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Shawn Blackwolf
September 27th, 2007, 06:40 PM
Important : This Thread Is For Class Members Only :
Welcome , my friends , and students...this is your thread for class
discussion , coworking , and sharing of information , that pertains
to the class , chants , exercises , or mgieckal practice , only...........
If you have your books , or have any questions regarding the above ,
you may begin posting , as of today , September 27...Blessings......
Your Teacher , and Co - Student , Shawn Blackwolf...:weirdsmil
Shawn Blackwolf
September 27th, 2007, 07:10 PM
Students Only :
Do any of you have questions , regarding the
Qabalah - Kcebealla threads , I asked you to read ?
Any questions regarding class schedules ?
Isabella SilverRain
September 27th, 2007, 10:19 PM
I have just one question...
How does Qabalah relate to Paganism/Faery Mgieck? I know that Qabalah is a Jewish thing (that is what I have been told by people)....so I'm a little confused about how they are related.
Shawn Blackwolf
September 27th, 2007, 11:07 PM
A very pertinent and astute question ,
my friend , Isabella...
Have you ever heard of the Faery , being
called " Fallen Angels " ?
In our tradition , which is the ancestor to
modern Qabalah , and includes the Runic
Kcebealla , this was the language of the
Angels...
The language of the Word...number , symbol ,
pattern , feeling , that allowed a universe to be
built...an architectually shaped language...
you shall see the olde Obri language , is very
much shaped differently , than modern Hebrew...
It is far older...not from here , yet is here...same
as the olde Runes...all around you...inside you...
the shape of the symbols , make your skeletal
structure , your DNA helix , a tree , a bird , a
house , the number patterns create programs ,
that run the biorythms of you , the earth , that
determine the path of the planets , the change
of seasons...
Ask yourself the question...
How was all this created?
What determines the way everything works ?
Some use faith , to approach the question ;
We have the knowledge of the underlying code...
Now if you know how things fit together , how
the underlying pattern works , would you not
then have the key to work with that pattern , or
rearrange it , using the knowledge ?
If you knew the language this all was written in ,
by speaking it , vibrating it , chanting it , knowing
the true name of things , could you not then affect
matter ?
Could you not then , change yourself ?
Could you not possibly turn on systems , latent in
the body , waiting for activation , by the code they
were written in ?
And once you did that , could you possibly move
energy differently ?
Could you resonate , and align , with these codes ,
these systems , these streams of force , in a more
aware , and attuned way ?
This is the true essence of Qabalah , and Kcebealla...
May I tell you this ?
The mother's and father's columns of runes = 994
There are millions of things that add up to that
number...If you read my qabalah postings , you
remember 994 = Original Sin...
This language is the Apple...the ability to create
your own reality...your own " heaven , or hell "
And that scared some people...they hid it...
It is the birthright...creating your reality...
not living in someone else's...even a god's...
and that is why we were called " Fallen Angels "
The Faery...elemental , human , the many forms...
the gods , with amnesia...it is time to remember...
Language , creates , and controls reality...
You should , and will , hear the language , spoken ,
vibrated , and chanted...
OM , is just one of our many ancient sounds , far
older than Sanskrit..._whistle_
Erick
September 28th, 2007, 02:47 AM
I have a question. For the first week and the second how detail are we going to look at the comparisons?
Shawn Blackwolf
September 28th, 2007, 10:26 AM
I believe what you meant to say was :
"how detailed are we going to look" ,
Erick...lol...
And my answer to that :
"I don't know...how detailed are you all
going to look at the comparisons" ?
Of course , I would appreciate you all
studying as much as you can ;
Now , if you mean , do I expect everyone
to have everything memorized by week
two...lol...please look at the end of Class
Four Schedule , and what I say there...
Yet again , if you mean how detailed ,
am I going to post about the comparisons ,
along with the sheets going up ?
Well , there will be things brought to
students' attention , which I feel will be
important for their study and integration
of the information...
This is a process oriented class...on many
levels...lol...:weirdsmil
I hope that gives you your answer...
Erick
September 28th, 2007, 01:21 PM
Thank you Shawn that makes me feel better.
Isabella SilverRain
October 1st, 2007, 07:06 PM
Thanks for the answer Teacher Blackwolf! That explains a lot, and what you have to say seems so true, and it makes me all the more curious!
Erick
October 2nd, 2007, 03:55 PM
I still have those particular sheets from before. Is it ok that I just double check these with the ones you have for our download? I did download it to just in case there was something different.
Erick
October 2nd, 2007, 04:00 PM
I have a question Shawn. Is the two columns that you talk about the mothers and fathers column or are you talking about the first comparison sheet before that?
Shawn Blackwolf
October 2nd, 2007, 04:02 PM
No problem there Erick...
Make sure your wife Patrice has her own sheets ,
and let her do her own work...no helping , unless
absolutely necessary...however , testing each other ,
is a bonus for you...:weirdsmil
Shawn Blackwolf
October 2nd, 2007, 04:18 PM
Okay , Erick...good question...
However , other students do not know page 7 ,
as the Mother's , and Father's columns , yet...
Well , ahem...now they do...but we will get to
that...later...We shall for now , call them the
double eight columns...those are the ones ,
I would like students to compare , and also
study and contemplate flow , and algorythm
pattern...
The other columns , shall be refered to , as
the double eleven , or , as the Obri - Runic
comparison sheets...:weirdsmil
Erick
October 2nd, 2007, 04:49 PM
Thanks Shawn for clearing that up for me.
~ lowlinora ~
October 2nd, 2007, 11:08 PM
Okay, I have printed the sheets and have begun learning the runes and their pronunciations. I am finding it a bit confusing to learn the other columns? at the same time (Obri and Modern Hebrew) in order to study their comparisons. Could I achieve the correct results by learning one column at a time?
patrice
October 2nd, 2007, 11:24 PM
yes i have had a hard learning experiance at work today but have manage to print my rune sheets.:bad:
Shawn Blackwolf
October 3rd, 2007, 02:57 AM
A clarification for both of you...
And thank you for trying...take your time...
We only want to know the Obri - Runic , for
the class...those two columns...the Hebrew is
there , to show modern relation , including the
numerical correspondences...remember my
request for you to link to the Sepher Sephiroth ?
Do that...you will see the Hebrew letters , with
the numbers , in the same order as on the class
sheet...a few have high and low values...copy
those numbers , neatly on your sheet , next to
the corresponding letter ( Hebrew )...thus , you
shall have four columns now , 22 levels , as there
are 22 symbols , in each row...
Okay...now , I do not expect you to know which
Rune goes with each Obri letter , at this time...
That will come...just note the shapes...similar ?
Different ? In what way ? Just note that...
Okay...now , move onto " cheat sheet " , page two...
This is where I want you to begin concentrating on
the Rune symbols , sounds , and letter values...
Easy way...a rune , two , or three , every day...
Then pages 3, 4 , 5 , 6 , just keep looking them over...
this is NOT a race...it is a process...what I just gave you ,
is MASSIVE...slow down , breathe , enjoy life , no test
( yet ) ...lol...
So , what if you wrote a Rune down...then , see what you
can remember about the rune...number value , letter value ,
any meanings ? Sound ? Go to your sheet...check...study
it again...okay...try again...got more this time ?
Relax...go live life...later...try another rune...
See if you can see the rune , in your mind...gee , do you
hear the sound that goes with it...?
M = An = ummm...Horse...that is right...= Heart...oh ,
look , if I round it out , connect the legs , it makes a heart...
hmmm...interference waves ? what are those ? Oh , Wiki
says , those are waves 180 degrees to each other...Oh , look
An , is made of two wave runes ( two Leguu runes )...hmm...
and they are facing one another...oh , interference waves...
Well , wait a minute...what are interference waves... ???
What do they do ?
Let me look that up...oh , okay...think I got that...
What does that have to do with the heart ?
Holy Sh*t !!! Heartbeat , but wave / water / wait...
An means red mother...Blood !!! Coming and going !!!
Hmmm...well wait...on page seven , the two double
eight columns...An is opposite the rune , called Eck...
Huh , look at that...Eck , can mean charge...Hey !!!
Wait a minute...!? How does the heart beat ???
Well , yeah...small amounts of charge , cause heartbeat...
And wait...An means Red Mother...well , that is a woman
prime , a menstrual woman , maybe a mother...hmmm...
loyal , devoted...Eck , opposite it means faith , trust...hmmm...
Wait a minute...horse , carriage , children , devotion , heart...
Love them , hate them , sometimes...lol...interference waves...
Wait...the mother...doing it all...Rolling Stones wrote a song
called " beast of burden "...lol...okay , need more charge...
long day...
Oh , wait...page 7 , more...
An , and Eck...oh , look...Mother + Lion , because Eck is Leo...
Or...Mother + Oak...
But wait...back to just An...hmm...I heard somewhere , An ,
or Anna , was a name for the queen of the Gypsies...oh , will
you look at that...???!!!
Horse , carriage , transport...An...An - Na ...Anna...Gypsy...
Hmmm...Red Mother , Scarlett Woman...Gypsy Dancer...
Oh...that charges my blood...!!! Wait...Oath , faith , trust...
The blood oath...interference waves...Oh , palm to palm !!!
Wait...An is balance...time for study...time for rest...
Does that help ???
Do only what you can , choose to , and have fun with...
You will get it...Fret not...that is only for a guitar , most
of the time...lol...
