Gay/straight/bi

[Angel]

I was just wondering, are any of you gay or bi? If so do you think paganism had anything to do with yuor coming out (or acceptance of yuor sexuality)? I heard a couple of people say that paganism has helped them do just that. it's also made them see the beauty of their sex. I'm curious as to what you think about this stament.

[Earth Walker]

I am a Transsexual Lesbian, but my Pagan beliefs
were not an influence to coming out.
If people have a problem with who I am or with my
beliefs, I hand them a card that says:

Got a complaint or grievance?
Call 1-800-Wha-aaah! :D


Only my cat understands me. :bigredgri

[Angel]

Good for you. People should just be who they are.

[bluecat]

Originally posted by Mystique
I am a Transsexual Lesbian, but my Pagan beliefs
were not an influence to coming out.
If people have a problem with who I am or with my
beliefs, I hand them a card that says:

Got a complaint or grievance?
Call 1-800-Wha-aaah! :D


Only my cat understands me. :bigredgri

But, Mystique ... ah luvs ya dahlin' ;) ...

I am straight but have no issue with gay or bi folks; I really think Paganism helps promote open-mindedness and acceptance of other people. As far as sexual preference, it just happens and I don't get my drawers in a bind over it.

The only problem I have is with pedophiles, no matter what their sexual orientation, I do have my limits.

Blue :cool:

[bluecat]

Lions and Tigers and Bears, Oh My! ;)

... sorry, couldn't resist that, it's just that the whole objection to homosexuality, or anything else that is not "NORMAL" always reminds me of that particular phrase from The Wizard of Oz.

Blue :cool:

[Angel]

Yes, paganism does promote open mindeness. I am bi and I would still be bi if I wasn't pagan, but I feel paganism helped me accept it in a round about way because alot of it forces you to be honest with yourself. I think thta's what I was getting at.

[Earth Walker]

I despise pedophiles! :smash:

[Angel]

Me too!!! But then, doesn't everyone? Unless you actually are a pedaphile!!

[Earth Walker]

:mad: I have been constantly speaking out against
Pedophile sites on the 'Net, lobbying the governments
to pass legislation and laws to make it illegal for that
shit to be on the web.
I am getting more people interested, and encouraging
them to write to the government and keep after them
until we get good, solid laws against pedophilia, and
keep these creeps behind bars for life, no parole!

[cydira]

Well I'm bi. Paganism helped me to recognize that there is nothing wrong with this. Along with many other things. Aside from that, I personally have a passionate rage held in my heart against pedophiles and any other incarnation of sexual abusers for several reasons. The least of which is the fact that I am a survivor of domestic abuse and I have many friends who are also sirvivors of that atrocity, some of whom were assaulted by pedophiles.

Sexual orientation has never been a problem for me. It was accepting my own sexuality that was a problem. In some respects, I guess it still is. Being in an abusive relationship for two years does not exactly help you to feel comfy about your person, especially in areas as intimate as your sexuality. I've been raised in a household that views sex as an expression of love and it is between you and your lover. Aside from that, it's a non issue.

[Lady Tana]

ok i just had to say something about "normal"...
its the best of the worst and the worst of the best

i prefer being me... unique

and as for my sexuality.... i am a very open sexual person... i believe in doing what feels right (to a point) and loving who i want to love..

guess that makes me straight/gay/bi all of the above eh?!

[Red Dragon]

We Dragons are pretty much aligned to the straight. Considering most Male Dragons are only appealing to the opposite sex since us males simply consider each other too damn ugly and a potential rival anyhow. ;) From time to time while basking in the moat, I've seen many varieties of couples and coupling around the castle, so I really don't see the problem, as long as it's mutually consentual and doesn't involve those who are hatchlings. Who am I to judge the sexual activities of others as long as it doesn't harm anyone nor directly affect me? After all, It takes all kinds.

However; I do recall someone saying "If God wanted us to be gay, He'd have created Adam, Eve, and Bruce" Hee, hee :p

[Angel]

Ooh, pediphilia!! Seriously, of all sex crimes, that is the worst. The worst p[art being that the poor kids wouldn't even understand. I suggest we all do our bit to stop rape, pediphilia and all other sex crimes yuo can wave a stick at!! Sexuality is a beautiful thing, and it should be treated with respect and dignity!!!!

[Angel]

Adam and Eve thing. That's sily!!:D I think if God hadn't wanted anyone to be bi or gay, no one would be bi or gay. Just my humble opinion anyway!!!

