My friend is freaking out form a reading...

[MysticCottageHerbs]

My friend recently got a reading from 2 different readers and both of them told her that there was a spell over her that is keeping her from finding her soul mate. What do you guys make of this? Do you think there is a curse on her? If so does anyone have a spell to get rid of this? Any help is appreciated. Thanks.

[Brigid Rowan]

Well, I guess first off, I'd have to ask if these readers knew about some spell/curse...what did they say about is specifically? What tradition do they practice? What ,if any, type religion/belief does your friend practice? And why does she feel that freaking out is beneficial?

It is possible these readers say stuff like that to clients to get them scared. Just because some one practices divination/magick doesnt make them always a nice or ethical person. But, anywho, post some more details, Im sure someone can help.

[Against The Tide]

I find it hard to believe that she has such a thing put on her, I think its self imposed but people find it easier to say that they have a spell placed upon them than to say the subconsciously are scared of/avoiding/deliberately sabotaging relationships. If I were you I wouldn't try and explain this to her (straight away) just make up a bogus impressive looking ritual and tell her that she is now free of all obsticals - if she believes it she will stop holding herself back.

[aranarose]

My first thought is to wonder where she got the readings. There are quite a few unscrupulous readers who will take advantage of people anyway that they can, including saying, "You've been cursed!!! Now pay me $xx.xx and I'll remove the curse from you."

That being said, a curse is technically possible, but highly unlikely. It's more likely that she's blocking herself from meeting someone out of fear and insecurity.

[Lorrie]

My first thought is to wonder where she got the readings. There are quite a few unscrupulous readers who will take advantage of people anyway that they can, including saying, "You've been cursed!!! Now pay me $xx.xx and I'll remove the curse from you."

That being said, a curse is technically possible, but highly unlikely. It's more likely that she's blocking herself from meeting someone out of fear and insecurity.


THAT was my exact thought when I read the post! I had it happen when I was new at all of this. Some woman for whatever reason, wrote to me telling me that bad things were going to begin happening to me, and if I sent her X amount of money, she could do this, or if I sent her XX amount, she could do even more. I considered writing back and saying some really nasty stuff, then decided to just throw it away,after we all had a good laugh out of it. Things were already falling apart in my life, but I was the cause of it, not a curse!!

[phoenixrising]

I agree, most curses are self imposed.. maybe she cast it subconciously? Or perhaps it isn't a curse and she needs to grow/learn something before she finds him so it works out?

<-- PR always finding the positive

[Artiste-LiLi]

Sounds like "Red Palm" bullhockey to me. Did they offer to "remove" the curse or "burn candles" for your friend? There are plenty of "theives" out there and my "BS indicator" is in hyperdrive right now. I've advised more than a few victims who have run afoul of the "theives" and if someone is offering to burn candles to remove a "curse"...I tell the victim how to burn their own candles and how to tell if there REALLY IS a "curse".

[wolf]

My friend recently got a reading from 2 different readers and both of them told her that there was a spell over her that is keeping her from finding her soul mate. What do you guys make of this? Do you think there is a curse on her? If so does anyone have a spell to get rid of this? Any help is appreciated. Thanks.

How much has each reader said they would charge your friend to remove the spell?

[anomalous]

People :) This is a Pagan forum, Magic happens ...

About the spell, it may certainly be true, believe me, i come from a very spiritual community, people put spells on each other all the time and they do it in all sorts of manner.

I'd take the warning seriously, provided the reading didn't come off being a "cold" reading and they didn't use obvious logic to create a fake reading. If a particular card is pulled out of the deck that has shown to the reader that it could be a spell then its definatly a posability.

Plus if the spell is elemental (well of course it is) it actually walks in spirit form with the intended target like a bad smell. Their guides would of seen that and passed the message on.

[Phoenix Blue]

People This is a Pagan forum, Magic happens ...
So what? Just because I'm Pagan doesn't mean I'm so open-minded my brains fall out. And my intuition, like others', tells me it's bollocks.


