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Kochou
September 28th, 2007, 08:46 AM
How does one create a fetch? By fetch I mean the thoughtform that is sent off to do your bidding.

I've searched the web and MW but I think the term 'fetch' makes it hard to search for it. I don't know of any other name it's called.

Thanks a lot! :heyalove:

Freyaschild
September 28th, 2007, 09:45 AM
How does one create a fetch? By fetch I mean the thoughtform that is sent off to do your bidding.

I've searched the web and MW but I think the term 'fetch' makes it hard to search for it. I don't know of any other name it's called.

Thanks a lot! :heyalove:

How is a "fetch" different from any other spells? Isn't that what all spells/prayers are?

SphinYote
September 28th, 2007, 10:16 AM
I read something a long time ago, can't remember the source and I apologise for that, but "fetches" are said to be created in such a way that they have a consciousness, a life of their own, a somewhat independant existence from the one who created them. And therefore, unless carefully controlled, they can rebel. I seem to recall that unless your desires are very focussed, these beings can take on aspects of your own personality, and in them they are magnified in ways that could potentially be detrimental. Supposedly, you can also lose bits of yourself in the making of them.

The source I read was a warning against making them, and I'm not sure how biased it was, but I remember it made sense at the time.

Perhaps someone can come up with a different facet thanwhat I read, and we can get a more complete picture here, as I'm curious, as well....

Kochou
September 28th, 2007, 11:18 AM
How is a "fetch" different from any other spells? Isn't that what all spells/prayers are?

No, it isn't. Fetches are semi-conscious. Prayers and spells aren't. Spells tend to that the path of least resistance. Fetches aren't like that. They go on what you tell them and keep going until they either complete what they do or they fizzle out (if you put a self-distruct into them.) Unchecked fetches can become vampiric and nasty little creatures. Spells aren't like that either.

The energy principle is the same (creating, focusing, drawing it all up) but the application is different. I'm really bad at explaining. XD

BlackLili
September 28th, 2007, 11:30 AM
Try searching the term "Servitors" or "homunculus" in google. I believe the first term that comes up for Servitor refers to an old educational term, but below that, it's all magicians talking.

Servitors have become popular, I've noticed among a lot of magick users who also deal with programming/coding or math and physics. It seems to be a rather left-brained process to build and release one.

A Servitor, in my experience, is an entity born of the will of the Prime, or Magickian. It is a "programmable" entity, designed usually to carry out either one simple task (such as gathering information or delivering a message,) or a repetitive task constantly (such as guardian servitors who patrol a perimeter.)

Servitors require the full belief and faith of their Prime to be effective. You have to not just believe that the Servitor is there in front of you, but you have to see it. You have to know what it looks like, inside and out, from skeleton to nervous system to muscle to flesh, (or however you choose to design yours from the inside out.) You have to be able to see it and realize its existence unwaveringly. Once it has become entirely real to you, then you know that it is strong enough to carry out the job you give it.

Servitors are the embodiment of intent. They have no brains, no feelings of their own, no intent other than the will of the Magickian.

A good example of early Servitors is the legendary Joseph, the Golum of Prague. http://www.pitt.edu/~dash/golem.html (http://www.pitt.edu/%7Edash/golem.html)

The Golum of Prague was designed by a Rabbi to protect the Jewish community in that city from accusations of infant sacrifice. Clickity link (http://www.pitt.edu/%7Edash/golem.html) and learn all about him.

And yet, although the Golem was not possessed of a soul, one could not fail to notice that on the Sabbath there was something peculiar in his bearing, for his face bore a friendlier and more amiable expression than it did on weekdays. It was afterwards related that every Friday Rabbi Loew used to remove the tablet on which he had written the Ineffable Name from under the Golem's tongue, as he was afraid lest the Sabbath should make the Golem immortal and men might be induced to worship him as an idol. The Golem had no inclinations, either good or bad. Whatever action he performed he did under compulsion and out of fear lest he should be turned again into dust and reduced to naught once more. Whatever was situated within ten ells above the ground or under it he could reach easily and nothing would stop him in the execution of anything that he had undertaken.

How's that for starters?

Beannachtai,
BlackLili

blackroseivy
September 28th, 2007, 12:22 PM
There you go - that is the quintessence of intelligent thought-form making.

