorry.

[Pakkaram]

It also works in reverse and is much easier. Isn't cancer an interesting thing? So simple a cause and so hard to cure.

btw, get quantitative data and you will be a billionaire. Always nice to be able to back up your claims with hard evidence.
Well, we have seen that there are different causes for a cancer. Some witches even deal with hooking cancers to people (makeing them sick with cancer). If that kind of a person is the cause, then this cause for the cancer is not simple at all :] because in this case You have to make the offended party immune to cancer or destroy the one who tries to kill him.
We have seen that cancers what are caused by someone, (someone has made someone sick) are much easier to cure. To cure cancer we usually search for the cancer crystal inside the patient. If we find it we take it out and the person cures. Of course we need to know by which fault point it was put in. What mistake the person made himself, what was his own fault with what he made it possible for others to make him sick. So he could learn his lesson and someone could not make him sick again.

[wolfjan1]

You and that Preacher. Can I REALLY change my DNA because I was forced by may parent's genes to be gay?

[Morgandria]

Eh. I call shenanigans on this one.

[Willow Rosette]

So you are saying someone gets cancer becuase they did something wrong? Cancer crystal? HUH????????

[Shanti]

We are biological units that get broken. Some things will always need to be conventional fixed! Our mortality seems to always stir so much fear that we grasp at everything to prevent it. Some things are meant to be fixed, by metaphysical means and some by conventional and some by both, some not to be fixed at all, but in the end....we end, biologically, no matter what.

[Amelserru_halqu]

Well, we have seen that there are different causes for a cancer. Some witches even deal with hooking cancers to people (makeing them sick with cancer). If that kind of a person is the cause, then this cause for the cancer is not simple at all :] because in this case You have to make the offended party immune to cancer or destroy the one who tries to kill him.
We have seen that cancers what are caused by someone, (someone has made someone sick) are much easier to cure. To cure cancer we usually search for the cancer crystal inside the patient. If we find it we take it out and the person cures. Of course we need to know by which fault point it was put in. What mistake the person made himself, what was his own fault with what he made it possible for others to make him sick. So he could learn his lesson and someone could not make him sick again.

Gee... I always thought it was simply a mess up in the genetic code that causes the cells to divide continuously without regard for space. Which is my point, change someones DNA and you can destroy them in a slow, drawn out, excruciating fashion. Just pointing out a nifty potential use of this ability and although I haven't tried to cure anyone with magically induced cancer I don't see how it would be any different than normal cancer. You'd still have to stop the replication and remove the existing cancerous cells in some fashion to reverse the damage.

Now a seed to cause cancer... that's an interesting idea, you set something up, to automatically attempt to change the genetic code of the victim in oh say the lymphatic system. Eventually it might work, and then they'd die from lymphoma. An interesting and thought provoking idea, I think that I may have to consider this further just in case I ever have cause to use it.

[gwendar]

Got any empirical evidence to back your assertation?

And,

No it can't.

[Willow Rosette]

Why would someone want to "give" someone cancer? That is not something I would wish on my worst enermy. Seems to me even if this were to be possible I would not want that on my shoulders. Personally I believe we are born having already planned out what life lessons we will learn this go round. It might be we choose to learn loss this time, or physical pain, whatever we need to learn this time. There for if we go screwing with the pre existing plan things could get very very messy.

[Pakkaram]

So you are saying someone gets cancer becuase they did something wrong? Cancer crystal? HUH????????
Yes, of cource.
Firstly, if You are in harmony with the nature, then You have the protection what the nature gives You. The nature has given You Your body. The nature can also support Your physical body and energetic bodies and to give You the protection. If You haven’t done everything wrong then Your energetic bodies should be in great condition and even if someone comes to make You sick, he can not do it. He will get this bad what he wants to do for You on himself.

Secondly: It doesn’t hook with You because You are in great condition (there are no emty spots in Your energetics).

Thirdly: You are the strongest in Your territory as the black magic of Raktobleer teaches. Your body is Your territory, also. So how can anyone put something that makes You sick into You, if You do not permit it. Of cource if someone has made a mistake by giving his own power away, then it makes it a bit hard to protect himself. By the way if You know the black magic of Raktobleer and You are the ruler of Your territory, then You can simply throw out these different illnesses from Yourself .