Love you all..._whistle_
Aoibheal
October 3rd, 2007, 08:33 AM
I will be trying to do as much as I can, but I have fallen really ill lately and Tim doesn't even really want me straining to be on the internet.
~ lowlinora ~
October 3rd, 2007, 10:36 AM
Thanks for the extra details Shawn. Providing the example makes it easier for me.
Moira Naimh Keane
October 3rd, 2007, 11:40 AM
Morning, Shawn. I also have already printed the sheets for myself and October. I have been reviewing them, and will go over them with her today when she returns from school. :)
Shawn Blackwolf
October 3rd, 2007, 12:34 PM
Aoibheal...
I heard both you , and Rainsong , were not
feeling well...I am sorry to hear that...strength
and health to both of you...try not to stress ;
Lowlinora...My pleasure to assist...One thing...
The runes are not a dead language , in any
sense of the word , as you all shall see...
But to truly learn them , to integrate them ,
you must MAKE them live...dimensionality...
Moira...Thank you for letting me know...This is
one more thing to share with your daughter ,and
that in itself , is wonderful...have fun...
Anyone else ? Questions ?
Rainsong
October 4th, 2007, 06:10 PM
My book arrived today so thats one less worry. I am hoping to really get started studying this weekend. I plan on feeling better!
Shawn Blackwolf
October 4th, 2007, 06:14 PM
That is my hope for you also , Rainsong...
And for Aoibheal...were you able to find
your cartridge ?
Moira Naimh Keane
October 4th, 2007, 08:20 PM
Good evening, fellow students. Shawn asked that I copy this from the sign-up thread to this one.
I am asking ALL students again...
As soon as you have ANY questions , post
them in the discussion thread...I am always
checking , to see if I can help , any of you ,
in any way...I have made myself available
to you , almost around the clock...make good
use of this opportunity...
Okay ???
Fencai
October 6th, 2007, 01:25 PM
after reading, and re-reading your posts in the Qabalah sub forum.. I am a jumble of emotions! (and I do plan to read them all again!!! I will print them out for times when I do not have computer access)
I must admit, all in one shot, it makes sense, and doesnt. For lack of a better term.... it just is!
As i was reading all your connections, and words, and different/lost terms for things, I realized that many many many authors that I LOVED (the ones that were my favorites) used these terms in their books! I am on my way to my father inlaws house to pull out all of those books to re-delve into them to look further into the meanings!!!! (and to stop and get some cards to make flash cards on!)
MORE MORE MORE MORE MORE!!!!!!!!!!
my brain is craving more information! I feel like its on hyper drive after all the reading!
Shawn Blackwolf
October 6th, 2007, 02:48 PM
My Dear Fencai :
There are a few students / friends , who I can
tell , will become shining stars in this tradition ,
due to their desire , and / or thirst and quest...
You , my friend , have just warmed a teacher's
heart and soul...this is what I need and want ,
from my students...observation , perception ,
awareness...and communication...to speak , and
tell me of what they see , or don't see , what is
understood , and what is not...engage me...ask
me...challenge me , respectfully...
And yes...you see it...Kipling ? Carroll ? Tolkien ?
Or others ? Please share with the class...You shall
eventually find the code everywhere...I recommended
a book to Brigid...perhaps she would share some of
what she thought..." The Eight " , by Katherine Neville...
Yet...After all this time...I can not turn around , without
seeing code...remember when Neo , saw the code , and was
able to defeat Smith ? Welcome to the real Matrix..._whistle_
Anyone , everyone...engage your engines...Make it so
Shawn Blackwolf
October 6th, 2007, 04:33 PM
I have a challenge for anyone in the class...
You can use your books , or Sepher Sephiroth ,
found on the link supplied by Moira...
I just gave you the number values of the left
hand column , of the double eight columns...
As Fayoh , has two values , use the lower
number value...80...
Add all numbers in column...then , using
the number values , from the 22 letter - number
Obri - Runic comparison sheet , and the value
of the Aniz rune I posted...all lower values , do
the same with the right hand column...
This is the first part of the challenge...the
sums of the two columns , seperately , then together...
Then , part two...
Look up the numbers 440 , 13 , 440 , and 102...
Who can tell me what saying in Wiecka , I am
asking for...match words with those numbers...
Karma points for whoever gets it...
Shawn Blackwolf
October 6th, 2007, 09:31 PM
You must give number values for left column ,
right column , and both together...
But a hint for the answer...
What did you say , with a blade at your chest ,
to enter the Wietches' Circle ?
Moira Naimh Keane
October 6th, 2007, 09:32 PM
Left column = 391
Right column = 603
Total = 994
440 = GE = Love
13 = AEG = ?
440 = GE = Love
102 = OEB = ?
Struggling with the other two numbers, but going with "Perfect Love, Perfect Trust"
Lady Ailsa, October, and I are all muddling over this together! :)
Shawn Blackwolf
October 6th, 2007, 09:35 PM
Absolutely Correct...!!!
Shawn Blackwolf
October 6th, 2007, 09:40 PM
So , you must tell me who figured it out...Karma !!!
Next...
Add W - I - E - T - C - H -
Then ... B - O - O - K O - F
S - H - A - D - O - W - S
All Runically...add together...
as " Wietch's Book Of Shadows "...
We do not value the "s" in Wietch's...
Moira Naimh Keane
October 6th, 2007, 09:40 PM
Yayyyy!!! :)
Shawn Blackwolf
October 6th, 2007, 09:44 PM
440 = Perfect
13 = Love
440 = Perfect
102 = Trust
( All Obri / Hebrew )
Moira Naimh Keane
October 6th, 2007, 09:44 PM
Well, we all worked on the numbers (only telling you that so you know that we are all understanding the system...for the most part...;)!).
But October got the saying.
Moira Naimh Keane
October 6th, 2007, 09:47 PM
Okay..we were off a bit. But...how did we miss "perfect" for 440, getting "love" instead? And we didn't really see the word "trust" for 102. Were we being too literal in our translations?
Shawn Blackwolf
October 6th, 2007, 09:49 PM
I want you to note 440 = Th - M , in Obri...
Tam...equals word meaning perfect...
Follow the rest...see them ?
Moira Naimh Keane
October 6th, 2007, 09:51 PM
Okay. We will go back and do that. Working on the wietch book of shadows as well!
Shawn Blackwolf
October 6th, 2007, 09:52 PM
102 says...
A white goose
Trust , truth , faith
etc...
Shawn Blackwolf
October 6th, 2007, 09:54 PM
I shall give all three of you karma , for playing...
Moira Naimh Keane
October 6th, 2007, 09:56 PM
We don't find those references. I don't know if we have the Obri list...we don't find any listing for goose...is it possible I missed copying something?
Shawn Blackwolf
October 6th, 2007, 10:14 PM
I know you are going to your party...have fun !!!
But...if you have your book...page 16 , in the back ...
I do not know what page , otherwise , in the Sepher
Sephiroth...remember...we are using two parts of the
Obri / Hebrew book...then the Runes...but this is Obri...
102 = White Goose...
102 = Trust , truth , faith...
etc.
( Moira : Did some checking , for you...
look on page 32 , number 102 , of your
printout..." trust " is there...now , find
number 13 , not page 13...second meaning
listed , is " beloved , love " ( either one )
Now , if you don't have your book yet ,
then we need someone with the book to
play today...Brigid , Isabella , Rainsong ,
Erick...who else ?
There is a front , and back , to the book ;
In the front , 440 = Perfect...
Sorry for confusion...but there is more
we can do just with what you have...
As soon as anyone wants to play...
Moira Naimh Keane
October 7th, 2007, 01:16 PM
Don't have the book as yet, but it is on its way.
Also, we did not have a chance to finish the wietch book-of-shadows last night as we ran out of time. We'll work on that one as well. Weekends are a bit slapdash around here, so there is a chance we will get interrupted, but we will still try...:)
Shawn Blackwolf
October 7th, 2007, 01:53 PM
Ready whenever you are..._whistle_
Annorah
October 7th, 2007, 04:48 PM
If I haven't completely lost the plot or misunderstood the task :) ...
I make "Wietch book-of-shadows" total 993.
Shawn Blackwolf
October 7th, 2007, 04:59 PM
Congratulations , Annorah...!!!
Karma points...great work...:weirdsmil
Shawn Blackwolf
October 7th, 2007, 05:01 PM
Next one :
" One Tradition Of Faery "
Fencai
October 7th, 2007, 09:00 PM
Next one :
" One Tradition Of Faery "
is it 868?
Fencai
October 7th, 2007, 09:26 PM
Teacher Blackwolf-
An observation that I have noticed as I was reading and learning the Obri- when viewing the definitions in numerical order, they seem to take you through a complete lifecycle. That as you read, or maybe 'tis only me, you have vivid images flashing through your mind telling a complete life-cycle story, and once you get back to D'hoarnn, you are starting again, or a rebirth?
Am I stretching in my reading, is my perception off, or is this part of the code?
Erick
October 7th, 2007, 09:33 PM
Is the answer 596.
Shawn Blackwolf
October 7th, 2007, 09:48 PM
Hi , everyone...just got back from store...
Sorry...lol...all day , I'm home , online...
I leave...you two post , I get pm s...
Okay , Fencai , Erick...No to your numbers...
O - N - E = ?
T - R - A - D - I - T - I - O - N = ?
O - F = ?
F - A - E - R - Y = ?
