Words

[Kaylara]

-- Posted by Marut on 7:00 pm on Dec. 31, 1969
I had the thought that words and names have power my argument that power is the abbility to do work and the deff of work is to cause a change so when you say someones name or a few words do you not cause a change somehow or someway there fore i beleive words and names have power what do you all think

-- Posted by Shatav on 7:00 pm on Dec. 31, 1969
It's actually a pretty common magickal law that names have power. It's been said that if you can find a thing's true name, you can control it. And as far as words go, the same holds true. There are even words that hold amazing power that we don't know the meaning of, but the word itself is so magickal that just by uttering it, we cause a change in the universe around us.

-- Posted by Polaris on 7:00 pm on Dec. 31, 1969
MM
hmmmm...interesting thought.i think words do have power, but it depends how you use them. you must put MEANING into your words.
MP
Polaris

-- Posted by mol on 7:00 pm on Dec. 31, 1969
Well, lets see if I can add...

Words do have power. I agree! But only when We Will them to be.

My point: A Word does nothing...unless we Speak it. Therefore...our Will to speak the Word...activates its 'Magickal' properties. Whatever they may be.


-- Posted by Shatav on 7:00 pm on Dec. 31, 1969

Words do have power. I agree! But only when We Will them to be.

My point: A Word does nothing...unless we Speak it. Therefore...our Will to speak the Word...activates its 'Magickal' properties. Whatever they may be.




Do you think that we need to know what the innate properties of that word are? (Just getting philosophical...don't mind me)

-- Posted by mol on 7:00 pm on Dec. 31, 1969
You know...this is actually something i started thinking about when I posted on this last. It would seem that a person must have some understanding of the word to activate its Magickal properties. As I am sure you have studied...A.Crowley had several power words that were Kabbalistically perfect BUT just knowing that and speaking them..does nothing. You have to have an understanding of the basic properties of the word to achieve any result.

So let me rephrase...to Speak is not enough..you must Will...and to Will you must have a Purpose or Understanding.

Hmmm...philisophically right back at you.. :biggrin:

-- Posted by samoanshark on 7:00 pm on Dec. 31, 1969

Quote: from mol on 6:46 pm on Feb. 8, 2001
Well, lets see if I can add...

Words do have power. I agree! But only when We Will them to be.

My point: A Word does nothing...unless we Speak it. Therefore...our Will to speak the Word...activates its 'Magickal' properties. Whatever they may be.




I agree partly with mol regarding "speaking the Word" but I also believe that "signing" the word for those who cannot speak it is just as strong. In fact, perhaps, signing it might be even stronger. It would be a silent yet powerful message. I have been teaching songs to my Sunday school children for the last 11 years and when I teach them a new song I do the actions for specific words... Not only does it get the message across better for the little ones but it stays with them forever. Just my thoughts. Blessed Be. samoanshark

-- Posted by mol on 7:00 pm on Dec. 31, 1969

Quote: from samoanshark on 5:32 pm on Feb. 8, 2001

I agree partly with mol regarding "speaking the Word" but I also believe that "signing" the word for those who cannot speak it is just as strong. In fact, perhaps, signing it might be even stronger. It would be a silent yet powerful message. I have been teaching songs to my Sunday school children for the last 11 years and when I teach them a new song I do the actions for specific words... Not only does it get the message across better for the little ones but it stays with them forever. Just my thoughts. Blessed Be. samoanshark



A great POST! Thank you very much...you know this reminds me a lot of the Golden Dawn and other very ritualistic systems of Magick. Not only do they utter very powerful words, but they also give signs as well. Which only adds to the power of the ritual.

My wife, semele, just added that when she seea a child give the sign of "I love you" she thinks it is much more special than just the words. Because small children really have to work to get their little hands into that position.

Anyway, enough rambling...lets continue..

-- Posted by Shatav on 7:00 pm on Dec. 31, 1969

So let me rephrase...to Speak is not enough..you must Will...and to Will you must have a Purpose or Understanding.



I've also run across a lot of magickal documents that speak of words of power, however, that have no meaning to the human consciousness, that can affect just by being thought of and spoken. As in, someone without any prior knowledge could pick up the words and something would happen.

I actually had three of these words given to me in a dream once. I used them one day, and well, now I know what they do anyway. :biggrin:

I'm rather torn, myself on the whole topic. I think there are "perfect" words that can do just that, but that they're few and far between. Now where they come from and why they work? I'm still pondering that one...