[Willow Rosette]

Something sounds off here. Maybe there is a part misunderstood, but I do not believe anyone would have the capability to give someone else cancer and even if they did the Goddess would over rule them.

[Philosophia]

No offense but I need to see strong evidence to back up these claims.

[Shanti]

Yes, of cource.
Firstly, if You are in harmony with the nature, then You have the protection what the nature gives You. The nature has given You Your body. The nature can also support Your physical body and energetic bodies and to give You the protection. If You haven’t done everything wrong then Your energetic bodies should be in great condition and even if someone comes to make You sick, he can not do it. He will get this bad what he wants to do for You on himself.

Secondly: It doesn’t hook with You because You are in great condition (there are no emty spots in Your energetics).

Thirdly: You are the strongest in Your territory as the black magic of Raktobleer teaches. Your body is Your territory, also. So how can anyone put something that makes You sick into You, if You do not permit it. Of cource if someone has made a mistake by giving his own power away, then it makes it a bit hard to protect himself. By the way if You know the black magic of Raktobleer and You are the ruler of Your territory, then You can simply throw out these different illnesses from Yourself .
Actually, in reality, you can get cancer by being exposed to carcinogens. Just ask the test rats, monkeys, and the like.

It would be great if I could stop all the chemicals and pollutants in my environment from accumulating and harming my body but chemicals don't head your desires.
Just think, breathing the polluted air with never having any effect on your lungs or system!

[Pakkaram]

You and that Preacher. Can I REALLY change my DNA because I was forced by may parent's genes to be gay?
The cause of being a gay is a bit more complicated. Usually the cause comes into being (arises) at the moment when a person is born (In this case someone has tried to kill You or to hinder Your birth at the moment of Your birth and that has caused this problem). Some anti-reality soul parts have born here and the reality of this place soul parts has born into the anti-reality. This is what switches this side. To repair this, it is needed to energetically kill the person for a moment and to bring these parts back here in right way from the zero-reality (where Your immortal part, essence is situated). But, this is dangerous. Even Tokroda (Estonian Pagans’ leader) haven’t tried this. Well maybe the reason why he haven’t tried it is in the this that by my information, gays who have come to our witches haven’t wished it done.

But, it is not the only possible reason for this problem. As You see the reason in Your DNA and You do not wish to be a gay, then I wonder if there could be the other cause for this problem in case of You. Mabye Your parents or You have sold away some of Your inner realm and someone has made You a gay and that’s why You are a gay. In Your one inner realm is situated this part of You what forms Your DNA. In this case theoretically it is possible for You to not be a gay anymore.
Is this being a gay just sexual and appears in libido and in interests towards other people ? You can write me in PM in case You do not wish this personal matter to be discussed here.

[Amelserru_halqu]

Why would someone want to "give" someone cancer? That is not something I would wish on my worst enermy. Seems to me even if this were to be possible I would not want that on my shoulders. Personally I believe we are born having already planned out what life lessons we will learn this go round. It might be we choose to learn loss this time, or physical pain, whatever we need to learn this time. There for if we go screwing with the pre existing plan things could get very very messy.

Because not everyone is a nice and pleasant person. Not everyone controls their desire to reek terrible vengeance against those who wronged them and some people simply wish to cause pain and suffering. Then again some people might use such an ability to remove the corrupt from power and become corrupt themselves. The reasons are varied and people will do so if the ability exists. So even though you may not desire to do such an act there are those who do. Furthermore few people that are willing to do so give a flying frack about the grand design or prechosen destinies so why would that stop them?

But as to why I would want to cause someone cancer... well perhaps I'm just interested in the theory of it, perhaps it may be useful someday to strike an enemy from afar by slowly changing their genetic code, who knows if I'll need it, but that doesn't make it any less interesting.

There is also the fact that causing cancer would be the easiest of all genetic manipulations using magic and from there perhaps we could learn to heal genetic disorders, so perhaps from the pain of a few shall come the good of many. Isn't that the way of things? Or perhaps it could be done on animals and we could prevent the rather sad loss of human life... then again there are plenty of humans sitting on death row that would make perfect test subjects...

