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brymble
November 30th, 2007, 03:04 PM
Has anyone hear heard of/used the Emotional Freedom Technique? I'm in the process of learning it now. One of the other students in my NLP master prac class introduced me to it, and said she uses it on all of her hypnosis clients.

ShamanFeather
December 3rd, 2007, 05:44 PM
I"ve heard of it and had a basic quicky class on it. Basically theres tapping and affirmations right? Its hard to say if I've had any luck with it. I think that it comes down to how much the client believes it will work. It seems like the more open a person is the better things work.

I'd really like to hear about your experiences you have with this.

Lorrie
December 3rd, 2007, 05:53 PM
I am learning it also, I am not having alot of luck, every time I try to do it, my granddaughter thinks I am hurting myself and cries. I have the newsletters, they add up faster than I can read them. I have been using the free one, not the dvd's. U have had slight progress, but need to be able to do it more often. I posted the link for it on the Kick Butts thread for people to try for quitting smoking a while back. I have so many issues that I want to try it on it is difficult to decide what to try first.

Shatril
December 3rd, 2007, 10:26 PM
I used this years ago to stop smoking, and it worked well. However, one must also do the emotional work that goes with this process. I use it today still to calm and stop anxiety.

Good luck with the course.

:hugz: Shatril

brymble
December 4th, 2007, 02:36 PM
it's based on applied kinesiology, not a belief system. it has to do with the body's energy system, not beliefs. the tapping points are meridians. the affirmations are to assist in correcting polarity reversal. the setup can sometimes be skipped, the affirmations aren't always necessary. another part of their purpose is to tune the brain into the problem so that the body's energy is reacting to the problem state, which is what needs the correcting.

in other words, to clear up confusion, it's an energetic technique, not a psychological one, although the body's energy system can affect psychology.

i am fortunate enough to have copies of the dvd's, but have not been able to watch them yet as my computer has not yet been shipped from rochester. i've been reading the newsletter occaisionally, but yeah, they do send a lot of them. i do agree that it is important to read the case studies to widen your experience, although this is of course not as important as actually practicing the technique as part of a healing. reading the case studies is a good way to learn about dealing with aspects, as most problems that are causing noticable disruption in people's lives may be more complex then what can be addressed in just a round or two of the basic recipe.

I think that any technique works best when considered as one tool among many options to help clients, rather than being made to stand alone. EFT works well with NLP, and that's not surprising as Gary Craig was a Master Practioner of NLP before developing EFT. good interventions will use both "away from" and "towards" strategies to improve a problem state. the EFT works well for the "away" part as it tunes into the problem and then resets the system. NLP or more traditional hypnosis can then be used to move the client towards the desired outcome.

Shatril, can you please share your experience using the technique to quit smoking? I've been approached by a potential client who has been smoking for 20 years and has tried several times to quit. What you were saying about needing to do the emotional work kind of reaffirms what I mean by "away from" and "towards" strategies. I think NLP can help this guy move towards his goal, and also help uncover his real motivation for quitting as well as what we call the "positive intent" of the problem behavior, which will address those emotional issues. I'm wondering if EFT can strengthen the rest of the session if used first as an "away" strategy. I'd love to hear from other smokers who quit, so I can understand how to best help my client.

1111
December 6th, 2007, 05:46 PM
Thinking about learning this too. There is a class in April I want to take. I'll watch this thread for more info.

brymble
December 6th, 2007, 06:16 PM
Definately download the manual. It's free, and will give you a head start.

http://www.emofree.com

Lorrie
December 6th, 2007, 09:04 PM
I quit smoking, but not using the EFT. I didn't know about it then or I would have been using it! :fpraise:What I want to use it for is the side effects of quitting. I am now a bundle of nerves with no nicotine to relieve it. :awilly: I am working at finding ways to sue it so the little ones don't get all upset. I am a bit confused why she thinks that little bit of tapping is hurting myself.

1111
December 7th, 2007, 02:51 PM
Definately download the manual. It's free, and will give you a head start.

http://www.emofree.com


Thanks for the link.

1111

Xentor
December 9th, 2007, 07:37 AM
it's based on applied kinesiology, not a belief system. it has to do with the body's energy system, not beliefs. the tapping points are meridians. (...)
in other words, to clear up confusion, it's an energetic technique, not a psychological one, although the body's energy system can affect psychology.

Erm... are you sure you aren't contradicting yourself here? As far as I know, the idea of energy meridians has yet to achieve scientific and medical acceptance. That makes it belief, not medicine.

