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Earthcup
May 4th, 2002, 10:57 PM
A woman took my mom's burger at a restaurant today and looked pretty smug about it. My mom just quietly waited for the next one to come up but I sat there thinking about how mean and rude the woman was and how this would return on her.

As we were waiting and eating I noticed the woman began to look sheepish and wouldn't look our way. Then she came up and apologised to my mom before she left. Very different from her manner earlier.

It surprised me and I began to wonder if I had cast a spell without even realising it...

Anyone else ever have something happen like this? :huh:

Myst
May 4th, 2002, 11:39 PM
Well you didn't necessarily "cast a spell" but you could've projected energy or perhaps your aura/energy changed so much that it was perceptible to her.

It's also kind of the basis of glamouries. Very cool stuff. The same thing happened to me in a salon one day - the lady was totally a ***ch until I started projecting "back off!" and then she was fine. Neato huh :)

Earthcup
May 5th, 2002, 12:01 AM
It's all energy and I think of it all as the same thing...:) I tend to streamline too much...

It was still an odd experience... made me think I should be a bit more careful, wouldn't want to do something I'd regret....

I've heard people say glamours are bad unless used for defense because they involve altering other's perception. I'm not sure I agree with this. Covering up a pimple is also altering others perception of me.. if I think trying to change the appearance of my eyes is a good way to practice my will power I don't see the harm...

Glamoury is also a part of some forms of shamanism, taking on the attributes of certain animals.... borrowing a parrot's brightness and beauty or a polar bear's camoflage...

*wanders off talking to herself..*

Mithrea
May 5th, 2002, 12:03 AM
I used to do it often. Usually though, it was the product of uncontrolled anger and the outcome was never so good. Once I started meditating and got my mind (and rage ;)) under control, it stopped. But that is the extent of my experience with it. :sunny:

Lavender
May 5th, 2002, 12:06 AM
My experience is more like what Myst is talking about. Last night, on my way home from a very bad day at work, someone sat next to me on the commuter train. He took up so much room, he was practically on my lap. I asked him nicely to move over. There was an empty seat on the other side of him. He gave me a very dirty look. So, I sat there & focused on my aura & kind of "filled" it out a bit on the side he was next to. After about 5 mins, he started edging off. By the end of the ride, he had moved to the other seat. :D

Earthcup
May 5th, 2002, 12:15 AM
The only other time that has ever happened was when I was conciously sending energy but this time I didn't even realise what I was doing, I was just thinking about how rude she was... it was interesting....:)

Dagda Moon~Lily
May 5th, 2002, 12:19 AM
Most often, when I do something like this, I'm completely unaware I'm doing it until I've had time to reflect on the situation. ;) I think it's a natural "talent" inherent in me. ....or maybe I just give off strong vibes! lol

Myst
May 5th, 2002, 12:35 AM
Originally posted by Earthcup
I've heard people say glamours are bad unless used for defense because they involve altering other's perception. I'm not sure I agree with this. Covering up a pimple is also altering others perception of me.. if I think trying to change the appearance of my eyes is a good way to practice my will power I don't see the harm...

Yup, there's a thread or two on this I remember - glamouries are good if used properly I think. As I was reading in one of my favourite books, Witchcraft Theory & Practice by Ly de Angeles, sometimes people glamourise themSELF. Sometimes they forget what is glamour and what is not. And that's not good. Sometimes they use the glamour so much as to lose themself or as to not be honest.

But used carefully and respectfully, I agree with you. I use them when in danger or when I'm afraid - I project anger or strength, or just "get away from me!". You might use a glamour at a job interview to appear confident (even if you're scared) too.

Earthcup
May 5th, 2002, 12:56 AM
I've only used them when I feel threatened but I've considered using a special type of glamour to make me seem non-threatening....

Some people can sense that I do things they don't like(magic, being Pagan) and they treat me weird. Some relatives treat me like that and it's starting to bother me.. One of my sisters has never liked me but now she pratically runs to avoid me. I'm not sure if my other sister told her about my religon or what but it really hurts...:(

Danustouch
May 5th, 2002, 01:08 AM
Yeah...i've manipulated the energy that I've given off, in order to effect a situation. But I think everyone does this without knowing it, or thinking about it. I think it's because human beings are far more sensitive to electro magnetic fields, and energy, then they ever sit down to think about, basically :) Great when it works, though. And when you can see the result.

Neptune
May 6th, 2002, 05:58 PM
I find that I contstantly manipulate the vibrations going on in a room ... normally at a party or social function to get everyone going ... energy bouncing is what we call it! But I admit I have done it with negative energy towards a person ... not good ... I do not suggest doing that one! ::bows head in shame:: But I manipulate energy constantly to try to make things easier in rough situations or to get a group of people's energy up like at a party or something.

Phoenix Blue
May 7th, 2002, 10:47 AM
On a somewhat more mundane level, body language probably has a lot to do with it, too. If you are angry with someone, the subtle differences in the way you hold yourself and the way you move will reflect that. The eyes and face are canvases for our emotions, too; and we give a lot of information about our mood through our facial expressions, which again we may not realize we're doing.

Yeah, there's definitely the energy aspect of it all to consider. . . but I don't think you'd have moved a whole lot of energy around one way or another without intending to do so. :) Intent is the power behind majick, after all.

Neptune
May 7th, 2002, 11:21 AM
Originally posted by Phoenix_Blue
On a somewhat more mundane level, body language probably has a lot to do with it, too. If you are angry with someone, the subtle differences in the way you hold yourself and the way you move will reflect that. The eyes and face are canvases for our emotions, too; and we give a lot of information about our mood through our facial expressions, which again we may not realize we're doing.

Yeah, there's definitely the energy aspect of it all to consider. . . but I don't think you'd have moved a whole lot of energy around one way or another without intending to do so. :) Intent is the power behind majick, after all.

I fully agree with that ... well put.

Eudaimonia
May 7th, 2002, 03:06 PM
I use a simple glamorie occasionally. When I don't feel like talking w/people, etc, I sort of make myself "sink into the wall". I try to make myself less noticable. It works (for me) unless someone is really trying to find me.

I've done the accidental energy stuff a couple times. Honestly, those were the nice ones (wanting someone to feel better, etc). The few mean ones were on purpose. Guess I've got some Karma to burn of there, huh?

Myst
May 8th, 2002, 12:42 AM
Originally posted by Eudaimonia
The few mean ones were on purpose. Guess I've got some Karma to burn of there, huh?

Presumably, if you believe in karma :D

Earthcup
May 8th, 2002, 03:36 PM
Or maybe they deserved it? :evilway:

Phoenix Blue
May 8th, 2002, 03:43 PM
Maybe, but few people are ever in a position to make that judgment.

Eudaimonia
May 15th, 2002, 06:47 PM
What's done is done, eh? I canna change it, and I'm not about to walk op to someone and say "Oh, I think I may have harmed you with my energy. Please forgive me." Talk about cracked back. Then again, I'd get some damn neat reactions...

Grey
May 31st, 2002, 10:00 PM
Maybe this is just an ego trip but...
Ocaissonally I'll look at someone and here words in my head that they were thinking


and just a coincidink but.... When I first came to this school the sport started to take serious loosing streaks and then when I started getting into sports and got more popular they got more wins. Most of my sayings jokes or opions once stated seem to spread really quickly through the school.
And people will say hello to that Ive never seen before??

weird hunh??