[Pakkaram]

Actually, in reality, you can get cancer by being exposed to carcinogens. Just ask the test rats, monkeys, and the like.

It would be great if I could stop all the chemicals and pollutants in my environment from accumulating and harming my body but chemicals don't head your desires.
Just think, breathing the polluted air with never having any effect on your lungs or system!
Did You know that even in clay there is some amount of radiation. This is natural. And this is natural that people live in this kind of environment, also. And I don't see that this has had an effect on my DNA. The nature has given even some immunity against radiation to our DNA. So mabye if people repair themselves they could be immune to even more usually harmful substances than chemicals and pollutants.
By the way, cockroaches appear to have total immunity towards radiation. Why should people have not. They are humans, far more evolved than bugs. I see that someone has just made people broken or made this part of the planet broken that could give bigger protection to people.

[Amelserru_halqu]

Something sounds off here. Maybe there is a part misunderstood, but I do not believe anyone would have the capability to give someone else cancer and even if they did the Goddess would over rule them.

Disrupt the energy in the body and you get a temporary illness. Direct the energy so it causes genetic changes during transcription and you get cancer. A pretty easy theory, but I imagine it would take a lot of power and focus to do so, at least quickly. However if you systematically weakened the victim's defenses it might just be possible.

[Pakkaram]

Because not everyone is a nice and pleasant person. Not everyone controls their desire to reek terrible vengeance against those who wronged them and some people simply wish to cause pain and suffering. Then again some people might use such an ability to remove the corrupt from power and become corrupt themselves. The reasons are varied and people will do so if the ability exists. So even though you may not desire to do such an act there are those who do. Furthermore few people that are willing to do so give a flying frack about the grand design or prechosen destinies so why would that stop them?

But as to why I would want to cause someone cancer... well perhaps I'm just interested in the theory of it, perhaps it may be useful someday to strike an enemy from afar by slowly changing their genetic code, who knows if I'll need it, but that doesn't make it any interesting.

There is also the fact that causing cancer would be the easiest of all genetic manipulations using magic and from there perhaps we could learn to heal genetic disorders, so perhaps from the pain of a few shall come the good of many. Isn't that the way of things? Or perhaps it could be done on animals and we could prevent the rather sad loss of human life... then again there are plenty of humans sitting on death row that would make perfect test subjects...
I have seen that the enemies of mankind break mankind's DNA. So I plan to teach mankind how to repair it and how to protect themselves. Well, though not in this board/forum here I guess. I think it some people would be against it here (but mabye not :] ). So, I plan to do it in the external forum of Estonian Paganism - Tokroda.

[rawrTigress]

This is an interesting concept. The mixture of science and religion is coming up more and more in different religions. It'll be interesting how this evolves in the future, and what people will think about it.

<3 rawrTigress

[Amelserru_halqu]

I have seen that the enemies of mankind break mankind's DNA. So I plan to teach mankind how to repair it and how to protect themselves. Well, though not in this board/forum here I guess. I think it some people would be against it here (but mabye not :] ). So, I plan to do it in the external forum of Estonian Paganism - Tokroda.

Perhaps in the future I would take such a course, currently I lack the skill to do anything that advanced, sigh... to know what may be possible and be unable to do it is a very vexing thing.

[Pakkaram]

Got any empirical evidence to back your assertation?

And,

No it can't.
We haven’t recorded evidences about curing patrimonial illnesses through witchcraft. We have had busy time with helping people, these cured people have got their proofs :]. Well maybe in the future we will prove for the majority that through witchcraft we can cure illnesses that are caused by DNA.

But to share this information we do not need to create these evidences as I see. That’s so because I think people can find evidences about curing patrimonial illnesses through witchcraft from internet. Witches can test by themselves do our teachings help them or not.

[Willow Rosette]

Disrupt the energy in the body and you get a temporary illness. Direct the energy so it causes genetic changes during transcription and you get cancer. A pretty easy theory, but I imagine it would take a lot of power and focus to do so, at least quickly. However if you systematically weakened the victim's defenses it might just be possible.

But why would you want to harm someone else?

[gwendar]

We haven’t recorded evidences about curing patrimonial illnesses through witchcraft. We have had busy time with helping people, these cured people have got their proofs :]. Well maybe in the future we will prove for the majority that through witchcraft we can cure illnesses that are caused by DNA.

