Kaliedascope Omens

[Earthcup]

Not all omens hit youover the head. In my experience you get lots of little ones that make sense to only you.

I'm going through a very omenous(?) period and at times I wonder whether I'm looking for patterns or the patterns are trying to find me...

Is it the same thing in the end? As long as you're finding what you need it doesn't really matter does it?

[Mithrea]

I think it is the same thing, Earthcup. I've been going through one of those periods lately. My omens have been mostly with my tarot cards but there have been thousands of other signs coming from all directions--all related to the same issue.

Whether the signs were sent to me by the Divine or my subconscious picked them out because they had meaning for me doesn't really matter because in the end, I listened to them, the problem straightened out and now the omen-sender (wherever they are) has become much less pushy for the time being.

The most important thing is not to ignore them.

[Flar's Freyja]

Very important. Last year, I was struggling with lots of issues on my job. I kept seeing huge crows that would just scream at me. I asked a Native American friend about this, and he asked me where I was seeing them ~ well, it was on the way to work, outside work, work-related places. To this day, the last time that happened was when I was putting the last of my stuff into my car when I resigned.

[Earthcup]

Gaia Consort has a song I like this rhyme in it:

One crow sorrow
Two crows mirth
Three crows a wedding
Four crows a birth

On a recent trip to a wedding I saw three crows and then a solitary crow a little farther down the road and I thought it was an omen for my cousin. Which had me wondering how my own life would turn out. Not a minute after I thought that I saw three crows and then two crows and then another set of two all about 600 ft apart. Quite freaky! :lol:

I think all patterns are important and should be listened to but every now and then I feel a need to check in with other people to make sure I'm not crazy or anything....:D

[Azure]

The older form of the rhyme is like this:

One for sorrow,
Two for joy,
Three for a girl
and four for a boy,
Five for silver
Six for gold,
and seven for a secret never told.

I'm all about omens or augeries these days too, perhaps because this has been such a tumultuous time in my life lately. Only recently have dreams and visions been part of it. I don't trust my tarot cards entirely right now, because I think they are too much reflecting my personal pain.

What I find is that 1. you can't manage augeries on demand, you just have to wait for what the Divine shows you.
2. It may not mean what you think it means, but keep trying to puzzle it out if it isn't obvious.

Today I stood out in the wind while a tornado wanted to form overhead, and the worlds of a chant came into my head - asking the help of the elements with a personal issue. All I can say is it was unbidden, but it worked.

I think, for whatever reason, a lot of people are having experiences where the Divine is taking an active interest these days.

[Earthcup]

That's interesting that we've both got love issues lately and omens popping up. Judging from the books on folklore I'd guess love and omens tend to go hand in hand..:)

Coming home last night there was a lot of sideways lightening, cloud to cloud, and when I got home I felt the need to use the storms energy for a ritual. I'd never used lightening energy before and it was a very powerful experience.

I'm not sure what it means but I've had a lot of odd interconnected happenings lately. I've had a strong feeling someone I hadn't seen for a long time was writing and only yesterday just happened to read that their book was coming out later this year. I keep running into parallel myths, stories and articles, there was even a book I bought for someone else last Christmas and borrowed from them a few days ago that had the same type of story in it.

I've stopped trusting my tarot but other peoples readings are echoing the omens I get.

It's good stuff but I can't seem to believe it. I feel as if I'm somehow manifesting what I want to hear. Which is ridiculous, I can't control birds and people.

You know I even avoided the bride's bouquet at that wedding only to have my sis trick me into catching her bridesmaids bouquet. I just keep getting all these signals and can't feel their prophecy materializing in my life. I just can't believe my luck is turning no matter how many good things happen...:(

[Flar's Freyja]

Originally posted by Earthcup
Gaia Consort has a song I like this rhyme in it:

One crow sorrow
Two crows mirth
Three crows a wedding
Four crows a birth

On a recent trip to a wedding I saw three crows and then a solitary crow a little farther down the road and I thought it was an omen for my cousin. Which had me wondering how my own life would turn out. Not a minute after I thought that I saw three crows and then two crows and then another set of two all about 600 ft apart. Quite freaky! :lol:

I think all patterns are important and should be listened to but every now and then I feel a need to check in with other people to make sure I'm not crazy or anything....:D

I'll need to dig out my book to make sure this is right, Laurie Cabot says that when you see a crow feather on your left there is danger ahead, on the right you're on the right path....'cept I never see feathers, just the birds as they don't seem to lose many.

