how do you use tarot decks?

[harrypottertew]

first of all i have a dragon tarot deck, i have no idea how to use it and i would like to do a three card draw though. i have read about reading the decks, but i do not know how to start one. "thinking" do i have to read a chant and or ask or mentally think of the question i want or something?:idea:

[Astara Seague]

most decks come with a book that tells you ways to read them,
I always use the celtic cross spread in my regular readings, and I do have a sort of prayer I start with, but you can do what ever works for you

cards can be used for many things and many different types of readings
if you dont have a booklet of instructions, maybe you should look for a book somewhere on your deck

[LisaT4P]

1. Which dragon deck? The Peter Praconwick one?

2. Get a good tarot book. If you search in the Tarot FAQ you should see a few threads with book recommendations.

3. Everyone does things a little differently, but the general idea is to concentrate on your question, then assign the positions to the cards (three card draw: 1st card = past, 2nd card = present, 3rd card = future). Lay out the cards and see if you can get any ideas from the imagery / symbolism. Write down what you see. Check against your LWB (little white book that comes with your deck) and see if there's any other info. you want to write down. Make sure you are using the interpretation of the card in conjunction with the card's position.

4. There are no chants, invocations, incenses, music, etc. that are necessary, but some people find that doing these types of things helps them get into a better frame of mind for reading. I'd suggest trying with and without and see what works best for you.

5. Check the Tarot FAQ for other threads and questions by newbies, there's lots of great info.

6. Read and join in the discussions that are already in progress. See the stickies @ the top of the forum for the Study Group.

7. Journal. Write down all of your readings!

[MankyCat]

first of all i have a dragon tarot deck, i have no idea how to use it and i would like to do a three card draw though. i have read about reading the decks, but i do not know how to start one. "thinking" do i have to read a chant and or ask or mentally think of the question i want or something?:idea:


In regards to the question... I don't ask one. People that I read for understand this. My explanation is that a lot of times what we think is a priority is actually NOT what we need to focus on. Sometimes we blind ourselves from the bigger issues by getting caught up in the smaller ones. Sometimes, by focusing on the 'correct' issues, the other problems will fall into place on their own.

It's never let me down.

That's not to say that some peopel still feel the need to ask something in particular. I'll still do the reading. But my cards are as tenacious as some of the entities I work with (and a bit spoiled in some respects). They still will sometimes choose to go their own way and say what is more important that *fill in the blank*.

[harrypottertew]

i just did a reading yesterday and the cards read in order. in the past: magick happenings, present: depression, future: devotion. what does this really mean. sure i had some magickal experience in the past, not sure if i have a depressive state right now, and for the future i am loyal to the dragons, even though i have not made contact with them, still working on that.

[LisaT4P]

We have absolutely no way of knowing that unless you post your entire reading. If you don't feel comfortable doing that, you can PM it to me and I'll be happy to take a look at the cards you pulled.

[MankyCat]

i just did a reading yesterday and the cards read in order. in the past: magick happenings, present: depression, future: devotion. what does this really mean. sure i had some magickal experience in the past, not sure if i have a depressive state right now, and for the future i am loyal to the dragons, even though i have not made contact with them, still working on that.

I never much liked the 3 card method. I used an altered form of the celtic cross (altered to the point that the spread looks completely different but makes more sense to me). The only time I use the 3 card method is as a means for a deeper understanding of certain cards (like figuring out who is being discussed in certain face cards).

The 3 card method is usually pretty vague unless you have something specific in mind. Even then, sometmes more cards need to be pulled to get a more complete story. (Then again, like I said, I don't like the three card method.)

[harrypottertew]

so for a beginner, what kind of deck should we have? then when we get more advanced what kind of deck should we use then? so if i modify a draw, like mankaycat did then would that still work for a card draw? also if i asked the same question "after the first" to the tarot cards, should i get the same cards as the first? well i didn't. maybe it is my technique or something. i lay the cards on my bed "scattered everywere and mixed up" then i ask the question aloud, i move my hand over the cards and feel something pulling my hand for the first card. then the second time i move for the present card i get nonthing, not a twinge or anything. same with the third. so any suggestions on tarot draw will be helpful. :lol:

[LisaT4P]

so for a beginner, what kind of deck should we have? Please see the Tarot FAQ for a list of threads on this subject.then when we get more advanced what kind of deck should we use then? that is completely up to you.so if i modify a draw, like mankaycat did then would that still work for a card draw? yes, chaging existing spreads to better suit your needs is a common practice. Please see the Tarot Spreads FAQ also if i asked the same question "after the first" to the tarot cards, should i get the same cards as the first? not necessarily. well i didn't. maybe it is my technique or something. i lay the cards on my bed "scattered everywere and mixed up" then i ask the question aloud, i move my hand over the cards and feel something pulling my hand for the first card. then the second time i move for the present card i get nonthing, not a twinge or anything. same with the third. so any suggestions on tarot draw will be helpful. :lol:Please see the Tarot FAQ section on Shuffling.

