Supporting Mamas

[RainInanna]

I talk to a lot of mamas across the spectrums from extended breastfeeding to formula feeding from day one, attachment parenting to crying it out, staying at home to working away, taking the pediatrician's word as gospel to delayed vax'ing and avoiding well baby visits, and so on.

And you know what? Every single one of them has guilt. They're guilty that they live paycheque to paycheque, that they stay with husbands they never see except for when they fight because he works two jobs to support them, because hubby gets laid off and suddenly they don't know how they will afford groceries. They're guilty because their baby keeps getting sick at daycare, because they work 40 hour weeks and feel crazy trying to balance keeping their house, raising their babies, and getting promoted at work. They're guilty because some stranger bawls them out for not vaxing, or for breastfeeding in public, or for "spoiling the baby".

I am so saddened by this. I feel so terrible for every mama who beats herself up, who gets reamed out, who agonizes over her choice. Where before we had our family close by to help us raise our babies, now we have critics everywhere. Where we had support, we are now attacked.

Please, give a mama (or daddy, or guardian, or grandparent) some support. All it takes is words somedays. Try

"I'm sorry you are feeling so overwhelmed"
"I know you're making the best choice for you"
"You are doing a great job, mama!"
"I understand why you feel that way" or even "really, that's an interesting perspective - could you tell me more?" when you don't understand

I'm not saying stop sharing information or presenting your opinion. I'm saying serve it up with a big serving of compassion, respect, and willingness to understand.

(incidentally, as I said this is a sentiment inspired by many forums and conversations - this is not in response to any specific poster or conversation, and is just my general jump on a soapbox)

[Lunacie]

I recently joined a parenting forum for families of autistic children, and so far the large majority of them are very supportive and encouraging.

We may have had families to help more in the past, before we began moving clear across the country with various jobs, I don't know if familie were always that supportive. I think some families have always been critical. I was lucky that my mother wasn't critical but she wasn't especially supportive either. My mother-in-law was lost in her own world most of the time. My gramma-in-law was a wonderful grandmother (and my role model) but she was often very critical of me.

I'm very supportive of my daughter - but freely admit that I've been very critical of my ex-son-in-law at times.

[Ravenna Angellin]

Thanks for this.

It comes on a day where I spent all of last night thinking back on my choices and feeling helpless because of choices made and things that were done which puts me and my boys in our current situation.

Sometimes its hard being the one to carry it all alone, sometimes its hard not being able to express my frustration, sometimes it's hard being told that I have no right to be angry because it all seems to fall on my shoulders.

So thanks for this. Even though it's not directly aimed towards me... it makes me feel a little better some how.

~ Ravenna

[Tanya]

I was listening to Bruce Springstein this mornign coming in to work singing "A Long Time Comming" its about a guy looking forward to the birth of his kid.... and it just made me so sad.... I don' t think my husband ever put his hand on my tummy and smiled...

I don't think its often talked about how horribly loney being a parent can be.

[Chesna]

I talk to a lot of mamas across the spectrums from extended breastfeeding to formula feeding from day one, attachment parenting to crying it out, staying at home to working away, taking the pediatrician's word as gospel to delayed vax'ing and avoiding well baby visits, and so on.

And you know what? Every single one of them has guilt. They're guilty that they live paycheque to paycheque, that they stay with husbands they never see except for when they fight because he works two jobs to support them, because hubby gets laid off and suddenly they don't know how they will afford groceries. They're guilty because their baby keeps getting sick at daycare, because they work 40 hour weeks and feel crazy trying to balance keeping their house, raising their babies, and getting promoted at work. They're guilty because some stranger bawls them out for not vaxing, or for breastfeeding in public, or for "spoiling the baby".

I am so saddened by this. I feel so terrible for every mama who beats herself up, who gets reamed out, who agonizes over her choice. Where before we had our family close by to help us raise our babies, now we have critics everywhere. Where we had support, we are now attacked.

Please, give a mama (or daddy, or guardian, or grandparent) some support. All it takes is words somedays. Try

"I'm sorry you are feeling so overwhelmed"
"I know you're making the best choice for you"
"You are doing a great job, mama!"
"I understand why you feel that way" or even "really, that's an interesting perspective - could you tell me more?" when you don't understand

I'm not saying stop sharing information or presenting your opinion. I'm saying serve it up with a big serving of compassion, respect, and willingness to understand.

