Shielding?

[one of mist]

Merry Meet all.

I was wondering how you as an Empath sheild or barrier yourself from all that others are feeling.?
Do you have to control how much you take in from those around you or you feel like you may drown?


The only place I have ever felt like I need to sheild myself is at funerals. I have only been to four and the last was not a person that I knew ( I was there for support to my Hubby who is freinds to the family) I though that because I did not know the person or her family I would have no problems. Unfortunatly I was wrong! I get this immense feeling of pain, sadness and emptyness. I get very warm, I can not stop the tears. I feel like I am drowning and can not breathe. I could not sit through this funeral (like the three before) I had to get up and leave.
Needless to say my sheilding does most definalty need practice. :hehehehe:
None of the funerals that I have been to have been for blood relations or close friend or family.

I have no problems in any other situations life throws at me, it is only at funerals that I seem to have a problem with.

[Xentor]

One of the easiest ways is to think of a radio volume knob. Make the noise go down by turning the knob to the left... and allow it to go up by turning it to the right.

I find it helpful to allow some to come through. Otherwise you'll wind up a sociopath.

[one of mist]

Hi there.
Thanks for that Xentor will try it.

[Drouach]

Hi,

I've tried the knob turning thing and it does have limited success.

The trouble I have is that being an empath i spart of my personality and intellect.

I've always been highly empathic, and this 'controlling' idea is new to me.

I still have my doubts.

Good luck, the knob turning meditation is good.

[Vigdisdotter]

Merry Meet all.

I was wondering how you as an Empath sheild or barrier yourself from all that others are feeling.?
Do you have to control how much you take in from those around you or you feel like you may drown?

Are you asking about a specific technique for shielding? I visualize mine as plasma (ala the Star Trek warp core) and I spin it clockwise to put i up and counter clock wise to take it down. As it spins I "shape" with my intention the way a potter shapes clay, and I form it into an egg shape that completely surrounds me so that every thing is sealed off including my feet.

And I haven't felt like I would drown for many many years. One thing I learned when it comes to shielding is that your shield is your psychic thermostat. Like a thermostat, you can move it up and down to meet the needs of the situation, allowing yourself to remain in your comfort zone.

[Lunacie]

Hello One of Mist, welcome to the Bunker. There have been dozens of posts here in the Bunker about funerals being very difficult for empaths to attend. But most of us also say that visiting hospitals is just as difficult. There is a different 'taste' or 'texture' to the energy in those situations.

Many of us also have trouble in any large group, simply because we never learned to have good boundaries in order to distinguish between our own emotions and those that wash over us from other people. One way to reinforce our boundaries is to look around and see something we like (a color, a shape, a sound, a scent) and focus on that for a minute to bring us back in touch with our own emotions. It would also work to look around for something that annoys or angers you, but I generally have enough of that energy without looking for more.

Another suggestion is to say to yourself mentally, "Whatever does not beong to me, leave me now."

Sometimes it's necessary to create a shield in order to give us the space in which to reestablish our own emotional boudaries. But like Xentor wrote, don't block everything. That's a very lonely place to be, especially when you've never learned to experience your own emotions. I was always made to feel bad or guilty because I was "too sensitive" or "over emotional" (well, duh) but that prevented me from being able to recognize and own, or take responsibility, for my own feelings. So when I created my first shield it blocked everything, angry and sad and happy and loving... everything. A very lonely place indeed.

[LadyCelt]

I do a sheild where it's more like mesh. I ground and center myself first. This way I'm more collected and with it. Then, I envision my shield as being like a big net used to catch fish. In a sense, even if I just think this way; I think it sort of helps to still let that person in but keeping the overwhlemingness of their energies and emotions out.

I have only used the mirror or reflective shield once. I find it kind of bad in a way to use that around most people. This was done against someone doing pyschic attacks against me.

[inkywitch]

I switched off. Now I find it hard to switch on. Randomly though, when it does 'turn on', I shield very much like Vigdisdotter posted. And it's effective (for me).

And in case anyone asks, I switched off unintentionally from many years of depression and isolation. More for survival. I don't recommend it :P

[LadyCelt]

^^^^^^ I wonder if the concept of a "quick word" by saying something like "off" or "enough" would work this way? maybe I'll try it, or try shielding and then doing that.