[MankyCat]

so for a beginner, what kind of deck should we have? then when we get more advanced what kind of deck should we use then? so if i modify a draw, like mankaycat did then would that still work for a card draw? also if i asked the same question "after the first" to the tarot cards, should i get the same cards as the first? well i didn't. maybe it is my technique or something. i lay the cards on my bed "scattered everywere and mixed up" then i ask the question aloud, i move my hand over the cards and feel something pulling my hand for the first card. then the second time i move for the present card i get nonthing, not a twinge or anything. same with the third. so any suggestions on tarot draw will be helpful. :lol:

Just my take on these questions (not trying to step on LisaT4P toes)...

For beginners, there are a number of good decks out there. Some that people suggest, I wouldn't and I'm sure vice versa. My first deck was the Hanson Roberts deck. (If you want to get technical, I actually started reading with normal cards... but that's beside the point.) Rider-Waite is usually a good deck to start with. Some prefer the Dragon Deck. There are a good number of decks. My suggestion is to just go with the one that speaks most strongly to you. Look online at images of the decks. Feel them out at the store. If you choose one that's a little harder to work with in the beginning, then that's not really a big problem. You'd just need to put a little more effort into learning with them, but sometimes, that teaches you all the better.

As you advance in learning to read the cards, you might feel pulled to buy another deck. There is nothing really that says that you need to have another deck or that you can't continue using the deck you used to begin with (or that other's typically suggest to beginners). But if you feel the need to get another deck as you develop your skills, just look into the images of the decks and go with the one that feels the best when you go to pick one up.

Being attuned to your deck is much more important than how pretty the pictures are on the cards.

I would suggest using a basic spread (draw) when first starting out. Celtic Cross is usually a good one to learn. There are a number of other spreads that might catch your fancy or that you feel more drawn to. Try them out. There is no right or wrong when learning all this. Experiment a bit. A lot of people develop their own style, but a lot of people stick to the basics styles. Again, there is no right or wrong in that.

Likely you won't get the same cards as you did in the first reading if you ask the same question again. You might get a couple. Heck they might be in the same spot. Typically, though, it's considered best to avoid asking the same question in a short period. (I know people who have decks that get "annoyed" if that happens too much.)

For pulling the cards, perhaps the reason you aren't getting the same 'twinge' is because the present and the future aren't as 'solid' as the past. I used to do the 'feel the cards' pulling, but have since just done the off the top of the deck' pull. It works better for me. Several other readers I know do it this way to. Not only is it simpler, but it's the mindset of "the cards will set themselves." But that's just how we feel about it.

[kotu]

i just did a reading yesterday and the cards read in order. in the past: magick happenings, present: depression, future: devotion. what does this really mean.

lesson one: question marks!

magick happenings: your introduction to magick!

depression: could things be better in some way?

devotion: maybe devotion to something will lead you out of the depression (if it exists)

I'm not sure how you got those interpretations for ordinary tarot cards though! It sounds like you were using the oracle deck I invented!

[harrypottertew]

i have been using a mini version of the "dragons tarot" copyrighted by lo scarabeo, not sure if that helps. the tarot cards in order: the moon, the ten of wands, then the knight of chalices. hope that helps. also if i do the draw again, should i get the same cards?

[MankyCat]

What was your question for the reading (or did you have a question)?

Sometimes you will draw the same cards the second time, sometimes you won't. If you do, sometimes that means it's something in particular you need to be aware of (as one very gifted lady told me).

[kotu]

i have been using a mini version of the "dragons tarot" copyrighted by lo scarabeo, not sure if that helps. the tarot cards in order: the moon, the ten of wands, then the knight of chalices. hope that helps.

OK

Seems like some of your card definitions may be a bit unusual.. im guessing that's down to the peculiarities of your deck. Can you tell me any more about it? I'm slightly concerned about the meanings you gave for the cards. For card definitions I'd be slightly happier with, have a look here...

http://www.learntarot.com/cards.htm



also if i do the draw again, should i get the same cards?
How many times in a row?

[MankyCat]

http://www.learntarot.com/cards.htm


http://www.tarot.com is a good source too, and you might be able to look up the definitions with a pretty good descriptions (for specific decks or for general concepts). There are a lot of deeper meanings in those three cards in general though I'm not familiar with that specific Dragon Deck.