(incidentally, as I said this is a sentiment inspired by many forums and conversations - this is not in response to any specific poster or conversation, and is just my general jump on a soapbox)

_handclapp :fpraise: _handclapp :fpraise:

I have often had thoughts like these and I agree!!
After I felt huge amounts of guilt for making certain choices with my daughter, I told myself that I refuse to feel guilty about ones I make with Liam. And I think I have stuck to it. I am providing for my children and while it may not be in a way others may agree..they can shove it..because I am not harming my children in any way.
So again I say to you: :fpraise: :fpraise: :fpraise::fpraise: _handclapp
VERY WELL SAID!!

Chesna

[Ceres]

I don't think its often talked about how horribly loney being a parent can be.

My first thought when I read Raininannas post was that I wish she were my neighbour because I would love to have coffee with her once in a while. :weirdsmil It IS lonely and we ARE very hard on one another sometimes.

[Sun Sprite]

Reading this makes me think I am sometimes to hard on one of my neighbors. She is a sinlge mother of two adopted children by choice, and the younger needs way more structure than she can provide. Way more than I would be comfortable with for that matter. I think sometimes I try to offer well meaning advice, and maybe she has tried, or thought of those things.

I do enjoy the kids visiting me, in fact they stayed four hours yesterday. So I know that helps some. Though I would far rather be a friend to her, than just to her kids. In fact, I would really like to just visit with her sometime, and enjoy chating, even cook her a meal. Probelm is, they never know when they are going to be home at night, so their dinner could be as early as 4 or as late as 11pm. Working for a private school is far more overtime than I would be comfortable with!

I want to find ways to be more helpful too her that are not too hard on me either.

[RainInanna]

I'm glad some of you see what I do.

That little bit of compassion and desire to support can mean so much, and can even be more helpful then advice or information.

[DreamSpell333]

My first thought when I read Raininannas post was that I wish she were my neighbour because I would love to have coffee with her once in a while. :weirdsmil It IS lonely and we ARE very hard on one another sometimes.

Is can be VERY lonely.

My husband leaves for work at 6am and doesnt get home until 4pm every day. he works till 12 on saturdays (depends on when he finishes his runs) and doesnt usually get home until 1:30 . So Im home alone with the kids most of the time.
We moved back to NH to be closer to family and I still feel isolated sometimes.
I'm working 3 nights a week now too because we need extra money so I dont get to get to spend as much time with my husband.

I found out that one of my neighbors picks up her daughter at 3:00 at hannahs school as well. She gave me and vinny a ride there yesterday to pick hannah up. I was going to bundle him up and walk.. She told me if I ever needed a ride to let her know.. I knew before she went there but since I really didnt know her I was afraid to ask her.. we have a way for hannah to school (bus) and now when my family cant help I have a way to get her home.
Sometimes I feel ashamed that I have to ask others for help. I really wish I was able to do everything on my own. hopefully we can get a 2nd car by next year.

[RainInanna]

Sometimes I feel ashamed that I have to ask others for help. I really wish I was able to do everything on my own. hopefully we can get a 2nd car by next year.

I understand why you feel that way, but I wish I could hug that shame away :) You are a great mama doing the best you can, and you aren't using these people or taking them for granted, just accepting help that's offered. As long as you continue to be grateful I am sure everyone understands. I've come to learn that sometimes letting people help you out is a good way to strengthen the friendship you have with them. People *do* want to help and would probably feel a little offended if you denied them. I understand totally you want to handle it all yourself and I admire that, but please don't beat yourself up too much ok?

[RainInanna]

I was listening to Bruce Springstein this mornign coming in to work singing "A Long Time Comming" its about a guy looking forward to the birth of his kid.... and it just made me so sad.... I don' t think my husband ever put his hand on my tummy and smiled...

I'm sorry your husband didn't respond that way. I find sometimes men instinctively hide what they're feeling and try to remain strong, thinking it would be better for you to think they're tough and can handle it. It's like when they work 80 hour weeks and spend no time with us, then think clearly they've shown their love by working so hard, even if you never get to see them!

I know for us when I've gotten pregnant, due to the miscarriages, we've often been left waiting for the other shoe to drop, and feel like we're walking on eggshells. I wish I was there to talk with you about what happened. I know it helped me a lot to talk with people about my losses, especially when my man couldn't handle it.

