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obie
February 9th, 2008, 02:52 PM
What do you all feel towards God? Personally, I simply do not like him. Is this normal? Do others sometime feel a dislike towards God? I just dont like the way he is completely on a power trip wanting ppl to do exactly as he wants them to. Doling out tough lives and punishing ppl for small infringements. What are your thoughts on him?
Aidron
February 9th, 2008, 02:57 PM
What do you all feel towards God? Personally, I simply do not like him. Is this normal? Do others sometime feel a dislike towards God? I just dont like the way he is completely on a power trip wanting ppl to do exactly as he wants them to. Doling out tough lives and punishing ppl for small infringements. What are your thoughts on him?
God? Him? Which god are you referring to, exactly? :eyebrow:
Agaliha
February 9th, 2008, 03:01 PM
God? Him? Which god are you referring to, exactly? :eyebrow:
That's basically what I asked before the the internet disconnected for a second. :2G:
What god? There are many, many gods-- goddesses too, which are sometimes lumped into the term "god."
Are you referring to the Judeo-Christian view of god or something else? Keep in mind that there are not only countless gods, but also views of them.
Eternal Night
February 9th, 2008, 03:02 PM
If you're referring to the Christian God..well my thoughts on him are the same as all the others he and them aren't real........
Eternal Night
February 9th, 2008, 03:04 PM
God? Him? Which god are you referring to, exactly? :eyebrow:
Better not mean Kai Hansen....:meanface:
obie
February 9th, 2008, 03:24 PM
The judeo christian god
RainInanna
February 9th, 2008, 03:27 PM
I feel he's probably fairly annoyed at some of his followers. Or just wants to slap them for being idiots. Probably thinking "don't make me come down there!!!"
Aidron
February 9th, 2008, 03:28 PM
The judeo christian god
Right, well in that case here are my summarized feelings on him:
Could. Not. Care. Less.
Eternal Night
February 9th, 2008, 03:29 PM
Right, well in that case here are my summarized feelings on him:
Could. Not. Care. Less.
:rollingla Teh proper awesome!
Thankgoodness it wasn't Kai I was gonna kick sum arse then! :hehehehe:
Aidron
February 9th, 2008, 03:31 PM
:rollingla Teh proper awesome!
Thankgoodness it wasn't Kai I was gonna kick sum arse then! :hehehehe:
I do not even know who that is. :p
And I never concern myself with the gods of other people. They are their gods, not mine. Let them worry about their own gods.
Eternal Night
February 9th, 2008, 03:38 PM
I do not even know who that is. :p
And I never concern myself with the gods of other people. They are their gods, not mine. Let them worry about their own gods.
BEHOLD THE HOLY ONE..........
(ANGELS START SINGING)
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Xentor
February 9th, 2008, 04:19 PM
What do you all feel towards God? Personally, I simply do not like him. Is this normal? Do others sometime feel a dislike towards God? I just dont like the way he is completely on a power trip wanting ppl to do exactly as he wants them to. Doling out tough lives and punishing ppl for small infringements. What are your thoughts on him?
I don't feel anything towards God. I've never known Him except for the results of His activities.
I believe God sacrificed His own life to give life to our current universe. As a result, it can't be Him puppeteering people around. Instead, I believe we ourselves are responsible for choosing the sometimes extreme occurences in our lifes.
That does put my beliefs in a rather awkward position: did I really choose to be raped and undergo an abortion? I think those occurences are a part of our lessons, designed to achieve perfection.
Xentor
February 9th, 2008, 04:23 PM
What god? There are many, many gods-- goddesses too, which are sometimes lumped into the term "god."
Are you referring to the Judeo-Christian view of god or something else? Keep in mind that there are not only countless gods, but also views of them.
I always assume people are referring to my god(s), if they fail to specify. Makes their reaction to my posts much more interesting, especially since I tend to have a rather unique view.
David19
February 9th, 2008, 07:51 PM
I feel he's probably fairly annoyed at some of his followers. Or just wants to slap them for being idiots. Probably thinking "don't make me come down there!!!"
I agree with you, I think YHWH probably does not like some of his so-called followers.
My own views of YHWH are that he definantly exists, and is a very powerful (and IMO interesting) God, he's just not my God, my God is Ereshkigal.
I do, however, want to learn more about YHWH, 'cause, like I said, he's interesting and I just generally want to know more about him (maybe it's my Jewish roots, I don't know).
I also tend to think that the God of the fundamentalists is different to YHWH, like the God that Fred Phelps worships seems to be more of an evil deity, somewhat anyway, in that, his deity seems to want to anhilate the majority of humans from the earth.
Toby Stimpson
February 9th, 2008, 09:14 PM
I don't really hold a view. I mean if we're talking God, deity of abrahamic religions... then meh. I like the idea of 'God'. But what I can never understand is: if you dislike God of abraham... why do you waste such a time creating or supporting ideas about why you don't like him. Who cares? He's not your God... ok... so what?
