Theban Script

[Shy Hawk]

Well I started talking to Mairwen about this and I was interested in what you all had to say about it aswell.
I started trying to read and write Theban Script. Do any of you use these forms of writing, or Runes or what have you?
I have learned that it's used for writing messages, of the secret kind, and magickal words and whatnot that you write on parchment or scratch onto things. Do any of you use these things?
Forgive my poor grammar it's 4:15 AM.
:o
Shy Hawk

[Amethyst Rose]

When I first started studying the craft, I made a point to learn the Theban Script, and I even wrote private things in it, etc. However, I really haven't used it in about 4 years, so I've completely forgotten how to read and write it.... I think I was more concerned about other aspects of the craft for it to stay important to me....
However, I do have a friend who writes everything to do with the craft in Theban Script.... but then, she's just that kind of person....she can read hyrogliphics too....

[Apple]

I use Theban... writing I've gotten down, it's just the reading that's hard. It takes me forever to read what I've just written with my own hand! 8O

I don't feel that writing in magic scripts is necessary to my faith or even particularly makes me feel more involved or "authentic" (especially since I don't really know the history of Theban writing!) but I just wanted to put forth the effort to learn it and stick to it almost as a form of showing my dedication, you know?

[Shy Hawk]

I understand what you mean Apple. I too have no idea about the history of it, or why it's used. This is of some debate among the few people I've asked about it.
Any ideas on this would be fascinating.
Thanks for your info so far. :D
Shy Hawk

[Dria El]

Originally posted by Shy Hawk
Well I started talking to Mairwen about this and I was interested in what you all had to say about it aswell.
I started trying to read and write Theban Script. Do any of you use these forms of writing, or Runes or what have you?
I have learned that it's used for writing messages, of the secret kind, and magickal words and whatnot that you write on parchment or scratch onto things. Do any of you use these things?
Forgive my poor grammar it's 4:15 AM.
:o
Shy Hawk

I use the Theban script to consecrate my tools but that's about it so far. I do have the font but haven't found cause to use it. Does this help?

Blessings,
Dria El

[Elaine]

I was looking at the Theban Script the other day and found it fascinating! This may seem like a stupid question...so forgive me for my ignorance if it is....but there are letters missing.....the website I was on showed what they use for those missing letters and I was wondering if everyone uses the same thing for those letters or if that person just kind of made something up.......I am interested in learning it and do not want to learn wrong.....any insight would help.....thanks and Blessed Be!

P.S. For those of you who don't know me, I usually just poke around on the newbie portion of things but decided to look around some more.....hope ya don't mind:) I don't really know what to say to introduce myself to all of you...new to the site....been studying Wicca for about 5 months now.....raised Catholic.....if you'd like to know anything else....please ask...happy to answer anything ya wanna know!!:p

[Sephiroth]

i can read and write the theban scrypting

[Shy Hawk]

Don't you worry Elaine. We all poke around to most of the sections. You just have a grand old time exploring the site. Merry meet to you.
:) :D :p ;)

[Dria El]

Originally posted by Elaine
I was looking at the Theban Script the other day and found it fascinating! This may seem like a stupid question...so forgive me for my ignorance if it is....but there are letters missing.....the website I was on showed what they use for those missing letters and I was wondering if everyone uses the same thing for those letters or if that person just kind of made something up.......I am interested in learning it and do not want to learn wrong.....any insight would help.....thanks and Blessed Be!

P.S. For those of you who don't know me, I usually just poke around on the newbie portion of things but decided to look around some more.....hope ya don't mind:) I don't really know what to say to introduce myself to all of you...new to the site....been studying Wicca for about 5 months now.....raised Catholic.....if you'd like to know anything else....please ask...happy to answer anything ya wanna know!!:p

In my tradition we do use some of the same ones for more than one letter. You didn't say what ones he substituted so I can't tell you if they're the same.

Welcome to Mystic Wicks!!!