[DreamSpell333]

I understand why you feel that way, but I wish I could hug that shame away :) You are a great mama doing the best you can, and you aren't using these people or taking them for granted, just accepting help that's offered. As long as you continue to be grateful I am sure everyone understands. I've come to learn that sometimes letting people help you out is a good way to strengthen the friendship you have with them. People *do* want to help and would probably feel a little offended if you denied them. I understand totally you want to handle it all yourself and I admire that, but please don't beat yourself up too much ok?

Thanks :hugz:

I am very greatful to have help. I've started taking my husband in atleast once a week . My predicament is that dd and dh both have to be picked up at the same time. 3:00, so either way we have to rely on someone.
I looked into after school programs for hannah but her school currently doesnt have any for her age. (kindergarten) They only have a writing class after school for 3rd graders and up.
The ymca has programs at surrounding schools,but not hers. I even emailed them to see if they would be adding her school in the future.

I also asked dh if he could ask him boss to let him out at 2pm every day but he wont ask him,and I doubt that he would allow that.. (He's on salary and has to stay till 3 every day..)

[DreamSpell333]

I'm sorry your husband didn't respond that way. I find sometimes men instinctively hide what they're feeling and try to remain strong, thinking it would be better for you to think they're tough and can handle it. It's like when they work 80 hour weeks and spend no time with us, then think clearly they've shown their love by working so hard, even if you never get to see them!

I know for us when I've gotten pregnant, due to the miscarriages, we've often been left waiting for the other shoe to drop, and feel like we're walking on eggshells. I wish I was there to talk with you about what happened. I know it helped me a lot to talk with people about my losses, especially when my man couldn't handle it.

Thats exactly how my husband was when we lost Olivia. He said he had to be strong, when I was the total opposite. I cried alot,slept alot and kinda kept to myself. The day we came home from the hospital I remember just being in a daze/in shock.
He expected me to be able to get back to my normal routines of housework/washing and drying his work uniform and when I didnt he yelled and got angry.
Thankfully I had a grief couselor and I was able to call her and talk to her and then she spoke to him to explain to him that it would take time for me to get back to 'normal". (although im not sure anything is the way it was before I lost her)
I dont think I will ever really get over losing her.. but life has gotten alittle easier every day.

Im sorry tanya that your husband didnt get more involved in your pregnancy. :hugz:

[Brigid Rowan]

Thats exactly how my husband was when we lost Olivia. He said he had to be strong, when I was the total opposite. I cried alot,slept alot and kinda kept to myself. The day we came home from the hospital I remember just being in a daze/in shock.
He expected me to be able to get back to my normal routines of housework/washing and drying his work uniform and when I didnt he yelled and got angry.
Thankfully I had a grief couselor and I was able to call her and talk to her and then she spoke to him to explain to him that it would take time for me to get back to 'normal". (although im not sure anything is the way it was before I lost her)
I dont think I will ever really get over losing her.. but life has gotten alittle easier every day.



Not that is the same thing, but I was the same when my brother died at age 16...I was numb/in shock, and I dont think I ever went back to normal, who I was -before- he died. I became, hmm, something else, like the loss and shock of it all just changed who I was inside, it made such a deep impact on my very soul, that there was no more "old me" to return to..if that makes any sense. Every day is easier, yes, but its been 14 years, this February since he died, and I still think it affects me every day. In a weird way, it helped me...for a while, I was the nurse that helped deliver babies that were stillborn, or born too early to survive...and while one cant measure or compare grief, it helped me to honestly be able to cry wth the moms and dads, because I remembered the feeling of the initial landslide of pain and shock. I think it made me a better nurse.

If you ever need to talk, Im happy to listen. ~hugs~


As for the rest of the thread, awesome. I agree...As a SAHM I feel guilty for not contributing as a worker bee, for "just watching the kids" all day.

As a stepmom, I get it from my husbands ex...she emails DH nasty, hurtful notes about how Alex isnt happy here, isnt thriving here, etc...all because the judge awarded 50/50 custody and it makes her angry, and she is embarrased and angry she didnt get primary custody...But even though I take care of him, Im still the evil stepmama no matter what. Grrr...

I think I beat myself up, and let others beat me up, way too much. i just cant figure out how to stop.

And it is lonely...by the time I get everyone to school, the baby fed, played with, get him a nap, pick the others up at school, start dinner, check homework...whew...Im too busy to HAVE friends. And that stinks.