Stoirmeacha
February 9th, 2008, 09:18 PM
I'm much too tired to read the whole thread, but it all depends on what you mean by God. I understand that you must be talking about the Abrahamic Yaweh.
I feel no animosity to Him, I actually don't believe in Him. But the God archetype never really did anything wrong. It is a number of his followers that I have a bit of a problem with.
Xentor
February 9th, 2008, 09:23 PM
I'm much too tired to read the whole thread, but it all depends on what you mean by God. I understand that you must be talking about the Abrahamic Yaweh.
I feel no animosity to Him, I actually don't believe in Him. But the God archetype never really did anything wrong. It is a number of his followers that I have a bit of a problem with.
Much too tired to read 15 posts? :rolleyes:
What about your own god(s)? How do you view them?
patch
February 10th, 2008, 06:35 AM
I'm indifferent to him.
Same as gods from other pantheons I don't worship.
Xentor
February 10th, 2008, 07:29 AM
I'm indifferent to him.
Same as gods from other pantheons I don't worship.
Same question for you: how do you feel about your own gods? Do you have any?
Garm
February 10th, 2008, 09:22 AM
Ahhh, good old fashioned Sethian Gnosticism
No matter how many times you try to kill it, it's ready to go another round
Not surprising, all things considered
"Give me that Old Time Religion"
It's a tenet I to hold at least twice on most days, usually after missing a bus
Zephyrstorm
February 10th, 2008, 10:11 AM
Towards the Judeo-Christian God, eh. He doesn't enter my mind much. I'm rather of the "couldn't care less" crowd on him.
Now, my own deities, there are days that I struggle with them, but by and large I love and respect them. They make me challenge myself, pick myself up and try to be more than I would on my own.
Aidron
February 10th, 2008, 10:13 AM
Same question for you: how do you feel about your own gods? Do you have any?
Crikey, since no one else is answering your question I'll answer it:
Other gods? I'm respectful toward them and their followers. You won't see me talking ill of them because what have they honestly done to me? I may dislike their followers, but that's it. Furthermore, were I to be in an area or location that was sacred to deity I do not worship (let's say a Hindu temple in India) and I wanted to go in then first things first, I would give an offering to said deity. I'm in their space, show some respect. If I don't want to do that, I can not go in. I would never go in and just ignore them (i.e. no offering, no acknowledgment of them, etc.). Not if I'm diametrically opposed to the creeds of such a god, I'll just stay away. No conflict, no muss, no fuss.
My gods? I believe my life is better enriched by heeding their wisdom, advice, and directions. If I didn't, why would I follow them? Many people are surprised when I refer to myself as a servant to my gods due to the mindset of society that is reflected in such comments as "I'm not changing for anyone!" (How about yourself?), but I don't consider it an inherently unhealthy label. Just like in S&M, the submissive is the one that is truly in control. They give themselves up to the dominant, just as I do with my gods. Why? Because they want to. Simple as that.
patch
February 10th, 2008, 10:41 AM
Same question for you: how do you feel about your own gods? Do you have any?
I respect every deity.
I honour the ones in my pantheon, and love those close to me :)
RainInanna
February 10th, 2008, 11:01 AM
How do I feel about my own god?
Mm my perspective is that the sacred transcends understanding and yet manifests in infinite ways as needed by each person who connects with it, and is therefore immanent as well. Deities are those manifestations, and are therefore each just as likely to exist as the other. The Divine may or may not exist at all - since it may be beyond my comprehension I understand I can't know the totality or even whether it really exists at all. For my purposes I assume it does, whether manifested as the life that animates us all, energy that exists even within inanimate objects, archetypes, or even particular deities. I just don't focus on the individual deities, and not much on the archetypes either except as metaphors and tools. YMMV.
Stoirmeacha
February 10th, 2008, 05:26 PM
Much too tired to read 15 posts? :rolleyes:
What about your own god(s)? How do you view them?
I was out like a light after logging off.:smile:
Anyways, I am different from some neo-pagans in the sense that I view them as seperate entities with seperate personalities and desires. I don't feel them as archetypes of a single ONE. I am dedicated to a number of certain gods and goddesses and they are the ones that I feel the most love and devotion for, other gods within my pantheon, however, also get my highest respect, but do not recieve sacrifices and prayers from me, unless they come to me and ask for it, and I feel that it is appropriate.
Fiamma
February 10th, 2008, 07:43 PM
The judeo christian god
Well, I *thought* I posted this response earlier, but it seems I didn't...
