your 420

[Fire_Crotch132074]

hey just curious about how everybodies 420 was, even if you don't do drugs. I'm just curious.

[Phoenix Blue]

Huh?

Umm, the weekend was good, if that's what you mean; but what does doing drugs (or not) have to do with it.

[Chibi-Fallon]

Phoenix please don't tell me you've never heard of 420! That's just wrong. I don't know quite why people smoke then I just know they do. :D I think it has something to with Hitler. That's what I heard anyway. I had a very fun 420 myself.

[Yvonne Belisle]

I am confused too.

[SpiDer_AnGeL]

Mine sucked! I wanted to get together w/my boyfriend but no...........forget that.....gee i wonder what he was doing,haha. So i went to a track thingy......it was interesting to watch......had funish there but i still wanted to see him, but who cares what i want that doesnt matter.........sorry just b*tchin' i mad about this weekend.....grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr:mad:

[Garnet]

420? Uh...I feel as if I'm watching a foreign-language film without subtitles. Explain, please! Some of us old fogies aren't up to speed on new lingo.

[manstranger]

I mentioned it in the tax day thread .. 4/20 is pot heads day and hitlers birthday I think .. its supposedly the only legal day to smoke pot, and if you take your toke at 4:20, its good luck for quiting.

[flar7]

uh, dont test that theory. There is no legal day to smoke pot
in the U.S. You can if you got the religous thing permit and can
prove it, or for medicinal reasons and can prove it!

[manstranger]

yeah .. i told my friends last year not to either:eek:

[Mithrea]

I didn't think it was an April 20th thing, I thought it had to do with the time of day. Something about 4:20 am being the perfect time to smoke. Maybe it was from a Bob Marley song or something? I never heard the Hitler part. :confused:

[Mnemosyne]

Flar is totally right. There is no legal day to smoke marijuana. Who started that rumor? Gosh, I can see kids now; hey, it's time to smoke pot, since it's 4:20. My friend told me all the crazy theories about 420. Supposedly, there are 420 chemicals in marijuana; there was some big marijuana drug bust on 4.20; the police code for marijuana is 420. hmmm. I don't know if any of those things of true, but people celebrate pot on April 20 (4-20). There's my useless information.

[manstranger]

the girl that told me that must have been smoking somethign then!

bobo made a funny! Oops .. this is not just silly! Sorry Myst!

[SuperHeroGirl]

4/20 is my moms bday.....i dont smoke but a lot of my friedns do......hmmm wht else. oh yah! a lumber yard n my town BLEW UP!!! again! i feel really bad for them this is the 2nd time it happened to them

[Mnemosyne]

perhaps this should go in Just Silly. I haven't heard about this topic in ages. You think that I would hear this type of talk since I work with young kids. I can't believe that these stories about April 20 are still going around.

[Chibi-Fallon]

Originally posted by Mnemosyne
Flar is totally right. There is no legal day to smoke marijuana. Who started that rumor? Gosh, I can see kids now; hey, it's time to smoke pot, since it's 4:20.
Kids aren't stupid Mnemosyne. It's just another reason to smoke. No one cares why. It's just a time, and a time when everyone is out of school. ;) Notice how it's not 1:20 or something.

[Shaman0325]

my 420 was a great day...spent it with my kids...Then drove back home to New Hamsphire and had a realaxing 4:20 :D ....Peace :cool:

[Kaylara]

4/20 is Earth Day! :D I don't smoke, so 4/20 will always be Earth Day for me.

Kaylara

[Psyche Ague]

My 420 was spent preparing for and going to prom. No, I'm not a prom queen type of girl. Prom transcends all social groups at my school. Everyone goes. It's just another reason to dress up. Actually, for me it's PLAYING dress up. I went as Arwen this year. *grin*

Was invited to a few parties (only a few), but I wasn't really in the mood to get smoked (I'm sick right now) so I went out with Radocs. It was nice and relaxing. I had fun.