[DreamSpell333]

Not that is the same thing, but I was the same when my brother died at age 16...I was numb/in shock, and I dont think I ever went back to normal, who I was -before- he died. I became, hmm, something else, like the loss and shock of it all just changed who I was inside, it made such a deep impact on my very soul, that there was no more "old me" to return to..if that makes any sense. Every day is easier, yes, but its been 14 years, this February since he died, and I still think it affects me every day. In a weird way, it helped me...for a while, I was the nurse that helped deliver babies that were stillborn, or born too early to survive...and while one cant measure or compare grief, it helped me to honestly be able to cry wth the moms and dads, because I remembered the feeling of the initial landslide of pain and shock. I think it made me a better nurse.

If you ever need to talk, Im happy to listen. ~hugs~



Thanks :hugz:

I've noticed that the small stuff affects me more now than before. Before I could just brush them off,but now I get stressed more easily.
Saturday will be Olivias birthday/anniversary of her passing and I know it will be a hard day for me. 2 years have gone by but I still miss her as though we just lost her.

[RainInanna]

I dont think I will ever really get over losing her.. but life has gotten alittle easier every day.

I'm glad you have a grief counsellor. My heart hurts for your loss too.


I think it made me a better nurse.

I think it did too. You understand things in a way that most can't. It is strange to accept something as part of what made us who we are, while wishing it hadn't happened.

But even though I take care of him, Im still the evil stepmama no matter what.

I'm sorry you take a beating for doing the very best. But I'm glad you realize what is REALLY motivating that nasty woman. I wonder why we find it so easy to dwell on the negative stuff; you'd think at least as a survival mechanism we'd realize when we're doing great and people are just yanking our chain, ya know? We tend to forget.

And you have friends here. I know it's not the same :) But we value you here very much.

[RainInanna]

I'm glad you have a grief counsellor. My heart hurts for your loss too.

Sorry wanted to continue by saying I know from my experience sometimes it feels like people don't understand why I grieve my losses. I know losing Olivia was not the same as the ones I lost. I just wanted to say I hope you can grieve the way you need and want to. My mom told me "don't let people tell you to get over it", and she was so right. Don't let people make you think it's silly to feel the way you do. I grieve for Olivia too.

[Brigid Rowan]

So February is hard for both of us..I'll be thinking of you all week, and at least you can know that one person in this world, will be holding you gently in their thoughts.

...honestly....I think I really hate the anniversary of Jason's death more each year, it just reopens my half healed wound. I need to maybe come up with something GOOD and productive to do perhaps, that week. I dont want to forget, but remembering hurts so much sometimes.

..my brother died just a few days after his birthday, so it makes for a hard, long, tough, week. I get edgier, and tense more easily. I really dont enjoy Valentines day at all....every one is all romantic, but he was born Feb 13th, and died the 21st..so yeah, that week is just shot for me. I feel lonely that week. I'd love to take a pill, and wake up march 1st. I remember my ex mother in law saying something rude to me that week about 4 or 5 years ago...and I cried nonstop for days. I become just paper thin to any kind of stress.

At first, I felt bad about taking over the thread...but you know, it isnt off topic...I think the larger topic of the thread really IS about how we as mom's second guess everything, feel bad about not being able to handle it all...and that is what grief for me, has been saddled with. That lonely, why am I not over this yet feeling, the angst that comes from not being back to normal already. I think your mom was very wise, RainInanna, telling you to not feel you must rush your grief. And thank you for saying I have friends here..and it IS the same as er, "real life" friendship, love is love. I just didnt think anyone here really noticed me as Im not "regularly" around like some are. I always figure i fade into the wallpaper..lol...

[Lunacie]

So February is hard for both of us..I'll be thinking of you all week, and at least you can know that one person in this world, will be holding you gently in their thoughts.

...honestly....I think I really hate the anniversary of Jason's death more each year, it just reopens my half healed wound. I need to maybe come up with something GOOD and productive to do perhaps, that week. I dont want to forget, but remembering hurts so much sometimes.

..my brother died just a few days after his birthday, so it makes for a hard, long, tough, week. I get edgier, and tense more easily. I really dont enjoy Valentines day at all....every one is all romantic, but he was born Feb 13th, and died the 21st..so yeah, that week is just shot for me. I feel lonely that week. I'd love to take a pill, and wake up march 1st. I remember my ex mother in law saying something rude to me that week about 4 or 5 years ago...and I cried nonstop for days. I become just paper thin to any kind of stress.

