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Lolair
June 25th, 2007, 04:29 PM
Traditional Witchcraft

General Overview:

There are many arguments over what the definition of traditional witchcraft is and what practices qualify one to be under this title. It is often a heated debate within the community. In the most general terms, traditional witchcraft is a path whose practitioners follow pre-Wiccan traditions of witchcraft or pre-Wiccan witchcraft practices. It is not a Neo-Pagan path, but instead is more akin to reconstructionism in its adherence to historical accuracy and its incorporation of genuine practices, materials, and mythology as opposed to newly made ones. The majority of traditional witches incorporate pagan practices and witchcraft lore from folklore, folktales, ballads, oral lore as well as ethnological and anthropological texts - while others use journeying techniques or learn knowledge from ancestors or spirit guides. Hereditary and Family Traditions also fall into the category of Traditional Witchcraft (yes they do exist!) as do the traditional cunningfolk, wise women and men of the United Kingdom. Cultural witchcraft traditions are also sometimes included within this category as they blend well together, but for the sake of clarity I will keep them separate in this class, as for me personally it is up to the practitioner to include cultural traditions and religions in their witchcraft practices.

Most traditional witches and groups do not claim ancestry back thousands of years or of descending from a continuing line of witches for hundreds of years - but there are those out there who do. I would suggest to take these claims with a grain of salt and if you are thinking about joining a group with these claims I would suggest thoroughly researching them and asking a lot of questions first. If it sounds unbelievable it probably is - but family traditions do exist.

Disambiguation:

The term 'Traditional Witchcraft' may be confusing to some who have researched it on the internet, as currently there is a new practice forming in the witchcraft community under the name of traditional witchcraft. This practice is a combination of Cochrane and 1734-influenced craft also incorporating Sabbatic craft and ideas from various modern authors including Nigel Jackson, R.J. Stewart, Andrew Chumbley, Robin Artisson, and others. Instead of viewing this as a practice or tradition within traditional witchcraft, many confuse it with the category of traditional witchcraft itself and see it as the only path of traditional witchcraft. If the previous paragraph just confused you, then you're in the right place, and by the end of this lesson you will understand what I'm talking about (hopefully! *crosses fingers*).

Traditions:

The paths under the Traditional Witchcraft category include: Kitchen Witchery, Green Witchery, Hedge Witchery, 1734/Roebuck, Robert Cochrane and the Clan of Tubal Cain, Sabbatic Craft, Feri/Vicia, Fairy-Faith, Cunning Folk/Wise Women-Men/Cunning Art, Family Traditions, and others. The definitions of these paths may not be what you already perceive, so read on and stay tuned!

Resources:

This list of resources are of the best quality and reliability I have found on the web and other places. They are as unbiased as is possible and helpful to those interested in traditional witchcraft in general rather than a specific tradition.

Articles:

Traditional Witchcraft FAQ (http://www.shadowdrake.com/HSDwitchFAQ.html)
"What Traditional Witchcraft is Not" (http://www.shadowdrake.com/antitradwitch.html)
"The Differences Between Wicca and Traditional Witchcraft" (http://www.enchantedoak.com/tradwicca.html) Forums and E-Lists

Traditional Witchcraft Forums (http://www.traditionalwitchcraft.net/)
The Crooked Path (http://www.crookedpath.org/)
Traditional Witchcraft Yahoo Group (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Traditional_Witchcraft/)Websites

Hedgewytchery (http://www.hedgewytchery.com/indexb.html)
Boscastle Museum of Witchcraft (http://www.museumofwitchcraft.com/)
Traditional Witchcraft Wiki (http://www.traditionalwitchcraft.com/Main_Page)Books & Periodicals

The Cauldron (http://www.the-cauldron.fsnet.co.uk/)
White Dragon Magazine (http://www.whitedragon.org.uk/)
Capall Bann Publishing (http://www.capallbann.co.uk/)
Oak Magic Publications (http://www.oakmagicpublications.com/)
Acorn Guild Press (http://www.acornguild.com/)
Mastering Witchcraft (http://www.amazon.com/Mastering-Witchcraft-Practical-Witches-Warlocks/dp/0595420060/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1/103-2980201-8505444?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1182984188&sr=1-1) by Paul Huson
Old Tradition Crafte (https://protected.bizland.com/arsobs/titles_for_sale.html) by Robin Artisan
Witchcraft in the Middle Ages (http://www.amazon.com/Witchcraft-Middle-Jeffrey-Burton-Russell/dp/0801492890/ref=cm_lmf_tit_4_rsrsrs0/103-2980201-8505444) by Jeffrey Burton Russell
A History of Witchcraft (http://www.amazon.com/History-Witchcraft-Second-Jeffrey-Russell/dp/0500286345/ref=sr_oe_1_2/103-2980201-8505444?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1182984468&sr=1-1) by Jeffrey Burton Russell

