I need help with a friend

[Shinmen]

I have a close friend who recently made a few new friends who are supposedly 'wiccan'. But the thing about these friends, is that they have wings. Demon wings, as in bat-like. These are part of their subtle/astral bodies. My close friends have told me that there's no way these people are white magick users. I'm worried for my friend, because they recently took them, and forced them into their coven, and opened a door in their mind. Now wings are growing from their back, and I'm worried that they might be trying to control them, and use them. If anyone can help me with some insight or advice, I'd be incredibly thankful. Please.

[Tanya]

Gentle Friend,

Why is no one answering your post?


Because we are pagans, not devotees of Buffy the Vampire Slayer.

I'm searching for ANYTHING in your post based on the observable.....

why do you think these friends are dangerous?

how do you know your friend is being coeherced?

Do you have ANYTHING besides your awareness of their astral bodies?

While the folks here are quite diverse, and speaking only for myself, that which is spiritual/methaphysical also manifests in some way in objective reality...

i.e. horrible people behave horribly, there is generally physical observable evidence as well as having a subjective sense that all is not well.... together, on these, I feel it is wise to act... without any evidence, I would be inclined to be alert and looking, but not act in any way that is going to alienate your friend.

btw...I think the demons are talking about are the standard Judeo-Christain constructs... you must understand that while some of us are practicing Judeo-Christians....most of us are not...


while there is sadneess, injustice, horror and cruelty in the universe, that there are organized forces of darkness is MORE typically a Judeo-Christian belief than a pagan one, so perhaps you would like to consult a priest.

I hope you work these things out.

[Shinmen]

They make her buy every meal when she's over there, help buy their groceries, and pay for most of their gas. She's started to behave differently, and begun to be increasingly more animistic towards me and her other friends.

[Tanya]

So talk to her. tell her you are concerned they are taking advantage of her, that her behavior has changed and you are worried...and offer her support, and be there for her.

[Annorah]

Tanya is right - you need to talk to your friend and express your concerns. However, please bear in mind that if your friend is an adult, she ultimately has the right to choose what she does with her life, even if you don't agree with her choices.

:hugz:

[Teresa]

:thumbsup:

[BlackLili]

The friends of your friend, do they happen to look like this?

[Caitlin.ann]

Wow..

[Xander67]

They make her buy every meal when she's over there, help buy their groceries, and pay for most of their gas. She's started to behave differently, and begun to be increasingly more animistic towards me and her other friends.

I am thinking more along the lines that these people are clever tricksters.

Firstly, they are manipulating her and holding her mind hostage forcening her to buy them groceries and help pay meals. This is psychological manipulation and is wrong.

They probably have her believing that f she does not do these things that something bad will happen, and that she can not leave the coven...
both of these (if so) are completely false.. the only power they have over her is the power she gives them through her fears.

your friend should just walk away from this lot and fast. they are trouble.

[Glowy]

^ Xander is much nicer than I... I think these people are asshats and are taking advantage of your friend. I think they have told her stories.

[CzechWoods]

I have a close friend who recently made a few new friends who are supposedly 'wiccan'. But the thing about these friends, is that they have wings. Demon wings, as in bat-like. These are part of their subtle/astral bodies. My close friends have told me that there's no way these people are white magick users. I'm worried for my friend, because they recently took them, and forced them into their coven, and opened a door in their mind. Now wings are growing from their back, and I'm worried that they might be trying to control them, and use them. If anyone can help me with some insight or advice, I'd be incredibly thankful. Please.

i am sorry the replies were probably not what you sought for



i completely understad your situation

gift the person a necklace made of hematite and malachite 1:1.

if you need more assistance, i am but a pm away

[Against The Tide]

They make her buy every meal when she's over there, help buy their groceries, and pay for most of their gas. She's started to behave differently, and begun to be increasingly more animistic towards me and her other friends.

If they are using her, hopefully she'll realise this and come back to her better friends. People are social animals and even if they have good friends and family around them, they will still want to meet new and different people. She might be trying so hard to please these guys because she thinks of herself as an outsider and wants to break into the cool clique.

As for the bodies you describe - demon/bat wings arn't nessisarly evil or connected (maybe shes seeking out this group BECAUSE she's got the wings, not the other way around) the wings could be a 'natural' development or a symbiotic relationship with an atral creature. Keep an eye on them, and try and handle this on a mundane front too - Give your friend plenty of space but let her know that you care and are looking out for her.

[Clair de la Lune]

I have never heard of the wings thing but would like to know more. I think they might try some mind control with her, and maybe not. Nobody can force someone to do what they don't want to do in part anyway unless they have a gun to her head and I find that doubtful in this situation. Sometimes perceived danger is an adrenaline rush for people and an addiction like anything else. Maybe it will take her falling to the 'bottom of the barrel' with these people for her to wake up and realize what she has at stake here but DON'T try to get her away from these people, just have the gentle talk of concerns here as listed above or you may lose her to them. When she feels she has to choose between you or them she may choose them, so don't put her in that situation, unless you are prepared. She may end up being a person you don't want to hang around with after a while anyway as tough as that sounds if she hangs with them for too long. That is her decision to make and if she chooses it, that is the way she wanted to go. I had a friend like that once. I kept being there for that person and kept getting hurt by that person again and again. I hope it's different for you! :)