Greetingly,
Dria El

[Armitage]

This thread reminded me of my futile quest to learn Japanese script for writing my my BOS....Should get back to it sometime....:)

[Elaine]

it's funny Shy Hawk...you're the only one in this section I know and the first to welcome me here:) thanks:p

Dria El- I really don't know how to describe it....it was a diagonal line, like this (\) with a little triangle on the top going off to the right....kinda looked like a flagpole leaning over a bit....that's the best way I can think to describe it....and they used the same one for all of the missing letters....kinda like the letter P but if you take the round part of it and stretch it out so it looks like a triangle and then tip it over a little......I hope you see what I'm getting at......I tend to try to be too descriptive sometimes when I talk.....and I babble....I must warn everyone!!! :D :p :rolleyes: (as if you couldn't have figured that out for yourself!!):cool:

[Dria El]

Originally posted by Elaine

Dria El- I really don't know how to describe it....it was a diagonal line, like this (\) with a little triangle on the top going off to the right....kinda looked like a flagpole leaning over a bit....that's the best way I can think to describe it....and they used the same one for all of the missing letters....kinda like the letter P but if you take the round part of it and stretch it out so it looks like a triangle and then tip it over a little......I hope you see what I'm getting at......I tend to try to be too descriptive sometimes when I talk.....and I babble....I must warn everyone!!! :D :p :rolleyes: (as if you couldn't have figured that out for yourself!!):cool:

If I'm getting this right, it sounds like the one we use for 'U', 'V', and 'W'. Those aren't the only letters that share a character though. I've attached a picture of the Theban font I have. The letters that share a character are the same in my tradition. I hope this helps.

Hopefully,
Dria El

[Elaine]

I was talking about the U, V, & W....I think you have the same as that website I was on....that makes me feel good about learning it.....I just didn't want to try to learn it and do it all wrong!! thanks for your help Dria El....you helped a lot!!! I appreciate it!!:D

[Shy Hawk]

Yes, that's what I've seen for U, V, and W as well. I think it's the same, yes.

On another note, I speak and read quite a bit of Japanese (learned it in school). If you need a workbook or notes or tapes of our satalite class let me know. I don't have a lot of any of them, but enough to get you started. Also the web address of sites that can help you.
If you are linguistic at all, Japanese is one of the easier ones. And, quite beautiful aswell. The hardest part is learning Kanji script, which...is like step 3 in the Japanese alphabet problem. Worry about each alphabet separately. Start with Hiragana, then Katakana, then Kanji. (Even if you don't know what I mean, TRUST ME!. lol
Love and Trust,
Shy Hawk :D

[Dria El]

Originally posted by Elaine
I was talking about the U, V, & W....I think you have the same as that website I was on....that makes me feel good about learning it.....I just didn't want to try to learn it and do it all wrong!! thanks for your help Dria El....you helped a lot!!! I appreciate it!!:D

Oh, good! I'm so glad I could help! My mommy says I'm a good helper! :D lol

Helperishly, :D
Dria El

[Dria El]

Can you tell that it's early?

Yawningly <giggle>,
Dria El

[Elaine]

no, I don't really know what you're talking about Shy Hawk....I'm not very linguistic, but have been interested in learning another language for awhile...I don't know if you were exactly talking to me, but I'd be interested in at least some websites to get me started....(I don't want you to go through any trouble considering if I start to learn I probably won't stick with it too long....just cuz I try to learn new languages pretty often actually!! ) :)

With Theban Script, (again this may be a dumb question) is it just for writing or do the letters have actual sounds to speak it....please forgive my ignorance!!

