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Amilee
December 27th, 2007, 11:12 AM
What does anyone know about well..oh lordy....this sounds so odd...

The Deity of the Middle? (Though, please note that in my dream I called it the God of the Middle...)

I had a dream about this god/ess and I feel very pulled towards well it. I'm sure it was male but it was also VERY femminine and it was one deity not two. It never seperated or anything. I say it was a hermaphrodite for certian.

This deity relied heavily on the protection and belief of mortals because it could never take sides and thus could never protect itself by any means.

It's an entirely, utterly neutral god/ess....so what, who is it?

Help would be appreciated.

Fiamma
December 27th, 2007, 03:43 PM
What does anyone know about well..oh lordy....this sounds so odd...

The Deity of the Middle? (Though, please note that in my dream I called it the God of the Middle...)

I had a dream about this god/ess and I feel very pulled towards well it. I'm sure it was male but it was also VERY femminine and it was one deity not two. It never seperated or anything. I say it was a hermaphrodite for certian.

This deity relied heavily on the protection and belief of mortals because it could never take sides and thus could never protect itself by any means.

It's an entirely, utterly neutral god/ess....so what, who is it?

Help would be appreciated.

Errrr....I've never heard of such a thing...anywhere.

The androgynous quality could relate to a number of deities that I know of, but none of them are "neutral" in the sense that you're speaking of.

Meadhbh
December 27th, 2007, 03:59 PM
You may want to look earth deities. In a lot of cultures there is the underworld of the ancestors and the sky world of the gods with earth being in the middle.

Fiamma
December 27th, 2007, 05:16 PM
This deity relied heavily on the protection and belief of mortals because it could never take sides and thus could never protect itself by any means.


The more I think about this, the less it makes sense to me.

I don't by any stretch of the imagination believe that any deities are all-supreme and omniscient...similarly, it makes no sense that a deity could be powerless to take any action, even if it were simply in self-defense.

Is there any chance it wasn't a deity, but maybe some sort of spirit?

Toby Stimpson
December 27th, 2007, 06:18 PM
Who says its a Deity at all? Could it be something... else. Could it be soemthing your mind made up? Could it be a spirit form? Could it be a combination of parts of you?

Your description is a little vague... but what makes you think it's a God?

I mean Ardhanarishvara comes to mind which is a form of Shakti and Shiva. But what makes you think it's a God at all?

Fiamma
December 27th, 2007, 06:21 PM
Who says its a Deity at all? Could it be something... else. Could it be soemthing your mind made up? Could it be a spirit form? Could it be a combination of parts of you?

Your description is a little vague... but what makes you think it's a God?

I mean Ardhanarishvara comes to mind which is a form of Shakti and Shiva. But what makes you think it's a God at all?

Yeah, I was sorta thinking that too. Maybe it was just a really strong dream.

My personal thought, based on what I have to go on is that nothing here indicates any reason to believe it's a deity.

Amilee
December 27th, 2007, 06:22 PM
It might not be a god you're right. But in my dream I called it a god. It was just odd the way that everything was so blurry and then the deity type figure was so painstakingly clear.

I'm sure it was there for a reason and not somthing my mind made up...Though I do have a very active imagination..

I just can't stop thinking about it.

It was hard to describe because all I could tell you is that it looked femminine AND masculine at the same time. There were no set features...

ARGH.

Yeah...Maybe not a god but then what? My imagination?

Fiamma
December 27th, 2007, 06:30 PM
Yeah...Maybe not a god but then what? My imagination?

It's entirely possible that it really was just a dream, something that your brain cooked up while you slept.

Or maybe it was some sort of spirit, or personal guide, or a part of yourself. Perhaps you will dream it again and find more. Or perhaps it will dissipate into the aether.

Have you tried meditating on it to see if anything more came of it? My therapist once suggested going back to the dream in meditation and trying to talk to anyone or anyhitng of significance- or even just the background...talk to the furniture, trees, walls, and see if they have anything to tell you about it.

Or you could just wait and see if you dream it again.

Either way, only you can find out for sure.

Silverfire Darkmoon
December 27th, 2007, 07:00 PM
That would be Gilean, God of the balance.
But then, I'm a Takhisis man, myself.

MonSno_LeeDra
December 27th, 2007, 07:06 PM
One thing you might consider is a creator god. In that capacity thier is a strong chance of a hermaphrodite or androgyns type being. Being a creator god also gives the potential of a true neutral god that can not defend themselves for it would upset the true balance of thier neutrality.