[inkywitch]

^^^^^^ I wonder if the concept of a "quick word" by saying something like "off" or "enough" would work this way? maybe I'll try it, or try shielding and then doing that.

I used to imagine a connection, like a piece of string between me and the person I was picking up on (if i knew who it was) and in my head say firmly, DISCONNECT, and visualize the cord breaking.

I find commands handy :)

[Lunacie]

I used to imagine a connection, like a piece of string between me and the person I was picking up on (if i knew who it was) and in my head say firmly, DISCONNECT, and visualize the cord breaking.

I find commands handy :)

I have a friend who visualizes the cord like the cord from a vacumn cleaner and she pictures it unplugging and zipping back into an automatic cord winder. ;)

[daphnerose]

I usually visualize myself in a siver reflective bubble before going anywhere with lots of people. Also a good grounding before helps.

[Lunacie]

Yes, gounding is a good thing to do before shielding, but grouding and then centering oneself is even better. It's a way to be comfortable with our own feelings and to stay centered in who we are and what we feel so we don't get as overwhelmed by the emotions and energies of other people.

Sounds so simple, but it's not so easy for some of us.

[daphnerose]

It took me alot of years. I started when I was about fifteen, surrounding myself in white light. It was out of neccesity so I could sleep at night. And you have to maintain. Meditation is hard. Even now if I don't keep up on it I have a hard time getting back to it. But for me, it helps keep me balanced.

[serenarian]

I must admit that I still find it very hard to shield, especially at funerals, so all the advice in this thread is proving helpful for me as well. The only successful shielding process that I use involves me imagining a circle of blue light around me, and firmly saying the word 'block' mentally.

[one of mist]

Merry meet.
Thanks to all who have shared their tips and experiances with sheilding.
I am having a lot of success with the plasma bubble but do try diffrent ways, :dancy:

[Son of Deborah]

I don't think I've ever "blocked" or "shielded" the emotions around me. I'm not even sure I could if I wanted. I've more learned to "let them pass through me", and to keep my own emotions clearly defined, so they do not get lost in the morass of the people around me.

It was very hard for me at first, because I suffered lots of tragedy as a child, and, as a teenager, actually lived vicariously through the emotions of others, because mine were too bleak to face up to. I would seek out places with happy people, or hang out with couples, and live in their emotion (it took a lot of work to end this lifestyle, as it's very alluring to a young person who doesn't understand their ability and knows only pain).

I was somewhat under control, but then I moved to Boston for college, and was basically thrown into the fire of empathic overload. It took about 6 months before I could really function, but I had to adjust or completely lose myself, and I developed my techniques in a trial by fire (in a similar fashion to the way a person might learn a language faster in total immersion training). Now I take the subway to work every day and am fine. I can even pick out individuals from the ambient emotional noise, and have said a kind work to a few people I knew were really hurting. (As a side note, subways are a unique environment, because, no matter how packed the subway is, almost everyone on it feels completely alone.)

So, my suggestion would be to see if you can work to let the emotions pass through you rather than fight against them. You might find it easier, although I am sure each person is different, and my method may fail utterly for you ;)

[Shaw]

Any public setting is tough for me. I find myself saying I know what you mean quite often. When I get around many people all going through something different it gets confusing. I just have to find a place out of the way and settle into my own mind.

Huge public events like concerts are such a drain trying to screen emotions that I feel depleted of all my physical energy and HAVE to leave. Because of that I have never been to a major event for more than about 20 minutes.

I have know about my gift for a long time, but two weeks ago my shrink said you must be an empath. A very nice affirmation to be noticed by a skeptic.

[Philosophia]

I do a sheild where it's more like mesh. I ground and center myself first. This way I'm more collected and with it. Then, I envision my shield as being like a big net used to catch fish. In a sense, even if I just think this way; I think it sort of helps to still let that person in but keeping the overwhlemingness of their energies and emotions out.

I also use a mesh shield. It doesn't completely block (I find that too difficult) but it does turn the volume down to a more "livable" level.

[Tanya]

I've never thought of sheilding myself...

Yeah, i know stuff all the time intuitively.. .. that Susie is 5 weeks pregnant, that Helen down the hall is a lesbian....that my boss has a new lover...

but then with my eyes I know stuff too... Tom's getting bald... Irfan broke three fingers ....

but i never consider wearing blinders either...