[Taliesyn]

okay, the Tarot Faq is probabally a good place to start, and everyone's advice is great- here's mine:

first, get a good book on tarot, and a straightforward deck, like the Rider Waite, the Hanson-roberts, or the Morgan Greer. these are basic, easy to understand tarot decks.
now, with your deck and book, page through and read each meaning while looking at the card. try to understand the symbolisim and how it speaks to you about the meaning of the card. this will help your subconcious to connect to the cards.

As for reading, and how to do it, well, each reader has their own little ritual. I'll share my way.

FIrst, My deck is kept in a wooden box. I only take it out when I'm using it, and no-one touches it unless they are shuffling for their reading. I also lay out my cards on a cloth- a plainly colored one is good, but I use a piece of tartan- it is actually from an old kilt I wore to rituals till it wore out.
before I begin to read, I light a peice of sage (to clear the air) and take a moment to ground and center my energy.
now I shuffle my deck, just like cards. I shuffle until I feel the cards begin to "slip" - like they are floating. then I give the cards to the QUerent, either to shuffle (if I feel so guided) or to cut the cards. then I pickl the cards up, thump them with a finger, and begin the reading. (I don't know why I thump the cards- but if I don't my readings are a bit off- I guess this is a subcoincious cue to beging the reading)

I recomennd that you take your time reading. look at each card as it relates to the position it is in. look at how it relates to the others around it. oh- and practice- alot.

[Taliesyn]

i have been using a mini version of the "dragons tarot" copyrighted by lo scarabeo, not sure if that helps. the tarot cards in order: the moon, the ten of wands, then the knight of chalices. hope that helps. also if i do the draw again, should i get the same cards?

I hate to read over anyone's shoulder, but let me see if I get what you are saying.
Past- The Moon

Present- 10 wands

future- Knight cups

To me , this would mean:
in the past, you focused deeply on your psychic, intuitive side. you were a dreamer.
now, in the present, you feel like you have a heavy burden, that your thoughts weigh heay and that you feel like you don't have any help.
the knight in hte future tells me that you should try to come to terms with this feeling of solitude- that by learning to accecpt yourself and your feelings you can begin to find the path to emotional fufilment.

oh- I find that the fewer cards, the harder and more vague the reading:hahugh:

[MankyCat]

As for reading, and how to do it, well, each reader has their own little ritual. I'll share my way.


I always find it interesting to read how other people do things, no matter how similar or how very different. Thanks for sharing all of that.

[MankyCat]

Something my older sister taught me ages ago was a game that I use now when I show people how to read the cards (when they feel more comfy with the deck they primarily use). You take two different decks, pull out the same card in each and see what key similarities and differences jump out. Then do it again. You can do this alone or with someone else (which can actually add an interesting perspective). Of course, it helps that I have a good number of different decks. But with the use of the internet (and tarot websites that give images and card descriptions/interpretations), you can still play this game if you only own one deck.

This also helps with the "deck in your mind" thing that another poster mentioned. When I read for people, I will sometimes mention, "More traditionally, this card shows..." or "In another deck of mine, this card would show..." Sometimes the card I pull is supposed to trigger that and I will interpret that thought-card along with the card I'm reading.

Thought this might be of some help.

[harrypottertew]

i will try to put in a picture of my tarot deck into the conversation, if this site allows me to. sounds like everyone here has not heard of my tarot deck. anyway i will try to get my digital camera working again and take the front picture of the tarot deck, hopefully. anyway, there are a couple of pictures of a few of my tarot deck, hope that helps anyone.:)

[Taliesyn]

Dude! we are trying to help you! how about replying to all the folks who are giving you the benifits of their hard-earned experience? nothing is free- it requires hard work, study, and well, you know- effort.

[harrypottertew]

i have been studying for quite a while, and i have no idea what i am doing. so please do not bark at me, i am doing the best i can:noway:. i am still new at this. so be patient with me please, thankyou.

[wolf]

LS decks come with very small, very sparse little white books. Fortunately, however, the cards themselves are so well-drawn that they lend themselves to interpretations ... interpretations that will grow as you become more experienced, both with tarot, as well as with other magickal pathworking.

A lot of readers will tell you that you have to get a Rider Waite Deck, and you have to spend hours upon hours learning numerology and symbology ... you don't.

Your one deck is fine enough. I happen to enjoy the LS Dragons as well, but I know I don't read with them anywhere near often enough ... perhaps getting the mini will help me with this, since they would be easier to carry around in my purse.

[wolf]

Lay the cards out however you feel they should be ... be relaxed and fluid and just get to know your deck! One card, three card, ten card ... whatever. Lay them in a pattern of the wheel of the year and write down your reading, or photograph it and check back through the year to see how your interpretation worked out.