..anyway. Not my god, not my problem. I got no beef with him.
aluokaloo
February 11th, 2008, 12:41 AM
how do I feel? At first I didn't like him, but then I figured well just because some of his followers stink doesn't mean he stinks. Besides I might be a weirdo for thinking this way, but he is a god after all, and any deity no matter one's personal feelings, or whether they worship him/her or not does deserve some measure of respect.
Fiamma
February 11th, 2008, 02:59 PM
how do I feel? At first I didn't like him, but then I figured well just because some of his followers stink doesn't mean he stinks. Besides I might be a weirdo for thinking this way, but he is a god after all, and any deity no matter one's personal feelings, or whether they worship him/her or not does deserve some measure of respect.
True. Additionally, I do not lay all the blame for the missteps and atrocities of any given deity on the deity themselves, a large part of it goes to the followers.
The Christian god sent his son as a sacrifice to atone for all the world's sins and made a new covenant of love with the people. They were commanded to love thy neighbor and be compassionate. He also gave them free will.
How much can I blame him for one of his so-called followers who ignored that?
Would you blame Apollo if I lied?
aluokaloo
February 11th, 2008, 03:41 PM
True. Additionally, I do not lay all the blame for the missteps and atrocities of any given deity on the deity themselves, a large part of it goes to the followers.
The Christian god sent his son as a sacrifice to atone for all the world's sins and made a new covenant of love with the people. They were commanded to love thy neighbor and be compassionate. He also gave them free will.
How much can I blame him for one of his so-called followers who ignored that?
Would you blame Apollo if I lied?
not in the least.
Pink_sheep
February 11th, 2008, 03:42 PM
I respect every deity.
I honour the ones in my pantheon, and love those close to me :)
Same here :)
Going back to the first post, my only thoughts about the Judeo-Christian God is how odd it is that he's *usually* known simply as "God". I have no like or dislike of him - I've never felt close to him. As for those who follow him, I've always been a great believer in the saying "Madness in the name of God is still only madness" (who said that, by the way?) and that why Deities may have an influence on us, we are all free to make our own choices. They may suggest things, but they don't control us. I have a real dislike of any sort of bossyboots that tells other people what to do because "it's God's way". If people wanted to know what God thinks, I assume they'd read the bible or pray for an answer. When I want to know what the deities I honor think, I ask them.
Again, to the original post - if you feel a "dislike" to any deity, don't work with them! I've never disliked any deity, but if I did ever feel a dislike, I'd just avoid working with them...
LadyCelt
February 11th, 2008, 04:02 PM
I think God has different facets and ways; a lot of it due to how people worship them. For many, God (in the Christian sense) is just male. So, in a sense, this deity is more male. Some see God as one and some as a trinity. For each person, I believe God is different.
Meadhbh
February 11th, 2008, 04:05 PM
I don't really think about him all that much. But some times I wonder if he really wants his followers to act the way they do or if he's horribly embrassed by the whole thing.
Fiamma
February 11th, 2008, 05:26 PM
I don't really think about him all that much. But some times I wonder if he really wants his followers to act the way they do or if he's horribly embrassed by the whole thing.
Depends on the follower, methinks.
Fiamma
February 11th, 2008, 05:28 PM
I respect every deity.
I honour the ones in my pantheon, and love those close to me :)
Same here.
Though if God showed up one day and said "Worship me now", I'd have to laugh and ask him where the heck he was all the years I spent wanting so badly, trying to believe in him.
Lady Aeris
February 11th, 2008, 07:34 PM
The judeo christian god
oh. good thing i read through to figure out what you were talkin bout... but i have no feelings ill or otherwise toward the judeo christian god- that god has nothing to do with my life nor does 'he' hold sway over anything (imo) so... insignificant i guess. sorry he bugs you though- :(
patch
February 13th, 2008, 03:13 PM
Same here.
Though if God showed up one day and said "Worship me now", I'd have to laugh and ask him where the heck he was all the years I spent wanting so badly, trying to believe in him.
Same.
That, and the fact he is a jealous god. There is no way I could stop worshipping theother gods I follow.
Whitewolf
February 13th, 2008, 05:55 PM
I don't really think about him all that much. But some times I wonder if he really wants his followers to act the way they do or if he's horribly embrassed by the whole thing. I wonder the same thing actually.
patch
February 17th, 2008, 01:54 PM
. So instead of acting like our Gods are better then the Christian God, why don’t we all just be happy with the Gods we love and worship? And not bad mouth the God of monotheistic religions?
Nobody did, that I can see anyway.
WitchyLady777
February 17th, 2008, 04:41 PM
Judeo-Christian "Yaweh" god?
Eh, not much use for him, no offense intended.
My idea of "God" is admittedly a bit more "Touched By An Angel" oriented. He's a mostly equal opportunity kinda chappie who loves everybody and "walks with you" rather than shouts AT you...
Now and again he even takes off his "old grandpa in the sky hat" to don the green and party with the Lady...
Pretty cool dude, all round, lol....
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