About the spell, it may certainly be true, believe me, i come from a very spiritual community, people put spells on each other all the time and they do it in all sorts of manner.
We must have different definitions of "spiritual," because what you describe above seems very non-spiritual and rather petty.

It sounds to me like the girl has some self-confidence issues. And she should worry less about finding a soulmate and more about finding ways to love herself.

[Brigid Rowan]

People :) This is a Pagan forum, Magic happens ...

About the spell, it may certainly be true, believe me, i come from a very spiritual community, people put spells on each other all the time and they do it in all sorts of manner.




Uhhhh....thats not spiritual to me, thats kinda an odd thing, to have a community constantly tossing magick on one another.....

[anomalous]

Uhhhh....thats not spiritual to me, thats kinda an odd thing, to have a community constantly tossing magick on one another.....

You'd think so. We tried burning our heretics and witches at the stake to stop this nonsense but it still keeps shining its ugly head what can it say ...

Tossing magic as much as you don't like it happens, just like people steal and murder. Some people are born with the ability to create such negative elemental energies simply from their emotions alone they don't need to cast a spell, it just happens for them. Meanwhile others try and try, steal locks of peoples hair and sing and dance over it only to have it just fizzle and die on them.

I'm sure spiritual protection is "spiritual" to you, wouldn't you think the very reason for having this protection is as equally spiritual?

The old testament confuses the words jealousy and murder so maybe both are the same in some ways.

In any case, spells happen, people such as myself can spot them a mile away, no i don't try and save the world or charge people a service. I leave karma be karma, in this case this persons path lead them too two tarot readers that said the same thing.

Better yet get fixed up elsewhere, go back to them and test them, might cost you a bit but it might show you how much of a bunch of "fraudsters" these guys are aswell ...

[WolfPup522]

We tried burning our heretics and witches at the stake to stop this nonsense but it still keeps shining its ugly head what can it say ...

Are you serious? I'm not making fun, I really am wondering if you are serious. Usually I can pick up on the sarcasm, but call me dense, I just don't see it here. I'm not quite sure what else to say... :confused:

[Xander67]

The Tarot is supposed to be used for divination and guidence, not fortune telling... I am seriously skeptical that there could be a spell or curse preventing your friend from finding her soul mate...

[Xander67]

In any case, spells happen, people such as myself can spot them a mile away, no i don't try and save the world or charge people a service. I leave karma be karma, in this case this persons path lead them too two tarot readers that said the same thing.

Yes, spells happen... and on that note, if someone or even two someones told me there was a spell on me preventing me from finding my soulmate I would ask for my money back from the reading...

what type of spell would that be, and how would it be cast???
Im sorry, I dont believe it...

There is someone for everyone, and love HAppens More than spells.

[Brigid Rowan]

You'd think so. We tried burning our heretics and witches at the stake to stop this nonsense but it still keeps shining its ugly head what can it say ......

Um, you can say if that comment is serious, or a very very poorly done 'joke'..Im unable to tell if you are sarcastic, or nuts.



I'm sure spiritual protection is "spiritual" to you, wouldn't you think the very reason for having this protection is as equally spiritual?

Dont assume to know what is or isnt spiritual for me, or anyone. Many people see protective magic as very practical, akin to locking a door or a window.

[anomalous]

HA! Guys, listen to yourselves, you are people who are supposed to be walking between two worlds here. I.E here and the spirit realm, if you guys have trouble comprehending the fact spells can cause problems for people your just opinionated about spiritualism, I'm not here saying i like this being the case and in the case its a nasty truth. If i had the luxury of putting categories on what was spiritual or not I'd be quite happy.

But if you've underwent some of the spiritual training is was a party too, the amounts of ceremonies and rituals to bring my spirit the state that it is, and then when walk down the street and see a nasty elemental warped around this gorgeous blonds sex organs and some nasty toothless bad smelling rastafarian looking man with his arm around her you begin to change your ideals. I've dealt with love spells, they usually force the person to have sex with the other person if they fight it the spell ends up killing them and example of this I've seen was cervical cancer, the other one which was my mother had a stroke WHICH a medicine man actually fixed ...