I have a lot of trouble with the celtic cross, things seem to get terribly muddled.

There are some books of spreads available, as well as a lot of different ideas in the spread of the week threads here.

[LisaT4P]

i have been studying for quite a while, and i have no idea what i am doing. so please do not bark at me, i am doing the best i can:noway:. i am still new at this. so be patient with me please, thankyou.No one is barking @ you. You just need to acknowledge that you have already received quite a bit of information and we've pointed you to where you can find more. If you don't take the time & effort to go look and read and learn, then there's really nothing that we can do about that.

I sent you a response privately last week and I'm wondering if you've read it? And, as far as I know, at least 2 people have offered you their opinions and interpretations of your reading and you have not responded to either one saying whether or not the interpretations made any sense or were accurate or even to thank them for their efforts.

Everyone here has been very patient, I believe, we'd just like for you to say thank you and then go and put our advice to work.

In your profile you say that you want to be trained for free. We are giving you lots of good advice and pointing you in the direction where you can get all kinds of good info. that will help you with your journey. That is about as close to "free training" as you're going to get. I can't just wave my magick wand and download all of the information into your brain. You have to go and find the information and absorb it yourself.

Astara Seague, Kotu, Manky Kat, Taliesyn, Wolf and myself (sorry if I missed someone) have tried to get you started. The rest is up to you.

[MankyCat]

I did a quick search online and found the Moon card for your deck. That card alone speaks of so much more than what you got from the little booklet that came with the deck.

Best thing to do is to draw down the layout, mark down what cards were where (or take a photo and use that to show both) and write down what the cards were seem to be trying to tell you.

Some people will randomly draw one card a day or a week and at the end of said time period will mark down what occured that day or week that was in line with that card. This helps them get a better feel for each card and what they are trying to say. I don't do this, but it seems to work for some people.

Again, I can't really help without seeing the actual cards in the layout and knowing if you had a specific question you asked them or not. Even then, each deck will tend to speak to the each reader differently. How I interpret one card is dependent on several factors (position in the spread (though I don't read reverse for due to my beliefs of the cards), the image on the card which can vary greatly from one deck to another, and what key symbols jump out most or trigger certain memories or thoughts).

How I read one card may be very different than how another person might read it.


Please do let us know if any of this (what other people or I am suggesting in regards to your posts). It's hard to help someone when you don't know how on or off target you are. Also, I believe in reciprocation, which means that for what I give, I believe I should get something back and vice versa. I'd like to hear back on whether this is all helping of not, in return for all the info we've been giving. Thanks.

[harrypottertew]

i am sorry for everyone here that i did not say thanks to personally, i just been "confined in my self" it is hard for me to show gratitude since i grew up in such a hostile life and family. i just... i don't know how to say this but i......... it's been racking my brain. i have lived in the dark for more than 12 years and i must refresh my memory here and there, so if i am being impolite let me know, usually i will catch my self. i've been so rude to you all, i am very sorry for that, in the deepest channels of my heart i am sorry. it's been so long since anyone cared for what i do.:lookaroun no one really cared but you ladies and gentlemen. i am truely sorry if i have showen any disrespect to you. no one really knows what i am going through right now. anyway,.... so for the tarot cards, do i have to memorize every meaning of each card in order for it to give me a correct response? i will try to memorize the deck in a week or two, also i will post up some of the pictures i drew from the deck. i will also try to show or tell you how i do the readings in specific manners. just "if you will" please give me some time to recuperate. i feel desgusted at my self for my rudeness.....:ggrief: "sorry"

[kotu]

You don't need to memorise the cards

[LisaT4P]

anyway,.... so for the tarot cards, do i have to memorize every meaning of each card in order for it to give me a correct response? i will try to memorize the deck in a week or two, also i will post up some of the pictures i drew from the deck.I'm going to refer you to the FAQ, again. This time I'll even be really patient and give you a list of the threads that are associated with the questions you're asking. Read them, please. I've spent quite a bit of time putting the FAQ together, I'd really like to know that people use it.

