School Orders 'Thong Check' for Girls

[Djiril]

I've gone to some strange schools in my time, but never this strange!
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,51636,00.html

[shnen]

:mad: that is dispicable... UGH!

[Faery-Wings]

I saw that yesterday on abcnews.com How absolutely demeaning.:mad: And what in the world does thong underwear have to do with a HS dance?

The asst principal who conducted the searches is on "administrative leave."

Chris

[Yvonne Belisle]

In some ways I can appreciate why they did it but the where and without parental concent was way off base not to mention if they were going to do anything like that at all then parents and students should have been told that thongs were unacceptable and there was the potential for checks. The school can get sued over this especially in sue happy southern california

[Chibi-Fallon]

Unless you can see it in the first place, how can it be can it be called inappropriate? And what the hell is wrong with that woman?! :mad: I mean ewwww!

[Yvonne Belisle]

Some boys never grow up and will lift girls skirts at a dance hence they could be embarassing to the girl. However the whole thing about the boys doing that is one thing the assistant principal doing it in public is a whole new ballgame. They did exactly what is the only excuse I can think of for the check in the first place!

[Myst]

Uhm in that situation the girl would be embarassed whether she's wearing a thong, briefs, or a chastity belt, and a boy should get in trouble either way as well. I agree with you Chibi.

[Yvonne Belisle]

Very true but it is the only situation I can think of that they could have been thinking of as them being inappropriate. I never said they were in the right just that I can apreciate why they might have done it. I don't think they were right in doing it at all. I think it's a parents job to allow or disallow personal attire such as bras panties briefs and boxers. The ultimate responsibility for such attire falls to them not the school. The school could have sent a letter asking people not to wear them and giving them a reason for the request but I do not believe they did so in this situation.

[Nyx]

If you can't see it, who cares? Schools should not be allowed to be underware police! That is none of their business!
I also think the whole idea of boys lifting up girls skirts is ridiculous. I never saw that happen, and I doubt it's much of a problem.
That woman should be fired.

[Phoenix Blue]

What if the girl went regimental? That's not wrong, is it? I mean, they're just checking for thongs. . .

[Twilight Garden]

So what happens if the girl doesn't wear underwear at all? My aunt never wears them except once a month. Hasn't since middle school. She's out of school now, but what about those girls?

[Azure]

Well, this report is from Fox News, and they don't exactly have a great record for accurate reporting, so I'd take the story on a level with something you read in the National Inquirer or the Star (same owner, after all).

If it is true, it's pretty sad. . .

[Radocs]

I saw this story on Yahoo too if that adds any credibility. :rolleyes:

[Earthcup]

I heard it on the radio today. What a crackpot! :rolleyes:

and my mom thought checking skirt length was demeaning.....

My 12 yo niece has thong underwear and her mother bought it for her. Therefore she has permission to wear it. No biggie...

However she doesn't like the "wedgie" feeling... neither do I!

*a man must have inveted thongs.......:lol:*

[Tenders]

From another article (http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/nm/20020430/od_uk_nm/oukoe_life_panties_1) about it:

"In some cases, said Rancho Bernardo parent Kim Teal, girls also were made to partially undress if Wilson or another teacher suspected that they weren't wearing bras. "

This is just sick!

[Loon]

I also think the whole idea of boys lifting up girls skirts is ridiculous. I never saw that happen, and I doubt it's much of a problem.

I never saw anything like that happen in high school, but it was a problem for me in elementary school. The (female) principal's reaction was, "Boys will be boys." I stopped wearing skirts, and I still don't wear them very often.

The teachers and principal who conducted those clothing searches should be fired and have their licenses taken away. That's just plain sexual harassment. It's bad enough having to worry about boys in high school, but you would like to think you're safe with teachers, principals, and police officers…this is really disturbing.

[shnen]

What is the big deal about thongs anyway? You can't see them, and they are a heck of a lot more comfortable too!
Are they telling us next that they are gonna have underwire bra checks???

They went WAY too far here...

[Yvonne Belisle]

My Mother in Law lives in that basic area of California this really did happen even if it is Fox news that reported it. :(

[Yvonne Belisle]

This is also on CNN and it wasn't just panty checks it was bra as well. At the door in front of teachers students and police acording to the article. What were the cops thinking not to stop this as a public indecency issue if nothing else?????

http://www.cnn.com/2002/US/04/30/life.underwear.reut/

[Yvonne Belisle]

Also it involved male students as well that were checked as per this quote


"Female and male students complained of having to lift their clothing and expose their undergarments to Assistant Principal Rita Wilson and counselor Natalie Johnson outside the gym while their peers watched. "

For the full article go to http://www.uniontrib.com/news/northcounty/20020501--n75890.html

This article has more detail than the others and is worth the read if you are interested in what happened.