I asked my friend once what three of them flying in two different directions means, :lol: mass confusion?

[Melysande]

It wouldn't surprise me if there isn't a new Cosmic Game strategy afoot. The various deities are reevaluating their key players (us), meting out rewards for good service, and giving pep talks to those who need to do better. I'm thinking there are important times ahead of us on this huge CandyLand/Chutes & Ladders/Chess/Monopoly Board called Earth.

As to Laurie Cabot... **grumbles** She's the one who can't get over how many crows she sees every day, and how mysterious it is that SHE always sees them. But I can tell you from personal experience: There is a huge crow/raven population in Salem. They're kind-of unavoidable. (Not that I ever wanted to avoid them. I like crows and ravens. Beautiful, intelligent birds. Right up there with parrots. Smarter in some cases.)

[Azure]

right there with you Melysande on all of it, even Laurie Cabot, who IMO is a shade too fond of herself.

I do think you're right on the Divine intervention thing - I feel like it's soooo out of my hands right now.

LoL Earthcup! Your bouquet story makes me laugh - I am a perpetual avoider of the brides bouquet, but at the wedding I was in a few months ago, I actually stood with the girls politely and just didn't catch instead of making a show of hiding.
Funny part was, the guy I was interested in was there with his GF and his friends made a big show of setting him up to catch the garter - at which point I sort of thought "well, any effort I make is pointless. . ." Even though set up, the garter had a will of its own and flew far away into the hands of the grooms seven year old nephew. And when the afore mentioned guy made an effort to find ME, who he hadn't seen since September, as soon as his girlfriend left the room, I began to understand. . .

And I think we know where I am now, head over heels, so anything can happen.

[Myst]

Originally posted by Melysande
As to Laurie Cabot... **grumbles** She's the one who can't get over how many crows she sees every day, and how mysterious it is that SHE always sees them.

Yup. Beautifully illustrates how sometimes people make omens out of random happenings.

I mean, if it means something to you, who cares if you're picking it up or Divine gives it. And if Divine is part of you (and everyone), that you notice at all maybe showing that it was a sending for you. As long as you don't base your life on these things, and learn from them, and seek new things because of them, who can say it's not valid? I guess we just have to use critical thinking - you know, balance the magic and fantasy with common sense :)

[Azure]

Nicely said, Myst.

[Flar's Freyja]

Very well said, balance is critical. Like when a tarot card spontaneously falls out of your deck, do you feel you have to read that one or just take it that you dropped a card on the floor...it's all up to individual intuition and interpretation......

I had quite an experience with crows, but don't freak out every time I see one. Monarch butterflies are one of my totems and have also signaled happy events.....but it doesn't mean that's what's going on every single time I see one.

[Azure]

Well, in that case. . . AHHH! Melysande. I just saw a *shivers* bunny!

(went through a serious period of bunny rabbit omens recently).

[Mithrea]

Originally posted by Azure
Well, in that case. . . AHHH! Melysande. I just saw a *shivers* bunny!

(went through a serious period of bunny rabbit omens recently).

I have been running across a ton of bunnies for the last couple of months! Does that mean something specific that I don't know about.

I've seen tons of crows too but I just figured it was the time of year for them. But the bunnies started early--about the same time I started having depression problems again. ??

[Azure]

Well, bunnies are, among other things, a fertility symbol. they also represent love, marriage, contentment, speed, and many other things. Perhaps that might be relevant. For me, they showed up as I began a new relationship, and seem to be a good omen.

If you're a Buffy the Vampire Slayer fan, of course, they may be an omen that the world is ending :)

[Melysande]

**giggles hysterically**

**sings** "...... except for bunnies."

[Azure]

Thank you Anya.

Maybe I need to find a bunny rabbit avatar. or maybe I should just use my bunny. . .

[Melysande]

I have a carved green jade bunny bead, if you'd like to make a charm out of it.

[Myst]

Yeah, bunnies keep on turning up for me, especially in tarot.

