There are no gods

[Baba Yaga]

My husband has recently gone to prison on a statutory rape charge. My dog of eleven years died today. I have tried to paly by the rules and do the right thing my whole life. I am exhausted. My heart is arythmic and the clinic I went to was worried about me havinga heart attack. I'm only 30. If the gods are there, they stopped hearing me a while ago. I'm ready to pack it in. I've got nothing left in me to share with the world. I'm dry.

[Arion]

Sorry things are really rough for ya :hugz:

Still, the gods aren't about making life good. Struggle and pain are just as necessary for our existence than happiness. When I'm going through hard times, I try to take it as a compliment in that the gods think so highly of me that they think I can handle all this pain in order to evolve into a better, more experienced person with a deeper understanding of life. Those who have easy lives aren't as special, or as strong as you are. Don't worry, even bad times end :)

[Baba Yaga]

Sorry things are really rough for ya :hugz:

Still, the gods aren't about making life good. Struggle and pain are just as necessary for our existence than happiness. When I'm going through hard times, I try to take it as a compliment in that the gods think so highly of me that they think I can handle all this pain in order to evolve into a better, more experienced person with a deeper understanding of life. Those who have easy lives aren't as special, or as strong as you are. Don't worry, even bad times end :)

Thank you for the kind thoughts. I work at a county animal shelter. how can I take care of those animals after I have failed my own? How can I look at police officers that come in after my husbad turned himself in and is now a convicted felon, and the police still went out of thier way to screw him over on sentencing?

[Baba Yaga]

I don't expect the gods to make my life easy, but if i don't get some kind of relief soon, I don't how I'll be any good to them. I feel worn thinner than smoke.

[Merrilyn]

:hugz:
What you've got to realize is that none of these things have much to do with gods, or with your own doing, for that matter. You have the choice to sink in the mires of despair that have somewhat been created for you, or rise above, recognize yourself, and move onto brighter things.
Sounds like it's definitely time for you, now.

[Baba Yaga]

:hugz:
What you've got to realize is that none of these things have much to do with gods, or with your own doing, for that matter. You have the choice to sink in the mires of despair that have somewhat been created for you, or rise above, recognize yourself, and move onto brighter things.
Sounds like it's definitely time for you, now.

I don't know. I haven't been able to empty my dog's bowls yet. He died this afternoon, and I'm still crying. How do I rise above? I feel strong need to let myself feel sorry for myself for at least a day or two. Since the day my husband was arested I have been staying strong, saying the comforting words, taking five buses to get to court, working extra to pay for a lawyer. I have been putting on the brave face, giving him absolution, since he had the courage to face up to his actions and turn himself in, dealing with his parents. Comforting his and my friends. But at least I had my dog. I took him for a walk and now he is dead. He had heartworms and I took him for a longer than he could handle. I couldn't save my dog and I couldn't bring my husband home. When do I get to stop being strong and brave and have someone take care of me for a day? Do I even deserve it? How could I not know that that path would be too long for my dog?

[Baba Yaga]

thank you all for the hugs

[Philosophia]

:hugz:

As hard as it is right now, you have the ability to rise above this and learn. You will become a stronger person because of this, but only if you allow yourself to do this. Give yourself time to grieve because that is what is occuring right now. Allow yourself to cry, fight, etc. but get all that emotion out and don't let it pent up.

You will be stronger at the end of this but don't give up. It may feel really bad right now but keep believing in yourself.

_pounce_

[Baba Yaga]

The point of all this is, I don't feel the presence of any deity. Everything just seems senseless and without reason. Just one bit of bad luck after another. Alos, in the middle of all of this the state tries to tell me that I owe back taxes that I don't owe. And I just feel alone.

[Baba Yaga]

:hugz:

As hard as it is right now, you have the ability to rise above this and learn. You will become a stronger person because of this, but only if you allow yourself to do this. Give yourself time to grieve because that is what is occuring right now. Allow yourself to cry, fight, etc. but get all that emotion out and don't let it pent up.

You will be stronger at the end of this but don't give up. It may feel really bad right now but keep believing in yourself.

_pounce_

thank you. I guess being down is okay, unless you stay down.