But to share this information we do not need to create these evidences as I see. That’s so because I think people can find evidences about curing patrimonial illnesses through witchcraft from internet. Witches can test by themselves do our teachings help them or not.

Why should anyone believe what you are saying, if you aren't producing any peer-reviewed, scientific research?
I realize that some people have faith in the supernatural, but you're talking about a medical condition here. You need to have testable, scientific evidence to make claims like that.

I guess you should know that I am a skeptic and non-theistic.

[Faelon_Moon_Hawk]

We haven’t recorded evidences about curing patrimonial illnesses through witchcraft. We have had busy time with helping people, these cured people have got their proofs :]. Well maybe in the future we will prove for the majority that through witchcraft we can cure illnesses that are caused by DNA.

But to share this information we do not need to create these evidences as I see. That’s so because I think people can find evidences about curing patrimonial illnesses through witchcraft from internet. Witches can test by themselves do our teachings help them or not.

I'm with gwendar on this. I'm sorry but you can find anything on the internet. Just because it's on the 'net doesn't give it any credence of any kind. In fact, when doing research for paper college book and journal sources were far prefered over internet ones, especially internet ones that were not associated with a reputable organization (a college, university, government, etc).

Also, why use witchcraft to alter DNA? Other options seem faster and more reliably to me. I mean, there is a lot of current research going on in the field of genetics including genetic modification in an effort to cure many of these genetic diseases. To me it seems like oh, i could do a spell to help me get over my cold faster, or i could drink lots of fluids, take some vit. c and get rest. Of course you could do both and potentially get better even faster.

I'm not going to say changing one's dna via witchcraft couldn't be done, but i fail to see any way of actually proving it could be done, since there are so many environmental factors that can alter dna, not to mention errors in dna's replication leading to mutations. I guess, what it comes down to for me anyways, is that even if there were no other things to cause dna to change, it would anyway given the simple fact that it does make replication errors. Most of the time they are harmless, but sometimse they manifest themselves physically.

At any rate, under any cirucumstance, i'm not sure messing with DNA under any cirucmastance is a good idea. it effects not only the individual but (potentially) any future offspring of that individual, and i don't think any of us can see the consequences of that.

[Silverfire Darkmoon]

*cough*
Troll.

[Amelserru_halqu]

But why would you want to harm someone else?

I don't currently. Personally I generally just let things go, but I can see times where just eliminating a problem is more effective than trying to reconcile differences or simply passively protecting myself or even trying to move them away from me. Also I may want to hurt those who hurt me, if the crime is grievous enough.

In this case I'm simply interested in the theory and would generally decline to harm others in this fashion. Ruin them financially, emotionally, and socially sure, kill them directly... only if I have due cause. I do have a conscience you know (broken and twisted though it may be) and trust me it isn't pleasurable for me to simply hurt people without a good reason, I'm not a sadist, I just see times where it may be necessary to hurt others.

So do you understand now? I don't think we'll agree on the subject, but at the very least I want you to understand my reasoning on the subject.

[Pakkaram]

I'm with gwendar on this. I'm sorry but you can find anything on the internet. Just because it's on the 'net doesn't give it any credence of any kind. In fact, when doing research for paper college book and journal sources were far prefered over internet ones, especially internet ones that were not associated with a reputable organization (a college, university, government, etc).
You can read and see do these researches in internet have credence, where are they made and so on, You see. There could be researches what are made for paper, also. How can You not count with something just because it is on the internet : /



Also, why use witchcraft to alter DNA? Other options seem faster and more reliably to me. I mean, there is a lot of current research going on in the field of genetics including genetic modification in an effort to cure many of these genetic diseases. To me it seems like oh, i could do a spell to help me get over my cold faster, or i could drink lots of fluids, take some vit. c and get rest. Of course you could do both and potentially get better even faster.

Do You know how expensive these other options are, especially for a person with medium income ? And, I don’t see they are faster.
By the way, Estonian pagans do not tell people not to use usual treatments or drugs at the same time they are cured through witchcraft. For us it is ok to cure in both way at the same time. By the way, I think people with fatal illnesses don’t dare to stop taking their medicines, even if there would be a need.