Apart from that, if it works, I'd like to read some reports.

lamoka
January 24th, 2008, 05:29 AM
Erm... are you sure you aren't contradicting yourself here? As far as I know, the idea of energy meridians has yet to achieve scientific and medical acceptance. That makes it belief, not medicine.

Apart from that, if it works, I'd like to read some reports.
I would offer a kind disagreement here.. have you noticed that most hospitals have accupuncture clinicians now... eft is just another form of accupuncture..
based on energetic meridians..
aho

Xentor
January 24th, 2008, 06:45 AM
Problem with looking at what hospitals implement is the assumption that whatever they implement must also be based on science fact. This is not always the case. Both insurance companies and hospitals also implement procedures because of public demand. Public demand is seldomly based on science fact. The difference between the two motivations is invisible to customers and thus easily confusing.

moonchild
January 24th, 2008, 08:16 AM
I too have just stumble on this technique but haven't had the time to read the manual yet. our library doesn't have the DVD and I'm hesitant in ordering it. I'd like to combine it in my practice with kids and mental health.....

dancinghathors
July 20th, 2008, 07:07 PM
I've been doing EFT for the last few years. The best success I've had with it has been the style of EFT taught by John La Tourrette.

He calls it the Inner Demon Destroyer and the Instant Peak Performance Blow out.

He combines NLP, Donna Eden Energy Medicine with his Energy Psychology and it works the fastest for me.

I've been experimenting with remote influencing with EFT and its been pretty amazing to see it work wonders in my life.

Gypsyballad
July 20th, 2008, 08:36 PM
Hey Dancinghathors, how can we learn more about these types of therapies?

Thank you in advance for your help.

dancinghathors
July 21st, 2008, 11:11 PM
To learn EFT go to emofree.com

I would highly recommend you pick up Donna Eden's books

"Energy Medicine" and "The Promise of Energy Psychology"

I learned John LaTourrette's techniques through his yahoo forums and by joining his elite forums and buying his dvd's.

His website is http://www.mentaltrainingsecrets.com/

and his yahoo forum
is
http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/mindmastery-essentialskills/
http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/healingenergies-essentialskills/

I would look through the archives to find the free versions of the Inner Demon Destroyer Technique as well as the Instant Peak Peak Performance Blow Out.



The forums only really make sense if you have learned EFT, use the Energy Medicine book, practice Silva Mind Control technologies and are familiar with NLP.

Its all worth studying and practicing.

Gypsyballad
July 22nd, 2008, 01:24 AM
Thanks Dancinghathors! :smile:

I know a little about NLP. I was studying a number of years ago, for about three-four months. But most of what I was studying had to do with visualization exercises, which I found difficult. I guess it is something I have to work on. I have also found meditating difficult too. I think I have to find a type of meditation that would work best for me.

I remember working with the NLP and trying to practice an exercise involving picturing a movie screen. But, like I've said, that was years ago. So, I gotta study up on it again!

Thank you so much for your advice, and the links!! I will definitely be taking a look into them! :smile:

dancinghathors
July 22nd, 2008, 02:08 PM
I have had more success doing the Silva Method techniques for meditation. I guess because it's a form of hypnotism with alpha and theta brainwaves. I like Silva Method (or Silva Ultramind) because its meditation with a purpose of creating what I want while my mind is at alpha and theta brainwave levels.

I have found NLP useful for knowing how people think and changing beliefs. Which is helpful when working with Energy Psychology techniques like EFT and TAT (tatlife.com)

Gypsyballad
July 26th, 2008, 03:20 AM
I am definitely thinking of looking into the Silva method. I feel that I am missing out on a lot of things because of my inability, so far, to meditate. I have tried other way to meditate but what may work for someone, may not work for someone else. Perhaps the Silva method may work for me.

Thank you so much for the information, Dancinghathors! :smile:

brymble
July 28th, 2008, 08:31 PM
I have to admit I found the marketing hype surrounding the Silva method to be a real turn-off, although I did find the original book interesting and useful.

Dancnghathors, I'll definately have to check out those links.

Has anyone been to the EFT website recently? They're now requiring certification in order to be listed as an EFT practioner. It's cheaper than my NLP training, at least the Foundation level, but still pricey. What's your opinion on certifying? Is it worth it, for professionals?

dancinghathors
July 29th, 2008, 10:36 PM
Yeah I agree with you about the marketing around Silva Method. I'm not a fan of the marketing but I am a fan of the techniques taught.

I think that the new certification is worth getting and its definately something I would like to work towards in the near future.

Right now I am working though the Energy Psychology Interactive by David Feinstein. Its a great program that combines EFT and Energy Medicine together.