I guess like things I see, things I KNOW I just filter out into 2 boxes....

1. might be important to know

and

2. I don't care/NOB

[aluokaloo]

I have a shield that works wonders, I don't think I'm an empath, at least not on that degree, but I am both emotional and sensitive. I call it my Sphere of Peace, I visualize a sphere that looks like sunlight under water, (cause that is just so relaxing to me, use anything that relaxes you) and fill it with calm, peaceful energy. It works because during a stressful situation, I can stay calm and focused. Any nasty words thrown my way get dissolved and neuteralized.

[Lunacie]

I've never thought of sheilding myself...

Yeah, i know stuff all the time intuitively.. .. that Susie is 5 weeks pregnant, that Helen down the hall is a lesbian....that my boss has a new lover...

but then with my eyes I know stuff too... Tom's getting bald... Irfan broke three fingers ....

but i never consider wearing blinders either...

I guess like things I see, things I KNOW I just filter out into 2 boxes....

1. might be important to know

and

2. I don't care/NOB

I "know" things like that too sometimes, I call that being a psychic. Being an empath is different. It isn't "knowing" how someone else feels, it's actually "feeling" what they're feeling.

If you knew Susie was pregnant because you felt like your breasts were swollen and you thought you might have morning sickness and you knew if you sat down you'd fall asleep... that's empathy.

If you knew Helen was a lesbian because whenever you were around her you found yourself looking at other women and noticing how attractive or sexy they were, or felt worried and stressed about someone finding out that you were a lesbian... that's empathy.

[ShadowStalker]

I did.

I no longer do.

I've learned to cycle and filter energy to the point where I don't require the shields for protection against becoming overwhelmed.

For those who do need them, I can actually help with construction and development of shields... as I have had massive amounts of practice in both design and maintenance over the years. :lol:

[Diotima]

I am shielded at all times, and have many shield types and filters in my repertoire.

If I am not shielded, being around people is exhausting to the point where I am unable to function. I get overwhelmed extremely easily.

I'm not an Empath (still haven't quite figured out, what I am) but for me the problem hasn't ever been getting unwanted information into my head. It's more like energy drain. When I was unshielded/shielded with a poor automatic shield, I simply got exhausted around people. A little slower with some, a little more quickly with some, and crowds just made my head spin. I can't tell emotions or anything like that apart in a crowd- there is just the sense of getting drained and overwhelmed. It was hard for me to think (not good for an academic!) and often after being around people I had to take the next day "off" in order to get my head straight. It got worse year by year.

Once I learned to shield, that hasn't happened to me any more. I am still very introvert, but if I need to, I *can* be around people and interact with them. I'm pretty sure I still have some hidden blocks around, but the improvement has been huge neverthless.
At all times, I have my standard "sparklie" shield around me. It's a light, basic shield consisting of white sparklies, that is supposed to block negative energy while letting the positive energy in. I can add colored filters to it easily by visualizing- they have a specific purpose eg. against energy draining people etc.
I also have some other, stronger shields in storage just in case.

[greenmoon]

The volume knob method is a good one. I find that I need to stay conscious when out and about. The supermarket especially. As long as I'm conscious I manage to keep my energy adaptive enough to protect myself. I haven't managed to create a truly automatic shield yet.

[odd_duck71]

I am shielded at all times, and have many shield types and filters in my repertoire.

If I am not shielded, being around people is exhausting to the point where I am unable to function. I get overwhelmed extremely easily.

I'm not an Empath (still haven't quite figured out, what I am) but for me the problem hasn't ever been getting unwanted information into my head. It's more like energy drain. When I was unshielded/shielded with a poor automatic shield, I simply got exhausted around people. A little slower with some, a little more quickly with some, and crowds just made my head spin. I can't tell emotions or anything like that apart in a crowd- there is just the sense of getting drained and overwhelmed. It was hard for me to think (not good for an academic!) and often after being around people I had to take the next day "off" in order to get my head straight. It got worse year by year.