I'm not going to say changing one's dna via witchcraft couldn't be done, but i fail to see any way of actually proving it could be done, since there are so many environmental factors that can alter dna, not to mention errors in dna's replication leading to mutations. I guess, what it comes down to for me anyways, is that even if there were no other things to cause dna to change, it would anyway given the simple fact that it does make replication errors. Most of the time they are harmless, but sometimse they manifest themselves physically.

You are talking about breaking the DNA. I know that there are many environmental factors that can alter DNA to mutate. But, I see no need for evidences about this that braking DNA through witchcraft is possible. So I see no problem if it is impossible to prove that.

[moonchild]

Yes, of cource.
Firstly, if You are in harmony with the nature, then You have the protection what the nature gives You. The nature has given You Your body. The nature can also support Your physical body and energetic bodies and to give You the protection. If You haven’t done everything wrong then Your energetic bodies should be in great condition and even if someone comes to make You sick, he can not do it. He will get this bad what he wants to do for You on himself.

Secondly: It doesn’t hook with You because You are in great condition (there are no emty spots in Your energetics).

Thirdly: You are the strongest in Your territory as the black magic of Raktobleer teaches. Your body is Your territory, also. So how can anyone put something that makes You sick into You, if You do not permit it. Of cource if someone has made a mistake by giving his own power away, then it makes it a bit hard to protect himself. By the way if You know the black magic of Raktobleer and You are the ruler of Your territory, then You can simply throw out these different illnesses from Yourself .



So explain why an 8 month old infant would come down with a rare cancer??? what the bloody hell did she do? actually, explain why newborns are born with cancer.... she and they haven't done anything wrong to warrant an attack.

[Willow Rosette]

I don't currently. Personally I generally just let things go, but I can see times where just eliminating a problem is more effective than trying to reconcile differences or simply passively protecting myself or even trying to move them away from me. Also I may want to hurt those who hurt me, if the crime is grievous enough.

In this case I'm simply interested in the theory and would generally decline to harm others in this fashion. Ruin them financially, emotionally, and socially sure, kill them directly... only if I have due cause. I do have a conscience you know (broken and twisted though it may be) and trust me it isn't pleasurable for me to simply hurt people without a good reason, I'm not a sadist, I just see times where it may be necessary to hurt others.

So do you understand now? I don't think we'll agree on the subject, but at the very least I want you to understand my reasoning on the subject.


I agree that we will not agree on this sunject. But I do not uderstand the reasoning behind wanting to harm someone. There is absolutly no one I would ever want to harm in any fashion. I have a fantisy that my daughhters father will jut go away but even then I would not want that on my consience. I personally do not see any good reason to harm someone. I feel if someone is bad enough they will get their own.

And to be honest if someone hurt my daughter enough for me to want to hurt them to this extent I would use other measures than changing their DNA.

But I think we would all like to see your "proof" that this is even possible.

[wolfjan1]

Sir, your manner of treating other people and your condescension to other people speaks for itself. You just want your opinion to be heard and people to agree wholeheartedly.
These theories, unfortunately, do not go unnoticed by the power mad.
Since only your opinion acounts here anway, I shall say my goodbyes.

[Pakkaram]

So explain why an 8 month old infant would come down with a rare cancer??? what the bloody hell did she do? actually, explain why newborns are born with cancer.... she and they haven't done anything wrong to warrant an attack.
Actually I don't know what she made wrong, but I can write down some variants:

1. Did this baby had a father? To bring up a baby a mother really needs a male aside. The baby needs his father's energy, too. That’s the way the nature works. Both genders are important. Both have their own role.
2. Did the wife used only her husband’s male aspects. If You take in other men than Your husband’s teachings or operating models or ideas or meaning of life or so on then in this field where You use these, Your man can not protect You. You do not create perfect wholeness/ entirety with Your husband in this field of activity.
3. Didn't she let her parents (child's grandparents) to decide over her family matters. Your children are no relatives’ business, neither Your family. The channel for attack could be opened this way, through relatives who meddle in other's businesses and wish to command matters that they must not.
4. Did she asked for external (spiritual) help for the sake of her children (for example some prayer). This creates and permits a connection, also (if You wish to get energy from someone or protection, how can it be done without connection) and this channel could be used to attack the baby.
5. and so on. I hope these 4 already helped.