Err other then the bunny that I keep in my apartment. Heh. Some omen that'd be ;)

[Azure]

Sounds beautiful. But I have the funny (bunny?) feeling it's just as relevant for you right now. . .

sings:

"I can't see me lovin' no bunny but you. . ."

No! Make it stop!

okay, there are other omens running around. . .

[Earthcup]

<scottish monty python accent>

Bunnies are evil ferocious creatures......

</scottish monty python accent>

I happen to like crows and therefore think of them as good omens in general. Laurie Cabot I don't care for in the least. If sh said it was a sunny day I'd grab my umbrella....:2G:

Snakes on the other hand I don't like so when I see one I tend to pay attention to what it means. At one point I was a little frightened of things magical. I ran outside in sandals to get a package that had just been left and walked over a huge snake! It never moved and I didn't realize it was there til my brother stopped me from going back that way. It was very still and then suddenly darted under the house, under my room. I did a ritual to make peace with snakes that night and realised that danger is everywhere but you can't sit inside and hide because of it.

It does feel as though things are shifting in weird ways. It's like the Gods have decided to take matters into their own hands. It's like missing puzzle pieces are falling into place all over....

[Azure]

Yeah, to me it sort of feels like there's a whole new puzzle being layered over the old one. . . I think a lot of things that are status quo are going to start going by the wayside.

Meanwhile, back to the first lesson I learned about omens - you can't will them, they just appear when they need to (which is probably why sometimes a crow is just a crow).

[Earthcup]

Sometimes a gigar is just a cigar....

*thinks of Groucho Marx, decides it's innappropriate and starts giggling*

[Mithrea]

Wow! Tons of discussion since I asked heehee. Okay, the fertility thing hit a cord because I heard a little voice in my ear Saturday (which hasn't happened in years). It said, "This time next year, you will be pregnant."

I've also been seeing a new guy I really like. So I'm especially glad those bunnies keep running out in front of my car! :D

[Azure]

*Looks about, dubious*
I'm not sure running them down will save you from the Gods. Perhaps being extra vigilant about those BCPs?

[Mithrea]

ROFL I'm not hitting them!

[Flar's Freyja]

This is gettin' Silly ;)

[Earthcup]

Nah, we're just goofing while we let the serious stuff simmer a bit....

I'm just not dealing well with this "happy omen" phenomenon. I've gotten my hopes up so many times before just to crash back down to reality that I've just run out of hope. I get excited about new possibilities but it usually doesn't last more than a few minutes. I just need faith I guess....:(

[Flar's Freyja]

You're right, faith is at the core of everything. While I don't place my faith in omens and signs, I have had some serious and powerful signs occur, like the crows and my job that I mentioned earlier. Another time, I was very concerned about a situation my brother was going through in Tulsa. I was driving back home about 30 minutes before it was to occur, and a hawk flew by, low, right next to my car - toward Tulsa. How often does that happen? The message I got was that She was taking care of it and I didn't have to worry about it. I felt completely at peace.

My religion is nature based, and I am open to communication from the earth and its creatures. I certainly don't believe we should run around planning our lives by them, but these messages can be very comforting.

I've been at that place of lack of motivation many times and most of it results from depression. Sometimes the only answer is to get through the cycle by using whatever tools are available to you. And have faith that the cycle will come to an end at some point.

[Azure]

That's the great thing about things being cyclical - nothing is permenant.

Oddly enough, I did pull out my tarot cards last night and for the first time in a long time I trusted the reading, because once again all the stuff flying into my head related to the images seemed, as with the storm the other day, to be coming from outside myself and to make a lot of sense.

I think omens should be taken seriously, that they are sent for a reason, and the Gods pick very simple ways of sending big messages. Traditionally, religious leaders have spoken through parables - and I think omens are a similar thing - a small occurence that may have large repercussions. Throwing a rock in a pool, if you will.

Well, folks, just remember tonight is May Eve, and there's a lot of energy of all kinds running around out there. Don't look for things to happen, but then again, don't be surprised if they do!

[Flar's Freyja]

:eek: Thanks for remindin' me! Gotta wash my ritual dress!
:boing: Had so much fun last year, danced the Maypole for the first time in my life......

[Silver Venus]

I so want to dance round the may pole! :boing: Its such a great fertility rite!
Next year we are planning to get wed around Beltane either on the friday or saturday and I deffinatley want to have one it will be so much fun for everyone!