Once I learned to shield, that hasn't happened to me any more. I am still very introvert, but if I need to, I *can* be around people and interact with them. I'm pretty sure I still have some hidden blocks around, but the improvement has been huge neverthless.
At all times, I have my standard "sparklie" shield around me. It's a light, basic shield consisting of white sparklies, that is supposed to block negative energy while letting the positive energy in. I can add colored filters to it easily by visualizing- they have a specific purpose eg. against energy draining people etc.
I also have some other, stronger shields in storage just in case.

If you ever figure out what you are, could you let me know? I have the same thing -- rarely specific information, just overwhelmed and drained. I'm an instructor, and most days I go home and collapse. It feels like my classes just suck the life right out of me. Family gatherings are the absolute worst._inabox_

The interesting exception is rock concerts. Those leave me buzzed for a couple of days.:boing:

I'm pretty new to the idea that there might be a solution to this problem. I'm in the magical self-defense class right now, and we're learning grounding first. I think we get to shielding pretty soon.

Question for anyone/everyone -- Do shields "seal in" your own energy or just keep everyone else's out?

[Lunacie]

If you ever figure out what you are, could you let me know? I have the same thing -- rarely specific information, just overwhelmed and drained. I'm an instructor, and most days I go home and collapse. It feels like my classes just suck the life right out of me. Family gatherings are the absolute worst._inabox_

The interesting exception is rock concerts. Those leave me buzzed for a couple of days.:boing:

I'm pretty new to the idea that there might be a solution to this problem. I'm in the magical self-defense class right now, and we're learning grounding first. I think we get to shielding pretty soon.

Question for anyone/everyone -- Do shields "seal in" your own energy or just keep everyone else's out?

Hello Odd Duck :wave:, welcome to the Bunker.

For me, Renaissance Fests are the exception. I may be tired physically, but emotionally I'm ... well, buzzed is as good a word as any.

Shields generally only keep others energies away from us, but they can be tweaked to keep our energy from "bothering" others.

[odd_duck71]

:wave: Hi Lunacie, thanks for the welcome. If shields aren't really meant to keep our energy from draining away, is there some other technique that is meant to do that? "Fix-a-Flat" for a duck's energy field, so to speak?

[Lunacie]

Right off the top of my head, what I'm thinking is the reverse of what I learned to do when I'm picking up "icky" energy from someone else. What I do then is to make a small motion like shoooing the bad energy away and then turn my hand in to cup my energetic center (just below my waist - the 3rd chakra) to remind me that what I feel from them belongs to them and what I feel from me belongs to me. So if you feel like you're "leaking energy" you could cup your hand towards your energetic center to remind yourself to keep your energy from spilling out onto everyone else.

But if you're not feeling drained or spreading negative, unhappy energy then it's really just part of the normal give-and-take of being part of a world full of people.

[Diotima]

Welcome, odd_duck!

Frankly, I don't know which way it is for me- because I used to feel exhausted and drained, I assumed that other people somehow drained my energy from me. However, now that I think of it, it might be the other way around, because the word "overwhelmed" describes perfectly my exhaustion.
Part of my exhaustion was caused by my Stone-Age style automatic shield I had subconsciously constructed. It was very effective, in a way, but it consumed huge amounts of energy. Replacing it with a better shield helped me enormously.
In any case, for me, the simple shield I described in my previous post, works for most of the time. It can be easily adjusted (which, IMO, is good for a "default shield").In order to make a lasting shield, it is important to check it daily for the first few months.

If you want to learn more about me and my adventures, feel free to check my Metaphysical Experiments thread.

[odd_duck71]

Right off the top of my head, what I'm thinking is the reverse of what I learned to do when I'm picking up "icky" energy from someone else. What I do then is to make a small motion like shoooing the bad energy away and then turn my hand in to cup my energetic center (just below my waist - the 3rd chakra) to remind me that what I feel from them belongs to them and what I feel from me belongs to me. So if you feel like you're "leaking energy" you could cup your hand towards your energetic center to remind yourself to keep your energy from spilling out onto everyone else.

But if you're not feeling drained or spreading negative, unhappy energy then it's really just part of the normal give-and-take of being part of a world full of people.

Thanks for the hint. It helped me survive a weekend with way too much family contact. In the past, a trip home (especially one including a visit with my father-in-law who has Alzheimers and no longer recognizes us) left me out of sorts for the next several days. I did start feeling a bit shaky on the way home, but a salt bath took care of it.


