Annorah
October 22nd, 2007, 06:29 AM
Does anyone know of a Goddess who has a phoenix as her symbol?
Thanks for your help.
Agaliha
October 22nd, 2007, 04:02 PM
Does anyone know of a Goddess who has a phoenix as her symbol?Hmmm...
The Kemetic Bennu (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bennu)is associated with gods (like Ra) and the Nile, etc.
The Chinese and Japanese cultures came to mind...
I found this--about the only goddess that came up:
Xi Wang-mu
The Chinese goddess of immortality and the personification of the feminine element Yin. The Taoist Xi Wang-mu is referred to as the 'Royal Mother of the West', and rules over the western paradise of the immortals. She is the daughter of the god Yu-huang and her husband is Mu Gong (yang). Originally she was a terrifying tiger-woman who brought the plague, but under the influence of Taoism she became a benign goddess.
Her nine-story palace of jade lies in the mythical Kun-lun mountains, near the Lake of Jewels. It is surrounded by a wall of over a thousand miles long and of pure gold. The male immortals reside in the right wing and the female immortals reside in the left wing of this palace. In her garden she cultivates the peach of immortality. This peach tree forms only one peach every three thousand years, which then takes another three thousand years to ripen. When it is ripe, Hsi Wang-mu invites the immortals to a feast to celebrate their birthday and to partake ot the miraculous peach which bestows another lease of immortality. She is portrayed as a young beautiful woman wearing a royal gown, sometimes riding a peacock.
He favorite animal is Feng-huang, the symbol of immortality.
http://www.pantheon.org/articles/x/xi_wang-mu.htmlAlso (under another name):
Si-wang-mu, who lived eternally in the Jade Mountains, was a Chinese mother goddess or Mother Queen of the West. She was a deputy of heaven who could see the world from her mountain peak and send punishments to evil doers. Si-wang-mu may have been the same goddess as Si-mu of the oracle bones. In the first century B.C., Si-Wang-Mu is paired with Dung-wang-fu, the father king of the East. During the second century A.D., Si-wang-mu was depicted with wings. She has also been depicted with serpent's tails for feet.
When the Emperor Mu requested that she give him the elixir of immortality, Si-wang-mu refused, but shared with him, instead, seven peaches which he planned to plant to obtain immortality. He then learned they bear fruit only once in 3000 years and not on earth.
Sources: "An Ancient Chinese Mystery Cult" Homer H. Dubs The Harvard Theological Review, Vol. 35, No. 4. (Oct., 1942), pp. 221-240.
"Outlaws' Dreams of Power and Position in Shuihu zhuan" Yenna Wu Chinese Literature: Essays, Articles, Reviews (CLEAR), Vol. 18. (Dec., 1996), pp. 45-67.
Alternate Spellings: Xi-wang-mu, Hsi wang mu, Si wang mu, Xi wang mu
http://ancienthistory.about.com/od/china/g/Siwangmu.htm
Feng-huang is the Chinese phoenix.
Here's some sites about them:
Feng Huang, Emperor of Birds (http://rds.yahoo.com/_ylt=A0oGkm57_xxHC28BcCVXNyoA;_ylu=X3oDMTExZzV1djhyBHNlYwNzcgRwb3MDNgRjb2xvA3NrMQR2dGlkAwRsA1dTMQ--/SIG=11v90na04/EXP=1193169147/**http%3a//www.avians.net/paragon/fenghuang.htm)
Mythical Realm: Phoenix Rising (http://www.mythicalrealm.com/creatures/phoenix.html)
Glossary: Phoenix (Feng) (http://rds.yahoo.com/_ylt=A0oGkm22_xxHyG0BMJFXNyoA;_ylu=X3oDMTEydDFqYWM1BHNlYwNzcgRwb3MDMTMEY29sbwNzazEEdnRpZAMEbANXUzE-/SIG=128018dug/EXP=1193169206/**http%3a//www.gotheborg.com/glossary/data/phoenix.shtml)
Hou-ou (or Hoo-oo) -- The Japanese Phoenix (http://rds.yahoo.com/_ylt=A0oGkmXM_RxHtD4B97ZXNyoA;_ylu=X3oDMTExY281YmEwBHNlYwNzcgRwb3MDMQRjb2xvA3NrMQR2dGlkAwRsA1dTMQ--/SIG=12d76mdjh/EXP=1193168716/**http%3a//www.onmarkproductions.com/html/ho-oo-phoenix.shtml)
And about her:
XI-WANGMU : The deity from Chinese Mythology (http://rds.yahoo.com/_ylt=A0oGkmn2_xxH7XcB1opXNyoA;_ylu=X3oDMTEyZ3YyZHJvBHNlYwNzcgRwb3MDMTAEY29sbwNzazEEdnRpZAMEbANXUzE-/SIG=12u958hvu/EXP=1193169270/**http%3a//www.godchecker.com/pantheon/chinese-mythology.php%3fdeity=XI-WANGMU)
Queen Mother of the West - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (http://rds.yahoo.com/_ylt=A0oGklZeAB1HCBEA.G5XNyoA;_ylu=X3oDMTEybGk1Zzk1BHNlYwNzcgRwb3MDMTUEY29sbwNzazEEdnRpZAMEbANXUzE-/SIG=11qea1m27/EXP=1193169374/**http%3a//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xi_Wangmu)
Chinese Philosophy & Religion: Immortals (http://rds.yahoo.com/_ylt=A0oGkkvLAB1HBH0BCnRXNyoA;_ylu=X3oDMTEybmhma21pBHNlYwNzcgRwb3MDMzcEY29sbwNzazEEdnRpZAMEbANXUzE-/SIG=13871i5sc/EXP=1193169483/**http%3a//qi-journal.com/philosophy.asp%3f-Token.FindPage=3%26-Token.SearchID=Immortals)
Perhaps reading up about the many different phoenix-like birds (Arabic, Kemetic, Asian, etc) and seeing if anything clicks with you. It might not be linked to a particular goddess, but to the symbolism of the phoenix. Or a combination of things.
Actually, if you wanted to discuss the phoenix myths you can start a thread in Myths and Folklore (http://www.mysticwicks.com/forumdisplay.php?f=298) ;)
Annorah
October 22nd, 2007, 04:17 PM
Thank you, Agaliha :)
Agaliha
October 22nd, 2007, 04:23 PM
You're welcome :)
aluokaloo
December 14th, 2007, 10:31 PM
I don't quite understand, could you please give more detail do you see a goddess with a phoenix or did you just see the phoenix itself? Because you could have just been visited by a phoenix
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