Yes i was joking about witches being burnt, this happen to a lot of my ancestors and forced my bloodlines in to hiding. So learn to take a joke is all i can say.

[WolfPup522]

Yes i was joking about witches being burnt, this happen to a lot of my ancestors and forced my bloodlines in to hiding. So learn to take a joke is all i can say.

It's pretty obvious that you can't convey emotion without help when writing. That's why they created smilies. So learn to tell a joke is all I can say. :smileroll

[~Belladonna~]

So learn to tell a joke is all I can say. :smileroll

:rollingla

[Aidron]

The Tarot is supposed to be used for divination and guidence, not fortune telling... I am seriously skeptical that there could be a spell or curse preventing your friend from finding her soul mate...

I call bullshit on this.

The tarot is supposed to be utilized however the reader wishes. It's their skill, their deck, end of story. And this whole fortune telling stigma is really starting to grate on my nerves. What do you people think it is? You tell people their mis/fortunes. Divination, zing! Sure, it doesn't always relate to mis/fortune, but it can and often does in some circumstances. Seriously, this fortune telling stigma... it needs to end. Even bloody so-called professionals cling to it. It's as bad as that whole "Satanists can't be Witches!" nonsense that was so prevalent years ago. It's a freakin' skill, if you want to limit yourself, fine. Me, I'll fortune tell all of ya.

As for this spell... maybe it's true, maybe it's not. I wouldn't hesitate to tell someone a curse was placed upon them. However, if she received no more information than that, it's bogus. You can't drop a bomb on someone and not offer some insight or solution and expect them not to freak out. If you want to charge for the removal of said curses, fine. It's your ability and you can use it how you wish. Although if you start racking up a large bank account over this, I smell a con artist at work.

Oh, and to the person who lives in a very spiritual community full of people throwing spells at each other all the time... shu-eesh. That's not spirituality. That's plain gang wars with a Pagan twist.

[anomalous]

Oh, and to the person who lives in a very spiritual community full of people throwing spells at each other all the time... shu-eesh. That's not spirituality. That's plain gang wars with a Pagan twist.

It is gang wars indeed, hierarchy and all, a town of about 50,000 with 8 witches covens ... Does it give them a better life? oh hell no, in my view its like a big bullet between the toes.

Spirituality is perception of the infinite, that infinite encapsulates ALL that is for you and isn't, everything that is spiritual is as much as it is also as it isn't.

Of course yes ... your right we all pick and chose as to what we chose to follow just that all of us don't follow what you choose to follow so for others they chosen what you haven't picked to choose :)

Never make acceptions for what is outside of your own perceptions, that weakens your ability to protect yourself.

[aranarose]

I call bullshit on this.

The tarot is supposed to be utilized however the reader wishes. It's their skill, their deck, end of story. And this whole fortune telling stigma is really starting to grate on my nerves. What do you people think it is? You tell people their mis/fortunes. Divination, zing! Sure, it doesn't always relate to mis/fortune, but it can and often does in some circumstances. Seriously, this fortune telling stigma... it needs to end. Even bloody so-called professionals cling to it. It's as bad as that whole "Satanists can't be Witches!" nonsense that was so prevalent years ago. It's a freakin' skill, if you want to limit yourself, fine. Me, I'll fortune tell all of ya.

As for this spell... maybe it's true, maybe it's not. I wouldn't hesitate to tell someone a curse was placed upon them. However, if she received no more information than that, it's bogus. You can't drop a bomb on someone and not offer some insight or solution and expect them not to freak out. If you want to charge for the removal of said curses, fine. It's your ability and you can use it how you wish. Although if you start racking up a large bank account over this, I smell a con artist at work.

Oh, and to the person who lives in a very spiritual community full of people throwing spells at each other all the time... shu-eesh. That's not spirituality. That's plain gang wars with a Pagan twist.

I proudly admit that I'm a fortune-teller, because I am. I tell past, present, and potential future, and get paid for it. I also sell spells, though if someone requests a curse removal, several readings are done first to determine if it's really a curse, or just the person being an idiot.

