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MammaStar
April 26th, 2002, 10:16 PM
Well, for those of you who remember, back in the Winter I was having a bit of trouble with my son's teacher. She was saying some inappropriate things. Especially regarding his father.

Well, she's at it again. This past week was the FINAL STRAW. I spoke with the Principal today. Her comments ranged from "But you can't play baseball on the weekend, you must go to church" to "Look at what baseball is doing to you. Ruining your mind & runining you physically".

Why did she say these things, well, my son LOVES baseball as much as I do (shocked aren't ya ;) ) and he started Little League this past week. He was so excited. Practically fell asleep the nite before opening day in his uniform (insert "awwwww's" here). Well, this past Tuesday, he got a fat lip. He was warming up with the rest of the kids and he didn't catch a ball the right way. It popped out of his glove & smacked him in the mouth. The result a fat lip. He was so tough. He cried for like 10 seconds & went on to play for the rest of the game. Didn't come to me once.

What happens when he goes back to school, the teacher BI***S at him. She's insisting that he & the other kids do not play their night games because of school. In fact, she specifically told me at the last parent teacher conference that she won't allow him to play on May 7th because the kids will be in the middle of a standarized state wide test. I told her simply, that he'll play. There is no problem. She didn't like that too much. Do I care? NOPE!

She also is telling me that she's "concerned" about a hobby my son has developed. He plays the same minature strategy game that Eshallet plays. It was Eshallet that taught him how to play and got him interested. It's a GAME. My son loves it. It's got his imagination going big time. He writes all kinds of stories about it and paints & plays & most importantly, HAS FUN. Well, because it involves "armies" & "tanks". the teacher is freaking out over it. She told me "well, as long as you are on top of things, but I just don't think it's a good idea for him." Well lady, you aren't his mother.

As you can see, the woman is a piece of work. Academically, she's a good teacher. My son has made AMAZING progress this year. Academically, his Dad & I are thrilled. But we're tired of this constant interference in our son's life from her. She's mentioned "church" & "religon" countless times and we're tired of it. I don't care anymore if it's a joke, I'm offended. AND, this has nothing to do with me being Pagan. My son's class has Christians, Catholics, Jewish & Muslim children in his class. A very diverse mix & I feel that she shouldn't push anything on these kids. And more importantly, IT'S ILLEGAL.

I told the Principal & she said she'll talk to the Teacher. I'm going to follow up with her next week sometime.

Thanks for letting me rant. I may even bump up the old thread for those of you interested.

Flaire
April 26th, 2002, 10:35 PM
I really think that teacher is stepping over her boundaries... Is it just your son she's targeting..or all the children in the class?

MammaStar
April 26th, 2002, 10:45 PM
Some were targeted directly at my son, other's were statements made in general. The "Baseball ruining your life..." was made directly to my son. The church crap is being said to the whole class.

funny, I just bumped up the old thread & I did EXACTLY what I said I was gonna. If she pulled this stunt again, to the principal I go.

It was bad this week, for my son at least, because after she said her piece, my son did not want to go to school for the rest of the week. He did of course, I mean, what else could I do? I don't have much choice, meaning that I don't have the luxury of staying home for 4 days & missing work. I did the next best thing & talked to his principal. Thank the Gods for his gym teacher though. My son's Gym teacher is a wonderful WONDERFUL man & human being. He had taken a liking to my son when he was in the 1st grade (he's in 4th now) and kind of kept him under his wing. My son has flourished under his guidance. This week, after he saw my son's lip & my told him about how he wants to work on his pitching skills, the teacher offered to work with him during Recess. My son was jumping up & down. I'm going to miss this guy when my son moves up to Middle school next year.

So for all the CRAP his regular teacher is giving him, he does have an ally to help him out when he needs it.

Flaire
April 26th, 2002, 10:57 PM
;) Just finished reading the other thread (again..forgot what all was said there before)..... She really does need a kick in the pants! I know it's supposed to be good for teachers to care about their students, but not that much! It's almost as if she's trying to be you...except to her views..

Yvonne Belisle
April 26th, 2002, 11:12 PM
If all else fails file a formal complaint and if it is not followed up on contact the school board. Don't forget to get statements from the other parents.

Lavender
April 26th, 2002, 11:35 PM
Your son's in grade 4! He needs to have other activities...like baseball. You did the right thing in going to the principal. The teacher should NOT be saying all those things to your son or the class in general. I hope he puts a stop to it. :mad:

Flaire
April 27th, 2002, 03:38 AM
:eek: Only Gr. 4? I thought he was in Gr. 7 ~ from when you said that it was his last year with the teachers... But I guess things are different in the States, than in Canada. :)

Wildchild's right...A growing boy *needs* physical & recreational activities..It just so happens that he likes baseball..:) That's great - its' a fun sport! And it seems like his gym teacher's making it nicer for him to play...so he doesn't get any more accidents...or not as bad anyway..


