Hitler's Supernatural Rise To Power

[Pagan Warrior]

I will reluctantly admit I have not researched Hitler much, nor do I know much about him historically. However, I did find this excerpt to be QUITE interesting. Was Hitler's rise to power supernatural, good planning and manipulation, or just dumb luck?

Anyhow, enjoy: http://video.msn.com/video.aspx?mkt=en-US&brand=&vid=29551315-1ee0-4882-bf6d-2a32ebaa5765

[sarabethv]

While Hitler certainly believed in such things and frequently consulted with psychics; I truly doubt that his actual rise to power had anything to do with the occult. I suspect it was a combination of an extremely charismatic speaker, combined with abject poverty and an easy scapegoat.

P.S. can't look at the video at work

[LostSheep]

mainly, i think, he was a shrewd operator who knew how to appeal to the instincts of the people (and it wasn't just the Germans' who were instinctively anti-semitic then), how to pin the blame for defeat in 1918 on some "foreign" group who could be made the convenient scapegoats, and won support by promising to turn round the economic situation... which he did, to be entirely fair. I think it was Himmler who was mainly intersted in the occult, but I don't think Adolf ever really took it that seriously... i think he was too cynical to really believe in, well, anything much except his own myth.

[Laisrean]

I don't think it was anything magical or supernatural. If he was good at anything it was giving speeches, and whether you hate him or not you must admit he was a great orator... even if you don't know what he is saying, you can tell he is saying it passionately.

Those oratory skills combined with the humiliating treaty of Versailles made the German people VERY eager to follow him. That's pretty much all there is to it, I think.

[Laisrean]

mainly, i think, he was a shrewd operator who knew how to appeal to the instincts of the people (and it wasn't just the Germans' who were instinctively anti-semitic then), how to pin the blame for defeat in 1918 on some "foreign" group who could be made the convenient scapegoats, and won support by promising to turn round the economic situation... which he did, to be entirely fair. I think it was Himmler who was mainly intersted in the occult, but I don't think Adolf ever really took it that seriously... i think he was too cynical to really believe in, well, anything much except his own myth.

Hitler was very superstitious and was terrified of the number 13. I believe his superstitions factored heavily into his military planning and so on. Which actually made it easier for the allies to win, because the allies weren't crippled in this way.

But you are right, that many of his henchmen were very into the occult and probably more so than he was. Rudolf Hess supposedly foreseen the allies ultimately winning the war, and he parachuted into Scotland to try to negotiate with them. This was in 1940 or so back when everything was going great for the Nazis, so you have to wonder how he thought/knew the allies would ultimately win.

[BadVixen]

I can say that the reason Hitler rose to power the way he did was part Germany was in a depression and the people were scared and looking for some reason for why this was happening. Hitler at the beginning seemed to be a 'good guy' and he gained his power through a very legal way......It was once he was in power that he did his horrible deeds.

[Cindlady2]

I researched this quit heavily in 1970- '71. I won't get into allot of details (most I forgot by now anyway) but there was an occult group that selected and manuvered Hitler into power. However once he gained this power he had many of them killed. The beginning of the end for him!

[Laisrean]

I researched this quit heavily in 1970- '71. I won't get into allot of details (most I forgot by now anyway) but there was an occult group that selected and manuvered Hitler into power. However once he gained this power he had many of them killed. The beginning of the end for him!

Yeah, I remember there was some Czech psychic which did nothing but lavish praise on Hitler, but Hitler had him murdered after he found out he was Jewish.

[Shawn Blackwolf]

I am extremely well aware of the Vrihl Society , which
placed Hitler in power , their mgieckal techniques , and
advanced workings with the Telluric Current , including
geomantic placement of his speeches , colors and symbols
utilized , words used to incite the masses , and timing
by astrological , and numerical significance of events...

I am not only aware , I am well versed , and proficient ,
in tapping into , and working with these forces...

They are a double edged blade , and may be used to heal ,
or slay , create chaos , impose order , or many other various
and sundry purposes...

Until one has been trained in these techniques , it is easy
to deny their power , or use , among those who know in
the world , including our own government , yet , once
initiated into the earth energies tradition , there is no doubt
or question , regarding the use by Hitler and his associates ,
especially the SS , let alone other power hungry despots , in
positions today...( Let alone in the past...)

[Meadhbh]

Well if you want to believe it Hilter had the Spear of Destiny for awhile and that amoung many other things is the reaso he was able to raise so quickly. Luckily the spear went missing which what some people think was the cause of his down hill slide.

[David19]

I haven't watched the video yet, but I definantly will as it interests me, but I think he rose to power 'cause he was a good speech maker, and knew how to manipulate people, but I kind of do think there was some supernatural aid going on too (like using psychics, or the magic that Shawn Blackwolf mentioned, or even the Spear of Destiny), also, I remember seeing this programme once that was looking at Hitler's background, and when he was in the army as a private, in WW1, just before a grenade was thrown at the area he was in, he heard a voice say "move" (or something like that), and it convinced him he was destined for "great things".