Figure it out that way...post your answers ;
Then add together...Fencai...I will answer
your other question , momentarily..._whistle_
Fencai
October 7th, 2007, 09:54 PM
I tried it another way and came up with 837...
Erick
October 7th, 2007, 09:58 PM
one = 720
tradition = 1002
of = 150
faery = 327
Fencai
October 7th, 2007, 09:58 PM
Hi , everyone...just got back from store...
Sorry...lol...all day , I'm home , online...
I leave...you two post , I get pm s...
Okay , Fencai , Erick...No to your numbers...
O - N - E = ?
T - R - A - D - I - T - I - O - N = ?
O - F = ?
F - A - E - R - Y = ?
Figure it out that way...post your answers ;
Then add together...Fencai...I will answer
your other question , momentarily..._whistle_
or should I say-
O-N-E= 160
T-R-A-D-I-T-I-O-N= 294
O-F= 87
F-A-E-R-Y= 296
tallied up= 837
Shawn Blackwolf
October 7th, 2007, 10:00 PM
Well , 836 , is an important number for us , but no...
Take it step by step , the way I asked...post your
results for the words seperately...
Shawn Blackwolf
October 7th, 2007, 10:02 PM
O - N - E = 160 , correct...
now do tradition...it was incorrect
Fencai
October 7th, 2007, 10:10 PM
Tradition= 567?
in which case
OF= 150
in which case- 1173 would be the total?
(geez louise! I am getting a different number each time!- I need to get a larger calculator tomorrow!)
Shawn Blackwolf
October 7th, 2007, 10:23 PM
One is correct = 160
Of is correct = 150
I want you to take the word tradition , and post , like this...
O = 70
N = 50
E = 40
Do that with tradition...we will see where you are mistaken
By the way...I have a small pocket calculator...
It is the art of focus , and concentration...
Fencai
October 7th, 2007, 10:25 PM
t= 9
R=200
a=1
d=4
i=7
t=9
i=7
o=70
n=50
Shawn Blackwolf
October 7th, 2007, 10:27 PM
very good...and the sum ?
Fencai
October 7th, 2007, 10:29 PM
357...
(see I told you i need a larger calculator with bigger buttons!)
Fencai
October 7th, 2007, 10:30 PM
which in turn give us a total of
963
Shawn Blackwolf
October 7th, 2007, 10:32 PM
Very good...lol...
I had a calculator , when I began this , with
buttons half the size of an eraser...lol...
Now , do Faery...please...
Fencai
October 7th, 2007, 10:35 PM
for Faery-
do we count the a & e separate, or do we count them together?
if Separate-
F-80
A=1
e=40
r=200
y=6
and that total is 327
Shawn Blackwolf
October 7th, 2007, 10:39 PM
And that is correct...a few ways to know...
Add Iron...add Dragon...seperately...post results...
But first , add the whole phrase you just worked on...
post the phrase with result sum...
Fencai
October 7th, 2007, 10:41 PM
One Tradition of Faery-
the sum is: 994
Fencai
October 7th, 2007, 10:44 PM
I=7
R=200
O=70
N=50
total=327
D=4
R=200
A=1
G=3
O=70
N=50
total is 328
Shawn Blackwolf
October 7th, 2007, 10:48 PM
Very Good , One on the Path of Faery...
If numbers have a similar value , they have a
resonance , and relation...even polarized...
And do note , in this thread , things adding
up to 993/ 994 / 995...hmmm...
Think there is something going on...???
Shawn Blackwolf
October 7th, 2007, 10:49 PM
Add Fire...see what I mean...
Fencai
October 7th, 2007, 10:52 PM
sounds to me as though they are climbing towards something big.
as if once you get to 999 then when it should be 1000..... SOMETHING happens....maybe, just maybe, (and this is my brain pondering its last thought for the evening before I go off to bed!) when you get to 1000, it all begins again, and there is the cycle......
Fencai
October 7th, 2007, 10:54 PM
F=80
I=7
R=200
E=50
total is=337
Shawn Blackwolf
October 7th, 2007, 10:58 PM
First...thank you so much for playing...
Yet , it is not JUST playing...
And your patience...very good...Karma Points...
and...999 is good...9999 is better ...9 x 9 x 9 x 9 ...
and 9 is the number of return...
I shall post your other answer for you to awaken to...
Blessings , Fencai...you are a good student , and soul...
Shawn Blackwolf
October 7th, 2007, 10:59 PM
You are off by 10 , with Fire...double check...
Fencai
October 7th, 2007, 11:03 PM
my appologies-
F=80
I=7
R=200
E=40
total is 327
thank you Teacher Blackwolf, for your kindness and gentle helping!
I await your answers in the morning!
Shawn Blackwolf
October 7th, 2007, 11:08 PM
one = 720
tradition = 1002
of = 150
faery = 327
Erick...sorry , missed this...okay...
Yes , "one " , can = 720 , as a higher value
for the letter "E "
Tradition...no...higher value = 1007
Others are correct...Good Work...
Erick
October 7th, 2007, 11:36 PM
Thanks for the for the help Shawn. Will try and talk to you again tomorrow.
Shawn Blackwolf
October 7th, 2007, 11:43 PM
You are welcome , Erick...
please note my edit...it was higher value
for " E " , not " N "...was getting tired , there...
Good dreams...
Shawn Blackwolf
October 8th, 2007, 08:17 AM
Teacher Blackwolf-
An observation that I have noticed as I was reading and learning the Obri- when viewing the definitions in numerical order, they seem to take you through a complete lifecycle. That as you read, or maybe 'tis only me, you have vivid images flashing through your mind telling a complete life-cycle story, and once you get back to D'hoarnn, you are starting again, or a rebirth?
Am I stretching in my reading, is my perception off, or is this part of the code?
I will need your help here , to help you , Fencai...I am not sure
but I believe , you are mixing the word Obri , with Runes...
Obri , is the Old Hebrew , Runes are the other column ;
then , the third column is modern Hebrew...sheet 1...
Are we speaking sheet 1 , or sheet 7 ...?
However , as far as in general , what these symbols do...
You are not stretching things...you are only beginning to
feel the psychological effects of a deep primal awakening ,
which resonates to these symbols , and numbers...these
patterns , (and as we spell it ) , prog'rayms...
Did you note last night , the higher value of Tradition...?
It was 1007...( remember , a +1 , -1 , allowance )
The two columns of eight runes , ( page 7 ) , class one
sheets , = 994...add two " Is " runes , one to the top
of each column...the sum is 1008...which of course , adds
to many , many things...( all numbers are infinite )...
But...1008 / 1007...hmmm...a Primal Tradition ???
And , gee...those two " Is " runes...at the top of two
columns...uh...pillars ?
Wait a minute...pillars...temple...Is + Is...
Isis...The Temple ?
994 =Secret Of The High Priestess
Or :
Temple Pillars Of The Priestess = 994
And , just for fun...1008...lol
1008 = New Order Of The Ages...
Gee...does that sound familiar ?
It is the time to restore the Temple...
Internal , External , and the Marriage...
High value for a word...because of the " N "...
Solomon = 1008...the Wisdom of ? ...
Yet , the lower value...Solomon = 448
A formula...( as we call these phrases )
King Solomon and Queen Sheba's Wedding
Together = 995
Welcome , my friends...and thank you for
bringing up...Ancestral Memory , Fencai...
Welcome to...That which was , is , and what
never shall be...( here , at least...lol... )...
Clarify for me , Fencai...I can answer further...
Other Questions ? Anyone in class ?
( p.s. Hey , Fencai...994 = I am the circle :
Thrice Born Hermes )
Fencai
October 8th, 2007, 08:31 AM
Ahhh.. yes Teacher, you are correct in your thinking!
I was misspoken, I did mean to say Runes, not Obri... (I was up too late all weekend!)
and for which page, right now, its page one, I am still working on the correlations on page 7
Shawn Blackwolf
October 8th, 2007, 08:40 AM
Thank you for your clarification , Fencai...
As for being correct...lol...yeah...I have a few moments ,
here and there...lol...yet , though becoming the God I Am ,
I am still , as we say , Hu - Mann...( To error is...)
So , all of you , may catch Teacher , sometimes...lol...
What did you think of the rest of the post ?
Fencai
October 8th, 2007, 10:45 AM
Teacher Blackwolf-
I am still pondering your words, but dont worry, I will get back to you...
Likewise-
I have come across an interesting article in this month's Wisdom Magazine, that I think may be relevant to our class!
http://wisdom-magazine.com/Article.aspx?articleID=298
Shawn Blackwolf
October 8th, 2007, 12:32 PM
Note to the whole class :
Pay attention to this link , that our very
astute friend , and classmate has posted...
You just want to push the whole class forward ,
don't you , young Jedi...lol...Intelligence Agent...
I am ready to show you something , when you
are ready...just let me know...
Note to the class...talk to , and with one another
on this thread...this is for your interaction , also...
Fencai
October 8th, 2007, 08:28 PM
I have only but a moment this evening Master "Obri" Won Kenobi
but, I am open to your teachings, ready and willing!
(I am still working on putting down my thoughts on your earlier posts as well! Again with the cycle! Hermes and the Emerald Tablets, the thrice born, the incarnation of the Three, I see how this is all fitting together, many forms of Three, 3+3+3=9 and 9 resonates!!!!....)
Shawn Blackwolf
October 8th, 2007, 09:55 PM
Very good pun , my friend...
