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Fiamma
July 5th, 2007, 06:46 PM
From http://www.timelessmyths.com/norse/aesir.html#Tyr


One-handed god of war. Tyr was possibly the son of Odin and of Frigg or the giantess Fjörgyn (Fjorgyn), and younger of brother of Thor. Snorri Sturluson says that his father was Odin in the keening of Tyr. Otherwise he was known as the son of the giant Hymir, particularly in the poem called Hymiskvida of the Poetic Edda.

Tyr seemed to be one of the earliest gods to be worshiped by the Teutonic people, known as Tiw or Tiwaz. Tiwaz (Tyr) was the most important god to the Germans at the height of Roman power, as the chief sky-god, the god of war and justice. In Scandinavia, however, Odin supplanted Tyr as supreme gods. Odin inherited many of Tiwaz's duties as the war-god, reducing Tyr to secondary role.

Tyr was also patron god of justice and the formality of war, particularly of fair treaties. Tyr had reputation of keeping his oath, guarantee of good faith. He was often seen carrying either a sword or spear of justice.

Unlike the Greek god Ares, Tyr was the bravest of all the gods. He was the god of courage and boldness. Tyr sacrificed his hand in an early encounter with Fenrir, an offspring of Loki and the giantess Angerboda. In order to bind Fenrir, the gods pretend to play game with the monster, Tyr placed his hand in the mouth of the giant wolf. However, when Fenrir found that he was been tricked and it was no game at all, he bit off Tyr's hand. Thereafter, Tyr was known as the One-handed As and feeder of the wolf.

In the Lokasenna, Loki not only accused Tyr of dishonesty in dealing, since he lost his right hand to Fenrir, but he also told Tyr that his wife had an affair with him (Loki). This unnamed wife gave birth to Loki's son.

Tyr died from wounds during his fight against Garm; a giant hell-hound that he killed at Ragnarök (Ragnarok).

The Romans identified Tyr or Tiwaz (German) with their own god of war, Mars (Ares). They were both celebrated on Tuesday (Tyr's day).


From http://www.pantheon.org/areas/mythology/europe/norse/articles.html



The original Germanic god of war and the patron god of justice, the precursor of Odin. At the time of the Vikings, Tyr had to make way for Odin, who became the god of war himself. Tyr was by then regarded as Odin's son (or possibly of the giant Hymir). He is the boldest of the gods, who inspires courage and heroism in battle. Tyr is represented as a man with one hand, because his right hand was bitten off by the gigantic wolf Fenrir (in old-Norse, the wrist was called 'wolf-joint'). His attribute is a spear; the symbol of justice, as well as a weapon.


At the day of Ragnarok, Tyr will kill the hound Garm, the guardian of the hell, but will die from the wounds inflicted by the animal. In later mythology, "Tyr" became to mean "god". He is also known as Tîwaz, Tiw and Ziu.


Old Norse: Týr; Old English: Tiw

From http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tyr

Tyr (Old Norse: Týr) is the god of single combat and heroic glory in Norse mythology, portrayed as a one-handed man. In the late Icelandic Eddas, he is portrayed, alternately, as the son of Odin (Prose Edda) or of Hymir (Poetic Edda), while the origins of his name and his possible relationship to Tuisto (see Tacitus' Germania) suggest he was once considered the father of the gods and head of the pantheon. Corresponding names in other Germanic languages include Tyz (Gothic), Ty (Old Norwegian), Ti (Old Swedish), Tiw, Tiu, Tio, and Tig (Old English), Týr (Modern Icelandic and Faroese), Ziu and Zio (Old High German), and possibly, even Teiw in Proto-Germanic, i.e., the Negau helmet.


http://www.northvegr.org/lore/grimmst/009_01.php
http://www.angelfire.com/empire/martiana/tyr/index.html


This is the website for a Faroese band named Tyr, I thought I'd include it as well:

http://www.tyr.net


I have to get back to work, but will edit this to include some more links later.

ModernKnight
July 9th, 2007, 06:17 AM
Tyr seemed to be one of the earliest gods to be worshiped by the Teutonic people, known as Tiw or Tiwaz. Tiwaz (Tyr) was the most important god to the Germans at the height of Roman power, as the chief sky-god, the god of war and justice. In Scandinavia, however, Odin supplanted Tyr as supreme gods. Odin inherited many of Tiwaz's duties as the war-god, reducing Tyr to secondary role.

In the Germania, Tacitus clearly denotes Odin as the supreme god. It was written about the German people at the height of Roman power (98 CE). If Tyr was ever the chief god, there is no evidence of it.

I would also take issue with the statement that Tyr was relevant for justice and fair treaties. The Prose Edda states that Tyr "is not a reconciler of men", which is the point of both justice and treaties.

Fiamma
July 9th, 2007, 08:42 PM
Cool, thanks for the info. Feel free to add anything else to the thread that you think is appropriate.

In the Germania, Tacitus clearly denotes Odin as the supreme god. It was written about the German people at the height of Roman power (98 CE). If Tyr was ever the chief god, there is no evidence of it.

I would also take issue with the statement that Tyr was relevant for justice and fair treaties. The Prose Edda states that Tyr "is not a reconciler of men", which is the point of both justice and treaties.

Mjollnir
July 29th, 2007, 09:54 AM
In the Germania, Tacitus clearly denotes Odin as the supreme god. It was written about the German people at the height of Roman power (98 CE). If Tyr was ever the chief god, there is no evidence of it.

I would also take issue with the statement that Tyr was relevant for justice and fair treaties. The Prose Edda states that Tyr "is not a reconciler of men", which is the point of both justice and treaties.


Tyr was very much so relevant for justice, he was considered to be directly associated with the Allthing, and if nothing else, the Thing is where treaties were made, peace brokered...always kept? no, but still...and law cases heard.

He was the focus of the main blót at last years East Coast Thing

Not only that, but it also states in the P.E. about those showing attributes of him are called "as brave as Tyr". "Tyr wise" etc. etc.

As far as him at one time being chief sky god, I have heard it as well although I am now rummaging through my lore and notes looking for it. It isn't something like in Heimskringla...Ynglinga Saga to be precise...where it goes on to state that it was Ullr who took over for...as opposed to being before him...

Yeah, everything I am finding is stating "it is believed......."

S_Wodening
August 2nd, 2007, 03:00 PM
The statements about Tyr only being able to favor one side in the Eddas relates to the idea that in a court case only one side can win, and the same is true of battle. One thing that is not mentioned in the sources above is Tyr serving as an example for honor. This can be assumed from the Anglo-Saxon Rune Poem where the North Star is apparently named for Tyr:

Tir is some token ---it holds troth well
With æthelings---aye it is on course
Over night's mists---it never swikes(i.e. "wanders/deceives").