It may even be an elder god that is now a composite of many. By looking at the facets that stand out you may be able to pick out the parts that where joined and the original god figure.

I can't tell you why for sure but I get the sense of an Egyptain pre-god figure or a Oriental type pre figure. It almost sounds like one of the Happy Gods of Oriental origin.

skilly-nilly
December 28th, 2007, 10:23 AM
What does anyone know about well..oh lordy....this sounds so odd...

The Deity of the Middle? (Though, please note that in my dream I called it the God of the Middle...)

I had a dream about this god/ess and I feel very pulled towards well it. I'm sure it was male but it was also VERY femminine and it was one deity not two. It never seperated or anything. I say it was a hermaphrodite for certian.

This deity relied heavily on the protection and belief of mortals because it could never take sides and thus could never protect itself by any means.

It's an entirely, utterly neutral god/ess....so what, who is it?

Help would be appreciated.

My beliefs strongly include the option that a God/dess can contact you (the general you--you and all the other yous there are) for the first time. That is, a 'new' Deity can initiate contact or you can 'imagine' or 'make up' a Deity.

So your actual question--Who is this God/dess Who contacted me? --isn't really as meaningful as might be. If there's no historical precedent for the Deity then you just have to work it out from the beginning with the Deity.
Although googling 'the hermaphrodite god' gets both a Greek and a Hindu result--do images too, it's fun.

But what I was impressed with was the information you got in your dream. The concept of never taking sides is very powerful. I also found that "could never protect itself by any means" really resonated with me as well; the concept of having power and not using it is fascinating to me.

I think that trying to get back into contact would be rewarding.

Amilee
December 28th, 2007, 09:34 PM
Well I'm going to take everything here with a grain of salt. I'll try to meditate on it and any recommended techniques would be lovely since I'm not exactly an expert on the meditation thing.

I'll look into creator gods and try to find some sort of signifigance.

I don't know why my mind would dream up such an interesting god so I'm going to, for now, say that a spirit or even a diety has tried to contact me and look into it the best I can.

If anyone gets any more information please let me know! This is really interesting!

Amilee
December 29th, 2007, 11:38 AM
Just a quick update. Because of my close relations to the Greek Pathelons I have been led to believe that it was indeed Hermaphroditus who I saw in my dream. Several readings have stated the following.

Hermaphroditus is depicted as a childlike, very physically weak god who is able to heal humans but apparently unable to heal him/herself. It isn't made clear if this pathological weakness has anything to do with Hermaphroditus' intersexed condition.

Also, upon a little meditation I recalled details of the god him/herself wherin I noticed blonde hair and as I said before feminine body feature.

Well Hermaphroditus also has blond hair and feminine form...

Hermaphroditus was the love-child of Hermes and Aphrodite

The story can be found here:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hermaphroditus

More information can be found in these links, though Wiki has the most compiled information.

http://www.theoi.com/Ouranios/ErosHermaphroditos.html

http://www.mlahanas.de/Greeks/Mythology/Hermaphroditus.html

Odd that I had no knowledge what so ever of this god and yet, here he/she is, just like in my dream.

Opinions? Thoughts?

Labrynth
December 29th, 2007, 05:38 PM
To be honest that was the first god i thought of when i read your description but i thought for some reason you had mentioned him already so i didn't post =P
I would agree it would be Hermaphroditos, but essentially in the end its you and your connection with them hun trying to contact them more would probably provide more insight about it.:woot:

David19
December 29th, 2007, 08:33 PM
I'm going to agree with skilly_nilly, it doesn't have to be an historical deity, it could be a new deity that wants to make contact with you, IMO, there are an infinite amount of Gods, some have nothing to do with this realm and only come when there is a need, or when they want to establish contact.

Like others have said, try and meditate and maybe make a type of prayer to this new God to appear in your dreams again ('cause, IMO, the dream world can be a great place to meet with Gods and other spirits, not just messages from the unconscious or subconscious, but with real beings, think of it like a 1/2 way point between our realm and the divine realms).

If you're any good with divination, try and see if you can use that to determine who this God was or whether or not it was a God.

I can't think of any more ideas, but I hope this has helped you and good luck :).

And remember, it doesn't have to be a historical deity that was worshipped, it could be an new one too, and that doesn't invalidate the experience any less (it'll be important and meaningful to you and that's what matters).

Amilee
December 30th, 2007, 02:49 AM
Thanks everyone. I think I'll write up some prayers and have a few discussions with this god. I'm about 80% sure that it's Hermaphroditos but it may be somthing more...

I'll update you all when I get somthing new!

This is so enlightning!