Perhaps we should wait till the morrow ,
as I am tired from securing winter wood...
and there are some things I need to give to
you and the class , which will take longer...
So...tomorrow , I will be posting more...
And checking on some students who have
not been present this week...Blessings...
shadowmoon23
October 9th, 2007, 12:29 AM
I've just been "playing along" in the past posts, and I'm catching the hang of it (considering I've just got my printer working so the material is in my hands and up to my face!)
I will check in as much as I can tomorrow while I'm at work... thanks to new technology I can see the website relatively well on my Sidekick, it just takes a bit longer since the screen is so much smaller!! I'm excited and ready to see what I can figure out under your wonderful guidance Teacher Blackwolf!
shadowmoon23
October 9th, 2007, 10:58 AM
I was going over all of the statements you put out (one tradition of faery, iron,dragon,fire,wietch's book of shadows) I got all of them right except for wietch's book of shadows, which I got 976 for...
I have wietch=264
Book=162
Of=150
Shadows=400
Could you possibly point me in the right direction?
Erick
October 9th, 2007, 12:14 PM
I think he wanted us to ad each of the letters separately.
w-i-e-t-c-h = 281
Double check me sometimes I get the math wrong.
Fencai
October 9th, 2007, 12:18 PM
I think he wanted us to ad each of the letters separately.
w-i-e-t-c-h = 281
Double check me sometimes I get the math wrong.
I got the same thing. It really does help to list each number separately like that, as I found the other night!
shadowmoon23
October 9th, 2007, 12:39 PM
Thanks so much Erick and Fencai...
I do list the letters seperately on my paper with me, I just shorthanded it since I'm on my phone...
Ive got it now... I had c reported as 3 (from Sepher Sephiroth) instead of 20. When I changed it the answer was 281 for wietch, putting my total sum at 993 instead of 976.
Thanks again!!
Shawn Blackwolf
October 9th, 2007, 12:56 PM
I was going over all of the statements you put out (one tradition of faery, iron,dragon,fire,wietch's book of shadows) I got all of them right except for wietch's book of shadows, which I got 976 for...
I have wietch=264
Book=162
Of=150
Shadows=400
Could you possibly point me in the right direction?
First of all...I am so pleased to see class interaction ,
without me !!!
This is what I actively encourage...even if there are , what
could be called " mistakes " , it is always beneficial...
Please , all of you...more interaction...I will not always be
here , and you all have valuable input...
In this instance though , I believe I know what Shadowmoon
did...and Erick , and Fencai , you are correct...
However , please note , if I am correct , what Shadowmoon
did was value all letters Runically , except the " ch " ,
which she used Obri for...I am not going to say Obri and
Runic are never used in the same word , for that would
be incorrect of me...yet it is rare...
So , the " c " , and " h " , valued Runically , does produce
the value of 281 , for Wietch...
Now...here is something I should like all of you to
consider , and contemplate :
And this is where it begins to be a mindblower...
( If you all only knew...but you will )
Okay...so , don't we have old stories of Faery , and Iron ?
Don't we have the tradition of a Witch's , not Wietch's ,
Book of Shadows ?
How come Wietch's Book Of Shadows , adds up to the same
number as One Tradition Of Faery ?
And that is Modern English translated back into Runic ,
then added in number value ???
( except for Wietch...ancient spelling )
Let alone , didn't we have other formulas , part Obri , and
part Runic , add up to the same number , that made sense ,
and could be seen to relate ?
But , how can that be ???
Wait till tonite : Fencai , myself , and anyone else
who wants to play...will be on around 7pm , by
Pennsylvania time...figure it out for your time zone
Let's play ...:ringaroun
shadowmoon23
October 9th, 2007, 01:09 PM
I will try my hardest to be here because I want to learn, and I want to know!!! If I can't be there at that exact time, depending on what time that is in michigan, ill be there shortly after!!!
Shawn Blackwolf
October 9th, 2007, 01:17 PM
Thank you Shadowmoon...that honors me ,
and the class , as a circle...the more , the
merrier it can become...richness for all...
Did you note you could have used the "ch "
letter - symbol value in Obri , to get the same
result ?
shadowmoon23
October 9th, 2007, 02:06 PM
Yes I did note that. But one thing that I realized that I thought you'd get a good laugh out of was this: I was interchanging obri and runic as if they were the same language... I never consciously thought that they were different until you made mention of what I had done...
Then I was like,well...that would kind of be like putting french and english together, it wouldn't make any sense!!! Lol... except...some letters can be interchanged, and some words and you end up with the same result... by what you said I'm assuming its kind of like the same thing...
Thanks for pointing that out!!!
Shawn Blackwolf
October 9th, 2007, 02:11 PM
This is true...
And that is funny...both ha - ha , and strange...
However...as you shall all see...remember , I did
mention Faery Rules...and they do not live by
our laws...lol...not even the language...lol...
Brigid Rowan
October 9th, 2007, 02:46 PM
I cant usually be around at 7pm EST, as thats dinner and bath time for my little ones, but I'll get on later, and see what I can see...
Shawn Blackwolf
October 9th, 2007, 05:16 PM
That is no problem , Brigid...thank you...
In the pm I sent all of you...I do not care when
any of you post , or engage together , or with me...
But it is by engaging , you gain experience...
And , if students , from wherever in the world ,
let me know when we can engage , I will do my
best to be here...
I am your teacher , in service to you , and those
on the Otherside who have asked me to do this...
Who knows how long any of us are here...
Let us interact whenever is possible...and to
you , Brigid , and everyone else...family ,
including lovers , first...but , when work ,
school , and responsibilities are done...
COME PLAY...you shall learn much ,
by doing so...and this is from your own
teacher's experience , from past students...
And remember one more thing...There
will be much I can , will , and need to
learn , from all of you...Thank you...:ringaroun
shadowmoon23
October 9th, 2007, 05:42 PM
Thank you, Master Blackwolf, for giving so much of yourself to us. I hope that at the end of this class I will have gained a fraction of the knowledge that you have.
Shawn Blackwolf
October 9th, 2007, 06:11 PM
Again , thank you for the honor , Shadowmoon...
I am sure you will do very well...ask Erick , if he
learned anything...lol...even though he is just now
"remembering" again...
Now...I shall be creating a post over the next fifteen
minutes...just got out of shower...then , playtime...talk
among yourselves , anyone who is here...be with you soon
Shawn Blackwolf
October 9th, 2007, 06:39 PM
First part of tonite's game...this formula , is in
part Obri , part Runic...give me the total sum...
See who knows this game...and how they mold
your consciousness...lol...without you knowing...
Charmed : Three Wietches All Bound Together = ?
Runic words : Charmed , Three , Wietches
Obri words : All , Bound , Together
( Erick...saw you were on...you have to help ,
because you have a book )
Number values to check for , in Obri ;
50 , 40 , 43...figure the rest out...
Oh , yes...for wietches...use value of Wietch...
then add an "is / es" rune , with it's value...
have fun...!!!
Shawn Blackwolf
October 9th, 2007, 06:58 PM
Quick note to any without a book...
Sepher Sephiroth only has some Obri words...
PM Erick , for help...he seems to be on...
Confirm that , Erick ?
Fencai
October 9th, 2007, 07:05 PM
why do I not see a value for the letter "G" in Obri Múinteoir Blackwolf?
Shawn Blackwolf
October 9th, 2007, 07:10 PM
Fencai...I think you are doing something ,
not done in Obri...do you have the Sepher
Sephiroth printout ?
Fencai
October 9th, 2007, 07:11 PM
yes, and it was to be page 16 printed out, right?
Erick
October 9th, 2007, 07:14 PM
Sorry Shawn was doing other things. I am on now.
shadowmoon23
October 9th, 2007, 07:16 PM
I'm here and will try but
1) I'm still at work
2) my husband is on a roof trying to paint and we have like 10 minutes to dark, so its already hard to see
3) I don't have a book
I will be giving 125% when I get home though!!!
Shawn Blackwolf
October 9th, 2007, 07:17 PM
No problem Erick...
Fencai...that was only for the comparison...
Before your book arrives , you need the whole thing
for these games...pm Erick...work together...
Shadowmoon...thank you...do what you can...
pm Erick , also...
Fencai
October 9th, 2007, 07:20 PM
Just sent him a message! I got word today that my book was shipped and it will be here by the end of the week! *happy dance!*
Shawn Blackwolf
October 9th, 2007, 07:30 PM
I am very glad...now...for your information...
Obri , is not like the Runic...with English , we
are putting it in Runic...with Obri , they have
words already for things , differently...
Ie : the word for "together" , in Obri , is : Gam ;
as GM ; no " A " value...
Now , in Obri , " M " = 40 , " G " = 3
Means " Together " , and here is something
very funny ha ha strange...
Remember movies from the 40's ?
A man might say to the woman showing her legs :
Nice Gams , Baby...now you tell me...Where did
that come from???
Erick
October 9th, 2007, 07:30 PM
I think fencai has it.
Fencai
October 9th, 2007, 07:31 PM
let's see....
Charmed= 278
Three= 294
Wietches= 288
(and of course with help from the wonderful Erick!)
All= 50
Bound= 40
Together= 43
(to which in the PDF file i see how those were achieved!)
total =
993!!!!!!!!!!
is that correct!?
Fencai
October 9th, 2007, 07:32 PM
LOL!! I do have nice legs, thank you!!
j/k! that's great! I love to know the origins of words, and my friends say that I am a "wealth of usless knowledge!", well, it seems to me that maybe that knowledge isnt so usless!