[sybba_leigh]

Sorry things are really rough for ya :hugz:

Still, the gods aren't about making life good. Struggle and pain are just as necessary for our existence than happiness. When I'm going through hard times, I try to take it as a compliment in that the gods think so highly of me that they think I can handle all this pain in order to evolve into a better, more experienced person with a deeper understanding of life. Those who have easy lives aren't as special, or as strong as you are. Don't worry, even bad times end :)

that was very well said

[sybba_leigh]

Thank you for the kind thoughts. I work at a county animal shelter. how can I take care of those animals after I have failed my own? How can I look at police officers that come in after my husbad turned himself in and is now a convicted felon, and the police still went out of thier way to screw him over on sentencing?

they went out of their way to screw him because he broke the law and he is a statuatory rapist and adulterer...

[sybba_leigh]

:hugz:
What you've got to realize is that none of these things have much to do with gods, or with your own doing, for that matter. You have the choice to sink in the mires of despair that have somewhat been created for you, or rise above, recognize yourself, and move onto brighter things.
Sounds like it's definitely time for you, now.


how does her problems (or anyone's problems for that matter) not have much to do with the gods? what DO the gods have to do with then?

[Baba Yaga]

they went out of their way to screw him because he broke the law and he is a statuatory rapist and adulterer...

by what logic do you think that this helpful to me?

[Phoenix Blue]

they went out of their way to screw him because he broke the law and he is a statuatory rapist and adulterer...
ADMIN MODE

You'll notice this is the Helping Hands and Hugs forum. If you don't have something supportive to say, don't say anything at all.

[Baba Yaga]

I have chosen to forgive my husband, whether strangers approve of that or not.

[Arion]

I don't expect the gods to make my life easy, but if i don't get some kind of relief soon, I don't how I'll be any good to them. I feel worn thinner than smoke.

I know what you mean, I've had times when I questioned the existence of the gods during hard times, and even times where I've been so angry with them for making things turn out the way they did. In a few months, you'll look back on what was going on now, and laugh. There's not much else you can do, really.

[Baba Yaga]

I know what you mean, I've had times when I questioned the existence of the gods during hard times, and even times where I've been so angry with them for making things turn out the way they did. In a few months, you'll look back on what was going on now, and laugh. There's not much else you can do, really.

I just hope that the laughter isn't hysterical while inside a mental health facility, you know?
I don't know. I've gotten through everything else. I guess I just want be petty and yell about it for once instead of always playing steadfast little soldier.

[Merrilyn]

Don't get me wrong, honey. You have every right to grieve and explore all aspects of your emotions regarding your recent losses. What I wanted to convey is that it seems like so much has happened on the account of others, and things you cannot quite control. I just wanted you to see that glimmer of hope, light, whatever you will, gods or no, and know that you can and will persevere.
Strength like yours has no end, and you will go on....even though you just may need a good old break right now.

Take this time for yourself. Reflect. Listen to your own heart for comfort, guidance and solace and nevermind the questioning of divinity. Most of it resides within.

Best Wishes.

[Baba Yaga]

Don't get me wrong, honey. You have every right to grieve and explore all aspects of your emotions regarding your recent losses. What I wanted to convey is that it seems like so much has happened on the account of others, and things you cannot quite control. I just wanted you to see that glimmer of hope, light, whatever you will, gods or no, and know that you can and will persevere.
Strength like yours has no end, and you will go on....even though you just may need a good old break right now.

Take this time for yourself. Reflect. Listen to your own heart for comfort, guidance and solace and nevermind the questioning of divinity. Most of it resides within.

Best Wishes.

Thank you so much. I've got a weekend off from work coming up. I think I'll turn off my phone and sleep, and go to the lake.

[Arion]

Thank you so much. I've got a weekend off from work coming up. I think I'll turn off my phone and sleep, and go to the lake.

Sounds like a good idea. You need some peace and quiet to sort everything out in your mind and just feel it all. Some relaxation couldn't hurt, either.

[Brightshores]

Peace and healing to you - I agree with those who said you need to take time to breathe, to learn, to assimilate, to heal, to mourn, and to grow.

What happened to you is not your fault, but it is your choice at this point how you are going to cope with it all. You can choose to persevere, or you can choose to give in. When this is over - you will be stronger. It may take a while, but you will be able to move on.

:hugz:

[Baba Yaga]

Thank you all. You have no idea how much expressing it here has helped.

[sybba_leigh]

ADMIN MODE

You'll notice this is the Helping Hands and Hugs forum. If you don't have something supportive to say, don't say anything at all.

o ok i was just answering her question honestly...