[WandererInGray]

Thanks for that Yvonne.

*sighs and shakes head* This is seriously disgusting. One of these days people are going to have to take a look at the rights of students in relation to everyone else.

We have a dress-code here at work.....but if my boss made me hike up my skirt to see if I was wearing a thong....he'd get tossed in jail. And that's after he got out of the hospital.

[Garnet]

Teachers are allowed to check for underwear? Jesu matka!
Are girls who wear thongs or go bra-less more likely to expose themselves in public? (as happened in the news story Yvonne posted). What if the girl doesn't need a bra? Would she have been barred from the dance? If there was an 'underwear code' instituted at this school, it should have been posted before the dance, along with the warning that students would be checked before being allowed to enter the dance, so the ACLU could have been there with Ms. Wilson.

The two women involved should be drummed out of the teaching/administrating/principaling business entirely.

[Yvonne Belisle]

The article where it said a girl had exposed herself at the last party like this also said she took her panties off. So for all I care she could have been wearing what my family calls granny panties and it would have made no difference so a thong check wasn't called for at all.

[mol]

Originally posted by Yvonne Thomas
Very true but it is the only situation I can think of that they could have been thinking of as them being inappropriate. I never said they were in the right just that I can apreciate why they might have done it. I don't think they were right in doing it at all. I think it's a parents job to allow or disallow personal attire such as bras panties briefs and boxers. The ultimate responsibility for such attire falls to them not the school. The school could have sent a letter asking people not to wear them and giving them a reason for the request but I do not believe they did so in this situation.

The school has no right to even suggest what underwear is suitable for any child. It underwear for crying out loud. Does anyone not see the stupidity in this? I imagine most of the underwear worn by these kids were bought by parents anyway.

I think its ridiculous, and my bet is it was an excuse to lift up little girls dresses.

As always, my humble opinon.

[mol]

Originally posted by shnen
What is the big deal about thongs anyway? You can't see them, and they are a heck of a lot more comfortable too!
Are they telling us next that they are gonna have underwire bra checks???

They went WAY too far here...

Ok, and for the other side of the story. When I was a teenager and in school my friends and I would play the 'thong-spotting' game.

:)

But, I still stand by the 'its-none-of-their-business' opinion.

[*~*Chary*~*]

Some boys never grow up and will lift girls skirts at a dance hence they could be embarassing to the girl

if the girl in question is willing to take that risk it is her risk to take NOT the schools .. this is a breach of the students civil rights and goes as far as to be considered sexual harassment or sexual violation

[Danustouch]

OMG!!!!!!!!!! How dispicable! Man..I hope the parents of the Kids involved in this sue the schoolboard for mental anguish! MANY kids at that age are insecure enough about their bodies as it is, without having to publically display them for a freaking thong check. I think this counselor and principle are perverts, frankly, and I wouldn't be surprised if there were hidden camera's somewhere around there.

UGH..this infuriates me! If anyone ever did that to my kids, I'd yank them out of school, and slam a lawsuit down quicker than you could bat an eye. This is yet another reason why I think i will Homeschool my kids!

[Yvonne Belisle]

I think the boys that had underware checks were just as embarassed as the girls and I hope that even if the schools do fire the two involved that the parents still sue. I also think the cop that didn't imediately stop it should be suspended even if he eventually did something about it.

[shnen]

Originally posted by mol


Ok, and for the other side of the story. When I was a teenager and in school my friends and I would play the 'thong-spotting' game.

:)

But, I still stand by the 'its-none-of-their-business' opinion.

Yes, but even the 40 and 50 year olds I work with now still play the thong spotting game...

I would much rather see the triangle from a thong then aweful underwear lines!

And yes... it IS none of their business...

[Alphyna]

That's aweful! It does not matter if there are wearing thongs! Or was it because they were wearing short skirts? Then I could see it being innapropriate. Weird...what a world we live in!
Sarah

[Myst]

If they were wearing skirts so short that the thongs were visible they wouldn't have had to do a check, I imagine. Also, if I'm reading correctly it was done to boys *and* girls, and bras were checked too.

[Yvonne Belisle]

Yes Myst you read correctly BOYS and girls were checked. Neither sex should have had to go threw that. Unfortunitly everyone is focusing on the girls and leaving out the boys which makes it seem like the boys had less emotional trauma. :(

[faeriedust]

i have 3 daughters and i would absolutely loose it if someone did that to one of mine. there is NO excuse for that. there are some really sick people in this world and the sad thing is there in positions where they can tramatize and hurt our children.