Yeah, it's Hitler's birthday and the anniversary of the Columbine shootings and the national "smoke-up" day, but it was also my prom. *rolls eyes* :rolleyes:

[Twig]

4/20 is Jim Morrisons Death day ( or is it b-day....or the time he died, I keep forgeting. ;) ) In honor of The Lizard King, ANYTHING with 420 in it is a reason for harrruph the younger generation to smoke out.

To those of you who perform this ritual....Your idol died of a f------ drug overdose/heart seziure in a Paris bathtub with a goddamn bottle of whisky by his side! Bloated and high on the Gods know what. A washed up musical has been. I find the whole idea ludicrous, that you would want to create a "memorial" in this way to him. Or are you really celebrating Hitlers birth!???

(With a nod toward Mol ;) ) Jim Morrison was a genius and a Bard. Those of us who were actually alive to hear his music in the context of the historical time i.e. the vietnam war, can appreciate [sp] what the songs actually referred and alluded to.

Yeah I smoke. But not for the reasons you do. At 44, I smoke as a pain reliver for the 2 crushed disks in my spine. I smoke it as a part of my high rituals on occassion. I DO NOT recommend this for anyone else.

Hell, I had the dubious distinction of holding the record for the amount of time it took to get the THC out of my system in my drug rehab class, years ago. It was 46 days for those who wonder. Marajuana destroyed my first marriage, due to the fact my wife left me for her pot dealer after I quit and couldn't support her $300-500 a month habit any more. The going price is $20 a GRAM now folks! :O

A person CANNOT be a serious pagan and a pothead at the same time. The interference of thought creates a situation where you are not in control of the forces you need to control magick without YEARS of practice.

As to my 420? I spent it reading a book about my faith and telling folks "No, I don't have any pot. Now go away and let me enjoy my day with my love."

R.S. your profile says your 15 yrs old. Take it from one who has been there. Your grades WILL start to slip and you won't reach your full potential if you make ganga a serious part of your life.

"It ain't worth it Bro." ;)

WHEW!!! [end rant]

Peace,
Twig
:elf:

[Twilight Garden]

I heard that the way it started was because 420 was the police code for a marijuana bust. The whole 420 thing has been around for a while. I thought it was common knowledge. I guess not.

[Kaylara]

Originally posted by Twig
4/20 is Jim Morrisons Death day ( or is it b-day....or the time he died, I keep forgeting. ;) ) In honor of The Lizard King, ANYTHING with 420 in it is a reason for harrruph the younger generation to smoke out.

To those of you who perform this ritual....Your idol died of a f------ drug overdose/heart seziure in a Paris bathtub with a goddamn bottle of whisky by his side! Bloated and high on the Gods know what. A washed up musical has been. I find the whole idea ludicrous, that you would want to create a "memorial" in this way to him. Or are you really celebrating Hitlers birth!???

(With a nod toward Mol ;) ) Jim Morrison was a genius and a Bard. Those of us who were actually alive to hear his music in the context of the historical time i.e. the vietnam war, can appreciate [sp] what the songs actually referred and alluded to.

Yeah I smoke. But not for the reasons you do. At 44, I smoke as a pain reliver for the 2 crushed disks in my spine. I smoke it as a part of my high rituals on occassion. I DO NOT recommend this for anyone else.

Hell, I had the dubious distinction of holding the record for the amount of time it took to get the THC out of my system in my drug rehab class, years ago. It was 46 days for those who wonder. Marajuana destroyed my first marriage, due to the fact my wife left me for her pot dealer after I quit and couldn't support her $300-500 a month habit any more. The going price is $20 a GRAM now folks! :O

A person CANNOT be a serious pagan and a pothead at the same time. The interference of thought creates a situation where you are not in control of the forces you need to control magick without YEARS of practice.

As to my 420? I spent it reading a book about my faith and telling folks "No, I don't have any pot. Now go away and let me enjoy my day with my love."

R.S. your profile says your 15 yrs old. Take it from one who has been there. Your grades WILL start to slip and you won't reach your full potential if you make ganga a serious part of your life.