Welcome, odd_duck!

Frankly, I don't know which way it is for me- because I used to feel exhausted and drained, I assumed that other people somehow drained my energy from me. However, now that I think of it, it might be the other way around, because the word "overwhelmed" describes perfectly my exhaustion.
Part of my exhaustion was caused by my Stone-Age style automatic shield I had subconsciously constructed. It was very effective, in a way, but it consumed huge amounts of energy. Replacing it with a better shield helped me enormously.
In any case, for me, the simple shield I described in my previous post, works for most of the time. It can be easily adjusted (which, IMO, is good for a "default shield").In order to make a lasting shield, it is important to check it daily for the first few months.

If you want to learn more about me and my adventures, feel free to check my Metaphysical Experiments thread.
:wave: Sounds interesting. I'll take a look at it soon.

[Lunacie]

Family gatherings used to leave me feeling out of sorts, or drained, or "not quite myself". I wish I'd known how to do some simple shielding or centering exercises long before I finally learned to do them.

[BlackLili]

One of my teachers my first year at University was the head Chef of the school. He taught me about why Pine trees are good for meditating under, and he described his own personal shield as his "armor." He would "suit up" everyday on his way in to work, putting on multiple layers of Arthurian-inspired gold and silver armor to help block out the energy of 1,000 hormonal first-year girls tromping through his kitchens everyday.

While I studied Arthurian legends extensively and got my BA in Medieval/Renaissance Studies, my personal armor happens to look more like the Samurai armor of Medieval Kyoto (Japan). More layers and a little more durable, but with more movement and room to breathe, so to speak. Also, bearing in mind the ceremonial layers that would go on under that type of armor, I can remove pieces at will to vary the extent of my shield.

I've also noticed that since leaving school and maturing a bit, I don't feel the need to shield nearly so often anymore. As some of you described, I now find it easier to let others' energies flow through me, so I can just differentiate between strands or threads coming from individuals.

[camreondarkheart]

This helps a lot.. i have a really hard time differentiating between different energies.. walking down the hallway drives me mad unless i just.. shut down. i'll definitely look into the armor thing and work on that until i can get control of seperating strands.

thank you

[Aveline]

The only place I have ever felt like I need to sheild myself is at funerals. <snip> I get very warm, I can not stop the tears. I feel like I am drowning and can not breathe.

I didnt' realize it then, but my first *overwhelming* empathic experience was at my uncle's funeral. I did not know him well. Mostly, I felt bad for the rest of his family that *was* close to him and my grandmother in particular. I sat behind my grandmother during the funeral, just in case she needed somebody. Half-way through the service I just *knew* that Grandma was having a really hard time... that she needed help. I reached out and put my hand on her shoulder and suddenly I was so overwhelmed with grief that I starting sobbing right then. I've always thought that it's because grief is such a RAW emotion and so unlike so many other situations in society it's "permitted" at funerals that it came through so clearly.

[camreondarkheart]

did 9/11 suck for anyone else when all those people died??

[Lunacie]

did 9/11 suck for anyone else when all those people died??

I could not watch tv for at least 2 weeks. We played a lot of videos for my granddaughter, or got out and went to the park or playland or stuff like that. Even the internet was difficult for me.

However, it wasn't as hard for me as the Branch Dividian business or the bombing in Oklahoma City - maybe because in September 2001 I was focused on my family. I was living with my daughter and her hubby and my four year old granddaughter and expecting my second grandbaby in about a month. When the other two happened, I was at home alone, they were closer to where I lived, and I woke up in the middle of the night feeling very restless and knew something was going to happen. I sat up the rest of the night with the tv on waiting to hear what was going wrong.

[camreondarkheart]

I was in 6th grade when 9/11 happened. I knew something was wrong.. I was taking ISTEP and i kept feeling like people were screaming in my head.. wordless meaningless screams that kept on and on until i thought my head was going to explode or i was going to cry... then the teacher got a call and turned on the TV and I just KNEW that the people screaming in my head were the people in those buildings... That was my first empathic/telepathic experience.... it's no wonder i shut down behind steel...

[Lunacie]

Yeah, to have that happen when you were young and had no one to talk to about it, I can see how that would put a real crimp in the way you experience Empathy.

