Michael W. Ford

[Semjaza]

I wasn't sure whether I should stick this in Books or here, but oh well.

Anyone have any thoughts on this guy or his books (Liber HVHI, Luciferian Witchcraft), etc? They looked intriguing...

Cheers,

Semjaza

[Rudas Starblaze]

ive never heard of him. but to be honest, to some people, Lucifer really has nothing to do with satanism. but, i will keep this here for those who would be interested. if you want, feel free to post an identical thread in books if ya want to. it wouldnt hurt!;)

[Stormbeard]

I've not heard of the guy.

However, as Rudy said, we'll leave the thread here. I believe since it's about Lucy it's relevent. :devil:

[David19]

I have heard of him, although I haven't read any of his books yet, but I do intend too, they look very interesting and cool.

Sorry I can't give more of an opinion, but I'm sure someone here has to have read one of his books, at least.

[morganxpage]

His books are on a form of Satanism, and from what I hear, it's all hogwash. That said, I have yet to read them myself.

[Shield_Wolf]

I've herd of him, though I haven't read any of his book yet ether. And I've herd good things about the books from people I know.

[Sesen]

:lol: Well add me to the list of people who have never read his books. I hadn't heard of the guy until I read this thread. Last night, however, I was reading a few articles on this site I came across, and they were written by Michael W. Ford. If you haven't read them already, they might give a better idea of what his books are like. http://algol.chaosmagic.com/articles.htm

[Shield_Wolf]

:lol: Well add me to the list of people who have never read his books. I hadn't heard of the guy until I read this thread. Last night, however, I was reading a few articles on this site I came across, and they were written by Michael W. Ford. If you haven't read them already, they might give a better idea of what his books are like. http://algol.chaosmagic.com/articles.htm

Thank you for the link. I was trying to find it before, I thought I had it booked marked but guess I was wrong. I do now though.

[David19]

Thanks for the link too, Sesen, some of his articles are really cool.

[Russ]

His books are on a form of Satanism, and from what I hear, it's all hogwash. That said, I have yet to read them myself.

From what I know it's based off of Chaos Magick. So it could all be hogwash... The question is "How well does the hodwash work?"

[AnaRQy]

Wow, a Satanism forum that's never heard of Michael Ford, and someone who'd never read anything he wrote yet calls his works hogwash? Quite interesting!

Michael's books could be considered Satanic as most left hand path beliefs go, but his subject matter is about Predatory Spiritualism and Persian Sorcery aka Yatuk-Dinoih. The reason his book is called Luciferian Witchcraft is because the archetypes of Satan/Lucifer/Lilith are actually Hebrew representations of the Persian deities Ahriman/Az. So, Luciferian or Satanist is a term people understand in modern times, but the basis of his book predates Abrahamic religions.

As for myself, I own every one of his books in hardcover, as well as the ritual musick he puts out under project names Black Funeral, Psychonaut 75, Hexentanz, and Ordo Tyrannis. For more details on his works, please visit luciferianwitchcraft.com.

Ave Satanas!

[Stormbeard]

To be honest, I couldn't care less what the guy has to say on Satanism. I am a Satanist because that's the name which fits the beliefs to which I subscribe. I did not decide one day to simply be a Satanist. I have nothing to research.

Also, Satanic Rituals are ridiculous. No ritual is neccessary.

[Russ]

To be honest, I couldn't care less what the guy has to say on Satanism. I am a Satanist because that's the name which fits the beliefs to which I subscribe. I did not decide one day to simply be a Satanist. I have nothing to research.

Also, Satanic Rituals are ridiculous. No ritual is neccessary.

Only if your one of the Materialistic Atheistic types.

[Stormbeard]

I am atheistic. In fact, I think the entire idea of theology is ridiculous. That however, is for another thread, on a different website.

[AnaRQy]

To be honest, I couldn't care less what the guy has to say on Satanism. I am a Satanist because that's the name which fits the beliefs to which I subscribe. I did not decide one day to simply be a Satanist. I have nothing to research.

Also, Satanic Rituals are ridiculous. No ritual is neccessary.

If you don't believe in a deity called Satan, how are you a Satanist? That's like a Christian saying they don't believe in Christ, please explain.

[Stormbeard]

If you don't believe in a deity called Satan, how are you a Satanist? That's like a Christian saying they don't believe in Christ, please explain.
Do Muslims worship Musla?

If you think Satanism is about worshipping Satan, you are sorely mistaken.

[Russ]

Do Muslims worship Musla?

If you think Satanism is about worshiping Satan, you are sorely mistaken.

Actually he isn't. Atheistic Satanist are far in the minority.

[Stormbeard]

Actually he isn't. Atheistic Satanist are far in the minority.

Where are you getting your facts? The Church of Satan is the largest group of recognised Satanists, and that's an atheistic order.

[David19]

Where are you getting your facts? The Church of Satan is the largest group of recognised Satanists, and that's an atheistic order.

Just wanted to add something here, from what I've heard atheistic Satanism (not just Laveyan) is the largest offline, but online, there's a growing population of Theistic Satanists (and then you have the Temple of Set, which is, I think, big offline too).

[AnaRQy]

Do Muslims worship Musla?

If you think Satanism is about worshipping Satan, you are sorely mistaken.

The funny thing is that LaVey was secretly Theistic. He knew there was something more to the energy he was tapping into than pure psychodrama.

An interesting, albeit slightly biased, read on the early years of the Church of Satan, as well as some of the rituals pre-Satanic Bible:

http://www.xeper.org/maquino/nm/COS.pdf

Good for historical purposes, if not for a more behind the scenes look at the Church of Satan.

[David19]

The funny thing is that LaVey was secretly Theistic. He knew there was something more to the energy he was tapping into than pure psychodrama.

An interesting, albeit slightly biased, read on the early years of the Church of Satan, as well as some of the rituals pre-Satanic Bible:

http://www.xeper.org/maquino/nm/COS.pdf

Good for historical purposes, if not for a more behind the scenes look at the Church of Satan.

Thanks for that very interesting link, obvously, I haven't read it all yet, as it's 986 pages, but it seems quite cool, and I really want to learn more about the history of Satanism, like Lavey and a lot of other forms, especially Theistic.

[Stormbeard]

LeVey was interested in selling books. The Church of Satan is a ridiculous pantomime. And I'll say it again, ritual is pointless.

[Atheos]

His books are on a form of Satanism, and from what I hear, it's all hogwash.

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