"It ain't worth it Bro." ;)

WHEW!!! [end rant]

Peace,
Twig
:elf:

Bravo Twig!!!!! I couldn't agree more... I don't use drugs, and haven't for a long time. I saw what it did to me, and I saw what it did to friends and family members... I don't need very enhancement of my natural gift to see energy, and a little alcohol will do that for me... (Although I would like to try a flying ointment if I can find someone I trust who knows how to make it correctly. ;))

Kaylara

[AradiaSupernova]

my Mom would call this next thing a part of my "persecution complex" but I don't think so.

What is everyone's problem? For the most part (or atleast in my house and my friends) 420 is a joke and is treated as such. I don't see why all the adults in here are taking the subject and making such a big deal out of it. Most of us educated teenagers know the dangers of smoking pot and doing other drugs, we're forced through DARE programs and such, so..I think we know what we're doing. Just because one of us hears about something and makes a joke out of it isn't a reason to start getting all up tight :/

[Kaylara]

who's an adult and who's getting uptight?

I have several friends who do smoke pot, and celebrate 4/20. Because I dont' think that drugs are good, and because I don't do them, and I say that 4/20 is not smoke your brains out day, it's Earth day, doesn't mean that I'm being uptight... Trust me, I know that people don't need an excuse to smoke. Kids today do what they are doing, but I don't think that they understand fully the consequences of their actions... This stuff really screws up your life. I know how badly, as I have lost several family members because of drugs. (And yes this includes pot) When you start using them for escapism, you have a problem... The only reason at this point in my life for using ANYTHING would be to commune at a higher level with the gods.

Aradia, Take a look at my profile, I'm not that much older than you. I'm not some goody two-shoes. But I'm sorry if some of us "Adults" think that younger people doing drugs is not a good thing. Some don't, but they apparently haven't found this thread yet.

Once you are 17, possibly even 16, I think that's where personal responsibility takes over... Whatever you do from then on, is your deal, and you have to live with the consequences of your actions.
As long as you aren't interferring in my life with your use of whatever then fine, do your own thing...

Just my idea on drug use and 4/20...

Kaylara

[Illuminatus]

I heard that 4:20 was a an anti-marijuana legislative act. So the number is supposed to have some sort of irony.

[Jeleia]

I heard that it was Jim Morrison's death day as well. But to my friend's and I , its just Pot smoking day. hmmm..... Lots of rumors floating around, I guess.

Twig is right, it does get expensive. I've seen people ruin their lives. My ex boyfriend doesn't go to work, never graduated and why? Because he'd rather sit around and smoke pot.

I'm not against pot. IMO, I think that smoking pot is a lot like drinking alcohol.

[Phoenix Blue]

Just remember, guys, this is an open forum; and if some DEA agent happened across this conversation, both yourselves and this website could find yourselves in very hot water.

Discussing drug use is free speech; saying you use illegal drugs is a confession to crime and carries no First Amendment protection.

[AradiaSupernova]

*raises her eyebrow* Kaylara, I never said anything about you guys finding it bad that younger kids do drugs. I don't, by the way, I think anyone who does is a total moron.

[cybadiva]

why so down on grass? It grows on this Earth for us to use - I see no difference between drinking a cup of peppermint tea for digestive reasons and a cup of cannibas tea as a muscle relaxant - why all the dramatics? Smoking tobacco and drinking alchohol are far more harmful, but hey they're legal, so thats ok then;)

[manstranger]

cause pot is a big bad thing that must be put down with stupid MTV commercials and stories about how it ruins your life.

