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Earth Walker
April 20th, 2001, 12:21 PM
Losing your religion? Well, then, here's a new one,
finely tuned for the times.
by Geoff Olson

A beer-addled buddy fixed me with a bleary eye. "What
you need ish a new reelishun."
"A reelishun?" I said
"Your own reelishun," he replied, with a crooked smile.
"With a bible you wrote."
"Oh. A religion."
We had started by talking of global chaos in general, and this led naturally into the topic of the freelancer's
uncertain circumstances, with its strange loop of poor
cash flow. Over the space of too many pints we examined, and quickly rejected, several possible solutions. Robbing a bank wasn't in character, especially without a poet wife to argue my literary merits should I do time. A grow-op presented too much work and way too much paranoia--even for a non-smoker like me.
This is where my friend's religion idea came in. As far as
concepts go, I thought this one was somewhere between brainstorm and belly-laugh. I knew where he was going with it: the whole tax-free status thing. Perhaps a church with a rec room and lave lounge: Our Mother of Perpetual Foosball. Maybe some entertainment, too: jazz vespers and garage-band evensong.
In the past, religions have certainly emerged out of casual conversations between guys, at least according to the folklore of pop culture. While out fishing together,
L. Ron Hubbard and Frank Herbert purportedly had a bet
on who could come up with a successful religion. Herbert
came up with the classic science-fiction novel Dune.
Hubbard wrote Dianetics--and gave the world Scientology.
Some may object that Hubbard's organization is really a cult. But after all, what's a cult other than a religion without official status? Christianity was a cult in ancient
Rome. And as far as the gold standard of serious theological thinking goes, Scientologists believe disembodied souls fly around in space for a few thousand years before getting physical, while Christian
fundamentalists believe Satan planted fossils in the
earth to test man's faith. You decide which currency is
shakier. Since much of organized religion is funny peculiar, it may be high time for one that's funny ha ha.
Several years ago, a strange phenomenon erupted in an
evangelical church in Ontario. Churchgoers, apparently
possessed by the holy spirit, began to fall like tenpins in
the pews--laughing. The so-called "Toronto Blessing"
compelled patrons of the Vineyard Church to break out
into fits of laughter. According to news reports, the
phenomenon soon spread to other parts of the world,
and holy ho-hos were soon occurring in Capetown,
Bombay and Argentina.
In England an estimated 1,000 to 1,500 churches were
affected. Sounds pretty loony, but I wonder--maybe these people know something the rest of us don't. Maybe existence itself is profoundly funny.
Personally, I suspect that in the beginning was the guffaw. If we all went around in a permanent state of
awareness, satori, or what have you, we'd probably
never stop cracking up. We'd have the Toronto Blessing
24/7, hooting away at our own puffed-up selves, and
our imagined separation from others--and laughing in
the final realization that we're all in this together.
This brings us to the San Francisco-based Neo-American
BooHoo Church. It's not easy to top mainstream organized religion for wackiness, but the BooHoos
certainly tried. Writes Martin A. Lee in Acid Dreams, his
seminal account of '60's psychedelia: "Formed in 1966,
the BooHoos claimed that their use of LSD was sacramental, similar to the peyote rituals practiced by
Indians of the Native American Church, and should
therefore be protected under law." Not surprisingly, the
BooHoos lost their case in court when the judge ruled
that an organization with "Row, Row, Row Your Boat as
its theme song was not serious enough to qualify as a
church."
The BooHoos were led by a graduate student in psychology by the name of Arthur Kleps, described by
Harvard astronaut Timothy Leary as "a mad monk" and
an "ecclesiastical guerrilla." To the chemically altered
Kleps, there was something cosmic about a good belly
laugh. The church catechism was contained in his
BooHoo Bible, which included cartoons, true-or-false tests and other miscellany. For a small monthly fee,
honourary BooHoos received a psychedelic colouring
book as well as a subscription to the religious bulletin
Divine Toad Sweat, which carried the church motto:
"Victory over Horseshit."
Not surprisingly, the hippie-era BooHoos went out not
with a whimper but a bong. A mock faith tied to controlled substances didn't exactly make for a church with legs.

...to be continued...

Amethyst Rose
April 20th, 2001, 02:54 PM
My hubby, who's an athiest, and his friend, who's agnostic, started their own religion in University. It was called "The Church of the Allmighty Bob" (no, that's not a spelling mistake in "allmighty").
Anyway, the chuch was based on the Douglas Adams "trillogy", "The Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy". Reading all five books was a stipulation of being in the "Church", and you were initiated, by doing something weird or crazy....say, dying your hair purple..... they even started writing their own bible, in a very Douglas Adamsian way... their creation story was hillarious.
Their holy day was Thursday, and cheeze was the official "fruit" of Bob.... they went around saying "By Bob!" instead of "my god!", when something surprized them, etc., and if you did something particularily clever or weird, it was very Bob of you.
The whole thing was a hoot.... they were even going to make a website and put flyers on people's car windows letting them know about The Church of the Allmighty Bob.
Unfortunately....as friends they grew apart and the Church just died.... but it was a blast while it lasted.