[sherry]

I am straight also, and the only person I have ever had a problem with "coming out" was my ex and the way he had chosen not to tell me while putting down my friends who are gay or lesbian!!
My closest male friend from high school is gay and I have never had any doubt that he is the warmest most open person that I grew up with!!
I do believe that once he came to terms with what he calls "his womanhood" he became more confidant and a beautiful caring person. Before this he was shy and distant and would only talk to me openly if no-one was around.

And at 5'10" tall I cant borrow clothes from another friend but him!! And I do love his good taste in clothes!!

[SahuaDjet]

MM,
As a child I thought girls were suppose to be with girls and boys stayed with the boys?!?! During childhood I had a "girlfriend" (meanig we explored our sexuality to gether). I never had a boyfriend or ever looked at one in the way of "boyfriend" so those two things led me to my beliefs. I had a bf in 8th grade but I refused to touch him (as if he was a space being or something lol). Not until highschool (10th grade) did I actually have a boyfriend and kiss (sex was out of the question!). I eventually worked my way to becoming bi sexual by meeting my highschool sweetheart (the only boy I feel drawn to and would have sex with). If I didnt have him I probably(meaning 98 percent chance) would be a lesbian. I came out of both closets as soon as I found out what I was. :) Paganism has helped me accept who I am a lot more!

Sahu Djet

[Mariposa De La Luna]

A story I heard this week. The discussion was on spells and how being too specific will bite your butt and that you had to be open to the answer:

So this lady was having a hard time with men and she wanted to find someone to settle down with. So she goes to this guy and gets a love spell, a perfume I think. And she's wearing it and waiting for a guy to find her. Well it turns out the perfect mate for her was a woman that had come into her life at that time and it took her a while to relize it.

I am bi, I guess. I've never been with another woman but I do find them attractive. Bi people must have more fun because theres twice as much to chose from! ;)

[Dria El]

Originally posted by Angel
I was just wondering, are any of you gay or bi? If so do you think paganism had anything to do with yuor coming out (or acceptance of yuor sexuality)? I heard a couple of people say that paganism has helped them do just that. it's also made them see the beauty of their sex. I'm curious as to what you think about this stament.

I experimented when I was younger (never singly with a woman) but decided that nothing could replace a 'hot throbber'. hehe :D Hence, I'm straight. All of this was decided well before I knew I was Wiccan. The thing I think finding out about Wicca helped me with is 'straightening me out'. Meaning, I decided I wanted more out of a relationship than 'instant gratification'. Which, is probably why I've been alone so long. But... that's another story.

Revealingly,
Dria El

[Xois]

ever since I can remember, I have found women BEAUTIFUL! I think I became aware of it around age 8. I have never had any guilty feelings associated with it. I have always just thought it was normal to feel the way I did / do. I am Bi, but have never ever had any type of self loathing or confusion (I don't know why)

I have always been "out" so to speak. I don't tell people who don't ask / don't say something stupid that makes me HAVE to say somethign!

I have never found men (nude) pleasing to the eye (except the one I am with now), but have always felt a great awe and passion and appreciation of the nude female form. Becuase of this, I thought I would eventually end up with a woman, but I am very (sort of, depends on the day) happy with guy I am with now. So its worked it self out that way so far. That could change tomorrow.

So actually, being bi has made my understanding of the duality of Paganism much deeper, I think!

Its so hard to try to cogitize all of this...usually I just chalk it up to "that's just who I am!"

Mystique, I love that card!

I had one that said, if you have a problem or complaint, please contact my creator and it gave some number! LOL

Pedophilia is not sex. It is the love of children (it does not, be definition, involved physically hurting children in any way) Molestation on the other hand is bad bad bad! Porn on the web is a different thing...its hard for me to say. I do think that children should be left alone. No child should be subjected to being abused for the sake of pictures. One the other hand, if its virtual (there is a movement away from "real" models to computer animation) than I am torn about whether or not it should be banned. AFter all, there are no victims. In this country, it is unconstitutional to ban something becuase it MIGHT make someone do something illegal. Its been a huge argument for the gun lobby. So I don't know.

my my, that was long winded.

Xois

[Dria El]

Originally posted by Xois
ever since I can remember, I have found women BEAUTIFUL!
Xois

I feel the same way, which is probably why I 'branched out' when I was younger but have found that I don't get along with most females. Someone once told me that I don't have any female friends because they view me as competition. I'd hate to think that's true but I guess it's entirely possible. The only females I'm friendly with now, I don't see very often and DEFINITELY don't have ANY interest in their brand of losers. OOPS! I mean boys. Damn! I mean men! hehe :P ;)

8O -ingly,
Dria El