[Psyche Ague]

I completely agree, Cybadiva. Alcohol has probably ruined far more lives than marijuana has. (Can I back that up? No. It's mere speculation. Don't jump all over me for it.) Alcohol poisoning can be fatal. Drunk driving is a serious problem in America. Its appeal is becoming something younger and younger kids feel. Cigarettes are expensive and possibly more harmful than both pot and alcohol (and not to mention the fact that they STINK!). But young children smoke. Alcohol and cigarettes are socially acceptable as well as legal while pot is just as bad but no worse than either and it is illegal. If you disagree with pot (and it's medicinal benefits), then why can't I assume that you also disagree with alcohol and cigarettes? Granted, many can say that they do disapprove. But why not others? I've never heard of a pot overdose. While I agree that people who become addicted easily to other things may become addicted psychologically to pot and may experiment with other drugs (which I do NOT approve of), others can handle it and use it simply to relax or for "inspiration." Marijuana's medicinal benefits are far too great to ignore. Anything that eases the pain of a chronically ill person is all right by me. It's their choice.

[Phoenix Blue]

Quoth cybadiva:
why so down on grass? It grows on this Earth for us to use - I see no difference between drinking a cup of peppermint tea for digestive reasons and a cup of cannibas tea as a muscle relaxant - why all the dramatics? Smoking tobacco and drinking alchohol are far more harmful, but hey they're legal, so thats ok then;)
Anything in overabundance can ruin lives. I'm not trying to be "down on grass"--though I should point out that mandrake grows naturally, too, and people aren't as cavalier about its use. . .

I'm just warning people not to make public knowledge of the fact they're breaking the law. Luckily I'm not in the branch of government that deals with these things; because someone who was might be obligated to open an investigation based on such statements as what I've seen posted here.

[Kaylara]

I think that ANYTHING that effects your judgement is bad when it is not done in moderation or used irresponsibly. If you are smoking up every day, or drinking excessively every day, then bad thing... It's one thing to smoke everyonce in a while or to have a drink or even get drunk everyonce in a while... It's a different story if you are doing it every day or putting other people in danger while using said substances. I personally make sure that I am either staying where ever I'm having a drink or I'm having Traz drive (he doesn't drink or do anything like that). I won't get behind the wheel of any automobile for the next 12 hours just to make sure that my judgement isn't compromised. I know a lot of people who drink and drive, and smoke and drive. I don't know about the rest of you, but I know that if I ever hurt someone else because I was under the influence I would never be able to forgive myself. I look at my little brothers and cousins, and think about how it would be if one of them got hurt because some A**hole decided to drink and drive or smoke and drive. No one to my knowledge has o'ded on pot, but does that mean that it's ok. I see the dulled reflexes of people who smoke up, the slow speech, the slowed thinking. It's one thing if you are using it because you are chronically ill and that's the only thing that will help ease your pain, but recreational use is something different...

As far as it being natural, come on... Heroin, cocaine, and acid are all derived from natural sources, does that make them ok... Just because it's natural doesn't mean it's ok... Things like hemlock, foxglove, deadly nightshade, and mandrake are all natural, and all deadly.

I lost more than one family member either to their own drug use, or the drug use of someone who they trusted... Some very important people in my life have been stolen from me because they were stupid or someone they were with decided to be stupid. As far as I'm concerned, drugs screw up your life, and mine is bad enough as it is without me causing myself more problems by drinking constantly, or using drugs. Escapism is not the answer.

Kaylara

[Fire_Crotch132074]

No stoner cares what the 420 means we just know to smoke on 420, we don't care if its Hitlers bday (I wouldn't celebrate 420 cause of that). I don't care what it means, I just smoke a whole lot of pot that day.

[Haedis]

you "just know to smoke on 420"? why, because everyone else does it? if it has no significance to you then why do it? I smoke pot (on occasion. its not something i want to do frequently) but I was totally sober on 420. I dont see the point in honoring something that I dont understand...but thats just me. :smoke:

[Twig]

Originally posted by Phoenix_Blue
Just remember, guys, this is an open forum; and if some DEA agent happened across this conversation, both yourselves and this website could find yourselves in very hot water.

Discussing drug use is free speech; saying you use illegal drugs is a confession to crime and carries no First Amendment protection.