Erick
October 9th, 2007, 07:34 PM
Only to the mundane.
Fencai
October 9th, 2007, 07:34 PM
and just in case i suddenly drop offline, we are getting a wonderful thunderstorm right now! and power has flickered a couple of times, so if it does go out, I will be back as soon as I am able!
Shawn Blackwolf
October 9th, 2007, 07:37 PM
Well , compliment well placed...
And yes...answer :Correct...Good Work , both of you...
Now...think about that...WHY...really...WHY...would this
modern day TV program , about just that formula...add up
to this same number we keep finding ???
What does that mean ???
Erick
October 9th, 2007, 07:40 PM
They do call it a TV program. I would have to say there is a pretty good reason for that.
Fencai
October 9th, 2007, 07:42 PM
to not forget. to keep the memories alive.... to keep the cycle of three...
three wietches, hermes, birth/life/death, everything seems to come in threes, and in turn back to that number....
(im just writing my thoughts as they come... so they may be a bit disjointed, but hopefully help someone else too!)
Erick
October 9th, 2007, 07:45 PM
I would have to say that I did not think of that.
Shawn Blackwolf
October 9th, 2007, 07:48 PM
Okay...here we go...Erick , you know how crazy
this gets...Fencai , you are just about to learn...
In the code , look at the Rune " yar "...letter
value " G "...using 3 , as the value , for both ,
and reversing the sound yar...
give me the value of : P - R - O - G'ray - M
Fencai
October 9th, 2007, 07:49 PM
as I didnt think of "TV program"! that's great though, because it goes back to what Teacher Blackwolf said about the pro'graym
Erick
October 9th, 2007, 07:51 PM
I got it 361.
Fencai
October 9th, 2007, 07:51 PM
*SQUEAL!* that's wonderful!!!!
Good thinking Erick!
Fencai
October 9th, 2007, 07:53 PM
i got 361 as well
Erick
October 9th, 2007, 07:54 PM
Believe it or not I did that off the top of my head. With out us my cheat sheet.
Shawn Blackwolf
October 9th, 2007, 07:55 PM
Once you have done that successfully , here is your
full formula :
TV Prog'raym : to guide ( obri ) your ( obri )
mind ( obri ) into ( obri ) their ( obri ) system ( runic )
Obri numbers to check , in order :
85 , 83 , 32 , 190 , 45 ...
Figure out the runes...add sum...
Erick
October 9th, 2007, 08:00 PM
TV =15
system = 183
full formula
TV prograym: guide your mind into their system = 994
Erick
October 9th, 2007, 08:01 PM
Any one else see a web yet?
Fencai
October 9th, 2007, 08:03 PM
woa!!!!!!! and we are back to where we were two nights ago!!!!
They are all intertwined!!!!
(a web, I like that!)
Erick
October 9th, 2007, 08:04 PM
Are you sure your a beginner?
Brigid Rowan
October 9th, 2007, 08:04 PM
Evening all...Im reading fast and playing catch-up..we are discussing television as mind control? Or no?
Fencai
October 9th, 2007, 08:06 PM
LOL! Apparently there is a calling from deep within me that is re-awakening, and it is bursting to come out!
each word, each phrase brings with it these vivid images in my mind, that even though they are not, shall we say "current" images, I know that they are my memories...
and this all makes sense to me!
(much like the first time I saw the Matrix, during world philosophies class in college... I got an A on that paper!)
Erick
October 9th, 2007, 08:06 PM
Sort of. We are learning how it is on connected.
Erick
October 9th, 2007, 08:07 PM
I'm not sure if I am spelling this right. Shawn is that part of the akashic records?
Shawn Blackwolf
October 9th, 2007, 08:07 PM
Hey , it's Brigid !!!
Okay...one more on TV...then something Fencai
brought up before...
This isn't about any one thing...it is about the code
( Erick ...English : Akashic : runically :
Eck - Ash - Eck )
Give me a momrent for formula
Brigid Rowan
October 9th, 2007, 08:10 PM
Hallo Shawn!
Forgive my idiocy, but as Im just joining, what are we using tonight for referance...the Book? Or the sheets you gave us? Or other stuff?
Fencai
October 9th, 2007, 08:12 PM
hallo Brigid!
We are using a combination of the book, the sheets and each other this evening!
Shawn Blackwolf
October 9th, 2007, 08:16 PM
Okay...let's say that was a fluke...maybe we are
just imagining things...nah , this can't be real...
That is too crazy !!! Well...let's see...
Formula :
TV Prog'raym : I am ( Obri ) seeing ( Obri )
( an : not valued , implied ) electron ( Runic )
stream ( Obri )
Obri numbers , in order : 21 , 26 , 113...
Go...!!!
Shawn Blackwolf
October 9th, 2007, 08:18 PM
Fencai is right , Brigid...Stone Soup time...
Erick
October 9th, 2007, 08:19 PM
Okay I got 459 for electron. Any one else get something different?
Fencai
October 9th, 2007, 08:21 PM
that's exactly what I got
Fencai
October 9th, 2007, 08:24 PM
so then the total of
TV Prog'raym : I am ( Obri ) seeing ( Obri )
( an : not valued , implied ) electron ( Runic )
stream ( Obri )
is 995?
Shawn Blackwolf
October 9th, 2007, 08:27 PM
Correct...now what do you think ?
Brigid Rowan
October 9th, 2007, 08:27 PM
electron...ok, tell me if Im doing this correctly..
e=40
l=30
e=40
c=20
t=9
r=200
0=70
n=50
I see where you are getting all but the e's...In the Sepher, it listed e as beside H, and = to 5?
Shawn Blackwolf
October 9th, 2007, 08:31 PM
That is because if you check our Runic
cheat sheet , you will see " E " in runes ,
is the rune " An " , value 40...
There are differences , and similarities ,
in the two systems...
Erick
October 9th, 2007, 08:31 PM
Yep that is how I got it.
Fencai
October 9th, 2007, 08:32 PM
so with 995, and the re-occuring numbers, we are back to the resonance, and rememberance of ancestral memories, correct?
Brigid Rowan
October 9th, 2007, 08:33 PM
So....ok...I see now.
Shawn Blackwolf
October 9th, 2007, 08:36 PM
Okay...let's follow this thread of consciousness...
...lol...
Add Electron + Stream : Electron Stream = ?
Now , add the word : Consciousness
Do not add them together...just look at
the result...
Shawn Blackwolf
October 9th, 2007, 08:40 PM
so with 995, and the re-occuring numbers, we are back to the resonance, and rememberance of ancestral memories, correct?
Yes , and no...not just Ancestral Memory...
present , and future , too...there is no time ,
in the realm of Faery...here , there are five
strands , twisted into one...
Fencai
October 9th, 2007, 08:42 PM
Okay...let's follow this thread of consciousness...
...lol...
Add Electron + Stream : Electron Stream = ?
Now , add the word : Consciousness
Do not add them together...just look at
the result...
Electron Stream= 572
Consciousness= 573
Shawn Blackwolf
October 9th, 2007, 08:46 PM
Think about that...really...
Now , go to your " meaning sheets " of runes ;
find Eck Rune ...value = 1...does it mean " charge " ?
So a Charged Electron Stream , would equal = ?
Fencai
October 9th, 2007, 08:47 PM
it would be 573! same as consciousness!
Fencai
October 9th, 2007, 08:48 PM
that of which surrounds you
Shawn Blackwolf
October 9th, 2007, 08:50 PM
Yeah...now some of you may understand ,
why I laugh my ass off sometimes...
Next Formula...talk for a minute...
Hello , Aranarose...
Brigid Rowan
October 9th, 2007, 08:52 PM
Hey, Fencai...can you do me a favor, and post your equation for stream? Forgive my cludginess, I just want to double check my work against someones..
Fencai
October 9th, 2007, 08:59 PM
Hey, Fencai...can you do me a favor, and post your equation for stream? Forgive my cludginess, I just want to double check my work against someones..
well, I think what you are doing, is the same thing I was doing earlier this evening...LOL
for the words in Obri- dont add each letter separately, those are calculated as whole words.
So, in the code that Teacher Blackwolf gave us, he said to look up a list of Obri numbers, if you go to the Sephyr and look past page 16, you will see lists of words with numbers beside them. Those are the Obri values.
If you look up 113, you will find stream there.
does this help?
Shawn Blackwolf
October 9th, 2007, 09:00 PM
Okay...Fencai posted a link , regarding Dna ,
and fractals...Brigid had asked me about fractals
a week or so ago...I sent her some equations...
While I am typing up the formulas , I want you
all to add the 22 column...just use low number values...
It won't matter Runic or Obri...same numbers here...
Fencai
October 9th, 2007, 09:05 PM
1358?
Brigid Rowan
October 9th, 2007, 09:06 PM
Yes, I see now the 113=stream..lol..I -did- add it all up, as I had done other words, but..ok..how do you know what ones to add letter by letter, and which ones do you use a word # for? And...urg...Im sorry to distract Shawn, I can pm you questions if you'd rather...
Fencai
October 9th, 2007, 09:08 PM
in Teacher Blackwolf's formulas he writes (obri) or (runic) next to each word, this way you know!
Shawn Blackwolf
October 9th, 2007, 09:11 PM
Faery Rules !!!
Now...I have told you , everything is connected ;
and there is no time , in Faery...So , would they
not know the atomic table...and anyone who could
access that realm , from stone age on , or before ,
have access to that information ?