[Xander67]

I call bullshit on this.

The tarot is supposed to be utilized however the reader wishes. It's their skill, their deck, end of story.

as you wish,

Yes, I concede that the oracle can and often is used for spellworking and purposes other than intended for..

A simple research on the key of corespondences and how each of the 22 major arcana corespond to the apropriate hebrew letters ..
qabalistic use of the tarot is serious work and you really need to know what you are doing...

but that is niether here nor there, the topic of this thread was that of a querrent who was possibly flim flamed by a possible charlitan..

whenever a reader tells thier client that they have a supposed curse on them, it is usually followed by the standard "i can remove it for you for a price" it is very common ..

as for the spell in question, (curse) my opinion is that it is very difficult if at all possible to put a curse of that nature on someone.. simply because of the universal laws... universal law always wins out in the end..

you tamper with the mechanics of the universe and you had better know what you are doing.

bloodlines, gang wars, this is all serious stuff... people do get hurt.

[Xander67]

I proudly admit that I'm a fortune-teller, because I am. I tell past, present, and potential future, and get paid for it. I also sell spells, though if someone requests a curse removal, several readings are done first to determine if it's really a curse, or just the person being an idiot.

:wave:

then you know where I was going with my posting lol..
it is easy to take advantage of a querent and prey on thier vulerabiltiy... people who have troubles finding a life mate are prime pickings for the ole "you have a curse on you preventing you from finding love" scam...

I think that this person was being scammed...

[aranarose]

:wave:

then you know where I was going with my posting lol..
it is easy to take advantage of a querent and prey on thier vulerabiltiy... people who have troubles finding a life mate are prime pickings for the ole "you have a curse on you preventing you from finding love" scam...

I think that this person was being scammed...

Definitely. For one, I don't necessarily believe that there is one perfect soul mate out there for everyone. If I did, I'd be screwed, because I thought I married mine and that one's not working out so well...

Curses, in and of themselves, are relatively simple. But those simple curses are minor nuisances, bad luck sorts of things. To curse someone to the point that they could not meet their soul mate? I don't even want to know what the repercussions, both physical and spiritual, of that curse would be on the one casting it. I curse, but very rarely, because there are consequences, and the bigger the curse, the bigger the consequences. Sure, if the curse is justified, you will have suffered the consequences prior to the curse, we experience time as linear, that doesn't mean spirit or magic does. But there are always consequences. I don't believe in ths x3 crap, I think it's one to one, universe reacting to your actions. And I don't think it's deliberate punishment, just reaction. But the reaction to negative is more negative, period, and a curse of the strength to prevent someone from meeting their soul mate is so foul as to potentially destroy the person making the curse.

[HedwigHarfang]

My friend recently got a reading from 2 different readers and both of them told her that there was a spell over her that is keeping her from finding her soul mate. What do you guys make of this? Do you think there is a curse on her? If so does anyone have a spell to get rid of this? Any help is appreciated. Thanks.

My own spin on this is that she are being kept apart from your soul-mate for a reason. There are a lot of high-powered curses around which cannot be undone on people with soul-mates, because most people don't have them at this point in time. The people with them are either kept apart from them for safety's sake or are guided by them for this life. Louise and I were apart for a long time and are forty years apart in age partly to keep her safe because of who I am and partly because of disparate experiences in our former life together last time round.

Looking at my own reading for this I would say your friend is not cursed, just fated never to meet. The "turf wars" prove that pagans are no better than others often but I do think that it is possible to rise above this by remembering that it is evil intent that makes the difference, rather than silliness or rivalry or high spirits. Here the "curse" is on something bigger than any mortal jinx or hex because it is governed by circumstances and global trends; soul-mates are not safe at the moment because of malign energies in geopolitics but once the Earth is safely through this transition period - into the Age of Aquarius after 2060 or so - it should be better for soul-mates to manifest/incarnate together. I think your friend''s soul-mate is in the world but it does actually mean that your friend will never meet them.