Mariposa De La Luna
April 20th, 2001, 03:11 PM
Oddly enough, I was looking through one of my MIL catalogs and there were 2 pages of Bob Stuff. Shirts that said "Bob's Wife/Daughter/Son/Girlfriend" and alot of other stuff. I didn't get it then but now I do! ;)

Does anyone know what the scientologists are about?

gunner
April 20th, 2001, 09:06 PM
"does anyone know what the scientologists are all about?"

mostly about making money for the "church" hierarchy in every way possible. i don't know about that bet between hubbard and gordie dickson and since gordie passed recently we'll never know now, but hubbard was heard saying, at a sci-fi writer's bull session that the easiest way to get rich was to start a religion. i remember reading his original articles on "dianetics, a new science of the mind" in the old "astounding science fiction" magazine (now "analog science fact and fiction") back in the very early 50s and they didn't make a lot of sense then, i've grown and changed and they make even less sense now.

bluecat
April 20th, 2001, 09:17 PM
I am aware the Robert Heinlein's Stranger in a Strange Land is very key literature for the Church of All Worlds (CAW). http://www.caw.org/

Blue

gunner
April 21st, 2001, 12:59 AM
i hadn't heard of that one but heinlein firmly rejected any attempt to name him a "guru" of anything, and anyone wanting to call him a "new age phrophet" wants to read "starship troopers" first, (not a flame bluecat, i'm sure you know more about heinlein than the "c.a.w." types and i'm fairly certain you've read a good number of his books).

bluecat
April 21st, 2001, 01:59 AM
Originally posted by gunner
i hadn't heard of that one but heinlein firmly rejected any attempt to name him a "guru" of anything, and anyone wanting to call him a "new age phrophet" wants to read "starship troopers" first, (not a flame bluecat, i'm sure you know more about heinlein than the "c.a.w." types and i'm fairly certain you've read a good number of his books).


I know it's not a flame, gunner. I do know that the Heinlein Estate has vehemently opposed this and rightly so. I am NOT CAW, but have many friends who are or were and respect them as people, I just found it odd to have that book as a basis for a religion.

I have read all or most of Heinlein's works and my favorites are Farnham's Freehold, Friday, The Cat Who Walks Through Walls, and Starship Troopers . He had the vision to write these story and make them very enjoyable, but I never considered him some kind of prophet, just a really good, Sci-Fi author.

Blue :cool:

gunner
April 21st, 2001, 02:31 AM
then robert's ghost is smiling down upon you bluecat, that's what he wanted to be. i can't name a "favorite" heinlein story. they're all too good, but my "favorite" heinlein character has to be "lazarus long". by the way, his widow, virginia will be 85 within a few days. she's living in florida these days and except for some eye trouble is in good health.

Red Dragon
April 21st, 2001, 03:22 AM
I once thought of starting a church of my own based on the resurrection called " The Church of Jesus Christ, are you back again?" Like a fat Dragon I once knew, It never flew, Hee, hee ;)

bluecat
April 21st, 2001, 05:39 AM
Originally posted by gunner
then robert's ghost is smiling down upon you bluecat, that's what he wanted to be. i can't name a "favorite" heinlein story. they're all too good, but my "favorite" heinlein character has to be "lazarus long". by the way, his widow, virginia will be 85 within a few days. she's living in florida these days and except for some eye trouble is in good health.

Yes, I liked Time Enough for Love . :) It was a very good book and explored many things. Lazarus Long was a very good man.

Blue

Mariposa De La Luna
April 21st, 2001, 01:32 PM
I love Stranger in a Strange Land! :cool: Its my favorite book, but the real version not the skimpy one first released. Its very idyllic to me. I've read Starship Troopers and a couple others too but not all of them I think. I love the Lazarus Long character too and Jubal Harshaw. The man was brilliant! As for L.R.Hubbard, I didn't like his Deca-ology, I couldn't get halfway through the first one. But I loved Battlefield Earth, IMHO one of the most entertaining SF stories.

The Church of All Worlds was mentioned in Drawing Down the Moon by Margaret Adler. I think she said it was based mostly on Hienlien but other SciFi as well.

Armitage
April 21st, 2001, 01:37 PM
Isn't the Bob thing part of the Subgeniuses?

gunner
April 21st, 2001, 01:53 PM
why am i not at all surprised to find heinlein fans among a gang of intelligent, independent thinking people?

Earth Walker
April 21st, 2001, 02:04 PM
Originally posted by Armitage
Isn't the Bob thing part of the Subgeniuses?

See The Great Whatever II :D


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