What if some atomic table abbreviations are used
in words there...lol...it is only by doing this for
awhile , using the same values , again and again ,
you see the validity , crazy as it seems...So...
Formula :
Two fract ( al ) geometry number l ( an ) guages = ?
Use the rune " An " value , as "Al " , for aluminum
and use same value for " an " , in language...lol...!!!
Brigid Rowan
October 9th, 2007, 09:15 PM
Hmmm...the Eight lives, and Newlands would be proud, eh? I assume you are hinting at The Octave Law?
"in chemistry (http://www.britannica.com/eb/article-9056732#)the generalization made by the English chemist J.A.R. Newlands in 1865 that, if the chemical elements are arranged according to increasing atomic weight, those with similar physical and chemical properties occur after each interval of seven elements. Newlands was one of the first to detect a periodic pattern in the properties of the elements "
Shawn Blackwolf
October 9th, 2007, 09:15 PM
No problem , Brigid...you are getting answers ,
and this is what I want...class interaction...
Good Work , Fencai...
Brigid...you see what I JUST posted...
This SEEMS like CHAOS , at first...order
will pop out , through time...patience ,
my sweet friend...
Shawn Blackwolf
October 9th, 2007, 09:17 PM
And with Cords , and Chords , and Cards , I play...
Shawn Blackwolf
October 9th, 2007, 09:18 PM
Who has the Answer ???
Brigid Rowan
October 9th, 2007, 09:22 PM
Do, Re, Mi, Fa...
I -really- am glad I read The Eight now. I rather have a feeling I'll be re-reading it. And yeah...I feel in a bit of chaos, but it is seeming to kinda have a pattern I just cant quite get yet, but I can 'feel' it there, this pawn is trying...
Shawn Blackwolf
October 9th, 2007, 09:25 PM
And did you NOTE..." So " is the sound at the top
of the left hand column...lol..." Fay " at bottom...
What is the sum of the 22 symbols ?
What is the sum of the formula ?
Erick
October 9th, 2007, 09:28 PM
The sum is 1495.
Shawn Blackwolf
October 9th, 2007, 09:30 PM
Correct...Now...the formula , please...
Brigid Rowan
October 9th, 2007, 09:30 PM
1495?
Shawn Blackwolf
October 9th, 2007, 09:34 PM
Very Good , also , Brigid...
Doing these for yourself , is always good...
Did we lose Fencai ?
Fencai
October 9th, 2007, 09:34 PM
yup... trying to figure out where I goof'd my numbers...
LOL
Shawn Blackwolf
October 9th, 2007, 09:36 PM
Hey...all of you are doing great...!
Fencai
October 9th, 2007, 09:37 PM
LOL Im with it now! (I think tiredness is starting to set in!) 1495 here as well!
Brigid Rowan
October 9th, 2007, 09:40 PM
Ok..lol...has anyone got this added up...lol..Im thinking Im wayyy off...
Erick
October 9th, 2007, 09:40 PM
I got the column but could not figure out what formula.
Shawn Blackwolf
October 9th, 2007, 09:41 PM
Very good...can you hang in for the formula
I posted about your link with fractals...and
one last one after that ?
shadowmoon23
October 9th, 2007, 09:41 PM
Sorry to butt in just wanted to let you know that I am still present... I didn't realize that we had to drive my father-in-law home before we got to go home so an hour long drive turned into 3... so I'm still stuck in my truck...
Can't wait to get home and start working it out for myself!!!!!
Hope your all still playing when I get home!!!! I still have like 45 mins though.... darn
Good job though everybody!!!!
Shawn Blackwolf
October 9th, 2007, 09:45 PM
Erick...back a page...post # 158 ?
Where it says " Faery Rules !!! "
Shadowmoon...I will be around...We can play...
Fencai
October 9th, 2007, 09:45 PM
this is how I did the formula
t=9
w=200
o=279
total= 279
F=80
r=200
a=1
c=20
t=9
(al)= 40 (if i read your meaning correctly Teacher Blackwolf)
total= 350
n=50
u=6
m=8
b=2
e=40
r=200
total= 306
g=3
e=40
o=70
m=8
e= 40
t=9
r=200
y=6
total=376
l=30
(an)=40
g=3
u=6
a=1
g=3
e=40
total 123
total= 1434
Shawn Blackwolf
October 9th, 2007, 09:46 PM
Brigid...are you using lower values , for " An " ?
Ie : 40 , not 600 ?
Fencai
October 9th, 2007, 09:47 PM
Im holding on the edge of my seat Teacher Blackwolf! dont you worry!
Shawn Blackwolf
October 9th, 2007, 09:51 PM
Fencai :Excellent !!!
Except for one thing...I believe the original
formula said languages , plural...please add an " S "
Fencai
October 9th, 2007, 09:53 PM
t=9
w=200
o=279
total= 279
F=80
r=200
a=1
c=20
t=9
(al)= 40 (if i read your meaning correctly Teacher Blackwolf)
total= 350
n=50
u=6
m=8
b=2
e=40
r=200
total= 306
g=3
e=40
o=70
m=8
e= 40
t=9
r=200
y=6
total=376
l=30
(an)=40
g=3
u=6
a=1
g=3
e=40
s=60
total 183
total= 1494
Brigid Rowan
October 9th, 2007, 09:56 PM
I used lower values, yes...1494.
Shawn Blackwolf
October 9th, 2007, 09:57 PM
Very Good...now , I want you , and everyone else
to ponder this while I am posting the last formula for
now...
Here we have two comparison languages , which both
add to 1495...
and 1495 = Two Fractal Geometry Number Languages ???
Shawn Blackwolf
October 9th, 2007, 09:59 PM
Okay , posting Formula...
Brigid , did you see how Fencai posted the formula ?
Erick
October 9th, 2007, 10:00 PM
So the two languages are need to make a whole.
Fencai
October 9th, 2007, 10:01 PM
in a word, symbiotic....
they are both there, together, all together around us.....
Shawn Blackwolf
October 9th, 2007, 10:04 PM
Kcebealla : Runic Chaos Fractal Language = ?
Use : Eck value , for Kce ...the rune value...
Use : same value for " be " as abbr. for Beryllium...
Use : Al , and La , as aluminum / An rune value...
Go ...!!!
Shawn Blackwolf
October 9th, 2007, 10:08 PM
By the way , Fencai...
Clothing Designer + Respect , or Control = 995
Fencai
October 9th, 2007, 10:11 PM
(kce)=1
(be)=1
(al)=40
(la)=40
total=82
r=200
u=6
n=50
i=7
c=20
total= 283
c=20
h=5
a=1
o=70
s=60
total= 156
f=80
r=200
a=1
c=20
t=9
(al)=40
total= 350
l=30
(an)=40
g=3
u=6
a=1
g=3
e=40
total
123
grand total- 994!!!!!!!!!!!!!
:spinnysmi
Erick
October 9th, 2007, 10:12 PM
Okay I got it.
Kcebealla = 82
Runic = 283
chaos = 156
fractal = 350
language = 123
total 994
Fencai
October 9th, 2007, 10:13 PM
By the way , Fencai...
Clothing Designer + Respect , or Control = 995
WOW!!!!!
Tomorrow, I will share my story from today about the fractal article at work! *happy dance!* It is a wonderful thing!!!! But, since I am tired, I will hare it with you tomorrow! LOL..
Shawn Blackwolf
October 9th, 2007, 10:18 PM
Very Good , my friends...Fencai...
I am proud of you...thank you...
Erick...you are getting back in form...
Brigid...you are doing very well...and I
know you have a lot on your plate...
Shadowmoon...I will be awaiting your
post...
Blessings , everyone...
Fencai
October 9th, 2007, 10:22 PM
thank you Teacher Blackwolf!
Bright Blessings and wonderful dreams everyone!
by-the-by I usually take lunch around 12:30pm Eastern time (Im in PA!) until 1:00pm if anyone cares to chat for a bit!
Until the 'Mo:ringaroun rrow!
Shawn Blackwolf
October 9th, 2007, 10:29 PM
Any other students want to play ?
Erick
October 9th, 2007, 10:30 PM
I will hang in there a bit longer.
Shawn Blackwolf
October 9th, 2007, 10:37 PM
Well , Erick...
Our co - student , October , Moira's daughter ,
is busy tonight , working on something , that
deals with a famous bard...shall we do one for
her , out of courtesy ?
Posting...Now...
Erick
October 9th, 2007, 10:38 PM
Yeah anyone I've met.
Shawn Blackwolf
October 9th, 2007, 10:41 PM
Formula :
I am watching a William Shakespeare play = ?
I am ( Obri )
watching ( Obri )
Obri numbers : 21 , 26...
( and , no , I don't think you have met him...
unless you time travel , and never told me )
shadowmoon23
October 9th, 2007, 10:45 PM
Ok... so i thought that i was never, ever going to make it home!
I literally just ran in the door... so i've got a couple of things i've got to do really quick (take care of my animals and the like!)
I will be back momentarily!!:spinnysmi
Erick
October 9th, 2007, 10:51 PM
Glad you made safely home.
Okay are we using a separate es and ea in shakespeare?
Shawn Blackwolf
October 9th, 2007, 10:52 PM
Great to see you , Shadowmoon...lol...
A little excited now , are we ???
Praetorian
October 9th, 2007, 10:53 PM
Greetings & well met all,
Elder Blackwolf may I copy and print this thread as it will take me some time to catch up here?
