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debnmike
January 3rd, 2008, 07:59 PM
Mike and I have been members here for a while...we don't post as often as we'd like, but right now we need everyone to jump in.

We aren't "novices" or "fluffies" by any means, but we are extremely careful about the spells we cast regarding other people. Because of this, we aren't really sure how to proceed. Right now, we are facing a very very bad situation and need a binding spell to keep somebody not only from hurting my kids but from leaving the state. Again, Mike and I have never done anything like this, so if anybody has something that could help ASAP we'd really appreciate it.

Please let us know of anything we can do. We are in need of help right now.

Thanks everybody.......PM us if you prefer.

debnmike

BlueSage
January 3rd, 2008, 08:02 PM
i'll certainly send a blessing of protection your way.

Shawn Blackwolf
January 3rd, 2008, 08:05 PM
Do you have a sandal , or shoe , of this person ?

Do you know were they walk regularly ?

Footprint ?

Any possessions at all , at your access ?

Hair , nails ?

Dna of any type ?

Philosophia
January 3rd, 2008, 08:08 PM
I sent a PM to you of some rituals I have found and one I've used before. Sending you strength, protective, and comforting energy! :hugz:

debnmike
January 3rd, 2008, 08:08 PM
BlueSage,
I actually feel badly right now because Mike and I don't post much anymore. We were pretty active here about a year ago, but it's been a pretty busy year and we haven't had the opportunity to do so like we did then.

Thank you for your energy. It's funny, because we all know how "life gets in the way", yet when Mike and I were talking earlier about needing help, this was the first place I thought of. This is where it happens.

Thanks again, BlueSage. We need all the positive energy we can get right now.

debnmike

debnmike
January 3rd, 2008, 08:12 PM
Shawn, trust me....there's NOTHING of this person (other than my children) that I have anymore. The only thing I have are some pictures of him that are hanging on my sons wall in his room.

That's why I was unsure about the binding thing. I don't have anything of his anymore and wanted to know the best way to handle this.

debnmike

BlueSage
January 3rd, 2008, 08:15 PM
how about some earthing some quartz crystals? they are pretty cheap (in cost) and you can do a "ward off evil spirits and entities who enter here to harm" spell and i'm quite sure that will help you in any endeavor. :)

my spirit guide says "yep. spot on." xD (she hardly ever is vocal but...she talked! lol....)

Teresa
January 3rd, 2008, 08:16 PM
Do you have a sandal , or shoe , of this person ?

Do you know were they walk regularly ?

Footprint ?

Any possessions at all , at your access ?

Hair , nails ?

Dna of any type ?

Shawn,
I like your train of thought and that is the route my mind is taking as well !

Soiled clothing worn by the person{dirty socks, shirt, undies, gloves, cap etc}, cigarette butt they have smoked from etc, would work too.

Brightshores
January 3rd, 2008, 08:17 PM
I don't have a whole lot of substantive advice - all I've done in this vein is burned candles while praying to my Gods for protection (It worked for me, but it was a very different situation). But, I wanted to offer you support and hugs. :hugz: We miss you around here! Best wishes to both of you and your kids...

debnmike
January 3rd, 2008, 08:19 PM
I sent a PM to you of some rituals I have found and one I've used before. Sending you strength, protective, and comforting energy! :hugz:

You may not remember me, but you and I used to frequent the same posts a while back (I'll send you a PM and remind you :hahugh:).

I truly appreciate your help. More than you know.

My ex husband has quit his job (read: no more child support) and is moving to Vegas (because he's a dumbass and thinks that's a GOOD idea). Apparently he's telling my kids this info tomorrow (leaving out the "quitting job" part).

There's a lot of non-payment/no-visitation history here with him, and I have to keep him here in Florida long enough for our tax refund to come in so I can afford a lawyer.

When I think about what happens tomorrow (it's his weekend this weekend), it makes me feel literally ill. He is going to devastate my kids tomorrow and I can't stop that.

Thank you for the energy---we need all we can get right now.

debnmike

BlackLili
January 3rd, 2008, 08:21 PM
Sometimes, if you don't have a personal item that belonged to the person, pictures or even a detailed street map with their last known location can help direct your intent. Belongings are the closest items, sympathetically speaking, but it sounds like your desire and intent may be by themselves potent enough to do the job.

PM sent.

Teresa
January 3rd, 2008, 08:23 PM
Try a freezer spell. Put him on ice for a little while until you get your tax refund.

debnmike
January 3rd, 2008, 08:23 PM
I don't have a whole lot of substantive advice - all I've done in this vein is burned candles while praying to my Gods for protection (It worked for me, but it was a very different situation). But, I wanted to offer you support and hugs. :hugz: We miss you around here! Best wishes to both of you and your kids...