Among the 1st spells I ever did were highly effective thought-forms. I barraged my subject with them - & it worked. YOU MUST BE VERY CAREFUL, though - it can backfire & how!! :(

Lunacie
September 28th, 2007, 12:58 PM
I was taught that they are "thought constructs" but I couldn't find any information on that either. But it did lead me to this information on creating a Thought Form:
http://www.themystica.com/mystica/articles/t/thought_forms_how_to_program_and_use.html

MonSno_LeeDra
September 28th, 2007, 02:53 PM
The term Fetch can hold many meanings. I can't say how valid these links are in truth but here's some to look at:

http://www.soltakss.com/spirit4.html

http://blakulla.home.mindspring.com/fetch.pdf

http://home.earthlink.net/~jordsvin/Paths%20To%20The%20Gods/Guardians%20and%20Totems.htm

Fetch:

A ghost (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ghost), doppelgänger (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doppelg%C3%A4nger) or other apparition
A fetch or fæcce (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/F%C3%A6cce) in Theodism (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theodism) is one's guardian or attendant spirit or familiar and is held to appear or take the form of an animal or chimera (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chimera) resembling one's disposition, quality or propensity

Fetch
by Micha F. Lindemans
A wraith. The disembodied ghost of a living person. They most commonly appear to distant friends and relations at the very moment before the death of those they represent. Fetch-light or fetch candle is a light appearing at night and which supposedly foretells someone's death.

fetch [ fech (http://encarta.msn.com/encnet/features/dictionary/Pronounce.aspx?search=fetch) ] (plural fetch·es)
noun Definition: apparition of living person: a vision, apparition, or ghost appearing as the doppelgänger of a living person

[Late 17th century. Origin ?]

Though I will admit I have seen fetch as described in this thread quite a bit in Advanced Dungeons and Dragons (AD&D) as a though construct.

Amythyst
September 29th, 2007, 07:47 PM
You make a fetch (like you make a fith-fath), but they are not a representative of humanity and they are most definitely to be unmade, once their time is up, for the spell to manifest.

Always make one inside a well cast circle.

You will gather bits and pieces, like feather and bone and fur and claw, anything that resembles, or has inherent within it, the qualities of your intention. These things are elemental by nature, but fixed in a pattern for a short duration. Your main ingredients are beeswax and string. Beeswax is malleable when it is slightly warm, and your bits can form themselves within and around it. The string, which will be plaited, will bind the spell to its purpose.

A fetch is easier than astral projection, and its aim is to seek and find whatever you desire to come to you. You are to write, on paper, exactly what you want. Don’t generalize and don’t be vague, for again, these tools are not selective; they have no feelings and they have no conscience.

You are to evoke the power of Earth, Air, Water, or Fire (or all) into the fetch bundle and focus on your desire.

Accord a time frame, not more than one month, for the process to be fulfilled. Note that the process is not the outcome. The outcome will not occur until the fetch has returned! Think and speak from Moon phase to Moon phase (by week), or from solar cycle to solar cycle (by day). Then send your fetch off to do its job.

I have created successful fetches using artist’s clay—with the added bonus that I could choose a color corresponding with my intentions.

It’s a hoot.

You can find this and more information in, “Witchcraft: Theory and Practice” by Ly De Angeles.

BlackLili
October 1st, 2007, 12:41 PM
You make a fetch (like you make a fith-fath), but they are not a representative of humanity and they are most definitely to be unmade, once their time is up, for the spell to manifest.

Always make one inside a well cast circle.

You will gather bits and pieces, like feather and bone and fur and claw, anything that resembles, or has inherent within it, the qualities of your intention. These things are elemental by nature, but fixed in a pattern for a short duration. Your main ingredients are beeswax and string. Beeswax is malleable when it is slightly warm, and your bits can form themselves within and around it. The string, which will be plaited, will bind the spell to its purpose.

A fetch is easier than astral projection, and its aim is to seek and find whatever you desire to come to you. You are to write, on paper, exactly what you want. Don’t generalize and don’t be vague, for again, these tools are not selective; they have no feelings and they have no conscience.

You are to evoke the power of Earth, Air, Water, or Fire (or all) into the fetch bundle and focus on your desire.

Accord a time frame, not more than one month, for the process to be fulfilled. Note that the process is not the outcome. The outcome will not occur until the fetch has returned! Think and speak from Moon phase to Moon phase (by week), or from solar cycle to solar cycle (by day). Then send your fetch off to do its job.

I have created successful fetches using artist’s clay—with the added bonus that I could choose a color corresponding with my intentions.

It’s a hoot.

You can find this and more information in, “Witchcraft: Theory and Practice” by Ly De Angeles.
What a good concise description!

Libris
October 2nd, 2007, 09:43 AM
I think that it's discussed in Lady Sheba's Book of Shadows. I've never done it, so I don't really know if it works, how to do it etc...