At first, I felt bad about taking over the thread...but you know, it isnt off topic...I think the larger topic of the thread really IS about how we as mom's second guess everything, feel bad about not being able to handle it all...and that is what grief for me, has been saddled with. That lonely, why am I not over this yet feeling, the angst that comes from not being back to normal already. I think your mom was very wise, RainInanna, telling you to not feel you must rush your grief. And thank you for saying I have friends here..and it IS the same as er, "real life" friendship, love is love. I just didnt think anyone here really noticed me as Im not "regularly" around like some are. I always figure i fade into the wallpaper..lol...

Well, I for one have noticed when you are around, I enjoy reading your posts, and would say you are definately a part of this community. :hugz:

[DreamSpell333]

Sorry wanted to continue by saying I know from my experience sometimes it feels like people don't understand why I grieve my losses. I know losing Olivia was not the same as the ones I lost. I just wanted to say I hope you can grieve the way you need and want to. My mom told me "don't let people tell you to get over it", and she was so right. Don't let people make you think it's silly to feel the way you do. I grieve for Olivia too.

Your losses are just as painful hun. :) I totally understand. My cousin lost a few pregnancys and I have supported her and shes always been thankful that I've understood. I also told her even though she lost the babies,I still see her as a mother. She's much older than me so I call her my aunt. She really is like a 2nd mother to me.

My family have been very supportive of me grieving for her and dont criticize me for talking about her. They just smile/listen.
My dh and I have talked about burying her ashes but he isnt ready to say goodbye/ (thats what he told me).
he'd prefer her to be buried with one of us when that time should come...
Thanks :hugz: Makes me feel good that her short life has touched someone elses..

I used to put gifts on her shelf with every holiday but lately havent had much extra money to do so. which I felt guilty for at first,but I know that my love for her if more than enough. :) :hugz:

[DreamSpell333]

So February is hard for both of us..I'll be thinking of you all week, and at least you can know that one person in this world, will be holding you gently in their thoughts.

...honestly....I think I really hate the anniversary of Jason's death more each year, it just reopens my half healed wound. I need to maybe come up with something GOOD and productive to do perhaps, that week. I dont want to forget, but remembering hurts so much sometimes.

..my brother died just a few days after his birthday, so it makes for a hard, long, tough, week. I get edgier, and tense more easily. I really dont enjoy Valentines day at all....every one is all romantic, but he was born Feb 13th, and died the 21st..so yeah, that week is just shot for me. I feel lonely that week. I'd love to take a pill, and wake up march 1st. I remember my ex mother in law saying something rude to me that week about 4 or 5 years ago...and I cried nonstop for days. I become just paper thin to any kind of stress.

At first, I felt bad about taking over the thread...but you know, it isnt off topic...I think the larger topic of the thread really IS about how we as mom's second guess everything, feel bad about not being able to handle it all...and that is what grief for me, has been saddled with. That lonely, why am I not over this yet feeling, the angst that comes from not being back to normal already. I think your mom was very wise, RainInanna, telling you to not feel you must rush your grief. And thank you for saying I have friends here..and it IS the same as er, "real life" friendship, love is love. I just didnt think anyone here really noticed me as Im not "regularly" around like some are. I always figure i fade into the wallpaper..lol...

i'll be thinking of you as well. :hugz: You are definitely a part of this community. I also enjoy reading your posts. (also love your sn! :D)
Group hug!! :huddle:

[RainInanna]

I just didnt think anyone here really noticed me as Im not "regularly" around like some are. I always figure i fade into the wallpaper..lol...

Oh completely opposite. When I see your name come up for new posts I always have to see what you've got to say. If anything even if you post less it's because when you do you have something very valuable to say. Not like me, I just babble incessantly somedays ;)

[Brigid Rowan]

i'll be thinking of you as well. :hugz: You are definitely a part of this community. I also enjoy reading your posts. (also love your sn! :D)
Group hug!! :huddle:

Oh completely opposite. When I see your name come up for new posts I always have to see what you've got to say. If anything even if you post less it's because when you do you have something very valuable to say. Not like me, I just babble incessantly somedays ;)

Awww, crud, now you've got me all like...blushing and smiling and stuff...And I needed it, this week has been BAD. Long story short, I caught the stomach illness from the kids (nursed and cared for them through it, only to catch it in the end, gotta love being Mom...), and havent been out of bed since sunday night. Im gross, i feel gross, and Ive had nothing but ginger ale and rice for days. (I am, however, 5 pounds lighter. But its a bad diet plan, I gotta say. Effective, but brutal.). But really, Im gross and pale and feeling rather yucky. So thank you all for the love and affection. First time Ive smiled since sunday is now, really!!!:smile:

