Cryptozoological animals = astral wildlife?

[Lupabitch]

I was talking to a friend of mine the other night about cryptids (such as Big Foot, Nessie, Jersey Devil, etc.). We got onto the topic of what, exactly, they are, especially as they often exhibit a combination of physical and nonphysical traits. The Jersey Devil, for example, attacked someone's dog and caused damage, but then had a cannonball go right through it with no damage. Similar contradictory things have happened with other cryptids.

So the theory that we talked about (which has been discussed by other people previously) is the idea that cryptids are astral wildlife that occasionally "slip" through to the physical plane. The Black River Monster, for example, supposedly only appears during electrical storms, something that could ostensibly be used as a cloaking device to hide its passing (though obviously not well enough for it to remain completely unseen).

Any thoughts on this possibility?

[Tanya]

I think its unlikely, as no known animal has such characteristics.....I imagine most crytids that emerge as real will be very like other animals... in the case of lake monsters for instance.... freshwater seals might be an anwser... many of these critters though are in all probability pure bunk... we haven't found a new large terrestrial animal in about 50 years.. and the chances we would find one in Ohio.. are pretty slim....in the Amazon.. they find a new money every now and then.. but the chances an 8 foot tall monkey species (i.e breeding population of lets say.. 400 individuals) lives in Deleware I would put at the statistically near the low end of infinity

anyone who has ever heard a fisherman talk after a weekend in the woods knows stories about 'near captures' always grow a bit.. and need to be discounted....

When a person sees something they aren't expecting too... they try to place it into the zone of 'things they expect' and this may lead to some confusion when they report it... for instance... I once bumped into a wild boar while hiking in Pa.... they aren't common at all... but certainly a few exist.... I stood there for several seconds watching my dog interact with this highly aggitated and dangerous animal... thinking... stupidly... "Why isn't that other dog acting right...." before it slowly trickled through my brain that not all dog sized quadrapeds are dogs!

and this animal WAS real.. and not outside the realm of possible... and STILL I, a park ranger, was confused because it lacked the CONTEXT I expected (pigs= farms)

Imagine then the confusion a glimpse of an upright bear would cause a suburban home owner.. or the call of a mountain lion (which sounds like a scream) to a person who has never heard nor expected that....


I'm not saying i think all the planet's animals have been discovered.... but I'm sceptical... and adding a layer of Star Treck technology to the mix doesn't lessen it at all..

Occam's razor seems to apply here....

Rather than believeing these animals are 'cloaked" by alien technology or a 'qinking through a parrelle universe to explain why we don't see them.... it seems the simple asnwer is probably.... "They ain't there."

I love the idea of cryptids, I believe some may well exist... but it's important if one wants to be taken seriously that one's desire to believe doesn't lead one to believe everything.

[Lupabitch]

I wasn't talking about odd animals native to this plane. I was speaking of animals native to the astral plane that may occasionally slip through to this plane of reality.

[Tanya]

I was saying,.... "I don't think so"

[HedwigHarfang]

I wasn't talking about odd animals native to this plane. I was speaking of animals native to the astral plane that may occasionally slip through to this plane of reality.

And I say you probably have it about right. I think Nessie can probably be explained as a guardian spirit of Loch Ness, for example, and UFOs as such spirits of the air which are sighted and filmed by people with greater subconscious sensitivity to such ideas.

Some cryptids may just have a prosaic explanation but having second-sight myself I do believe that there are spirits who occasionally push themselves through further into the visual spectrum than is the norm.

PS Lupa, I've PMed you regarding your questions on reincarnation, totems etc because I want to keep everything regarding MW to the PM system if possible.

[David19]

I wasn't talking about odd animals native to this plane. I was speaking of animals native to the astral plane that may occasionally slip through to this plane of reality.

I think that might be right, like I think mythological beings are beings that exist in other realms, e.g. I don't think I'm going to come across one of the many mythological vampires on this plane/realm, but in other supernatural ones, then maybe.

[aluokaloo]

I think some creatures are indeed astral critters, I believe some aren't really there at all, and others particularly deep sea "monsters" might be animals we've never seen before.