[KylalaKitty]

Thank you all. You have no idea how much expressing it here has helped.

Thats what Helping Hand and Hugs is for :). Everything seems to suck right now, but later on down the road you'll see that you have become a stronger person. and losing a pet is never easy I know.

[Baba Yaga]

Thats what Helping Hand and Hugs is for :). Everything seems to suck right now, but later on down the road you'll see that you have become a stronger person. and losing a pet is never easy I know.


Yeah, I was managing okay up until that. I'm calmer now, though.

[Baba Yaga]

Well, I gotta try to get some sleep. Got work tommorrow. Thank you all again.

[Phoenix Blue]

o ok i was just answering her question honestly...
Doesn't matter. And don't respond publicly to admin modes, either.

[Wolf O Volos]

I have chosen to forgive my husband, whether strangers approve of that or not.



You do know, that in and of itself shows that you have great character and strength. Most often, it is easy to judge, easy to point a finger and condemn someone, but to truley forgive, and understand someone, takes fortitude and strength, especially when you know not everyone, as is evidenced even in this thread, is going to understand or see the wisdom of your convictions... Stay strong, and have faith. The Gods have a plan, and while it is not always up to us to see the wisdom of their actions, I am a very strong believer in the ideal of "Everything happens for a reason"

[Tanya]

you know in this stupid happy dooo da society, we've gotten the idea grievong isn't right... it IS right to grieve over what is lost and taken from us. It IS the reality of life that sometimes it all seems too much....

and lastly, it IS true that despite greif we survive and go on and are surprizd again by joy.

many many hugs in your grieving.

[Baba Yaga]

You do know, that in and of itself shows that you have great character and strength. Most often, it is easy to judge, easy to point a finger and condemn someone, but to truley forgive, and understand someone, takes fortitude and strength, especially when you know not everyone, as is evidenced even in this thread, is going to understand or see the wisdom of your convictions... Stay strong, and have faith. The Gods have a plan, and while it is not always up to us to see the wisdom of their actions, I am a very strong believer in the ideal of "Everything happens for a reason"

Thank you, very much. Its nice to have people not telling me i'm weak or foolish for forgiving.

[Baba Yaga]

you know in this stupid happy dooo da society, we've gotten the idea grievong isn't right... it IS right to grieve over what is lost and taken from us. It IS the reality of life that sometimes it all seems too much....

and lastly, it IS true that despite greif we survive and go on and are surprizd again by joy.

many many hugs in your grieving.

Thank you for the hugs, and the support.

[BlueMoon13]

The point of all this is, I don't feel the presence of any deity.... And I just feel alone.

There are so many things that neither deity nor you have any control over-your husband's legal problems, your beloved dog's passing....when things like these happen, we can only react. Your husband is serving his punishment, but you have no reason to not hold your head up to police officers or anyone else. It was not your crime. You did not fail your dog, nature and his own body did, but only after eleven years of your love and companionship. Honour his memory by continuing to care for his kind. You will not fail them,either.

And you are not alone, as demonstrated by those posting here. Perhaps deity is speaking to you through us? Picture the deities associated with the different paths represented by us-Isis,Yemaya,Freya,Demeter,Mary,Kwan Yin-all standing behind you, bearing you up. And yes, you certainly do deserve to give yourself time to grieve. Wounds can only heal properly when they are cleaned down to the bottom, and tears are nature's soap and water.
:hugz:

[Shanti]

~hugs~

[Baba Yaga]

There are so many things that neither deity nor you have any control over-your husband's legal problems, your beloved dog's passing....when things like these happen, we can only react. Your husband is serving his punishment, but you have no reason to not hold your head up to police officers or anyone else. It was not your crime. You did not fail your dog, nature and his own body did, but only after eleven years of your love and companionship. Honour his memory by continuing to care for his kind. You will not fail them,either.

And you are not alone, as demonstrated by those posting here. Perhaps deity is speaking to you through us? Picture the deities associated with the different paths represented by us-Isis,Yemaya,Freya,Demeter,Mary,Kwan Yin-all standing behind you, bearing you up. And yes, you certainly do deserve to give yourself time to grieve. Wounds can only heal properly when they are cleaned down to the bottom, and tears are nature's soap and water.
:hugz:

Thank you. I hadn't thought about it that way.

[Baba Yaga]

~hugs~

thank you.

