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Arzhela
June 21st, 2002, 03:56 PM
I had a weird experience last night, and I'm wondering whether it was a sort of accidental trance or just me being very tired. This is going to be a little long, I guess.

I went to bed around 11 and woke up and remained awake from 2:30-4:15 (watching World Cup). When I climbed back into bed and started to go to sleep, I had a distinct feeling of falling or going very deep into something...well, more falling very fast but controlled. It felt sort of like one time when I went pretty deep into meditation, only this felt about a thousand times farther. I had a brief thought cross my mind that the falling sensation was kind of weird but my thoughts drifted (probably because I was tired, although they didn't morph into strange scenes like thoughts usually do when you're tired...my mind was blank). The walls of my room creaked, as they do often, but I instinctively opened my eyes--or tried to, as the case was. It felt like I was entirely paralyzed, like my mind was trapped inside of my body. Through a sort of haze I remembered reading somewhere that in a deep trance state a sort of paralysis occurs but that if you concentrate really hard on moving something you can. So I did that and managed to open my eyes and the whole thing was broken; I could move. I closed my eyes again and the falling, paralysis, concentrationon moving one thing, succeeding process happened several more times before I finally got freaked out, turned on some music, and finally went to sleep. What I'm wondering is...was this just the result of being fairly tired (though nothing like that has ever happened before to me)...or did I slip into some kind of meditative state? I figured I'd ask the question here in case anybody had any ideas.
Wow, sorry this was so long!
~Arzhela

jelly.belly
June 21st, 2002, 06:53 PM
:eek: It happens to me sometimes, I never thought of it like that tho... But, when it happens to me, I can usually move, with some effort, but I don't need to consentrate on it or anything...

Tammy Sullivan
June 21st, 2002, 09:39 PM
Actually there are several possibilities
1) you have a sleep disorder called sleep apnea, or paralysis
2) have you ever heard of being "hagged"? The hallmarks of a hagging are much like what you mentioned.
Just a couple of ideas.

Mithrea
June 21st, 2002, 10:24 PM
Okay am I confused . . . . ?

There was an almost identical post recently. I think. I will go look and see if I can bump it up for you.

Mithrea
June 21st, 2002, 10:27 PM
Okay see if anything here helps:

http://www.mysticwicks.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=16141&highlight=dream

:)

Rick
June 21st, 2002, 10:40 PM
Pretty classic symptoms of pre-OBE...

Arzhela
June 21st, 2002, 11:38 PM
Thanks for taking the time to bring that up, Mithrea. It's not exactly the same circumstance, but the thread had some interesting ideas in it.
Greta, do you mean "hagging" as in harassing? I'm not sure I understand.

cherrywind
June 22nd, 2002, 04:28 AM
I've experienced this MANY times. I'd say at least once a week. This came up in my psych class from two semesters ago, and I don't remember exactly the scientific explanations of it, but I believe it has something to do with your brain waves slowing down. I think it's accompanied in the same stage as mycholonic (sp?) jerks (where your limbs will jerk unexpectedly).

As I said, I don't remember this exactly. I wish I knew where my notes were from that class!

Tammy Sullivan
June 22nd, 2002, 01:26 PM
A hagging is a rare kind of attack on the body by an unseen spirit, the hallmarks of which are paralysis, but you are completely aware. Usually if you can move somehow, like opening your eyes, it stops. As I said it is rare. It was just a thought that popped into my head, Don't be alarmed. If you had been hagged, you would have felt pressure on your chest, perhaps not been able to breathe comfortably, and usually your heartbeat accelerates.
I don't know why it popped in my head after I read your post. But I just thought you might want to research it, as people with sleep disorders sometimes say they suffer from it.
People who are expanding the mind through meditation, dream study and such can go on some wild trips though and I would venture to say this is more than likely the case.
anyway, if you want to research it e mail me I can recommend a few books.

Arzhela
June 29th, 2002, 04:00 PM
Thanks everyone for all the responses. Now at least I have some ideas as to what that was all about:)

Myst
June 29th, 2002, 04:11 PM
Originally posted by cherrywind
This came up in my psych class from two semesters ago, and I don't remember exactly the scientific explanations of it, but I believe it has something to do with your brain waves slowing down. I think it's accompanied in the same stage as mycholonic (sp?) jerks (where your limbs will jerk unexpectedly).

Yes the idea is to change your brain waves from the ones associated with everyday normal thought, and by doing so relax for the purpose of meditation, OBE's, or whatever. Trying to achieve this state of relaxation can result in 'limb jerks', and often it can be beneficial not to try to stop them but to flex your muscle intentionally then relax it. I remember the first time I did this, not really knowing what I was doing, and experienced the 'jerks' as I tried to relax each muscle. With patience I was able to relax completely and then when I tried to get out of it it took a few moments to be able to come out and move again.

I wouldn't be too concerned Arzhela, I think this kind of thing is perfectly normal when you get into that state.