[Chibi-Fallon]

At my school, someone on the gymnastic team gave one of the other girls a bright pink sparkley thong (in class). :D It's a rule that they have to wear one (if you're on the gymnastics team) and she didn't have one (gag gift). Then the guys were trying to figure out "how it worked". 8O They were really fascinated. Then one of them ended up wearing it like a hat. 8O And I'm in the advanced classes. :rolleyes:

[Epona44]

However, if this were to happen in Massachusetts we'd have the school administrator's head on a platter. He'd never work again.

It's nobody's business what underwear girls are wearing, and it's up to parents to enforce such rules.

I smell a lawsuit.

[materra]

Whatever happened to common sense? Sorry, but if the public clothing is covering them, it is none of their business about what may or maynot be underneith.

I have seen, lately, a couple of women wearing thongs with the sides up over the top of their hips, and the waist of the pants below that. But is was during Spring break so I assumed it was normal for that genre of fun. Did I miss something again? I know they wore thongs, but I didn't think it was all that important. Of course with a history of sky clad work it is hard to point fingers...ha ha.

[Flaire-FireStar]

That's just horrible! I agree with whoever said that the administrative staff at that school are pervs... (And the cops were there?!?!) Ugh!

Okay..School is supposed to be a "safe" place, although as of late, I think the education systems are getting worse and worse..This takes the cake for sexual harrassment from what I've seen.. If I were the children's mother I'd take them right out of that school..I *wouldn't* want them anywhere near that VP if she's going to go around doing things like that. :rolleyes: Ugh!

[bansidhe]

me and *most* of my friends are in the same ages group as those kids and ...ugh! i agree with whoever said that school is *meant* to be a safe place, but this kinda thing juss doesnt help that image at all. if someone did that to me or my 13yr old sister, id deck them! its not necessary for anyone but you to know this kinda thing!

[Brujaverde]

IMO it's just another example of the many abuses that go on in the schools & Kids underpants aren't their business. This was a woman gettin' kicks from lookin'. The "check" was just the excuse & the worse thing is it's being bought!!! She didn't get fired!
If your boss did this to you at work in front of co-workers no less, what would you do? Take it. Get them fired! Keep working there!? T
his is no different than the catholic church moving people around so that they can abuse even more without being suspect to uninvolved parents. This person will be moved somewhere else & she'll be carefull to abuse in private next time & no one will suspect her cause she's a female.

[Haedis]

Alright let me get this straight...they dont want the guys to check out the girls who are wearing thongs...so in order to remedy that problem they take them outside, line them up and make them display their panties for EVERYONE to see? isnt that just a BIT counterproductive? Not only are the adults looking, but you can be sure all their classmates are as well.

If I was there I'd just say "f... this" and leave. No dance would be worth that embarrassment. I agree they should be thrown in jail.

[Mythrel]

this is just plain wrong and this woman needs to lose her job and be charged with something...I don't even want to talk about what I would do if it had been my daughter that this lady did this too...

[Phoenix Blue]

Quoth Haedis:
If I was there I'd just say "f... this" and leave. No dance would be worth that embarrassment. I agree they should be thrown in jail.
An enterprising young exhibitionist could have turned this into a contest to see who had the sexiest panties. . . :p wouldn't that have gotten the administration's knickers in a wad?

[Lauralu]

This has to be the most digusting (and ILLEGAL) thing I've ever heard of. If you can't see it, who cares? My high school has outlawed shorts at school b/c some girls were wearing them up their cracks. I can understand that. But lifting up the skirts to see what could not be seen in the first place is sooo wrong. What kinda woman gets her yaa yaa's out like that?

[crystalmoon]

If you ask me this Rita is a bit of a perv.
Reminds me when we had to take showers in school while the gym teacher watched.
:shaker:
cold shivers down spine

[SimplyStrange]

Originally posted by mol

I think its ridiculous, and my bet is it was an excuse to lift up little girls dresses.

That's exactly what I was thinking, mol.

I still don't see how they were trying to 'protect' the kids from anything. I mean, dress codes are made for a reason, right? To prevent distraction, to be appropriate, they also prevent sexual harassment, I'm sure... but what in the hell?? How is this NOT going to be worse than a dress code violation. If anything, the vice principal caused more damage than she was preventing...

I don't understand why this was allowed to happen! I just can't even find the words... :mad: Who did she think she was fooling? Who's to say what kind of underwear anyone should wear? And I also would like to know what would happen if a girl or guy was going "commando"??? Well, aside from scarring the child for LIFE, that is.