But in this case I think it really has to be just a crystal. Just in case I write my suggestion. I suggest her to rip the crystal out from the baby. When doing it she needs to concentrate on her personality (true personality is this that doesn’t care about other’s opinions about You. True personality doesn’t need feeding from others). This crystal is like alive. She doesn’t have to destroy it – just to throw that far away. And beat it away if it tries to come any closer to the baby. These crystals are just inorganics who search for an emty place to live in. Usually this is the cause of a cancer.

[wolfjan1]

In your line of thinking, every evil person on the Earth should be dead or dying rapidly from the karma of the evil that they do.
It ain't happenin' fast enough for that to be remotely true.
Get over yourself please and find some other way to torment mothers with young children.

[Pakkaram]

In your line of thinking, every evil person on the Earth should be dead or dying rapidly from the karma of the evil that they do.
It ain't happenin' fast enough for that to be remotely true.
Get over yourself please and find some other way to torment mothers with young children.
Haven't You just noticed that the bad people just seem to have somekind of protection and the good people need to be almost unmistaken to survive. That's the matter what I wish to change.

Well well, You say I am tormenting mothers with young children here. Pretty hard accusation. Mabye You know to give some better suggestion what would help this mother. Or You just like to disparage others?

[wolfjan1]

But doesn't that negate your "theory?"
Babies can have cancer and die while evil people can just be protected and live on to be evil? I thought you could CHANGE that DNA by magic? does that mean evil people have better "magic?"

[morningstar2651]

I can explain it in a very simple way, by some simply understandable facts. I think You know what medicine realm generally speaks about DNA influences. They also say that almost all person’s illnesses, characteristics and physical qualities are patrimonial and inherited from the person’s parents (are determined by his/her DNA what is the synthesis of the person’s parents’ DNA-s.)
For example, Estonian pagans have cured many and many illnesses that are classified by the medicine realm as patrimonial illnesses, changed person’s physical qualities that are determined by DNA and changed person’s characteristics what are classified as patrimonial/inherited from the person’s parents (the person’s qualities what are determined by his/her DNA what is the synthesis of the person’s parents’ DNA-s.)
I personally have changed a person’s eye colour (from unclear green to blue). The medicine realm claims that a person’s eye colour is also determined by the synthesis of the person’s parents’ DNA-s.

The fact that these kinds of things are done prove us that a person’s DNA can be changed through witchcraft. Of course, actually it is so that many person’s illnesses and characteristics do not come from the person’s DNA. Many many illnesses and characteristics are the result of a person’s energetic problems in the mental-world. By the way, usually these are caused by a person’s parents’ energetic problems that influence the person. Oftentimes, this is the reason why a person has got the same problems as his/her parents do. But unfortunately people think that these are the result of the DNA what is similar to his/her parents’ DNA. But examples like changing a person’s physical qualities (for example changing a person’s eye colour) are definitely the result of changing a person’s DNA.

I plan to teach You how to change DNA (if some of You don't know how to do it yet), but in the far future. Right now it is more important for people to know the Fundamental Laws of the Raktobleer, so I concentrate my free time on this. What can be read here in this board, too. In the “Paths: Slavic & Baltic Paganism” forum in this board here.
http://www.mysticwicks.com/forumdisplay.php?f=290

If You know how to change DNA, You will not be able to do this if You do not know how to bring out Your zero-reality energy. That’s why I wish to share the knowledge about the laws of Raktobleer before this knowledge how DNA can be changed. By the way I plan to teach how people could change their DNA to normal. I see that almost every person’s DNA is locked up. A person is actually a godlike being. So I do not plan to teach something dangerous here because here are also some children reading this forum who maybe would like to grow horns to themselves or something like that :].Who taught you this?

