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FaeRain
June 29th, 2002, 07:09 PM
Greetings!
I have been up till wee hours of the morning for a week going crazy with ways to get revenge on someone, so I thought maybe I should ask you guys what the ethical thing to do here would be.

Last December, my husband + I signed a lease to purchase agreement with a woman for our previous home + we moved to new house. As soon as she + her partner + kids moved in, she stopped working for two months and didn't pay her deposit or the first month's rent. Shortly after moving in my husband + I separated for 1.5 months, so money for me was even tighter, and getting any from her was like pulling teeth. In May she + her gf decide to move to MD, b/c she had been working as a traveling nurse there. So they get some of their stuff, leave ALL the cleaning and throwing of trash to us...and still fail to send the $65 per week that we had agreed to (and signed/notarized) to pay us the back debt that they owed. They also left a powerbill unpaid which caused our new renter to have to pay if she wants power since we have little to no money lately from having to pay 2 house payments some months. They came back down 3 weeks ago, to get family photo albums that they had left that I had rescued from the dump. At this time E. writes me a check for the previous 2 weeks late payments, folds it up & hands it to me & leaves. I glanced at it quickly, but failed to realize that she had made it worthless by writing one amount in the box and another in the line.

I could go on + on, these are the 2 most manipulative women I have ever met....but the bottom line for me is wanting their negative destructive energy out of my life, and I would like to recoup my money...although they don't have anything to lien on, so the courts arent much help.

Is it unethical to call her employer to notify them of her manic depression? The woman is on several meds and she works as a caregiver to the elderly. They also have 2 boys that I worry about, they were the reason we kept giving them 2nd chances. I also want to do some kind of reflective spell...where any bad energy they send in my direction I can knock it back at them. One of them is knowledgeable about spells to a degree, so I don't want to be taken advantage of in another realm.

Thanks for any thoughts you may have on this....

Peace, love + light ~*~
FaeRain

Rick
June 29th, 2002, 08:31 PM
...#5 (deflecting) or #6 (returning a spell to it's source)...

As I don't believe in karma, I'd have no reservations in cursing these folks... BUT... what would you really gain? And what would they really learn? In my opinion, I think I'd simply try to let it go, chalk it up to experience, have no more dealings with these people... I don't forgive, but I can forget...

FaeRain
June 29th, 2002, 08:50 PM
My first post didn't go thru, or I can't find it, so here goes again...

Last Dec. my husband & I rented our house out to a couple and their 2 boys. E is a nurse and made good money, so we didn't think that paying rent would be an issue, esp. since it was $500 less than what they were paying. Right after they move in, she stops working for 2 months, and never paid the deposit or the 1st months rent. Months of trying to pull money out of her finally came to a close in May, when she agreed (after we took her to court) to pay us $65 weekly until her debt was paid. During this time she had also taken a nursing job in MD...so it was decided that her partner + children would move up there with her. They packed up some of their belongings, left the rest along with a HUGE cleanup job (they trashed our house) and left. Also,they were behind on the power bill so they left that also.

E + C showed up a few weekends ago, she had forgotten her photo albums which I nicely had rescued from the dump-pile. Instead of keeping them until she paid the money, I gave them to her. Before she left she handed me a check which I failed to notice had been written incorrectly, deeming it worthless when we tried to deposit it. A few days later her g/f showed up at the house, where she had left her decrepit truck which had been agreed we would sell and keep the money, and took it. But not before she threw the remaining trash all over the yard. I could go on and on but I won't (sighs of relief abound!).

My question is....what can I do, ethically, to feel justified? I want to call her employer and notify them of her manic depression, and the cocktail of drugs she takes, esp. since she takes care of elderly patients. I wouldn't want her taking care of my g-parents. And I worry about their 2 boys, their home life leaves a lot to be desired. I really need the money they owe us, but have given that up at this point. And I don't want to put negativity out, since I don't want it back on me times 3.

Any suggestions?? Thoughts of revenge have been keeping me up late at night, and that's just not me. I would like to be rid of it and them.

Peace ~*~
FaeRain

Mithrea
June 29th, 2002, 10:22 PM
First of all let me say that I am very sorry for your troubles. :(
That really sucks but there is no reason for you to send out or return more bad energy. That would just be wrong. Nothing you do to "retaliate" will be justified. Feeling the urge for revenge is normal but acting on is immature and can only cause you more harm in the long run. If you were going after your money that would be okay, but to call someone's boss, etc. is just plain wrong no matter how you look at it.

I would suggest that you might do a spell to banish negativity. You can check out Rick's Practical Rune Magic for that. Good Luck :)

cherrywind
June 30th, 2002, 04:06 PM
I think it wouldn't be right to call her current employer, that's just being immature (especially since manic depression is considered a disability and the employer couldn't fire her for simply that, he'd have to actively see that because of that she couldn't perform her job, or so the law says in Canada). However, if you want to do a spell to banish negativity or a spell to regain money I don't see a problem with that.

Or, do what Rick said and just take it as experience gained and leave it at that.

Mithrea
June 30th, 2002, 04:22 PM
Originally posted by cherrywind
I think it wouldn't be right to call her current employer, that's just being immature (especially since manic depression is considered a disability and the employer couldn't fire her for simply that, he'd have to actively see that because of that she couldn't perform her job, or so the law says in Canada). However, if you want to do a spell to banish negativity or a spell to regain money I don't see a problem with that.

Or, do what Rick said and just take it as experience gained and leave it at that.

So also says the law in this country by the way :)

Myst
June 30th, 2002, 09:06 PM
I really feel it is unethical to tell people about the person's manic depression. There are many people who experience that or other disorders and can still live a normal happy life, and can and should be treated the same as others who don't. I also feel telling the new employer this would a) not make you get your money back or rectify the situation in any way and b) possibly make it so the person doesn't have a source of income and thus *CAN'T* pay you back

Personally if anything I would do a mirror spell around yourself so if there is any negative energy it is returned, and possibly a justice spell so that you get your money or the situation is rectified as it should be.

Just my 2 cents :)

FaeRain
July 1st, 2002, 05:52 PM
I would like to apologize for my earlier rants and raves. I have been upset for months about this...and it has had ripple effects throughout various parts of my life.

My father suffers from manic depression also, and I think I have had a lot of issues with him and with her that have just been building to a combustible level. I did not mean to sound insensitive towards people who have to live with that condition. I think what set me off is that she uses it as an excuse to get away with anything, and I had been really generous to them...and to be taken advantage of so blatantly really pissed me off. Again, if I have offended anyone I am sorry. And I wouldn't really call her employer, I just had to vent and was coming up with ways to get even. A childish reflex, I know.

Maybe I should burn the worthless check she gave me and release any negative holdings they have on me... I think I will do that tonight.

Thanks for listening....
FaeRain