Christs' Horoscope

[Dustypuppy]

Has anyone attempted to calculate it and if so do you know any links where I could find it? Also how accurate could it be as no one knows his true birth year -7 BCE is the most widely supported, also the actual day varies from late summer to early spring so covers many a month. Ive heard about the conjunction of Jupiter and Saturn forming 'The Star' and that Jupiter is the planet of kings and Saturn rules the Jews do you know of anything else in his chart that could support who he claimed to be?xx

[ValD]

Can't give you any specifics, but I've seen at least half a dozen different birthcharts for Jesus. They've all supported some idea of the astrologer who drew up the chart; for instance, one chart had all the planets placed in their natural signs and houses (Mars in Aries in the first, and so on) to support that astrologer's belief that Jesus contained all the planets' highest energies (or something like that - I read the article a long time ago).
Since it's not even certain that Jesus existed, let alone when he was born,drawing up a birthchart is a pretty fruitless exercise - you'll never know if it's the correct one.

ETA: Nicolas Campion has written about the planets' significance in Jewish mythology - I'll see if I've got the book in my library.

[PrincessKLS]

I've seen a chart like that before. They suggested he was Piceses, I think that's closer than a Saggitarius.

[Rina]

Wonder what the star the wise men saw was... Has to be a commet. How far back can we measure Hailey's for example?

[banondraig]

Hailey's Comet was discovered not more than 500 years ago. I think it could be traced back fairly accurately as it has a regular orbit.

I don't think "the star" would have been a conjunction of Jupiter and Saturn either, as that happens every twenty years. There was some other planet in the mix around that time but I don't recall which it was.

Comets were usually considered a bad omen in those times, so the likeliest candidate for "the star" would have been a nova or supernova, in my opinion.

[ValD]

Space.com (http://www.space.com/spacewatch/star_bethlehem_021220.html) gives a number of possibilities for the Star of Bethlehem.
But perhaps no other planetary grouping can equal that of the two brightest planets Venus and Jupiter for the explanation that we seek. And if we take the only known account of the Star literally, as given in St. Matthew, then what we really need is the appearance of not just one, but two "stars." The first appearance would have been seen well in advance of the Magis arrival in Bethlehem, and the other at the end of their long journey.

Perhaps the signal for their star was to be a sign in the constellation of Leo, the Lion.

To the early Israelites, Leo was a constellation of great astrological significance and considered a sacred part of the sky. A very close conjunction of Venus and Jupiter would have been visible in the eastern dawn sky of the Middle East from about 3:45 to 5:20 a.m. on Aug. 12, 3 BC.

When they first emerged above the eastern horizon, the two planets were separated by only about two-fifths of the Moons apparent diameter or 12 minutes of arc. As a comparison, the separation of the stars Mizar and Alcor in the handle of the Big Dipper is also 12 minutes. Planets this close are very striking, if they don't differ too much in brightness.

Incidentally, St. Matthew wrote that the Magi stated in their meeting with King Herod: "We have seen his Star in the East and have come to worship him." It has never been clear if they saw the star in the eastern sky, or if they saw it from the East. The fact that the Aug. 12, 3 BC conjunction of Venus and Jupiter occurred in the eastern sky and may have also started the Magi on the journey (from the East) to Bethlehem means that both bases are covered with their statement -- reported by St. Matthew -- to King Herod.

Venus ultimately vanished into the glare of the Sun, but Jupiter and Leo remained in the night sky during the next ten months. During this time a number of additional planetary conjunctions took place, all of which would have been of great importance to the priest-astrologers of the time.