Bright!!! Oh my goodness I've missed you! It's so wonderfull to hear from you again. Like I said, it's been a really busy rough year and we haven't been able to post for a long time but I'm sure glad to see you again!

debnmike

Shawn Blackwolf
January 3rd, 2008, 08:34 PM
Thank you , Shalaye...

Deb...Black Lili is correct...and Shalaye 's idea ,
would work , as well...perhaps a combination here...

Photo , map , board , nail , freezer bag...

Nail photo to map , pinpointing your town...place in freezer bag...

Freeze the whole thing...oh , tie red cord , around the bag...

And...oh , I am devious...see if one of the kids can ask him for
something to remember him...even his hair , or an article of
clothing...

( Oh , Shawn...you bad boy... )...LOL...:rollingla

Teresa
January 3rd, 2008, 08:40 PM
And...oh , I am devious...see if one of the kids can ask him for
something to remember him...even his hair , or an article of
clothing...

( Oh , Shawn...you bad boy... )...LOL...:rollingla

I Love the way you think! We have some things in common !
When you are a Bad Boy, You are brilliant! :smileroll :woot:

Shawn Blackwolf
January 3rd, 2008, 08:43 PM
One day , perhaps we shall meet , Shalaye...

I think we would enjoy that...lol...Blessings...:fpraise:

Brigid Rowan
January 3rd, 2008, 09:00 PM
Shawn and Shalaye offer great ideas...I, too, love the deviousness.

Im sorry you cannot soften the blow for your kids, perhaps a spell over them to help them find stability and safety and security in your love and presence, or some such thing, as it feels right to you.

princeether
January 3rd, 2008, 09:29 PM
If you want rid of him forever, you should use a banishing spell, a binding spell will keep him linked to you, for as long as the spell is working.
Good luck and remember Witches will always help eachother, thats why you returned here ;)

BlackLili
January 3rd, 2008, 09:59 PM
Freezing, for me, has always proved effective. Somehow, I consistently forget to mention it though. ;)

Energy and blessings to you and your family for your justice and peace.

debnmike
January 3rd, 2008, 11:04 PM
One thing I'd forgotten about this board---we all type over each other! :hehehehe:

To all of you who have replied (and sent the awesome Pm's!).....you each have helped me to take a step back and get the "bigger picture".

I think what we are going to do is a temp binding--keeping him here in the state until we can deal with him through the courts. I sure as heck don't want a permanent ANYTHING with him, for obvious reasons.

Mike and I talk about mysticwicks a lot, and we both miss it here. I've changed jobs (I was always the loudmouth, Mike's the "look over the shoulder and say that" kind of person) so I haven't been here much over that past year or so.

Thanks so much to each and every one of you for coming to help us out. You guys are the best...

debnmike

SilverClaw
January 3rd, 2008, 11:08 PM
Hey there debnmike :hugz: not sure if you remember me but I do remember you :D


If I do not have the means or supplies or very little supplies . I use black candles and do a spiral chant to make sure the person never comes near me again or my kids and it has worked well for me.

debnmike
January 3rd, 2008, 11:16 PM
Hey there debnmike :hugz: not sure if you remember me but I do remember you :D


If I do not have the means or supplies or very little supplies . I use black candles and do a spiral chant to make sure the person never comes near me again or my kids and it has worked well for me.

Turth is, I don't want him around ME ever, but he's my children's father and they love him so I want that for THEM. I have to have some type of contact with him for a long time (at minimum until my kids are 18, but that doesn't account for graduations, weddings, births, etc). Really what I want is for him to stay in the state of Florida (and employed, if that's even remotely possible.)

And yes I DO remember you!!

debnmike

Cat
January 4th, 2008, 08:22 AM
You can just get cs from Nevada, you know. You can go through the FOC, there are cs agencies if he doesn't pay...there's a lot of legal, mundane things you can do to get cs.

lamoka
January 4th, 2008, 08:31 AM
you do have his dna... through your children... there is no stronger tie to bind..
although i don't believe we have ever met.. great blessings to you and yours...
aho

Vigdisdotter
January 4th, 2008, 09:38 AM
If you know anything about runes/galdr, then write the person's name on a piece of paper, circle it with a black marker and use a rune at eh cardinal directions around/outside the circle to "bind" your intent to that person.

If you are not familiar with runes then find some other symbols to use.

Lunacie
January 4th, 2008, 09:55 AM
I guess I don't understand why it would be so terrible if you ex did leave the state. I can understand that you don't want him to take the kids with him, and I'd certainly recommend doing something for protection for the kids, but I don't see why you need to stop the ex from moving away himself.

debnmike
January 4th, 2008, 12:50 PM
I guess I don't understand why it would be so terrible if you ex did leave the state. I can understand that you don't want him to take the kids with him, and I'd certainly recommend doing something for protection for the kids, but I don't see why you need to stop the ex from moving away himself.