I think that shows that not all supernatural entities are nice and "good" (I do kind of think there are some anti-Semitic entities, ranging from ghosts who were like that in life, to other non-human beings, maybe even gods).

[elessar]

Hitler was a drunk and a troublemake as a young man and he almost drunk himself to death. Then years later he met some very important men who made him what he was. They wanted to control Germany and Europe so they created a "pupett" to rule. Hitler was always very interested in the occult and so were these men. According to some rumours Hitler sent his history speciallists to travel the globe in search of ancient relics and instruments of power. Those rumours also said that he found the Spear od Destiny and cristal skulls of Central America. But if those rumours are true he only found those relics after his rise to power.

[Al-Yasa]

great speaker but horrible writer, wenever i have an attack of insomnia i read mein kumpf to put me to sleep, as for being involved with the occult just about every politician in history has had some connection with an occult order(ex:george wasingtn was a free mason)

[Myzterio]

I can say that the reason Hitler rose to power the way he did was part Germany was in a depression and the people were scared and looking for some reason for why this was happening. Hitler at the beginning seemed to be a 'good guy' and he gained his power through a very legal way......It was once he was in power that he did his horrible deeds.

Not entirely. I believe his party used cheating to get him into the role of Bundeskansler, after which he called emergency time and thereby amassed power in a central point: himself. Not a bad move, admittedly, as centralised power is much more efficient.
I'll see if I can find sources to back this up once I get home. :)

[Xander67]

oh, please, Hitler was the creation of Grandaddy Bush! there was nothing supernatural about his rise to power at all, it was all carefully planned out ...

yeah the guy had an adgenda, and was into some controverisial subjects, but he was put in power just like Osama bin laden was...

[David19]

oh, please, Hitler was the creation of Grandaddy Bush! there was nothing supernatural about his rise to power at all, it was all carefully planned out ...

yeah the guy had an adgenda, and was into some controverisial subjects, but he was put in power just like Osama bin laden was...

Not sure if I understand, but Bush wasn't even alive before Hitler, neither was his father.

[Laisrean]

Not sure if I understand, but Bush wasn't even alive before Hitler, neither was his father.

Well, he did say grand-daddy Bush, referring to Prescott Bush, who really did have some dealings with the Nazis. I think that was how the Bush family became wealthy, actually.

[Shawn Blackwolf]

oh, please, Hitler was the creation of Grandaddy Bush! there was nothing supernatural about his rise to power at all, it was all carefully planned out ...

yeah the guy had an adgenda, and was into some controverisial subjects, but he was put in power just like Osama bin laden was...

Oh , please , Xander...

Are you not aware Prescott Bush was a member of the
Skull and Bones Society , which was known as Chapter
322 of the German secret society , known as Liebenblut...

Also known as the Brotherhood of Death...

I would recommend you go speak with some superiors in
your Order...not the weekend 33rd degrees , but those most
likely in their 90's , and seated in the public headquarters
in Washington , D.C. ; Those who truly earned their seat ,
and know very well , the connections between the occult ,
and power , and how Hitler and those behind him , including
Prescott Bush , utilized those powers...

I do appreciate the Ostrich feather...not Ostrich consciousness...

[Xander67]

that was pretty much where I was going with my post Shawn, lol

:wave:

[Shawn Blackwolf]

Great to see you too , Xander...just wanted to make sure...

Couldn't believe , you , of all people on this site , would
not be aware of these things...just checking...lol...

No hoodwinking here...just a nod , and a wink...

[Xander67]

oh, I like to consider myself well educated in the TRUE American/World History.. too bad our children get the revised editions lol

[Raven Mystic]

There is no question that Hitler was a very powerful and gifted speaker and he caught the imagination of the German people. When elected to power, he delivered on his promises and raised Germany out of the poverty that cames from from defeat in World War I. Within only a few years Germany became the strongest economy in the world.

If he had not make some horrible misjudgementss, he would be known today as one of the greatest leaders in history.

The connection to the Vrihl Society is very interesting. I have never heard of this before.

[Merrick]

Heres some information that might shock you about his 'magical' rise to power. im not sure if this is 100 true, but its still really interesting.
the Nazis apparently invented a weapon using sound, an microscopic low noise that actually killed you by forcing you to shit out your organs but fortunatly there was no way to block out the sound so they didnt use it because it killed both the enemy and the ally. but during Hitlers speeches, they played it just low enough to make the audience feel sick, and as his speech progresed, they lessened the sound so that the audience actually felt better listening to Hitlers speech.

[WitchyLady777]

Having watched quite a few of the Hitler speech videos both with and without subtitles, I've come to the conclusion that Hitler was possessed by something. Bear with me, it may sound nutty, but I honestly think he was.

Before his introduction to the occultists in Germany and his rise to power he was basically a nothing, a mediocre soldier, a failed painter, a shy man who had little in the way of real skills in speech making.

Supposedly he got his speech skills completely revamped via a man who was heavily into the occult.

I believe that this man, may have used Hitler, and may have actually led him to be possessed by something negative.

The more he studied, the more powerful he grew, the more mad Hitler seemingly got.