Need to learn tarot? Help for Newbies

Is There Any Easy Way to Memorize Tarot Cards? (http://www.mysticwicks.com/showthread.php?t=107044)

I’m Learning How (http://www.mysticwicks.com/showthread.php?t=60799)

breaking away from the book! (http://www.mysticwicks.com/showthread.php?t=59596)

Memorization (http://www.mysticwicks.com/showthread.php?t=22691)

Memorizing Meanings (http://www.mysticwicks.com/showthread.php?t=10982)

I still don’t get it… (http://www.mysticwicks.com/showthread.php?t=149344)

Advice? (http://www.mysticwicks.com/showthread.php?t=135474)

Tarot Book of Shadows (http://www.mysticwicks.com/showthread.php?t=116450)

How do you understand the tarot? (http://www.mysticwicks.com/showthread.php?t=27361)

Help for Newbies (http://www.mysticwicks.com/showthread.php?t=6364)

How did you learn to read the cards? (http://www.mysticwicks.com/showthread.php?t=63715)

How To Tarot (http://www.mysticwicks.com/showthread.php?t=56758)

reading accuracies (http://www.mysticwicks.com/showthread.php?t=19590)

What’s helped you? (http://www.mysticwicks.com/showthread.php?t=2713)

Tarot / Numerology Exercise (http://www.mysticwicks.com/showthread.php?t=74386)

[MankyCat]

Everyone has their own stories and hardships. Don't be too hard on yourself.

It's good to have some understanding of the card's traditional meaning. Keep in mind though that each deck places a different emphasis on each card and might even include some images that can open up different ways to interpret them. Having a basic understanding of the card's traditional meaning gives you good footing, but don't limit yourself to what the pamphlet says. Remember, all the interpretations can be traced back to someone's opinion of what the cards are saying. Your opinion is no less valid, especially when your connection with the deck (or the position of the cards) guides you to interpret the cards differently. There are several cards where the interpretation of the cards have changed over time. The Lovers and The Magician are only two of such cards.

I look forward to seeing the spread you drew out and also reading how your method of drawing the cards and reading them so far.

[Taliesyn]

s'okay- we all have issues. just try and listen to what folks are saying.

no, you certianly don't need to memorize the cards for them to work- it took me about 6 months of reading every day to do that- but you should invest in a better book than the one that comes in the deck.keep the book and a blank notebook with your cards, write down the readings and your interpretation (based on the meanings in the other book) in the notebook, along with the question you had. that way, as you do more and more readings, you will be able to look back at the meanings you have come up with in readings past. just one more trick to learn all the cards.

[harrypottertew]

thankyou LisaT4P (http://mysticwicks.com/member.php?u=4078), i will start reading today, "if the computer dosent spike or die out on me." it may take me a while so i may not be able to reply to the threads as much. :idea: vbmenu_register("postmenu_3090983", true);

[LisaT4P]

You are very welcome, I hope you can find some of the answers you're looking for. There are lots of older conversations with member who are no longer here, but their advice is still relevant. That's why I love the FAQ, way more perspectives to choose from! :)

[harrypottertew]

okay, i feel like my eyes are going to explod like my old chevy.:hmmmmm: i thought about the whole thing yesterday, very helpful information. i believe i understand most of it, give me until monday to configure any questions i may have. i like to think what i read before moving on. i read every thread that was given to me for the last couple of days. i thank you for that info. i must not realize that the FAQ was so helpful. anyway yeah my eyes gotta heal for a day or two. read so much in such a little time. oh.... i am in the process of making a little movie clip to show you what i do for a three card draw. hopefully it will load when i am done and not tooo large for the message.

[harrypottertew]

i just did a draw, the first card is high priestess, the second card is the six of chalices, and the third is the "justice" card. my interp. is that i had a gift in my youth and that i find peace. in the future is justice, still confused about that one. thinking that there will be justice for someone or something. below are the cards steps in wich i did. readying, smoking and purifying the cards, put them in three rows, asked the question "where do i stand at magick?" then the three cards showen below.

[wolf]

You can look at your reading in several different ways. One way is based on the traditional Rider Waite meanings of the cards you drew. That's what all the books will give you. The LS decks, as I mentioned, all being a little ideosyncratic, go totally different places with the meanings ... look carefully at the artwork. Toss the LWB in the drawer, it doesn't really have much to say. Check it occasionally if you need prompts beyond the artwork. Take a look at what you've got there ...

So "Where do you stand on Magick?"

May I assume that three cards means past-present-future?

High Priestess ... Contentment, bounty, everything you need, rest, safety ... so, your youth was protected, you didn't want for much of anything, but you were not yet awaked into your powers

Six of Chalices ... You are taking a drink at a new well, or finding refreshment on your journey ... you begin your studies in magick, or find some new path that seems to lead to easier successes, but don't fully comprehend the implications. There are dangers that you are unaware of (did you see the scorpion by the man's heel?) Be very careful about choices of seemingly easy but false paths to power.

Justice ... If you continue on this way, if you do not learn discernment, there are dangers for you ... either you will bite off more than you can chew (being the knight in the image), or you will become drunk with power and control, and lay waste to what is before you (being the dragon), perhaps even causing harm to those that you most love (the village is representative of people in your life ... friends, family ... you may not burn them to the ground, but you could find yourself isolated and alienated from them.