There are a bunch of reasons why I don't want him to leave. First, getting child support has been tough enough as it is--trying to hunt his sorry butt down once he moves clear across the country is going to be really difficult. I'm aware that they have child support laws in Nevada, but he is notorious for not submitting his paperwork to have his cs taken out of his check--usually I have to pull a Magnum PI to find out where he's employed so I can submit the paperwork myself. He's not the most honorable person in the world and certainly not the most honest.

He'd NEVER take the kids with him (that would require him to actually take responsibility for them, and who wants responsibility when you can act like you are just a free-wheelin' bachelor?). It's not even a consideration that they go with him.

My kids (particularly my oldest) are going to be devastated when he tells them he's moving.

We are supposed to go to court in March for a case status update (the DOR is reconsidering the amount he pays in cs--apparently the amount is far too low according to the law).

I guess in a nutshell what I'm afraid of is him just disappearing. I don't have tons of money to shell out to find him and I'm worried that the longer it takes to find him, the longer he doesn't pay child support and I can't afford that AT ALL.

debnmike

Lunacie
January 4th, 2008, 01:01 PM
Whew, I'm glad to hear you're not worried about him snatching the kids.

My ex-son-in-law was very irresponsible about money, and that's the main reason my daughter finally divorced him. She figured she couldn't be any worse off without him, and she wouldn't have the stress of worrying about whether he paid the bills that he said he would pay (including his own student loan). She only asked for $100 a month in child support, and that's for two girls. And he has only paid it once in the three years since the divorce, which is about what she expected.

He does help out with buying clothing and shoes once in a while, and helps with back to school expenses, But that's it. The school provides lunch for the girls. They have HealthWave (government) health insurance. They don't have Nintendo or stuff like that and they don't usually ask for much because they've never expected much, and that's fine with them.

For my daughter, not having to worry about whether their daddy is coughing up the money is worth having to work a little harder herself to provide for them. She claims them both on her tax return - but she would have been willing to have her ex claim one and her claim the other IF he had been consistent with making child support payments.

Your situation may be very different, but I wanted to let you see how my daughter is handling a similar situation.

Rick
January 5th, 2008, 09:19 PM
There are a bunch of reasons why I don't want him to leave. First, getting child support has been tough enough as it is--trying to hunt his sorry butt down once he moves clear across the country is going to be really difficult. I'm aware that they have child support laws in Nevada, but he is notorious for not submitting his paperwork to have his cs taken out of his check--usually I have to pull a Magnum PI to find out where he's employed so I can submit the paperwork myself. He's not the most honorable person in the world and certainly not the most honest.

He'd NEVER take the kids with him (that would require him to actually take responsibility for them, and who wants responsibility when you can act like you are just a free-wheelin' bachelor?). It's not even a consideration that they go with him.

My kids (particularly my oldest) are going to be devastated when he tells them he's moving.

We are supposed to go to court in March for a case status update (the DOR is reconsidering the amount he pays in cs--apparently the amount is far too low according to the law).

I guess in a nutshell what I'm afraid of is him just disappearing. I don't have tons of money to shell out to find him and I'm worried that the longer it takes to find him, the longer he doesn't pay child support and I can't afford that AT ALL.

debnmike
If he is in arrears in child support, regardless of state of residence, the IRS will seize his tax refunds (states do this, as well). Speak to your case worker. If he's been employed, you should be receiving any refunds he's due. You also shouldn't need a private attorney, your state's agency that oversees child support collection should be representing your children in this matter (and you, though they'll say they don't take sides). If that agency is like here in Oklahoma (and probably is very similar), it has it's own courts, judges, & lawyers for just such occasions.

BTW, good to see ya around

SilverClaw
January 6th, 2008, 08:28 AM
Turth is, I don't want him around ME ever, but he's my children's father and they love him so I want that for THEM. I have to have some type of contact with him for a long time (at minimum until my kids are 18, but that doesn't account for graduations, weddings, births, etc). Really what I want is for him to stay in the state of Florida (and employed, if that's even remotely possible.) Well then you can still do what I suggest and word your chant differently.




And yes I DO remember you!!
oh that is good I could not recall if I talked to since my name change or not :)




If you know anything about runes/galdr, then write the person's name on a piece of paper, circle it with a black marker and use a rune at eh cardinal directions around/outside the circle to "bind" your intent to that person.
Hmmm I find the way you mention up there interesting, but when it comes to Runes I find Bind Runes or Scipts easier.