Also, and I think this may have also been a real factor with his later mental state, there is reason to suggest Hitler was a very ill man, that he had syphillis and/or Parkinson's. He had a very pronounced tremor in one hand and in several videos taken just before he did, he had such a bad case of the hand shakes that he had to hide his hands to avoid it being on film, and you can see him doing that, realizing that his hand was betraying him, and him hiding it behind him.

I think it was a combination of things, illness, drugs maybe, and the influence of a negative entity...

In Hitler's case it was a deadly combination, not only for him, but also for the world...

[David19]

Having watched quite a few of the Hitler speech videos both with and without subtitles, I've come to the conclusion that Hitler was possessed by something. Bear with me, it may sound nutty, but I honestly think he was.

Before his introduction to the occultists in Germany and his rise to power he was basically a nothing, a mediocre soldier, a failed painter, a shy man who had little in the way of real skills in speech making.

Supposedly he got his speech skills completely revamped via a man who was heavily into the occult.

I believe that this man, may have used Hitler, and may have actually led him to be possessed by something negative.

The more he studied, the more powerful he grew, the more mad Hitler seemingly got.

Also, and I think this may have also been a real factor with his later mental state, there is reason to suggest Hitler was a very ill man, that he had syphillis and/or Parkinson's. He had a very pronounced tremor in one hand and in several videos taken just before he did, he had such a bad case of the hand shakes that he had to hide his hands to avoid it being on film, and you can see him doing that, realizing that his hand was betraying him, and him hiding it behind him.

I think it was a combination of things, illness, drugs maybe, and the influence of a negative entity...

In Hitler's case it was a deadly combination, not only for him, but also for the world...

That makes sense, and it could be possible, I do think Hitler probably had supernatural aid to get him into the position to do his evil, and like I mentioned before, in WW1, he said himself, he heard a voice telling him to move out of the way, just before a grenade hit the area he was standing in, and that convinced him he had a great destiny to fulfil.

[Laisrean]

That makes sense, and it could be possible, I do think Hitler probably had supernatural aid to get him into the position to do his evil, and like I mentioned before, in WW1, he said himself, he heard a voice telling him to move out of the way, just before a grenade hit the area he was standing in, and that convinced him he had a great destiny to fulfil.

Hearing a voice could be considered a sign of insanity. Or it could have just been someone next to him.

I don't think his rise was supernatural, but there was something interesting about his birth chart. Some astrologer looked at it before she knew who it was for (and before he was well known) and she said he was destined to be a great leader. But whether that is true or not, I think he did suffer from some degree of mental illness and that would explain his irrational decisions and any voices he may have heard.

[Shawn Blackwolf]

Well...there are those who disbelieve...those who
believe...and those who know the mgieck used...

Now...one part of this , might be restated...

As in the code I work with , there is a formula...

Nature's Energy Resonance : Increased Entropy = 1318

Which is our column of symbols sum , which contains
the name , Na - Zi , we might choose to percieve this ,
with a deeper understanding of their tilting of the
swastika , and spin , as entropic movement...which then
would not qualify it as supernatural , yet nature - al , in
it's deeper understanding...

As I have stated previously...he , and his cohorts , tapped
into the telluric current...another formula...

Working With Telluric Current : I Am Hearing Voices = 1318

Now , in the Faery Tree , the two runes , for fire and water ,
at the very bottom of the Tree , equal 530...this is known , as
the Realm Of The Ancestors...think what he was calling on...

As well , 530 , in Obri , equals " Voices "...

Just a thought...

[David19]

Hearing a voice could be considered a sign of insanity. Or it could have just been someone next to him.

I don't think his rise was supernatural, but there was something interesting about his birth chart. Some astrologer looked at it before she knew who it was for (and before he was well known) and she said he was destined to be a great leader. But whether that is true or not, I think he did suffer from some degree of mental illness and that would explain his irrational decisions and any voices he may have heard.

True, it could've been some kind of mental illness, but if you accept the existence of spirits, both good and bad, then it could be likely that there are some supernatural beings who may have had his back, or some spirits who were anti-Semitic (just 'cause you're a spirit, doesn't mean you're "nice").

[Laisrean]

True, it could've been some kind of mental illness, but if you accept the existence of spirits, both good and bad, then it could be likely that there are some supernatural beings who may have had his back, or some spirits who were anti-Semitic (just 'cause you're a spirit, doesn't mean you're "nice").

It is also possible that if it was a spirit he heard, the spirit might have been good but maybe it didn't know that Hitler was evil or was going to turn evil? It is possible that Hitler wasn't really evil back in those days, but I'm not really sure about that. But what I'm trying to say is spirits may not necessarily be all knowing and may not be able to see inside someone's mind or soul and know what's deep in there.

I think that theory is further supported by how he ended up losing the war in the end. Because if he really did have divine help in getting to power, that help seemed to have abandoned him after some point. I would guess that point was probably when he started the "final solution" because that would show he was evil and that they made a mistake in helping him rise to power.

And like I said with his birth chart, it said he had the potential to be a great leader, and I think that was true but something went wrong along the way and maybe even spirits don't know everything?