Heheh- Gods I'm glad I live in Oregon. Worst they could do is give me a ticket. :cool: :D

As for why I'm "down on it"? because by a conservative estimate in my ~30 years of smoking, I've spent WELL over $10,000. :eek: :eek: :eek:

I'm just trying to save some people some money. ;) :) :D

Peace,
Twig
:elf:

ps- And I AM the druid DAD after all. Hehehehe

[Fire_Crotch132074]

Originally posted by Phoenix_Blue
Just remember, guys, this is an open forum; and if some DEA agent happened across this conversation, both yourselves and this website could find yourselves in very hot water.

Discussing drug use is free speech; saying you use illegal drugs is a confession to crime and carries no First Amendment protection.

Sucks 4 us, thank goddess I'm underaged so wouldn't get punished as harshley, I think/hope :)

[Phoenix Blue]

Sayeth Twig:
As for why I'm "down on it"? because by a conservative estimate in my ~30 years of smoking, I've spent WELL over $10,000. :eek: :eek: :eek:

Good point. If someone wants to waste money, they should send it to me instead.

[Illuminatus]

Originally posted by AradiaSupernova
*raises her eyebrow* Kaylara, I never said anything about you guys finding it bad that younger kids do drugs. I don't, by the way, I think anyone who does is a total moron.

We think you're dumb too :)

[Danustouch]

I agree with Haedis. Why do something if you don't understand it?

Anyway...I smoked pot in my past. I don't do it anymore. It made me feel lazy, and tired, and fuzzy, so I stopped. It actually just kind of faded out. For a while, I did it almost every day (this was a few years back), then, I just stopped being "Turned On" by it. I found that once it started losing it's thrall for me, which at first was almost like a spiritual high, that I just didn't need it anymore. I'm not down on people who do it, though I do hate when I see someone who's smoked their whole lives away..I find it sad....You know the type..the type that are "Way out"... Or who use it as an escape from their problems. I find that sad too. But..I can see how valuable it can be to some people, with severe anxiety disorders, cancer patients undergoing Chemo, people in severe pain, like people with M.S. And I also don't think it is a huge problem for people who do it once in a blue moon.

But..coming from a place in my life, where I didn't fit into any of those categories, I can actually say, I like being off the stuff now. I feel far more clear headed now that I don't do it. But that's just me. In the grand scheme of things, I think weed is the lesser of many evils.

[Illuminatus]

Originally posted by rolling_stoner
No stoner cares what the 420 means we just know to smoke on 420, we don't care if its Hitlers bday (I wouldn't celebrate 420 cause of that). I don't care what it means, I just smoke a whole lot of pot that day.

Danus, rolling_stoner,

Well, the reason you DO it is to get high.

WHY we do it on 4:20? That's a different question altogether. We do it because it's a Tradition. Unfortunately, like so many traditions, its origins are shrouded in time and legend. Much quicker than usual, since pot smoking affects the memory! :) But just because we don't remember why we started is no reason to stop! It's no different than any other family or cultural tradition.

- Ill

[Illuminatus]

Originally posted by Danustouch
I agree with Haedis. Why do something if you don't understand it?

Do you really want me to answer that???? Because we could start a new thread over in Philosophy!!!

I've always been a "because it's there" kind of guy, at least when pondering why I'm mountain climbing.

- Ill

[SimplyStrange]

I had fun on my 4/20... I went with my current love obsession to the county fair, then to his house to watch Reservoir Dogs. Sure, there were sooo many people out getting screwed up, and that's fine with me. It was just nice to know I didn't need a drug to have fun.

My reason for not ever smoking bud is my brothers... I've seen what it did to them... one of 'em used it as escapism and dropped outta' high school and so forth and is just now getting back up on his feet. After living with it for 3 years (it's finally gone) and taping up my vent and closing my door 24/7 so I could Actually BREATHE because they were tokin' every chance they got... I've come to appreciate the finer things in life...

It's just not my cup of tea :)

[AradiaSupernova]

alrighty. remind me not to come back to this website again.

[Twig]

I'm hearing things that start to border on breaking the only rule we have here.

Think before you post folks....please!?