But just so you know, Empathy can also be beautiful when making love with someone who really loves you back, when watching your children or grandchildren open gifts or when you fix them their favorite meal and they just overflow with love for you. It can make that connection between you and your pets really special.

But it was definately a two-edged sword when I was with my daughter as she was giving birth to my grandchildren. Wow, that was intense, I'm just grateful neither one took longer than 13 hours. ;)

[camreondarkheart]

I know about the making love... I swear sometimes we were both glowing more than the "after sex glow"...

one of these days i hope to experience the simple things to their fullest... not just seeing.. but feeling as well... I think the benefits outweigh the "it's a curse" feeling. Of course, i'm also a hopeless romantic sooo.. yeah lol.

[Solya]

Shielding is something I have had a lot of trouble with in the past few years. I cannot always ground my energy well... it always feels like I'm floating a few inches above the floor... and I often feel sick or dizzy when I do the grounding. I haven't really figured out a proper way of grounding other than the quick solution of somebody else having to hold onto my ankles. I swear there's nothing that gets me back down to Earth faster than that!

Basically, I only have a problem with my empathy in large groups of people. I often can't differentiate between my own emotions and those of others, which leads to me feeling quite overwhelmed and sick once I'm somewhere quiet again. I also make a point out of avoiding funerals, newspapers and television shows which show abused/neglected animals or children.

9/11 was pure shock for me. I felt this massive motion of energy weave its way through our daily lives... felt the energies of all the souls forced to leave this earthly plane because of the disaster... and I didn't know what to do with myself because the other cases of empathy had always been pretty mild in nature for me and this was just so huge. I read everything I could get my hands on as if I dared myself to be confronted with the reality of it over and over again, simply because I felt I had to experience exactly what this thing felt like so I would recognise the feeling again if something similar happened. I got even more traumatised by the time of the tsunami and the bombings of Iraq and Afghanistan and have now decided I'm going to avoid getting in touch with the media to see if it helps me get rid of some bad feelings.

[Lunacie]

Ya know, I think what I feel following something like 9-11 is what the survivors and the family who are worried are feeling. What I felt from the actual event itself was brief but intense. What I felt from seeing it over and over on television was the millions of people who were watching it and feeling shock and anger and overwhelming sadness.

I know when they finally arrested the serial killer who had been at large for over 30 years here in the Wichita area, what I felt was the concentrated mass feelings of everyone in the community.

[braska_mmc]

empathic shealding takes a lot of hard work to successfully work, it takes layer apon layer, year after year of shealding to have any real affect,
theres a sheald called the green egg medetation, if used in conjunction with the knob and the sheald as well as a steel personal sheald should at least slow it down anough to make it tollarable and also help to give you time to shut down to the un wonted emotions, when they run slowanough you can simpally brush themn away like swatting a fly.

*GREEN EGG*

Light a green candle
Visulise white enargy surrounding you, make it form an egg shape,
watch it hardern into a shell,
concentrate on it shealding you from unwonted emoptions, then chant
E too ram ne car day mo (phenedic spelling) for 10 mins *NOTE do not exead 10 mins can be very bad*
do that every night just befor going to bead and when ever you feel overcome, it should help.

let me knoe if it works for you please

[Lunacie]

empathic shealding takes a lot of hard work to successfully work, it takes layer apon layer, year after year of shealding to have any real affect,
theres a sheald called the green egg medetation, if used in conjunction with the knob and the sheald as well as a steel personal sheald should at least slow it down anough to make it tollarable and also help to give you time to shut down to the un wonted emotions, when they run slowanough you can simpally brush themn away like swatting a fly.



Hello Braska, welcome to the Bunker. :wave:

Oddly enough, the first shield I ever created was to shield myself because of overload from empathy, and it came out looking like a green egg. A lovely clear green like colored glass. It worked very well - too well in fact. Not much came in at all, neither good or bad, and not much was going out either. So there I was, stuck inside my green egg, all by myself, with only my own feelings for company. Eventually it got pretty lonely.

But it did give me the space to learn to recognize my own feelings and differentiate them from the feelings I pick up from other people. Learning to do that is waaaay better than any shield.

I think a layered shield can work pretty well, either lots of layers or several different filters. But it doesn't have to take a long time to build up a shield like that, especially if you use Divine or Universal energy instead of personal energy.