[harrypottertew]

wholly cray a scorpion..... "pulls deck out and ruffles throught the deck." wow!!! i did not see the scorpion, i was tired then when i drew the cards, i must of thought it was part of the mans shadow, wonder what else i missed? "pulls out a magnifying glass out" hmmmm.... i just looked more carefully at the hight priestess, the stars are actually "jewls" that probably meant riches or something. okay i will reflect on what you said wolf, "starts pacing room......" i will study somemore.

[MankyCat]

Sending you an email here. Let me know if you did not receive it.

[harrypottertew]

does anyone see anything wolf or MankyCat (http://mysticwicks.com/member.php?u=22870) vbmenu_register("postmenu_3095380", true); or i missed? i think that is all, but not really sure

[wolf]

I would encourage you to keep up with the three card readings! In fact, you might want to post them including your own interpretation, and ask for commentary, as you did here.

The better you know your deck, the better your readings will become. Get a blank book, and make a page for each card. (Okay, I'm old fashioned. You can do this as a word processing file or a blog too.) Write down your impressions of the card ... what you see, what it tells you ... don't rush through this. Do between one and three a day (A lot of people suggest only one, but I'm not that patient, personally).

By the end, you'll have your own guide to your deck! You can re-do this exercise using the same blank book ... you'll probably see new things or draw new conclusions each time that you look at a card.

[harrypottertew]

i just got a same pair of cards, a two card draw i got from "lotus tarot.com" i recieved a death and a shield card. i really do not know what they really mean. sure i know it is a new beggining, but potection from something.

[wolf]

It's hard to say without knowing the exact imagery ... yes, death = change/transition

[harrypottertew]

i'll try to find the cards over the net, camera broken.
the death card and the two of swords, the swords are crossing eachother underneath a shield with a dragon logo on the shield. wish i could find it for you.

[wolf]

You can become so busy defending against change that you miss the important lessons ...

[harrypottertew]

anyone who is looking at this thread or has replied to this thread, i will be taking a break from Tarot. for this reason: i have been really depressed lately. as soon as i see hope, it just turns into a much worse situation. if you want to see what is bothering me lateley, go to "mw helping hands" i believe it is called" so, ya i am going to take a breake for a while, or at least i can regain my focus. sorry for any inconvenience._inabox_

[harrypottertew]

i am going to restart a spread of the tarot deck. i have been feeling much better now. i will start a spread tommorrow and hopefully this crappy little camera will work and get you all a good picture to see what i have drew from the deck. :wave:

[harrypottertew]

my question was: will i have a mental breakdown?

i just pulled the king of swords for the past: The personality of the King of Swords is a combination of the positive air energy of the Swords suit (http://www.learntarot.com/swords.htm) and the active, outward focus of a King (http://www.learntarot.com/less3.htm#king). He is a man of intellect who can absorb and work with information of all kinds. As a master of reason and logic, he analyzes any problem with ease. He can work out solutions quickly and explain them lucidly to others. In a chaotic situation, he cuts through the confusion and provides the clarity needed to move forward. three of cups for the present:The helping of others in a time of need, a good work atmosphere, a good friendship, accomplishments with the support of such friendship, and the fool for the future:the Fool is the card of infinite possibilities. The bag on the staff indicates that he has all he need to do or be anything he wants, he has only to stop and unpack. He is on his way to a brand new beginning. But the card carries a little bark of warning as well. Stop daydreaming and fantasising and watch your step, lest you fall and end up looking the fool. so basically, what i think it means is that i had the ability to solve problems with ease while i work in a good atmospere but i have to watch my step for the future. hmmmm.... i used to solve problems with ease even today, i do have a good atmosphere because i got help from others over mw, in the future, i really need to watch were i do step. still thinking about it.

[MankyCat]

Pretty good interpretation thus far. I look forward to possibly seeing the cards themselves.

Without seeing the actual cards, here's some thoughts from the cards in my memory.

It's possible the King an authoritative figure that helped you resolve problems. Doesn't have to be a man, but usually is (could be a woman who has many masculine qualities in their nature). There usually is a coldness to him, as logic usually takes precedence over emotional matters. This might make them seem domineering or insensitive, but that might not be the case. Usually, they are the type to find the the fastest and most practical solution to ending a problem and doing just that. Look at the position the king sits in and his facial expression. Sometimes, this will give you a hint.

Three of cups is usually depicted as three people dancing with the cups held high. Again, I don't have experience with your specific cards, so I'm going by what I remember from several of mine. This card usually means a time of merriment, celebration.