[Amelserru_halqu]

Actually I don't know what she made wrong, but I can write down some variants:

1. Did this baby had a father? To bring up a baby a mother really needs a male aside. The baby needs his father's energy, too. That’s the way the nature works. Both genders are important. Both have their own role.
2. Did the wife used only her husband’s male aspects. If You take in other men than Your husband’s teachings or operating models or ideas or meaning of life or so on then in this field where You use these, Your man can not protect You. You do not create perfect wholeness/ entirety with Your husband in this field of activity.
3. Didn't she let her parents (child's grandparents) to decide over her family matters. Your children are no relatives’ business, neither Your family. The channel for attack could be opened this way, through relatives who meddle in other's businesses and wish to command matters that they must not.
4. Did she asked for external (spiritual) help for the sake of her children (for example some prayer). This creates and permits a connection, also (if You wish to get energy from someone or protection, how can it be done without connection) and this channel could be used to attack the baby.
5. and so on. I hope these 4 already helped.

But in this case I think it really has to be just a crystal. Just in case I write my suggestion. I suggest her to rip the crystal out from the baby. When doing it she needs to concentrate on her personality (true personality is this that doesn’t care about other’s opinions about You. True personality doesn’t need feeding from others). This crystal is like alive. She doesn’t have to destroy it – just to throw that far away. And beat it away if it tries to come any closer to the baby. These crystals are just inorganics who search for an emty place to live in. Usually this is the cause of a cancer.

Or could it simply be that this child is genetically flawed? No spiritual reasons, only a physical weakness that leads to much pain and suffering. A truly sorrowful thing to be sure but nothing magical about it at all. There is not always a spiritual answer, there is not always an answer to why, but there is always a how.

[Teresa]

Although I do believe that one can manipulate energy and therefore their own energy forces and I believe in Reiki, I do not share the beliefs that "weaknesses" are caused by anyone other than ourselves. I also believe that some illnesses are a lesson from which we have something to learn. I also believe that children are innocent and more pure than adults in nature. When a child becomes very ill , I do not think that it is caused by anything they have done nor their parents. Also, I do not view being "gay" as something that is wrong. It is a part ,just like the differences of sexes. I do not think that one should infere that something is wrong with someone because they are gay. That kind of talk has no place here.

As for the part where you refered to "the woman" taking in learning from someone more than "her man", that statement sounds very sexiest and has no place here .


As far as changing DNA, I am with the show evidence of this side! With any good theory there comes proof and substance to validate it.





I do not believe that talking about ways to kill people, or cause harm of this nature is an appropiate topic for this forum. There is a Mysticwicks Dark Side where it would be more appropiate to discuss something of this nature.

[moonchild]

Your variants don't work in this instance....1. of course the baby has a father, a very involved father, one who spends lots of quality time with her and is very proud of her and lives with her and her mother. 2. the wife did not take on any other man's qualities, she is true to her husband and her husband only. 3. the child's extended family has never been intertwined in the the child's life. They do not "put their two cents in'. they are very supportive and allow the parents to make the decisions and not intervene. 4. this is rediculous because of course the parents asked for help from everyone in their life including their higher beings when the child became sick. the way 4. is written it seems that the only way you are safe is if you are isolated and do not contact your higher being for help, ever. How do you do magic without connecting with a higher being? as far as the crystal....there is no possible way to remove the mass because of where it resides. it is at this time necrotic (dead) and will be absorbed by the body, which is the real magic for her. Doctors remove "crystals" all the time but it doesn't garrantee cure. as far as i'm concerned the infant in question doesn't have a reason to have an empty space to fill.

my question still stands....


Actually I don't know what she made wrong, but I can write down some variants:

1. Did this baby had a father? To bring up a baby a mother really needs a male aside. The baby needs his father's energy, too. That’s the way the nature works. Both genders are important. Both have their own role.
2. Did the wife used only her husband’s male aspects. If You take in other men than Your husband’s teachings or operating models or ideas or meaning of life or so on then in this field where You use these, Your man can not protect You. You do not create perfect wholeness/ entirety with Your husband in this field of activity.
3. Didn't she let her parents (child's grandparents) to decide over her family matters. Your children are no relatives’ business, neither Your family. The channel for attack could be opened this way, through relatives who meddle in other's businesses and wish to command matters that they must not.
4. Did she asked for external (spiritual) help for the sake of her children (for example some prayer). This creates and permits a connection, also (if You wish to get energy from someone or protection, how can it be done without connection) and this channel could be used to attack the baby.
5. and so on. I hope these 4 already helped.