[braska_mmc]

yeah thats sound like the 2nd part of the protection after the white egg lol, i do them both everynight,

btw glad to be hear :D

[Aveline]

*GREEN EGG*

Light a green candle
Visulise white enargy surrounding you, make it form an egg shape,
watch it hardern into a shell,
concentrate on it shealding you from unwonted emoptions, then chant
E too ram ne car day mo (phenedic spelling) for 10 mins *NOTE do not exead 10 mins can be very bad*
do that every night just befor going to bead and when ever you feel overcome, it should help.

let me knoe if it works for you please


I want to try this meditation, but I hesitate because of "e too ram ne car day mo" especially with the warning to add to it. What is this? What does it mean? What's the actual word(s) (since you said this was the phonetic spelling)? Why is it bad to exceed ten minutes? What could happen?

Sorry to ask so many questions but I don't just "play around with this stuff" and I refuse to use anything that I don't have at least a basic understanding of the risks and benefits. Thanks for positing the meditation. I'm looking forward to trying it.

[Lunacie]

I didn't chant anything when I created my first shield. Unfortunately, I made it out of my own energy, so it was stronger when I felt strong and good, and it was kinda wimpy when I most needed it when I was feeling kinda punk. Now I know that I can draw on energy from Mother Earth or Father Sky or the Universe or the Cosmos (but not on other people) and I will have an unlimited supply of energy to power my shield, and it will remain pretty much constant and steady.

All you have to do is open yourself to feel the energy of the earth or the universe, and let it pour into you, through you, and over you, forming a fountain that can expand outwards into a bubble or a sphere that can be "programmed" to keep out certain energies.

It can be really good practice to visualize your shield being like various things, such as: soap bubbles, tire rubber, brick wall, metal armor, fuzzy blankets, feather pillows, spider webs, etc. This is what we're going to practice doing after our Imbolc ritual February 2nd. :)

[braska_mmc]

ok basicaly the words mean i am in controle, this is my wont that sort of thing. it help to controle the speed that the emotions hit you, giving you time to say yes i wont it or no i dont.

i put the warning up because if you exead 10 mins you can creat the egg so strongly that it does not let anything through and nothing will get out ether.

e too ram ne car day mo is the actual words, i cant remember how it was spelt when given to me but i know the phenedic of it sorry.

its great to sak so many questions, i think i covered them all lol

[Lunacie]

ok basicaly the words mean i am in controle, this is mywont that sort of thing. it help to controle the speed that the emotions hit you, giving you time to say yes i wont it or no i dont.

i put the warning up because if you exead 10 mins you can creat the egg so strongly that it does not let anything through and nothing will get out ether.

e too ram ne car day mo is the actual words, i cant remember how it was spelt when given to me but i know the phenedic of it sorry.

its great to sak so many questions, i think i covered them all lol

I was rather confused by the word "wont" - but it looks like you actually mean "want" (like I want the red one). You apparently speak and write a different language than most of us here at MW, and reading your posts leaves me scratching my head in puzzlement at times.

Who taught you these words to create a shield? What language are they?

I really think it's best when doing magic to stick to language we understand - just my own opinion. I'm not a ceremonial magician who reads a spell from a book and does it exactly as written, I prefer to make my own spells using my own words.

[patch]

I adore shielding.
That sounds stupid, but making shields in something I can really have alot of fun with.

At the momet, I'm working on a prism system to do with reflection and refraction. Should be interesting, and really effective too.

[Aveline]

its great to sak so many questions, i think i covered them all lol


yes! thank you braska!

[braska_mmc]

sorry about my spelling lol, Im an Australian, but i cant spell very well and quite often miss type things,

to clarify, the wording in english is "I am the master/owner of my emotions, and as an empath it is my right to say no to the emotions of others"

the language is Ainchant Rromani i think allthough it was my ex teacher who origianaly showed me the meditation, it should work just as well in english.

im not a ceramonial witch, however i do speak fluent Galic (sorry cant spell it but its the veary old dead celtic language) so many of my spells and what knot are in that because i find it stronger than english but ill try to remember to put everything in english so that everyone can make there own dessisions about things, again sorry.