The fool does mean infinite possibilities, but not necessarily knowing what you are getting yourself into. The problem with the fool is that he's usually so busy thinking of all the things he could be, that he doesn't pay attention to where he's going. Kinda like the high hopes of our youths, when we didn't realize all the work it takes to become a (cop, fireman, movie star, etc). He does carry a pack, but there's no way to know if he grabbed the necessary items. However, one gets the feeling that if he goes with the flow of things, he'll adapt and will be just fine. Usually there's a dog, jumping around at his feet. Sometimes, this could mean someone who would come with you on this journey if you let them, or someone you should not forget about when you head off on your new journey, or the voice of reason (you know that tiny voice that tries to keep us alert and grounded???). Definitely be aware of your surroundings. If you keep your head in the clouds and don't pay attention to what you are doing, you are bound to fall. The higher your hopes, the harder the fall. That little voice of reason could mean the difference between a great adventure or serious disillusionment.

So... this could relate to a number of things. Like your previous reading, then it could be talking about someone who acted as your guide of sorts (a role model, at least) who started you on your journey. The celebration could be the point where you start making your decision to go your own direction. This can be a great feeling. But be careful because you might not have all the tools you need or the as much understand as you think, but this is a good step for you, nontheless. However, all the changes can feel like you are caught in a whirlwind and chaos.

But I can also see this all having something to do with that awards celebration. The King (your boss), the 3 of cups (the awards), and the Fool (you moving on to something where you will feel more appreciated) seem all in line with that. (I'd almost say this is much more likely, but who knows). Also seemed to cause you a lot of stress and self doubt, but also could be an openning to better things.

All in all, I'd take it as a hopeful reading. Again, without the images, I can only go by what I feel and remember.

Good show, though. You did a really good job on your interpretation!

One side note: I usually avoid "Yes" or "No" questions. It can be hard for the cards to be that cut and dry.

[wolf]

You need to find a balance, between traditional tarot interpretations (which are based on the Rider-Waite Smith deck) and your LS Dragons. The imagery of the LS decks is not the same as that of the Rider Waite.

I have the same deck (okay, actually the full size version, harry is using the mini), So I've posted the images.

Look again ...

Past - King of Swords - You thought you had it all. You're looking back on the past and focusing on the good things, forgetting that all was not roses and light. You faced trials then too, but you moved beyond them. (You spent a lot of time in your head ... thinking about things, considering, imagining)

Present - Three of Cups - coming to terms with yourself, making piece with yourself ... there are still issues that you need to deal with, though, and something you haven't planned for will spring up when you least expect it.

Future - The Fool - Stuff happens. Those unexepected, and seemingly disastrous, circumstances can lead to a lot of growth, a lot of new adventures. You need to draw back far enough to see the big picture on something like that, though. Deal with situations as they arise. Don't get too wrapped up in looking around the next corner for something awful to happen ... it will sneak up behind you when you're engrossed in something else.

(if you think you're having a 'mental breakdown' go see a counsellor, therapist, or psychiatrist.)

[harrypottertew]

so what i have read in the threads, the questions answer is "no" right? the celebration and the king means moving past and celebration of what i have done, while the fool represents the act of acknologement of uncertain things. in short, it means that i will be happy yet weariry of my surroundings. if i am wrong, do please let me know. great news wolf. i thought i was the only one that had that kind of deck. whew, what a relief. this does help me immnensley. also, a quick question, does the larger version of the dragon tarot deck differ from the smaller version? i'm thinking it's not but me research say's different.

[MankyCat]

Thanks, wolf, for including the images. I will look at them more closely later. Seems I wasn't too far off from what I thinking, but there are some interesting extra bits in there.

[wolf]

also, a quick question, does the larger version of the dragon tarot deck differ from the smaller version? i'm thinking it's not but me research say's different.

They are supposed to have identical artwork, just printed at different sizes.

I have both, but haven't really checked one against the other.

[harrypottertew]

i have done another draw, except i did a one card draw. the question was "will my grandfather live till next year?" i got a death card. i decided to do take another card to verify it. another death card. impossible i thought, then i drew 3 more and the last three were the death cards except instead of the person, it was my grandfathers figure. i looked at the rest of my deck and it looked fine. i looked at the 5 cards i drew, 4 of them were now facing back side up, and the death card still laid face up. not really sure what to think of it.

[LisaT4P]

I'm confused. Are you saying that 5 out of 5 times you drew the Death card for this question? Or you drew 5 different cards that you personally associate with death?

[harrypottertew]

anyone who read my last thread, do please ignore. a special person thinks i was hullicinating. i might of been since i am not getting enough sleep, probably 3 hours tops a night. i will let you all know what happened when i go home, get some rest, and re-do the draw. i literally fell asleep on the road driving to school this morning. so, yeah if you would please ignore the last thread i did. i will let you all know what i drew as soon as possible.