[Ravenna Angellin]

Thats exactly how my husband was when we lost Olivia. He said he had to be strong, when I was the total opposite. I cried alot,slept alot and kinda kept to myself. The day we came home from the hospital I remember just being in a daze/in shock.
He expected me to be able to get back to my normal routines of housework/washing and drying his work uniform and when I didnt he yelled and got angry.
Thankfully I had a grief couselor and I was able to call her and talk to her and then she spoke to him to explain to him that it would take time for me to get back to 'normal". (although im not sure anything is the way it was before I lost her)
I dont think I will ever really get over losing her.. but life has gotten alittle easier every day.

Im sorry tanya that your husband didnt get more involved in your pregnancy. :hugz:


Sounds like February is a hard month for a few of us here. First we lost our best friend James 2/16/2001 to a freak car crash, then in 2005 we lost my grandfather to terminal brain cancer on 2/7... and just a few days later on the 12th, we lost my dear friend Lina to a bad drug reaction. 2 days after that Finn was born. Talk about an emotional time.

I still hurt over your loss of Olivia, and it even hits home a bit hard for me because my best friend lost her little boy Braelin at 20 weeks. I remember feeling numb with her, and being in shock. I remember visiting her at the hospital and being angry that she was still in the maternity ward surrounded by all the other mothers with their babies. I also remember her telling me not to cry that she was "over it already" I called BS on her and we cried together. It's been 2 years, and she still hasn't gotten over it. Plus, the damage done from the premature labor and the bleeding has made it next to impossible for her to try again. It's not quite the same as losing your Olivia, but no matter what, I still hurt for you.

We Mommas (daddy's, grandma's, aunties) rock! We do more than our fair share of the load an awful lot of the time with nary a complaint. We've raised beautiful children, who are happy, intelligent and sometimes more than a little mischievous. We don't get sick days or paid time off, but our pay is more than adequate in the end isn't it?

Here! Here! For the Mamas (and Papas and Others!) of Mysticwicks!!

~ Ravenna

[Ceres]

My mom told me "don't let people tell you to get over it", and she was so right.

I think I love your mom!

[DreamSpell333]

Im sooo tired today. When do you get to actually sleep in?? Vinny was awake at 5:15am this morning and layed back down at 6am for an hour. I had to work till 11pm last night.
**Need Coffee** :collapse:

[Brigid Rowan]

That was one reason we decided it was best for the family for me to stop work, I was doing evening shift (which technically ends at 11pm, but never -really- does, plus with driving home, it was always more like 1230 by the time I got home, and I always showered, cos working in a hospital is pretty much a gross, dirty environment. Lol..) But anywho...I'd get to bed 1245-1am, and the kids had to be up for school by 630ish...I was TIRED. It was really hard pregnant, nigh impossible with a new baby. I took a lot of naps...

~hugs~ Hope you get a long block to rest in, who knows, maybe Vinnie will want a 2 hour nap around 11ish? My friend Eldawyn and i used to joke about finding a "Patron God of Naps" to leave candles lit, in hopes our babies would nap well on paticularly tired-days.

[DreamSpell333]

That was one reason we decided it was best for the family for me to stop work, I was doing evening shift (which technically ends at 11pm, but never -really- does, plus with driving home, it was always more like 1230 by the time I got home, and I always showered, cos working in a hospital is pretty much a gross, dirty environment. Lol..) But anywho...I'd get to bed 1245-1am, and the kids had to be up for school by 630ish...I was TIRED. It was really hard pregnant, nigh impossible with a new baby. I took a lot of naps...

~hugs~ Hope you get a long block to rest in, who knows, maybe Vinnie will want a 2 hour nap around 11ish? My friend Eldawyn and i used to joke about finding a "Patron God of Naps" to leave candles lit, in hopes our babies would nap well on paticularly tired-days.

I am only 5 minutes away from my work is great. :) If we didnt need the extra income I would be staying home. Me working is the only way the car is getting fixed. It'll help with grocerys also..
Im waiting till after hannah gets on the bus to lay vinny down. I dont like laying him down and then taking her to the bus even if he is asleep. I think the cold air will help tire him too. :)