[moonchild]

There are so many things that neither deity nor you have any control over-your husband's legal problems, your beloved dog's passing....when things like these happen, we can only react. Your husband is serving his punishment, but you have no reason to not hold your head up to police officers or anyone else. It was not your crime. You did not fail your dog, nature and his own body did, but only after eleven years of your love and companionship. Honour his memory by continuing to care for his kind. You will not fail them,either.

And you are not alone, as demonstrated by those posting here. Perhaps deity is speaking to you through us? Picture the deities associated with the different paths represented by us-Isis,Yemaya,Freya,Demeter,Mary,Kwan Yin-all standing behind you, bearing you up. And yes, you certainly do deserve to give yourself time to grieve. Wounds can only heal properly when they are cleaned down to the bottom, and tears are nature's soap and water.
:hugz:

exactly what i was thinking....


it doesn't matter how long it takes for you to pick up your dog's bowls, whenever you feel its right to do so is ok. You don't have to be strong all the time, sometimes you need to tap off the emotions so that you can think clearer and see things better.

[Lauren Michele]

I am sorry for all that you are enduring at this time in your life. :hugz:

[Katya]

I don't know. I haven't been able to empty my dog's bowls yet. He died this afternoon, and I'm still crying. How do I rise above? I feel strong need to let myself feel sorry for myself for at least a day or two. Since the day my husband was arested I have been staying strong, saying the comforting words, taking five buses to get to court, working extra to pay for a lawyer. I have been putting on the brave face, giving him absolution, since he had the courage to face up to his actions and turn himself in, dealing with his parents. Comforting his and my friends. But at least I had my dog. I took him for a walk and now he is dead. He had heartworms and I took him for a longer than he could handle. I couldn't save my dog and I couldn't bring my husband home. When do I get to stop being strong and brave and have someone take care of me for a day? Do I even deserve it? How could I not know that that path would be too long for my dog?

i give you hugs for losing your furbaby, you didn't know it was too long of a walk and it was his time to do to the big doghouse in the sky. he's off to better things. maybe one day he'll be reincarnated into another animal for you to love.


can't say anything about the husband that wouldn't upset you, as i'm a victim of a pedophile myself. sorry :/

[Baba Yaga]

i give you hugs for losing your furbaby, you didn't know it was too long of a walk and it was his time to do to the big doghouse in the sky. he's off to better things. maybe one day he'll be reincarnated into another animal for you to love.


can't say anything about the husband that wouldn't upset you, as i'm a victim of a pedophile myself. sorry :/

I appreciate the comfort you offer, even thought it must be hard.

[Baba Yaga]

exactly what i was thinking....


it doesn't matter how long it takes for you to pick up your dog's bowls, whenever you feel its right to do so is ok. You don't have to be strong all the time, sometimes you need to tap off the emotions so that you can think clearer and see things better.

I appreciate the support.

[Baba Yaga]

I am sorry for all that you are enduring at this time in your life. :hugz:

thank you.

[Annorah]

I think that you are perfectly entitled to feel down with what you have gone through.

Losing your dog must have been so very difficult after what you had been through with your husband. Give yourself time to heal.

Remember that it is always darkest before the dawn!

:hugz: to you - stay strong.

[Epona44]

Bad things happen to good people, and often we never understand the why of it. Sometimes it's our inexperience that leads us along the dangerous path, sometimes we think we know what we are doing and our efforts backfire. Sometimes stuff just happens. Know that your efforts to do what is right are not in vain. You are being tempered, like good steel.

I, also, have experienced very bad things in my life. My daughter was raped a couple of years ago by three men (all supposed friends) who got away with it. She was in a terrible emotional and spiritual place at that time. She ended up being divorced.

Then she met someone who cared for her, and now her life is much better. She has a daughter, Serenity, born May 2 last year and another on the way.

Life can take you on a treacherous path, but it can lead you to a spiritual oasis as well. The rain falls on all of us, whomever we are.

You can survive this, and you will.

[Drouach]

Baba,

The best way to honour the spirit of your dog, is to get a new puppy, or two puppys.

I've seen it time and time again, that this begins to heal the wounds of a pet loss.

It's about renewal. The loss of a loved one, and the beginning of a new loving relationship.

Especially now your hubby is away from you - two new little puppies would be the best thing for you. Babies to put your energy into.

*hugs*

[LadyCelt]

prayers sent


(((( hugs ))))