-- Posted by Shatav on 7:00 pm on Dec. 31, 1969

I agree partly with mol regarding "speaking the Word" but I also believe that "signing" the word for those who cannot speak it is just as strong. In fact, perhaps, signing it might be even stronger.



Indeed it might be! I hadn't ever considered it. But signing is a way of ritualistically displaying a word, so it would therefore be saying the word with a ritual. Very interesting insight!

-- Posted by mol on 7:00 pm on Dec. 31, 1969

Quote: from Shatav on 7:06 pm on Feb. 8, 2001

Indeed it might be! I hadn't ever considered it. But signing is a way of ritualistically displaying a word, so it would therefore be saying the word with a ritual. Very interesting insight!



In fact, the most ritualistic way to "say" a word.

[Shadowolff]

Very interesting, thanks all.

[Nighthawk]

Hey cool!! A post from the before times... but, I would like to know why they say 1969

[Kaylara]

Glitch with the old board.

[mol]

Glitch with the old board.
One of many...

[Flaire-FireStar]

Oh gods. Another one!! :ghost:

[TWILIGHTSKY]

A few months ago my Mom and I were talking in the wee hours of the night about a sensory thing we'd tried a decade earlier. Back then she'd made up some cards with about five simple shapes on them, which she wanted me to focus on to see if she could pick up what image I was looking at. We hadn't much luck then, but I was a fidgety teen that wanted to do other things at the time. This time we tried it, it was really cool. We were on the phone, 50 miles apart, without the cards so we focused back and forth on shapes- I would see a color and get the feeling of a square( I know this sounds strange) + lo + behold, she had been thinking of a square! (circles, triangles) a single shape for each flow of energy sent. What made it so cool was that after about a dozen times, every one being right- she was trying to send one last image before bed. I just couldn't get it. It kept bouncing between a square,circle, + triangle in my mind, Iwas tired, and I told her that I just couldn't get it because it kept flitting around like that. She was quiet for a second before telling me that she'd been having a hard time concentrating because the shape she'd been trying to send kept shifting between three - and they we're the same! Anybody else have things like that happen? I'd love to hear it!

[Romani Vixen]

I personally feel that words do have power. when you speak it, it's like using an herb by making an infusion. I also think that there are power words.

[Golden Princess]

Sorry

Did I miss a point !!!!! :whatmewor

[The Festival Spirit]

I have recently re-discovered the Power of words, I was amazed to find that I had the power to create tens of thousands of GB Pounds (£) for a multi million pound company, I had been doing it consistently on one day of the year, unbeknown to me, until very recently, that it was because of me that this thing was happening and has done since the year 2000, so much so that the particular company went to very special lengths on that particular day each year from 2003 onwards, I am working on a way to tell them that it was me behind it, and that if its to continue, I would like a contract with them saying that a percentage of the money raised through my words and actions go to a special cause or charity, mutually agreed by myself and that company. I may in future ask for others opinions, on where the money should go

This quote can be found on a thread >HERE< (http://www.mysticwicks.com/showthread.php?p=1912255#post1912255)

" If I was to go to Africa and/or India, for instance, and nobody there spoke English, I would no doubt find it difficult at first, but I am sure that as time goes on and with a lot of patience from all parties, I would get by and make use of the things I would require by using sign language, I am deaf (90+% deaf) and that comes naturally to me, but I have not Studied British sign language much or any other countries, as, like speech different areas have different interpretations and inflections. "

I had not considered that signing words would make them more powerful, but now I realise it is true, Thanks for that.

A signing for all charity would be a worthy cause in my humble opinion.

Those of you that don't use sign, have you asked yourself why? do you never expect to meet a deaf person ? just wondering ;)

I am 38 and have been deaf for 7 years I am only just getting comfortable using the little sign language I know, I dearly want to work with deaf people, and assist them in their difficulties as I am aware of how it is to be hearing and how it is to be deaf, and one day I will be completely deaf, I am lucky that I can lip read english speaking people from england, but some people from different areas in the world make different shapes with their mouths when saying english words, than an english person would, I cannot lipread some people from england though, especially if they come from different places over here, regional accents also come through in lipreading in my view.

I hope this post goes someway to increasing awareness of the power of words and deafness, too.