LOL reading this thread has affected me like going from a damp basement into a fresh morning rain, >S< Thank you!!
Shawn Blackwolf
October 9th, 2007, 10:53 PM
Yes...
Erick
October 9th, 2007, 10:54 PM
Yes to who?
Shawn Blackwolf
October 9th, 2007, 10:59 PM
Sorry , didn't realize Praetorian was posting...
...LOL...Yes , to both of you...
Great to see you Praetorian...hang in there...
Erick
October 9th, 2007, 11:00 PM
Okay I got it.
the total is 995.
Praetorian
October 9th, 2007, 11:04 PM
Great to see you Praetorian...hang in there...
Rgr That, Hanging in there.
:-))
Shawn Blackwolf
October 9th, 2007, 11:05 PM
Very Good , Erick...but for the class...
Would you mind posting it , as :
I am =
Watching =
etc...?
Shawn Blackwolf
October 9th, 2007, 11:07 PM
If you will be here for awhile , Praetorian ,
let me see if I can find my Marduk formula ...
shadowmoon23
October 9th, 2007, 11:13 PM
yes i am extremely excited...
unfortunately i am quickly falling into oblivion due to exhaustion...
(still ill, and working, up at 4 or 5 and not getting home til 11 doesn't really help one get better, does it?... exhaustion comes easily these days)
if i didn't have to be up at 4 I would be more than willing to try and muster up enough brain power to try and play... i've been waiting for this all day!!!!
I'm going to try and see if i can figure some of these formulas on paper... if i cannot then i am afraid to say it is a lost cause... for tonight anyway
please, bear with me!
shadowmoon23
October 9th, 2007, 11:15 PM
byt the way, Praetorian, it is very good to see you!!! I'm sorry that you had to drop the class, you'll be missed!
sorry if i'm overstepping my boundaries!
Shawn Blackwolf
October 9th, 2007, 11:20 PM
My dear Shadowmoon...take care of yourself...
There shall be time...that is what we have as a gift here...
Time...
Just post anytime...I shall be looking for my students ,
and all my friends...you are , for this time , and in this
cyberplace , my gift , and my responsibility , as a teacher ;
That is the way of things...:weirdsmil
Erick
October 9th, 2007, 11:26 PM
Sorry about the post. Have kids needed to get them to bed.
I am = 21
watching = 26
william = 283
shakespeare = 547
play = 118
total = 995
Praetorian
October 9th, 2007, 11:28 PM
Elder Blackwolf, yes I will be here for a while.
Shadowmoon, Sister, you have in no way overstepped. Thank you for your greeting. I am endeavoring to "Hang in there" However my time for class has been greatly reduced so I will be doing a lot of homework and not on as often as I had planed. But rest assured I will not be far away.
Erick
October 9th, 2007, 11:29 PM
Okay Shawn that was the last one for me. I have company now and it is very distracting.
Shawn Blackwolf
October 9th, 2007, 11:33 PM
Family First...
Please note...if we had two left hand double eight
columns , we would have two " F " letter values ,
at the bottom...
FF = Family First , Founding Fathers , Forever Forests...
Two right hand columns : two " M " letter values...
MM = Medical Marijuana , Mary Magdelene , Marilyn Manson
And , no , I am not kidding...if you only knew what I know ,
already , about the code...lol..._whistle_
Shawn Blackwolf
October 9th, 2007, 11:36 PM
Okay Praetorian...think you got the idea of
how this basically works ?
Got your Sepher Sephiroth sheets ?
Praetorian
October 9th, 2007, 11:41 PM
Not before me, I am not at my house, I apologize for the confusion, However post away and when I get home I will do the cipher.
shadowmoon23
October 9th, 2007, 11:54 PM
As much as I hate this, and despite the fact that I KNOW that i'm going to go to bed and not be able to fall asleep, thanks to this class (good thing), I'm reading this, and I'm seeing that the number 995 keeps showing up, and 994, and other's around that (1495 I think it was, or around there, I don't have anything writen (written??? can't spell anymore....haha, i have no clue which one is right!!) down yet) I really can't go beyond that... i keep having flashes in my head of random things that fit together, and circles, and I'll have a thought one second and think i've caught wind of something, but then the next second it's whiped right past me... could games be being played with my head?
um... i'm sure i'm going to go and lay down in bed, and i'll get up a few times to come and check this and see what else everyone besides myself has come up with, and then be mad because I'm not doing it myself (i'm sure i'll be doing quite a bit of it in the morning on the ride to work since there will be light and i'll be able to see, and on my lunch break... and probably a few things every time i can break away...)
I hope that i'm not appearing to be disrespectful with my mindless ramblings because i'm certainly not trying for that, it is just that I'm addicted and even though i really am having very small, short bursts of coherant thought, I can't manage to break myself away! If i'm stepping on your toes, Master Blackwolf, please feel free to tell me to shut it until tomorrow... no offense will be taken what so ever
Shawn Blackwolf
October 10th, 2007, 12:00 AM
Okay..in that case , here we go...
First , take the column of 22 runes...fold it in half...
You now have 11 : 11 sequence...compute the number
value of the top two symbols , which will be Dhoarnn ,
and Gifuu...
Now...formula 1 :
Add: Black Dragon = ?
Next : Black Dragon Goddess Theeamth
( use one " s " , in Goddess , and one " es " )
( use " Th " , as Dhoarnn letter value , with number
value , " e " , as " An " , " ea " as " Aerr " , then " m "
as " Mann " , then " th " , as " Dhoarnn " again ,
for " Theeamth "...do note , those first three , are
maiden , mother , and crone runes...)
Just come back with those three values ...
I shall assist you further...however...
Now add :
Theeamth and Marduk Prog'raym = ?
( use " an " , and " dea " to create the word " and " ;
use prog'raym as the value found in the thread )
( for everyone...looking at the meanings of " an " ,
and " dea " , contemplate the word " and " , as
depolarized , or breakthrough movement ...)
Shawn Blackwolf
October 10th, 2007, 12:03 AM
My sweet Shadowmoon...
...ROTFLMAO...
Good dreams...see you tomorrow...
We are just beginning to play...lol...
~ lowlinora ~
October 10th, 2007, 12:27 AM
Okay Shawn. I started on page 4 and worked my way up to page 23. I worked out the answers for the formulas(formulae?) you gave and managed to get the right answers.
A big thank you to Fencai for explaining that the whole word is used for finding the Obri values...I was confused on that one.
Now that I am caught up I will be able to actively participate.
I found everyone's input to be extremely helpful. Thanks to everyone!
Shawn Blackwolf
October 10th, 2007, 12:30 AM
Good to see you , Lowlinora !!!
So...ready to play ?
shadowmoon23
October 10th, 2007, 12:42 AM
I'm glad I could get a laugh out of you... and it would appear that you are all alone. I really wish that my brain would work... I read the other posts since I've been gone and I realized that I really, really couldn't do that right now....
But... I'm here anyway, just like i said i would be!!
I lay in bed and wonder... about a million things all at once... so many things that it's almost like nothing at all... is that possible?
Shawn Blackwolf
October 10th, 2007, 01:10 AM
Oh , Shadowmoon...lol...get some sleep...
I know how you feel...this happened to me ,
when I first got the code...lol...so much
Everything , and nothing...yeah...
Inner and outer...rational and intuitive...
beginning and end...part and whole...
It will all...become...and yet...it always was..._whistle_
Praetorian
October 10th, 2007, 01:28 AM
OK stupid question of the night, where are you all getting the number value for the alphabetic letters? I have my book as well as the master Blackwolfs 7 pages.
But I have yet to find the page or pages that give a numeric value for the alphabet. Page number would be very helpfull.
Thank you
>S<
Shawn Blackwolf
October 10th, 2007, 02:41 AM
Think you just missed that , Praetorian...lol...
A few times...it was in Class Schedule , the first time...
But , in your book...turn to the very back...now ,
slowly flip toward the front , looking at the page numbers
until you come to page one...there are different sections
to the book...two numberings of the sections...across from
page one IN THE BACK...are the 22 Modern Hebrew
letters...get out your sheet 1...number , going down ,
same as in the book , next to the Hebrew on your sheet...
The number values may then be seen horizontally , to
be the same , for all three symbol columns...
Ie : first row , horizontal , whether Obri , Runic , or
Modern Hebrew , is valued as 1...so on...that help ?
( just so you know...your formulas are all Runic )
Fencai
October 10th, 2007, 08:56 AM
because, as I said, I wouldnt sleep and was up early.....
hopefully I got all my numbers right!
someone check me! _pounce_
Black=73
dragon=328
goddess=148
Theeamth= 350
total: 899
Theeamth= 350
and= 44
Marduk=237
Prog'raym= 361
total= 755
Total= 992
~ lowlinora ~
October 10th, 2007, 10:23 AM
Good to see you , Lowlinora !!!
So...ready to play ?
I apologise Shawn. I should have mentioned that I was heading off to bed when I posted. After the three and a half hours it took me to catch up....well, I was exhausted! :braindrai
I hope to play tonight. :chatty:
Moira Naimh Keane
October 10th, 2007, 12:20 PM
I have informed everyone in my household - except October - that tonight is mine! She and I will be spending it right here so we can participate with you all. I do believe our friend, Lady Ailsa, will be available as well, but I haven't spoken to her so have not as yet confirmed.