About energy running high and omens! Ive had so many recently where to begin..
Its so amazing how everything seems to fit together so well at major sabbats like this!

Im all bouncy bunny now! Think Ill go out and dance in the rain tonight if it carries on when the moon is out :)

[Melysande]

Happy Walpurgisnacht, everyone. **smiles**

I pulled out my tarot cards for a reading last night, too. I wanted some conversational face-time with the Gods. Some people actually talk to their gods and have them talk back in dreams or meditation. I talk to the gods all the time, but I have to listen and keep my eyes open to see how they respond. It's more like leaving in-depth emails or voice mail messages to them than actually chatting with them. The closest I come to a real-time conversation is listening to them speak through my cards and responding with thoughts, feelings and questions before picking up the next card. (I don't generally do spreads. Pick-a-card-any-card is what I use.)

The cards were being far less forthcoming than they usually are, and I got the distinct impression that I was a little girl being told that I should run off with the other kiddies and play and let the Grown-Ups talk for awhile amongst themselves. They did give me a cookie, though, about tika, so that was about the only pleasant thing.

In a nutshell, the cards just didn't tell me much of anything that I didn't already know, other than confirming the suspicion that the Grown-Ups really are making plans.

**sighs** I just wish I didn't also get the feeling that I'm only going to like HALF of those plans.

[Earthcup]

:lol: I pulled out my cards last night too! I got the same thing as Mely. I just need to sit back and enjoy myself and trust in the Gods to handle things. This too shall pass and it's gonna be :sunny: on the other side....

I like to do the "pick a card" thing to talk to them too. It just seems to be a more direct way to talk to them as long as I don't overuse it. Mostly I just talk to them and pray and hope they get my messages :D

I usually only attention to omens if they jump out at me, otherwise I just smile and go on. Lately they've been jumping out of closets and yelling BOO! though... :T

I can feel Mayday in the air and I'm slightly hyper and a little nervous with all these fertility vibes running around....:2G:

One big omen that popped up has me both grinning and feeling a little sad. I was looking at something my B/F had written a few years ago and I noticed in the little picture he was wearing his wedding ring(he's divorced now) but when I looked at the Acknowledgements he thanked every friend and family member and never mentioned his wife.

It's very sad, their marriage wasn't a very good one, but I don't feel I need to worry that he's still in love with his ex... He did thank me in his recent stuff which was very sweet...:loveduv:

[Azure]

Yeah, it's the jumping up and yelling boo! bit that's so surprising. . .

My reading was very scary, but all as I knew it should be - like yours and Melysande, a reminder that I'm a pawn in a Greater Game, and that things are seiously happening, but the end result might just be okay.

Nothing momentous at all has happened today, but i'm about to run off and leave a little gift of wine and honey for the powers that be. . .

[Earthcup]

A birdless day except for another trio of crows. Otherwise pretty normal.... and the spring colors are so lovely and all I have is B&W film...:(

[Azure]

Nice ritual, but everything has remained calm. Perhaps that's as it should be.

[Silver Venus]

I had the best night's sleep Ive had in ages last night and Im sure its because I have been taking note of all the signs that have been coming my way and have sorted them all out :) Well hopefully!

[Azure]

Well, last night being May Day, I had the traditional May dream of getting married. In this case, to a guy I didn't know at all, and quite frankly found cute but boring (his name was Michael, and in the dream, I'd known him in high school - but he was a construct). But the whole dream was about how excited my family and friends were about me getting married, and this ridiculous and bizarre dress that my fashion icon self would never wear, and the fact that I had a friend getting married the day before and the day after. It was all about big, fake, family ceremony too.

In the dream I was having fun with the planning and all, but knew it was all wrong. There were some godawful details, like a rehearsal dinner stew that was full of plastic litter - like those soda can holders and stuff. And a 'fundie' friend of mine in a calico Little House on the Prarie bridesmaid's dress urging me to go through with the wedding, just so I could have sex. . .

When I finally got to the end of the dream, one of my good friends, who's also a friend of my current interest, turned up as a grooms man and just said "No, this is wrong" and tried to drag me off. I resisted and went along with the wedding game, even though my concious mind was saying enough! at that point. Just as the ceremony was beginning - in a church, no less!!! - said groomsman shows up again with my current interest at the altar, and they carry off me - and my cat, Wyckett - in the proverbial poof of smoke. Groomsman friend saying that he HAD to get the two of us together.