Dria El- I know exactly what you mean about being kinda slap happy when it's early........I work overnights and you can tell in some of my postings when I'm having a rough night!!:p Tonight will be one of those nights I'm sure!!:)

[Shy Hawk]

Well specifically I was talking to Armitage, but Elaine if you tell me what language you are interested in, I'd be glad to send something to ya. One of my biggest hobbies is researching everything that interests me and bookmarking the dozens of related sites, so that when someone asks me about something, I can help direct them. If it's Japanese you're interested in, let me know, at least I speak that...lol If it's something else, let me know, I may have some info laying around. I speak at a conversational level about 7 different languages (needless to say, I have no social life). :D

It's true I must show love and trust
If it's meant to be then blessed be.
Shy Hawk

[Elaine]

I started writing and then said to myself that I didn't think you were talking to me, but I figured why not.....;) sorry......I have been interested in Chinese and Japanese for awhile...and I'm also interested in Czech...(but you can't find ANYONE that speaks Czech...I hear it's difficult, but I find it interesting especially considering I am Czech and my family used to own a castle in Czechoslovakia when my mom was young!)
7 languages is pretty impressive...if you don't mind me asking, what are they? Don't feel bad about your social life....I speak one language and still don't have a social life:p

I like that saying at the end of your post....did you write that or did you find it somewhere...it's beautiful!!
thanks for your help and Blessed Be!!

[Shy Hawk]

Thank you for noticing it! I punctuated it wrong, there are supposed to be pauses and whatnot, but yes I wrote it (as far as I know :D). It should be:

It is true I must (small pause) show love and trust,
If it is meant to be (small pause) then blessed be.

Also, the languages are English, Spanish, French, Arabic, Japanese, Chinese (Mandarin), and Korean. Note: Some of these I know at a VERY conversational level, and some of these I can speak and read moderately well. :p
Shy Hawk:cool:

[Elaine]

even at a conversational level it's impressive!! I can remember very little of my highschool spanish class....I can still say hi, and ask how people are, and ask for the bathroom...but that's about it!!:) (my teacher wasn't very good!)

regardless of how you punctuate it, I think it's beautiful!! I tend to pay attention to detail ....I also tend to give too much detail.....:crazy: I'm glad I noticed it too......:)

[Shy Hawk]

:D Gosh thanks.
Shy Hawk

[Elaine]

:D :p ;) :cool: :sunny: :bigredgri :heartthro

[Vinga]

I must admit I have never heard of Theban script :o, but I do read and write runic Swedish (old Norse). Now mind you I am far from 'conversational level', but I have reference material to consult for grammar etc. It does help that I'm fluent in modern Swedish though ;).

Vinga lit rista runaR þisar :)
(Vinga had these runes carved)

[Apple]

I personally double the little flaggy w symbol and have them touch slightly to tell the difference between U and V. Is there another symbol for J, or does everyone use the same one as I?


(just to jump in on the Japanese conversation... For a change of pace, one year my teacher taught us Katakana first. I actually found that to be very beneficial as you're already able to understand what you read without having to get the definition, as in hiragana... Just a thought, tip... whatever. :D )

[Shy Hawk]

Actually, it's not a bad idea. I know what you mean about the Katakana. It actually makes more sense.
Shy Hawk:D

[Elaine]

you have the little flaggy thingy touch the back of the 2nd one? what do you use for the J? I saw on one website that they use a dot and two dots by the flaggy thingy to tell the difference between U & V....I don't know exactly how though...cuz they didn't picture it they just wrote that that's what they do...anyone else do that or is it just kind of whatever you like personally...??

[Armitage]

Hawk: I was actually planning on learning to speak it first, since people generally learn to speak, then read. And sadly enough I'm not that linguistically gifted. I kick butt with English, but learning another language seems to escape my abilities. I blame it all on the two years of French I took. :P

[Dria El]

I just let the 'I' and 'J' share because I usually don't have to deal with 'J' too much anyways.

I don't worry about changing anything for 'U', 'V', and 'W' cus I'm usually the only one that sees my stuff and so I don't have to explain it to anyone. I know what I was doing. :)

Dria El

[Elaine]

I'll probably just leave the U, V, & W the same then...seems easier....same with the I & J.....thanks for the feedback...now I feel more comfortable going to try to learn it all!!!:D