Peace,
Twig
:elf:

[SimplyStrange]

Ay ay ay ay!! *clings to Twig* I totally agree with you Twig!! Things are getting heated.

Guys, don't let a difference of opinion ruin your fun. It's a simple debate, don't judge the whole site on it...

[cybele]

Thanks to all who gave light to the "420" thing. I had never heard of it before this year. I was throwing plates at a greek resturant (opa!) when my friend wished me a happy 420. I thought the ozo had made him inclined towards celebrating numbers. ( like the Count from Seasame Street, "420, Hahahaha!") I hate not being informed. Send a memo when we celebrate the zipcode of Hershey, PA.

This has been going on a long time? (Did someone inform the estate of J. Campbell?) Talk about a defining moment when you feel out of touch/old.

Twig,
Can I still appreciate the verse of The Doors in the context of the period if I was not an active part of it? ( I was to young to serve or flee war, being born in 68) I promise not to become a retro neo hippy. ;) I never idolized Jim, though I admit to the first stirring of ......"puberty" (cough, blush, cough) when I found the album cover with Mr Morrison on it in my fathers record* collection. I was promptly sent back to my barbie dolls and childish things when I looked on the Edgar Winter album. (eeek)


Blessings,
Been gone a long time,
Cybele.

* Record: (reck-ord) a form of music transmission made of a large disk of wax.

[Psyche Ague]

I agree wholeheartedly that moderation is the key. Too much of anything (but LOVE! well, not creepy-stalker-love...) is not good.

[MammaStar]

My 4-20 was spent at the Little League field watching my son play ball. But, being the former stoner I am, I did sing my little 4-20 song.

I was a MAJOR stoner for a long LONG time. It is amazing that I didn't do damage to my son. *Lesson coming*, I was such a stoner, that I even smoked the first few months of pregnancy. STUPID, STUPID STUPID! Which is by far, the WORST thing I've EVER done in my entire life & I am DAMN lucky that I have a son who's normal. DAMN LUCKY. So, all of you young'uns (& not son young'uns) with the "it won't happen to me attitude", it could. Not everyone is as lucky as I was.

Wanna know where I got my first joint? MY MOM! So, it was kind of hard to hear the "drugs are bad" speech when Mom was sparking it up in the next room. Me & both my brothers were stoners. Unfortuneately, my older bro was a stoner & boozer & went to rehab when he was just 16 years old!!! 16!!!! That's about how old some posters are here. Think about, 16 & you're doing 3 months in rehab, when you should be learning to drive & hanging with your friends.

I don't smoke anymore. A choice was presented to me about 3 years ago, I decided that the reason was more important than a stupid weed. Do I miss it? Sometimes. Am I proud of the stupid things I did when I was stoned? Nope. I'm lucky to have graduated high school, besides what I did when I was pregnant 10 years ago.

[Danustouch]

I think that is pretty much how I feel about it, Ldy. It felt that at the time I stopped, it was like the Universe kinda giving me a choice. I had just gotten too far into it. It was starting to lose it's initial joy...and just become a "habit". Then all of a sudden, my friends that I used to smoke with, all moved away, within a very short time frame from eachother...and I never did enjoy smoking alone....so ...I just "Stopped". Poof* Done* that was it. I never went through a withdrawl, never "needed a fix", which is why I still maintain that Pot is not addictive, unless the person has a really addictive personality. So..the universe kinda presented me with this choice..."I'm giving you an out here. Do you want to continue on, or are you done now?" and I chose "Done.".

There are times I miss the people I smoked with..and the things we did, and the places we'd go...certain music, will bring back fond memories...

But..do I feel the desire to do it again? Nope. Not really. I feel so much more...alive, now that I'm not hiding behind a "Smoke Screen". Plus, it really screwed with my lungs, with my athsma and stuff. And to tell the truth...the experience was, what the experience was. It was a time in my life, where it fit. In my current life, it doesn't. And believe me, it's not for lack of opportunity...rather, lack of desire.

I try to imagine having children..and I simply cannot imagine having kids, and wanting to smoke pot, simultaneously. So..it doesn't fit for me, doesn't fit into where i want to go in life.