Said groomsman is a close friend of both of us in real life and has absolutely no clue, to my knowledge, that there is anything between us. . . But would probably be that seriously happy if he did.

So I'm wondering what kind of message this is.

[Flar's Freyja]

I've read this a few times today, and I'm unclear about the relationship between you, the groomsman and your current interest. Could you clarify a bit more?

Sounds like a very bizarre dream and there's definitely a message there. If you'll clear me up, I'll see what I can pick up and get back to you.

[Melysande]

**grins** Sounds to me like you've finished that fairytale I was telling you the other day after all.

But you forgot one thing....



"And they lived happily ever after."

[Azure]

Mmmm. Might want to check your email. I'm not sure they did.

The groomsman is a mutual close friend of both of us - between us, we're the people he idolizes most - he has absolutely no idea that we are anything beyond acquaintances at most.

[Earthcup]

The dream is a bit confusing... sounds like one of mine...:lol:

Ok, around here I'm quite used to seeing bluejays, cardinals, robins and starlings:D galore but crows I usually only see hanging around roadkill every now and then.

Now not only am I looking up to see crows in odd places, they're looking back. Had two separate incidents with crows stopping what they were doing to look right at me today. Not at my car or in my general direction but at me.:eyebrow:

Have no idea what it means....

[Azure]

Perhaps they are watching out for you?

[Earthcup]

A raven, the bird that helpeth the gods,
In my right hand I hold:
A hawk, to flutter in thine evil face
In my left hand I thrust forward.

I think so! ;)

[Azure]

Frankly, I think having a couple of ravens to watch your back is probably a good thing. . .

[Earthcup]

Yeah... still depressed though... can't shake the lack of faith and pessimism... I did get new incense that makes my room smell holy though...

[Azure]

I'm afraid to do much incense burning right now, because the cats have spring fever, and I expect it to go flying and present me with scorch marks on the carpets. . .

I have that same pessimism - as you can tell from my posts. I really don't know what to do. I just don't things can get more wrong, but every time I think that something else happens.

If anyone is listening, I could use some good omens at the moment.

[Flar's Freyja]

:( Can't offer much except I'm listening, in a similar place myself.

[Azure]

Thanks, Freyja - that was actually a sort of jab at the Powers That Be.

I've been so busy since I got up this morning that even if anyone tried, I wouldn't have noticed!

There's so much of a sense that things are out of our hands right now, that the PTB have taken such an active part in many lives, my own included, that it can get frustrating. Melysande pointed this out earlier. Omens are the only thing making any sense to me right now. . .

[Earthcup]

I just got a reading that said to be patient and sit tight. I'd feel better if I could do something though... I'm usually good at being patient but I feel like I've been waiting for years and years...

Maybe this is the lesson I'm learning... Sometimes when things seem stuck and bleak you just need to sit quietly and wait. Anything worth having is worth waiting for right?

I'm just so restless! I can't write, I can't concentrate on reading and I can't even sit still through my favorite tv shows... I've been known to sit contentedly through three hour long doctor appointments but with all the good omens, vibes, energy and all that I see needing to be done it's driving me crazy...

[Azure]

Ha! That's EXACTLY what all my readings say - sit and wait, something big is coming. But I suck at patience, and right now I'm losing my mind.

I wonder how big something big is. and whether it plans on eating Cleveland or something when it gets here?

[Myst]

Ok I get that all the time too.

That and lately every reading has had the Hermit in it. Ok I'm so missing the hint apparently :)

[Earthcup]

Eating Cleveland? :rotfl:

I've been looking through some prophecies from different cultures and groups and I'm finding some similarities....

Do you think it's possible that the something big will affect human understanding? They say the poles are due for a flip, maybe that's a signal for a metaphysical change?

*ponders*

I've been getting the feeling I'm in for a major change on a personal level but it's nothing compared to what else is going on... maybe I just have an overactive imagination....

[Myst]

Well, not on a grand scale, but I find lately being Pagan or into New Age has become "cool" and that lately Pagans have been able to be more 'out there' without getting prejudiced against. This in the past couple years and into the future.

Age of aquarius and all that. :)