[Lunacie]

sorry about my spelling lol, Im an Australian, but i cant spell very well and quite often miss type things,

to clarify, the wording in english is "I am the master/owner of my emotions, and as an empath it is my right to say no to the emotions of others"

the language is Ainchant Rromani i think allthough it was my ex teacher who origianaly showed me the meditation, it should work just as well in english.

im not a ceramonial witch, however i do speak fluent Galic (sorry cant spell it but its the veary old dead celtic language) so many of my spells and what knot are in that because i find it stronger than english but ill try to remember to put everything in english so that everyone can make there own dessisions about things, again sorry.


Oh I like that in plain old English. . . "I am the master/owner of my emotions, and as an empath it is my right to say no to the emotions of others."

I may use that in a class (if you don't mind) as at least half of my fellow Grove members are Empaths.

[skilly-nilly]

I wrote a charm for shielding:


Unwanted Empathy


This is not mine.
Let it stay yours.
I am not anodyne,
I shut my doors!




ps it's an archaic word:
A source of relaxation or comfort.
http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/anodyne

[Lunacie]

Ah, sounds very empowering. I do think the people who have the most trouble with being an Empath are those who weren't taught as children that self-empowerment is a good thing, who weren't taught to make their own choices and live with the results, who are so used to someone else making all the decisions that they are defensive about strangers dumping all those emotions on them because they aren't comfortable saying "no".

[Solya]

My Mum is still not comfortable with saying "no" to people, so that does impact me more than I will ever admit to her. She's always really concerned with what people may think... and I have been taught by life to not care about what they think, so Mum and I often argue about things like this. She runs away from her own power, while I have embraced mine. It is harder for me to empower myself when the one person I felt safe around while growing up does little to nothing to empower herself. She's not a weak person by any means, but I just feel very... different from her.

[Aveline]

Ah, sounds very empowering. I do think the people who have the most trouble with being an Empath are those who weren't taught as children that self-empowerment is a good thing.

Though I have no trouble with self-empowerment, I do have difficulty with being an empath at times. My difficulty stems from two primary sources.

1) I never knew, until reading this forum, that it could be controlled/shielded. Though there are others around me who I'm sure have the same talent of empathy, nobody in my life has ever acknowledged it as more than "being sensitive". Now that I know I can shield off the negative emotions of others, I have been practicing this and have been VERY grateful.

2) I have clinical depression. *stepping up on the soap box* (I don't meant offend or anything, just being clear about what I'm trying to say.) Depression is a medical condition where the neurotransmitters (chemicals in the brain that carry signals from one neuron to another) are out of balance. Having too much or too little of the various neurotransmitters is manifested as an emotion (thus a "mood disorder"). Half the time, when I'm depressed, I don't know if *I* am depressed or if the chemicals in my brain are out of whack. Now, through into this mix that it could be that 1) I am depressed, or 2) the chemicals are unbalanced, or 3) somebody ELSE is depressed. It gets confusing to say the least.

[Lunacie]

:lol: You're preachin' to the choir. I've been clinically depressed and also have ADD, both are neurotransmitter issues / mood disorders, not to mention the PMS which is NOT all in one's head. I didn't know anything about any of these (just a little bit about depression) until the last 5 years or less. What a world of difference it has made - after years of being told I was "being too sensitive" it was such a relief to know that there is a physical reason for that. My oldest granddaughter also has ADD and is an Empath, and she's "coming of age" so her hormones are all wacky too. And we're currently working to make her feel comfortable in her own skin, less prickly, and more positive about herself.

[braska_mmc]

yeah iv never been very good at empowering my self, im the first empath in my known family, and unfortunetly the cristion chirch got hold of me when i was about 2 yrs old and used me as a vessle for themselfs, so i had no choice but to embrasce that i was diffrent, and accept that I was helping someone.

I love beeing an empath, and even when desaster strikes, i thank the gods that they have given me a gift, im able to help...
allthough i do gots ocd (obbsessive compolcive dissorder, i think just about everyone knows what that is, but im compeled to do things a serton way and a serton numnber of times, like i cant take the first bottle of milk in the line, i have to pick it up twice and then get the second one.. its crazy) lol and am nearing the last few years that i can use my legs, but its a small price to pay for the gift of feeling, and thay have weelchair access now :P

[braska_mmc]

btw yeah its fine to use it in teaching Lunacie glad it can help.