[MankyCat]

anyone who read my last thread, do please ignore. Mankycat thinks i was hullicinating. i might of been since i am not getting enough sleep, probably 3 hours tops a night. i will let you all know what happened when i go home, get some rest, and re-do the draw. i literally fell asleep on the road driving to school this morning. so, yeah if you would please ignore the last thread i did. i will let you all know what i drew as soon as possible.


Hm... didn't think I came off quite like that. 8O

[harrypottertew]

hillucination: daysleeping- the ability to not know if the person is awake or asleep in a dream. also known as the id, ego, and super ego: in psychology terms. did not mean anything about that hun, just my defination of what you said earlier for anylisis.

[wolf]

You need to identify WHY you are only sleeping 3 hours a night. Go see your family doctor, and if necessary, a psychiatrist.

Don't let this become a bigger problem.

[harrypottertew]

i am going to a group therapist as i speak, it is a one week session and it stats at 4 and ends at 8 in the afternoon. started yesterday.:hahugh:

[harrypottertew]

okay, i just did a couple of draws yesterday. took a couple of pictures and the pictures in the camera will not come out. STUPID mini technology. all the pictures are dark and i myself cannot se the pictures. i have a list of what i drew but i do not have it with me at the moment. i will post the pictures another time today but i wil have them posted one way or another.

[wolf]

It is sometimes interesting to draw a card (or two or three) and look at how they relate to your current circumstances, to try to gain some insight into how you perceive things, and to assist you in problem solving or understanding of a situation, rather than trying to look at some future event.

[harrypottertew]

the first five sets of cards i drew were from lotusflower. "2 card draw, lets me know the major cards best opinion and the minor cards are the back up." the emperor/ infanta of swords, the hermit/ infanta of wands, judgement/ 7 of wands, the stars/ 4 of swords. the 5 card draw was in order, 7 of wands, the empress, the fool, kight of swords, the magician. the question was when and how would i stand powerful in magick/.

[wolf]

What do YOU think these cards are saying?

(If all you think about with respect to magick is power, then you've got some serious misperceptions about magick, and about power. Watch yourself. It's easy to feel powerless when you are young, and not like everyone around you. There will hopefully come a point where you revel in that, and find your own ways to express yourself. Power and control games over others are not the path.)

[harrypottertew]

i believe what the cards interp. for the 2 card draw are, crap teacher hanging over shoulder... will edit message as soon as possible.!!@!!!

[harrypottertew]

1st set is change of my ranks in magick, but superiority... not really sure what to think of it. 2nd draw, in search of dragon friend and that i will have liberated my self from fear, 3rd draw, closure of hate of cruelty-unfairness, 4th draw, rash behavior will change, 5th draw, luck comes my way through meditation. the 5 card draw is that i felt useless yet i have a drive for something but i do have to watch were i go, in the future knowledge only brings power. basically i have a lot of change coming my way but i have to watch my step though. i will be luck at some point in time and i will not have fear in my heart. i think that is right...:idea: :lol:

[MankyCat]

This might sound horrible, but... I think you might be focusing on magic a little too much.

Just my opinion on observing. Sometimes, the best way to improve your abilities is to improve your mundane world first and not worry so much about the magical world as much.

[harrypottertew]

:) :idea: i am used to cold hard reality alot. don't hide your opinions!!! like to know which step to take before i do step onto the different road i have taken!

[wolf]

Manky's got a very good point ... your mundane life has much more of an effect on your magickal life than you may understand. You grow in both, but not necessarily at the same rates. Definitely work on the 'ordinary' stuff first, though!

[harrypottertew]

so what you are saying is that i should try and focus most of the cards interp. into my mundane life? never really thought that my regular life affects my magick, will try a draw tommorrow and i will try and interp. it into my regular life.8O thanks for the insight, i would of never thought of that!

[MankyCat]

so what you are saying is that i should try and focus most of the cards interp. into my mundane life? never really thought that my regular life affects my magick, will try a draw tommorrow and i will try and interp. it into my regular life.8O thanks for the insight, i would of never thought of that!

That's one way to look at it, but also you might want to actually look at what's going on in your mundane life and work on alleviating some of the things that are causing you distress, chaos, and stress.

Like I said, I think you are focusing too much on your magical workings and not enough on your mundane world.

Another thing to consider is to first try to do things on the mundane level, and use magic when the mundane doesn't work. That's how a number of people (including myself) operate and for good reason.

[LadyCelt]

I came up with an idea. Not sure if it would work. But, to use it like a yes/no pendulum. Maybe put the card repressenting the issue to be the one to be drawn first. And then, a card for yes and a card for no. These could show what may happen if you choose yes or no.