Thus...I'm done with it :)

[Fire_Crotch132074]

damn I didn't think this would get to much attention... But its nice to get people in a discussion thing. Welp anyways thanks for all this info on how your 420 was and what you think about drugs.

[Faery-Wings]

Danus and Ldy, I hear ya both. Last night I was sitting at dinner with my hubby, long haired, tattooed, heavy metal playing *ex* drug addict. He did everything except shoot heroin (cuz he was scared of the needle, which him being insulin dependent, amazes me!). Anyway, the coversation comes around to how much he regrets screwing up his life so much when he was on drugs. Here he thought all those years ago he was being tough and cool, etc and now, his one passion, music, is not where it could have been if he had put the time, effort, and money into that instaed of drugs. He hates his job but is stuck b/c he isn't qualified to do anything else, being that he barely graduated form HS.

It is so sad to see him look back on his life and *regret* so much of it. Too much of it. And of course, back then, he didn't care at all.

I know this has nothing to do with 420, so to get a bit On Topic- thanks for letting me "know the code." I feel so old somedays and waaaay out of the loop. :p

Chris

[Psyche Ague]

Actually, being 16 (or younger) and in rehab is not that unusual. I have a few friends who have been in jail or rehab (for heroin) when they were 16. Multiple times. My town is nothing big at all. I can't imagine how often it happens in more densely populated areas.

[Phoenix Blue]

It may not be unusual, but it's still kinda sad. . . :(

[MammaStar]

Originally posted by Phoenix_Blue
It may not be unusual, but it's still kinda sad. . . :(

Exactly Phoenix. Very sad. At 16 you're supposed to be hanging with your friends, going to the mall, getting your license. Not sitting in a friggin AA meeting. or going to visit your bro in a rehab & having to sit through an Alanon meeting just to be able to say hi. **side note, at the time my "bro" was in rehab, he wasn't my bro yet....my mom didn't take him in until a year later. So at this time just to see a friend I had to sit in stupid meetings**

Chryssi, I so know what you mean, and I bet another member, a friend of ours, can relate to it as well. Some of the things I did, I do regret, deeply (i.e., smoking while pregnant) and then there a things I don't. I try not to dwell on it, because, I worked real hard to get where I am now. It's still not the greatest situation, but it's a LOT better where I was 3 years ago.

[Semele]

Originally posted by Akasha
I heard that it was Jim Morrison's death day as well.

NO NO No!!!! He died on July 3, 1971. If you must slander the man...get it right!! ;)

Long live the Lizard King!!!!!!

sorry.....now back to your regularly scheduled programming!

Semele

[cybadiva]

Kaylara said...
I don't use drugs, and haven't for a long time. I saw what it did to me, and I saw what it did to friends and family members... I don't need very enhancement of my natural gift to see energy, and a little alcohol will do that for me...

What do you reckon alcohol is?
Also, comparing the effects of using cannabis to using hemlock, mandrake or foxglove is like comparing lemonade shandy to poteen imo.
If I could be bothered, I could produce a load of statistics from various sources comparing the harmful effects of cannabis to that of alcohol and nicotine/the crap in ciggies and the results would show that the latter two are far more dangerous. But I won't unless you really want me to - and before anyone makes the crack that I can't be bothered 'coz I'm too stoned and lethargic then I'll say it right now.....don't smoke (nicotine or cannabis), don't even drink much - very boring and goody goody really
:D

Phoenix_Blue I wasn't getting at you - I thought your point was a timely warning, a nice reminder that free speech is alive and well...NOWHERE;) But seriously, I really wish there were places where people could discuss issues such as these in anopen manner without worrying about the Thought Police kicking their door down, and the 'net seemed like such a good place for that......nevermind <braces herself for a stint in room101:eek:>
Actually I wasn't 'getting at' anyone - just sensed a negative feeling about the herb thas'all:)

Manstranger - :rotfl:
Psyche Ague - thanks for the support :p