But in this case I think it really has to be just a crystal. Just in case I write my suggestion. I suggest her to rip the crystal out from the baby. When doing it she needs to concentrate on her personality (true personality is this that doesn’t care about other’s opinions about You. True personality doesn’t need feeding from others). This crystal is like alive. She doesn’t have to destroy it – just to throw that far away. And beat it away if it tries to come any closer to the baby. These crystals are just inorganics who search for an emty place to live in. Usually this is the cause of a cancer.

[Amelserru_halqu]

Since there appears to be no proof other than personal experience for the ability of witchcraft to change DNA let me offer the following suggestion.

Let some of our most advanced practitioners learn from Pakkaram or Pakkaram's teacher and after a suitable period of time let them report their experiences. Should they report positive experiences then we should conduct tests on one cell organisms and see whether or not anything can be changed inside of them. This seems to be the only way to get quantifiable evidence.

That is unless Pakkaram or some other person who claims to have these abilities choses to go to the nearest children's hospital and heals all of the kids with cancer which would then appear on the news (after all, man miraculously heals 50 terminally ill children would make a great headline).

So what say ye?

[Athena-Nadine]

The cause of being a gay is a bit more complicated. Usually the cause comes into being (arises) at the moment when a person is born (In this case someone has tried to kill You or to hinder Your birth at the moment of Your birth and that has caused this problem). Some anti-reality soul parts have born here and the reality of this place soul parts has born into the anti-reality. This is what switches this side. To repair this, it is needed to energetically kill the person for a moment and to bring these parts back here in right way from the zero-reality (where Your immortal part, essence is situated). But, this is dangerous. Even Tokroda (Estonian Pagans’ leader) haven’t tried this. Well maybe the reason why he haven’t tried it is in the this that by my information, gays who have come to our witches haven’t wished it done.

But, it is not the only possible reason for this problem. As You see the reason in Your DNA and You do not wish to be a gay, then I wonder if there could be the other cause for this problem in case of You. Mabye Your parents or You have sold away some of Your inner realm and someone has made You a gay and that’s why You are a gay. In Your one inner realm is situated this part of You what forms Your DNA. In this case theoretically it is possible for You to not be a gay anymore.
Is this being a gay just sexual and appears in libido and in interests towards other people ? You can write me in PM in case You do not wish this personal matter to be discussed here.


Actually I don't know what she made wrong, but I can write down some variants:

1. Did this baby had a father? To bring up a baby a mother really needs a male aside. The baby needs his father's energy, too. That’s the way the nature works. Both genders are important. Both have their own role.
2. Did the wife used only her husband’s male aspects. If You take in other men than Your husband’s teachings or operating models or ideas or meaning of life or so on then in this field where You use these, Your man can not protect You. You do not create perfect wholeness/ entirety with Your husband in this field of activity.
3. Didn't she let her parents (child's grandparents) to decide over her family matters. Your children are no relatives’ business, neither Your family. The channel for attack could be opened this way, through relatives who meddle in other's businesses and wish to command matters that they must not.
4. Did she asked for external (spiritual) help for the sake of her children (for example some prayer). This creates and permits a connection, also (if You wish to get energy from someone or protection, how can it be done without connection) and this channel could be used to attack the baby.
5. and so on. I hope these 4 already helped.

But in this case I think it really has to be just a crystal. Just in case I write my suggestion. I suggest her to rip the crystal out from the baby. When doing it she needs to concentrate on her personality (true personality is this that doesn’t care about other’s opinions about You. True personality doesn’t need feeding from others). This crystal is like alive. She doesn’t have to destroy it – just to throw that far away. And beat it away if it tries to come any closer to the baby. These crystals are just inorganics who search for an emty place to live in. Usually this is the cause of a cancer.

3. Racism, sexism, age discrimination, the outright bashing of a path or religion, etc is unacceptable. Debating the tenets of a religion is one thing... calling all Christians evil or saying that all Pagans are going to hell is not allowed. Proselytizing is not allowed in any form. No conversion or 'witnessing' is allowed. We are not here to spread our various religions. We are here to be friends, love and respect each other, and most importantly... learn. Tolerance is key. All religions and Paths are welcome here providing their tenets do not violate any laws or our rules. Calling someones religion "false", no matter how wrong or silly it may seem to you is not allowed.

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