So sorry, Shawn, I did intend to play last night but we'll be all yours tonight!
Shawn Blackwolf
October 10th, 2007, 12:29 PM
Goood Mooorrrnnning , Faeryland !!!
( in honor of Robin Williams )
Lowlinora...no problem...looking forward...
Fencai...lol...yeah...I told you all to get ready for a
wild ride...ummm...I wasn't kidding...lol..._whistle_
Check your value for " Marduk "...
Then , your mission today , should you choose to
accept it...( nothing impossible )...look up the story
of Tiamaat , and Marduk...from at least three sources...
That is for everyone , after they check these numbers
on their own...important story...aren't they all ?
I mean...at the end of every story , isn't there a Faery Tail...?
( an attachment of one form , or another ? )
( So , Fencai , would you post links to those three Faery Tails ? )
Shawn Blackwolf
October 10th, 2007, 12:35 PM
Well...Good Morning , Mi 'Lladia Moira :
And the same to Mi 'Lladia October...hope she likes
the bard equation...so , the Game Is Afoot tonite...
Sounds good to me...:ringaroun ...lol...
any one see...in one day , almost 1,000 views of
this thread ??? ...lol..._whistle_
Fencai
October 10th, 2007, 12:36 PM
of course!
As soon as I have links I will post..
and as for
Marduk= 239
I couldnt read my own handwritting! I mistook my 6 for a 4! LOL
so the new total is: 994!
Fencai
October 10th, 2007, 12:45 PM
for Tiamaat (which I had a hard time finding that way, and had to use Tiamat)
1. http://faculty.gvsu.edu/websterm/Enuma_Elish.html
2. http://cognitial.com/stories/awarriors.htm (this seems to be the full version of the story
3. http://www.gly.uga.edu/railsback/CS/CSMarduk.html
shadowmoon23
October 10th, 2007, 12:51 PM
I'm back after my mindlessness of last night....
I was going over what I could on the bumpy ride to work this morning and I got charmed:three wietches all bound together totaled at 993.... but for the life of me I cannot get the right number for prog'raym... I keep coming up with 568 and I know that's not right... any help?
I know I've got a long way to go before I'm caught up for tonight... but its kinda hard to write in the truck... ill be doing more through out the day...
As for tonight I'm going to try like mad to be able to be here and actively participate!!!!
............and then another sleepless night.....
Shawn Blackwolf
October 10th, 2007, 01:05 PM
I'm back after my mindlessness of last night....
I was going over what I could on the bumpy ride to work this morning and I got charmed:three wietches all bound together totaled at 993.... but for the life of me I cannot get the right number for prog'raym... I keep coming up with 568 and I know that's not right... any help?
I know I've got a long way to go before I'm caught up for tonight... but its kinda hard to write in the truck... ill be doing more through out the day...
As for tonight I'm going to try like mad to be able to be here and actively participate!!!!
............and then another sleepless night.....
Read post # 116 : that should help...Faery Rules...lol...
And here comes the whip : Do Not prog'raym yourself ,
not to get sleep...I shall have none of that in this class...
You are the Metaprog'raymmer of your reality...careful...
( Ie : full of care...)
Erick
October 10th, 2007, 01:15 PM
Good morning everyone. Are we still working on the last formula?
Shawn Blackwolf
October 10th, 2007, 01:28 PM
Good Morning , Erick...
Please read post 231...follow Fencai 's link...
a few posts later...we will be talking about
this story...part of His Story...not Her's...
shadowmoon23
October 10th, 2007, 01:31 PM
Read post # 116 : that should help...Faery Rules...lol...
And here comes the whip : Do Not prog'raym yourself ,
not to get sleep...I shall have none of that in this class...
You are the Metaprog'raymmer of your reality...careful...
( Ie : full of care...)
I will check that post....... and try to mind the faeries.....
as for sleep.... I got enough of it to function.... although no dreams, I never dream anymore......kind of on the side of frightening..... I used to rely on them.........
I appreciate the concern, dearest Blackwolf, and it is felt warmly, although your point has been made.
I will post if I need anymore help. Everyone has been more than willing to lend a helping hand, its quite refreshing compared to the people you meet in passing....
Shawn Blackwolf
October 10th, 2007, 01:42 PM
I am glad you heard me warmly , and firmly ,
Shadowmoon...it was meant that way...and
the whip reminder was not just for you , yet
for all students in this class ...I try to be
the best teacher I can be ...thus , I shall care
for my students , and my friends , as you
hopefully shall become , more and more...
I am not going to stand by , and watch my
friends prog'raym themselves in a way which
is detrimental to their health , while you are
learning how to metaprog'raym yourselves ,
with symbols , language , chants , and retual...
I hope everyone hears this , loud and clear ;
Prog'raym , and imprint , as you choose , and
will , to be...for the betterment of us all...:ringaroun
And always ask for help , when you need it...
Erick
October 10th, 2007, 01:43 PM
Shawn Nudimmud a word that we can relate to Aerr?
Shawn Blackwolf
October 10th, 2007, 01:49 PM
for Tiamaat (which I had a hard time finding that way, and had to use Tiamat)
1. http://faculty.gvsu.edu/websterm/Enuma_Elish.html
2. http://cognitial.com/stories/awarriors.htm (this seems to be the full version of the story
3. http://www.gly.uga.edu/railsback/CS/CSMarduk.html
Thank you , oh Swift Winged One...
I have seen different spellings of her name , in
various places...there is always a reason for that...lol...
Oh , and the first one , is what I would say is the
important link...for our purposes...focus on what
happened to Tiamat , what the Tablet of Destinies
really was...later , you will understand reference
to an astrological chant , or fifty names...as our
class proceeds...
Shawn Blackwolf
October 10th, 2007, 02:13 PM
Shawn Nudimmud a word that we can relate to Aerr?
Erick...What ???
Please...start from the beginning...full sentences , slowly ,
and clearly...where are you getting the word ?
Continue your question from there , coherently , and I
shall do my best to answer...please note which link I said
was best...# 2 is someone's modern creation...not what
we shall be working with , if that is where you are getting
it...thank you...but please be more clear...:weirdsmil ...Ok ?
Erick
October 10th, 2007, 02:26 PM
Okay I got that word from this link: http://faculty.gvsu.edu/websterm/Enuma_Elish.html
Here it says Nudimmud ("image fashioner"--another name for Ea or Enki).
So I was trying to figure out if the two were related in some way.
~ lowlinora ~
October 10th, 2007, 02:42 PM
Okay, here is what I got:
Black = 73
Dragon = 725
total = 798
Goddess = 545
Theeamth = 350
Grand Total = 1693
Theeamth + And + Marduk + Prog' raym = 994
Fencai
October 10th, 2007, 04:27 PM
lowlinora-
you are correct on
Black and Theamth, for dragon and goddess be sure to use the lower values.
I have some running to do this evening- (last minute prepartaions for Faery Con this weekend for my outfits) so as soon as those are completed, I will try and join you all!
Shawn Blackwolf
October 10th, 2007, 05:10 PM
Okay I got that word from this link: http://faculty.gvsu.edu/websterm/Enuma_Elish.html
Here it says Nudimmud ("image fashioner"--another name for Ea or Enki).
So I was trying to figure out if the two were related in some way.
1. Does not pertain to what we are doing...
2. Ea , is the letter value for Aerr...chaos rune...only when you
consider the shape contains the rune for order , Sdar , does it
have a significance of bringing chaos out of order
3. Enki , is a corrupted form of En - Kce , the two runes , across
from each other...in the dual eight columns...An - Eck...
Nice try...but , no...
Shawn Blackwolf
October 10th, 2007, 05:39 PM
Okay, here is what I got:
Black = 73
Dragon = 725
total = 798
Goddess = 545
Theeamth = 350
Grand Total = 1693
Theeamth + And + Marduk + Prog' raym = 994
Lowlinora...and other students , until you get good enough
I would appreciate you listing your words as follows :
D = 4
R = 200
A = 1
G = 3
O = 70
N = 50 / 700
We are using lower value for " N " = 50
Thus , Dragon = 328
This was actually listed previously in this thread , and
could have been double checked...I want everyone , not
just you , Lowlinora , to hear this...add it on your own...
If you can , double check against someone else's work...
Even if you used high value , I don't see how you got
your value , Lowlinora...no problem , really...but help
me to help you...list it out...
Ahh...I just saw it...you used gifuu , instead of yar...
Everyone , please note...if a rune , such as gifuu , has
both an X , or , G letter value , but the X is first...that
is more likely...does happen...more rarely...Yar , on the
other hand , is predominantly G , as a letter value...
Actually , Dragon , is a good word to contemplate each
letter , and figure out why each letter meaning applies
to a dragon...what are the meanings of D , R , A , G , O , N ?
Note Yar , as G , deals with phase shifting...and a marriage
of Heaven - Earth...
So , Lowlinora used a 400 value , rather than 3 ...for both
Dragon , and Goddess...see it , Lowlinora ?
Shawn Blackwolf
October 10th, 2007, 08:01 PM
It currently says 4:59 , PST...I will be on by 5:30
Having computer problems...trying to solve them...
shadowmoon23
October 10th, 2007, 08:03 PM
wahoo.... I'll actually be home tonight and be able to take part in the activities!!!
Master Blackwolf, I have done all of the formulas, I just have some minor gliches that I have to tend to that require a little bit more thought than i could put forth in a vehicle....
Let's Play!:ghost:
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