Lolair
June 25th, 2007, 05:08 PM
Discuss Traditional Witchcraft here if you have any questions, opinions, or resources. :chatty:

Glory
June 25th, 2007, 08:24 PM
I has me a question! Just because I want to clarify. :)

You mentioned that Traditional Witchcraft is not a Neo-Pagan practice, which makes sense. I was just wondering how we're using 'Neo-Pagan', because I've seen some debate, such as, all witches who practice now are neo-pagans vs. only practitioners of new crafts (Wicca, etc.) are neo-pagans.

I'm guessing we're assuming the latter? I know you'll go in depth about it when we get to Neo-Paganism, obviously.

~Owl~
June 25th, 2007, 10:19 PM
As a "Traditional" witch myself, of the Pictish/Faery path, and a "non-Wiccan", you've perked my interest as well.

Nitefalle
June 26th, 2007, 01:41 PM
What is the Sabbatic tradition? I've never heard of that before.

Lolair
June 26th, 2007, 05:28 PM
Hi Glory, for the purpose of objectivity I will be using the outsider (non-pagan) definition of Neopaganism: new religious movements based on pre-Abrahamic religions. The majority of Neopagan religions stem from modern origin, but some do attempt to reconstruct previous pagan religions. Druidry (modern), Asatru, and Wicca are all Neopagan paths. I did not classify Traditional Witchcraft paths as Neopagan (although some can be), because the majority of paths within this category are continuations of older traditions, not reinventions or reworkings of ancient pagan religions.

To answer Nitefalle, Sabbatic Craft is a magical system made famous (at least known) by the late Andrew Chumbley (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andrew_Chumbley) who claimed that he was a hereditary witch and that his system came from his family tradition. He is mentioned in Chapter 15 or 16 of Hutton's Triumph of the Moon.

fay
June 26th, 2007, 05:32 PM
Druidry (modern), Asatru, and Wicca are all Neopagan paths.

Would Asatru not count as Recon?

Lolair
June 26th, 2007, 07:00 PM
Asatru is a form of Germanic Neopaganism which was part of a romantic movement that started in the 1800s much along the same lines as romatic druidism. The movement didn't stick until the 1960s and 70s and is now a recognized religion in Iceland, Sweden, Norway, and Denmark. Asatru is a new religious movement based on ancient germanic paganism, with the majority of knowledge being pulled from the Eddas and other classical texts. There is Germanic reconstructionism, but it does differ from Asatru - mostly in organization, worship, and terminology. I will go much further into the differences when I get around to Neopaganism and Reconstructionism. For now this thread is the Q & A on Traditional Witchcraft and the paths within it.

Blessings,
Lolair

fay
June 26th, 2007, 07:13 PM
Okay, thanks for the information. I look forward to that section.

Glory
June 26th, 2007, 07:38 PM
Hi Glory, for the purpose of objectivity I will be using the outsider (non-pagan) definition of Neopaganism: new religious movements based on pre-Abrahamic religions. {snip for length}

Thanks Lolair! Got it.

~NightFire~
June 27th, 2007, 07:04 AM
I don't have any questions (so far), but I just thought that I'd post to say that I'm enjoying this class, & that I'm learning loads already. :hahugh:

Lolair
June 27th, 2007, 02:17 PM
Thanks everyone for your words of encouragement! I just want to say that as I add more lessons on paths within traditional witchcraft, I hope everyone can see how they are all connected in some way to each other, and aren't as separate and pigeon-holed as they may appear at first glance.

Slainte!
Lolair

RubyRose
June 27th, 2007, 10:42 PM
Definitely peaked my interest so far. Love the class by the way. :)

S Strangled Silence
June 27th, 2007, 11:23 PM
It's nice getting a mix of what is out there. So far I am enjoying the class :)

~SS~