Cripes, that teacher is really pissing me off now too!! :meanhead:

Faery-Wings
April 27th, 2002, 07:06 AM
Starlite, that bites!You completely did the right thing. That woman has no right to saying anything. Baseball is good for kids and he obviously having a great time. And the church comments would make me upset too, Christian or Pagan.

Let us know what happens.

Chris

Flar's Freyja
April 27th, 2002, 10:06 AM
You're right - it IS illegal. And I've seen a lot of this in my part of the country, including social workers that I worked with in Child Welfare......there seems to be a basic assumption here that everyone is Christian, and Catholics and Jewish people are looked upon as Pagan......sounds like you've taken the appropriate steps and may have no choice but to file a formal complaint if it continues. That's a shame that she's such a good teacher otherwise.

I can't say enough positive things about involvement in sports, I raised three sons alone and it gave them discipline, a sense of mastery, exposed them to many positive male role models and kept them out of trouble after school......you're doing the right thing by supporting that.

:T I actually had an opposite experience once, my oldest had done something pretty serious and was supposed to be in in-house suspension. There was a big football game coming up and the coach and principal decided they needed him to play and released him early. The biggest problem I had with that was that they didn't say anything to me.

Chibi-Fallon
April 27th, 2002, 10:40 AM
Just be glad that your son's teacher doesn't have dead toenail necklace like my 4th grade teacher had. :eek: He was a scary, scary man. Be glad that he is getting a good education. I learned nothing in 4th grade, and the teacher was a creep. But I'd say report her. She can't say things like that.

WtchyChick13
April 30th, 2002, 02:14 AM
My dear sweet darling LdyStarlite,

I'm so sorry that you guys are going through this! Knowing you as long as I have, I REALLY feel sorry for the school--they have no idea who they are dealing with!!! lol

Although she is a good teacher, the separation between church and state must be stressed. It's not fair for her to put that kind of undo pressure on him, especially when he's so excited to be involved with the game!

I find it also strange that a teacher would want to stifle a child's imagination. (I refer to the game here.) Usually, we want our teachers to encourage that kind of behavior!

You are right. She is not his mother--she is his teacher.

I think you need to go and raise a little hell. Maybe if the principal doesn't listen this time, you can take it to the school board either publicly (at a meeting) or write to the head of the board and let them know what is going on.

Let us know what happens--I'm sending you biiiiiiig hugs!!!

(Boy, if our teachers from HS could only see us now! LOLOL)

Flar's Freyja
April 30th, 2002, 09:05 AM
Just occurred to me - you know, it's illegal here anymore to say a prayer at an athletic event over the PA system......they're still doing it anyway.........

Starry Di
May 2nd, 2002, 05:53 AM
I have a religion teacher (I go to a Catholic all Girls school ;)), who sees Paganism and Wiccaism as real religions and veiws their holidays as real holidays :) (she's catholic ;))

And about the whole religion in school thing....yeah, that is illegal to do that unless you are in a private school.

And how active the teacher is toward your son...that's just kinda freaky from my point of veiw : eek : Especially since he doesn't sound like he's hurting anyone or anything.

Have you seen a change in the teacher yet? :$

Margie
May 2nd, 2002, 08:26 AM
Originally posted by Freyja
Just occurred to me - you know, it's illegal here anymore to say a prayer at an athletic event over the PA system......they're still doing it anyway.........

If I were still in high school, I'd call the police ;)

And Starry Di, I think that is SO cool that your teacher (no offense, but especially a *Catholic* teacher) is so openminded!

Laiste
May 2nd, 2002, 07:45 PM
This teacher is some piece of work!! And I thought my son's teacher had issues! lol Ldystarlight let us know what the principal has to say about this whole issue. I would not back down on this at all! If he does not help then I would go to the Board of Ed and pursue this from there. I realize that there is only a short time left for the school year but it's still worth it!

MammaStar
May 2nd, 2002, 09:04 PM
Well, the Principal assured me that she would speak to the teacher. I haven't followed up yet, due to some family stuff (GOOD THINGS!!!). However, talking with my son the teacher has said nothing to him or the other students. On Monday nite, I saw one of his classmates and she said the teacher hasn't said anything.

So far so good. I will let you all know.