One thing - soul mates are not "found" by ordinary means. If we are meant to be together, like Louise and I were, they will cross paths eventually. If you think you have found your soul-mate, or are looking, then you will not find, because it just depends on people being in the right place at the right time. Love is, however, not restricted to soul-mates - your friend needs to love someone because she misses her soul-mate, but this does not mean she is fated never to marry or to meet someone who loves her on a more mundane level. Please let her know she won't find them in this life, regardless of any spell she casts, but on the other hand she must try and find someone "second best" or try to live her own celibate life because even if she did remove the curse somehow it would still be wrong to force them together. Most soul-mates don't know they are meant to be together until they actually meet properly (Louise just thought she admired me a lot and was unusually loyal to me even when I left the leadership; she knew things that she thought were routine for clairvoyants to know but which turned out not to be common knowledge enough for her to be understood by others even in the Conservative Party).

[anomalous]

Alot of assumptions are being thrown around here, we don't know if these people tried to sell this person something more so even if they are capable of spell removal or had any desire to go down that road in the 1st place.

At this stage all we know is that this person went to 2 fortune tellers they said the same thing, maybe an open minded response to it isn't a bad thing.

Until we know the circumstances, I.E one guy tried to sell this person a bottle of snake oil or otherwise, or simply it was like this "hey I've been told you have a spell on you this may be an issue".

The fact the person is "freaking out" is a good indication they were not sold anything or guided further. Doesn't sound like bullshit too me, not yet anyway.

[anomalous]

To curse someone to the point that they could not meet their soul mate? I don't even want to know what the repercussions, both physical and spiritual, of that curse would be on the one casting it.

Nasty nasty buggers, I've seen love spells turn on the target and them kill if they don't play out.

Soul mate, like many offer is a path related thing, depending upon the abilities of the practicer they can bend this path, but thats powerful magic and requires gifts from the old spirit people, usually such talents are only given out to the most responsible of practicers.

[FiresSong]

Yes i was joking about witches being burnt, this happen to a lot of my ancestors and forced my bloodlines in to hiding. So learn to take a joke is all i can say.
And nine million witches died in the Burning Times, right? :T /end sarcasm

As far as this topic is concerned, it's fairly vague. Who told her this? Were these readers friends? Did they have an contact with each other prior to the readings or did she tell either of them she thought she was under a curse?

A little more detail would be swell.

[Lady Moonsong]

I agree...it sounds like a scam. But if your friend wants something she can do on the off chance that something or someone really is 'blocking' her....

Have her get a piece of jade and a piece of rose quartz. This can be jewery if she wants, but just the rocks themselves work very well. Have her pray for her heart to be ready for the love coming her way and for her eyes to be open to recognize love when she see it. Have her hold the stones while she prays and carry them with her for at least a week...pockets or a pouch around the neck is best, but a purse will do. The have her put the stones either on her altar or in a special place in her house that makes her happy...like near the bathtub if she enjoys baths or on a bookshelf if she likes to read, etc. This should help if the curse is coming from her own subconcious or from someone else. And if there is no curse...it still doesn't hurt.

I hope I helped. :)

*hugs*

~Cat

[Garm]

My friend recently got a reading from 2 different readers and both of them told her that there was a spell over her that is keeping her from finding her soul mate. What do you guys make of this? Do you think there is a curse on her? If so does anyone have a spell to get rid of this? Any help is appreciated. Thanks.

The thing that bothers me about this is the assumption that finding you're soulmate is some kind of a norm. I am not sure if there even is such a thing as a soulmate and from what I've heard, finding that ideal relationship is rare

Ahhh, the culture of self entitlement

[Theres]

My friend recently got a reading from 2 different readers and both of them told her that there was a spell over her that is keeping her from finding her soul mate. What do you guys make of this? Do you think there is a curse on her? If so does anyone have a spell to get rid of this? Any help is appreciated. Thanks.
if your friend believes this unequivicably and without any skepticism, then your friend is a twit.

[Meadhbh]

I have my doubts that this is a curse. If anything she could have some sort of blockage that is comming up as a curse by the people doing the reading. But even that probaly isn't the case.